Ladarius Webb reacts to fan

[gabefergy]

Not trying to be argumentative... but can you quote the disrespectful things the fan said for me?

...I hope you are doing more for your team...now its like you aren't playing up to your 12mil contract...

Then he essentially told him he should "be a leader like Suggs", seemingly in reference to Suggs restructure (not like he took less money but this guy probably deosn't understand that).

[ludy51]

Heck if I had hundreds of people daily telling me what to do with my life I'd snap too. Military or not. Probably in a worse way too and I certainly wouldn't be able to hold back as long as he had.

[gabefergy]

Again, agree with you, but this fan didnt ask him to take a pay cut.

He inferred he should if he didn't outright say it.

[HoldingCall]

Again, agree with you, but this fan didnt ask him to take a pay cut.

I don't think anyone missed the point of him posting for Webb to do more to help his team.

[The Mom Gene]

Has there been any confirmation of this Webb account? Is it truly his?

Good question too.

[The Mom Gene]

Then he essentially told him he should "be a leader like Suggs", seemingly in reference to Suggs restructure (not like he took less money but this guy probably deosn't understand that).

And it seems that Webby already is the leader...  Hence the Ed Block award.... 

[Grapple Raven]

Presuming that Webb possibly could have been slightly insulted by the comment that he used to be the favorite from a fan who didn't think he has lived up to his vision of him, by not sacrificing part of his salary for the good of the team since he hadn't been able to play out his contract by missing time...that was insensitive comment to make to a player as it would indicate the poster either didn't understand or comprehend the sacrifices Webb has made to even get back on the field in the first place.  It was also insensitive on Webby's behalf to overlook the sacrifices of the military that they make on a daily basis as well. 

An unfortunate incident for all concerned by reacting to obviously personal emotional issues thinking of their own situations, without considering the perspectives of the other.  Both, that weren't quite as well thought out as they should have been. A very sad misunderstanding on both parts imho.

 

Personally, I think there are a lot of similarities between Webby's fight to overcome the adversities he has had to overcome in in life and his professional football career, and the adversities that military members face in the performance of duties.  It is unfortunate that this situation has brought out the negatives, rather than the positives of the sacrifices of both involved in this situation, as the positives far outweigh the negatives in relations to the courage, dedication and sacrifices of both.

[MTRavensFan]

Torrey was right. Social media is a cesspool, and players are better off just avoiding it.

[Inqui]

Just because this guy is a vet doesn't mean he has the right to be ignorant on social media. Yes, Webb went over the line but the dude said some pretty disrespecful things himself.

Maybe this is just me speaking as a non-American, but it seems like the issue is getting a little convoluted by the fact that he's in the military. People need to ask themselves how their reaction would be if the guy were a waiter, a tax collector or Morgan Freeman.

 

I still think they were both out of line either way, but it's something to think about.

[Edgar]

Not in my opinion if the intent was as dismissive as what it appears to be. Further, I would recommend that every American who has not done this already to visit a VA hospital to show support and have a real perspective for what sacrifices are taken.

 

That said, a simple apology would not suffice. I'm still not convinced that the account is truly Webb's, but whomever it is gets my "Idiot of the Year Award".

Way way way too much is being made of this.

[H8R]

The military love fest is out of control. I think it has nothing to do with what was said ... The guy was being a dbag, webb was being a dbag... Two dbags, doing dbag things.

[Willbacker]

Facebook and twitter. lol.

[GrimCoconut]

I think much ado is being made of nothing here.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Maybe this is just me speaking as a non-American, but it seems like the issue is getting a little convoluted by the fact that he's in the military. People need to ask themselves how their reaction would be if the guy were a waiter, a tax collector or Morgan Freeman.

 

I still think they were both out of line either way, but it's something to think about.

The conversation truly '...is getting a little convoluted.' but not because of the 'military-thing'. It's the non-confirmation thing.

 

You don't have to be non-American to know that people hack accounts, create-faux accounts posing as others and are sometimes hired social media employees who post for you and/or unofficial brand builders. Nobody knows if these are actual statements from Webb or not. If they were wouldn't a Ravens press release have been done already?

 

Confirmation is in order. Unless Webb or the Ravens confirms - what are we talking about here?

[Inqui]

The military love fest is out of control. I think it has nothing to do with what was said ... The guy was being a dbag, webb was being a dbag... Two dbags, doing dbag things.

+21

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Way way way too much is being made of this.

Yes. Until the actual site has been confirmed.

[sflegend89]

This is why professional athletes should avoid social media like the plague. The vast majority of the time only bad comes from giving literally anyone a way to instantly contact you as a professional athlete.

 

That was a really lousy thing for Webb to say. Guys like Torrey and apparently Webb seem to take social media too personally and end up going back and forth with trolls and ultimately just making themselves look bad. How does that quote go? "Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference". 

 

Webb frankly doesn't deserve his current contract. We paid that kind of money for the player we saw in 2011, we aren't getting the player as advertised and we've been plenty patient. Yes he's been constantly injured since then and that's the problem. These aren't isolated injuries, this is a player who is flat out injury prone and is always dealing with something. When he came back last year he was hobbled and was a liability out there. I understand why Webb doesn't want to restructure but it's really not fair to the team because he's not producing anywhere close to his contract.

[Inqui]

The conversation truly '...is getting a little convoluted.' but not because of the 'military-thing'. It's the non-confirmation thing.

 

You don't have to be non-American to know that people hack accounts, create-faux accounts posing as others and are sometimes hired social media employees who post for you and/or unofficial brand builders. Nobody knows if these are actual statements from Webb or not. If they were wouldn't a Ravens press release have been done already?

 

Confirmation is in order. Unless Webb or the Ravens confirms - what are we talking about here?

Tbh it looks like you're the only one talking about whether it was actually him. Whether or not his account has the little blue tick, it sounds like there's no reason to think it wasn't him. I can't see the Ravens putting out a statement over it for the same reason they didn't when Steve Smith took a dig at fantasy players or when Torrey got stuck into those Patriots fans. At the end of the day, it'll be forgotten about in 24 hours' time and there's no need for the organisation to throw fuel on a pretty small fire.

 

It's just a couple of guys being flogs on social media. Not the first time it's happened and it won't be the last.

[redrum52]

Maybe this is just me speaking as a non-American, but it seems like the issue is getting a little convoluted by the fact that he's in the military. People need to ask themselves how their reaction would be if the guy were a waiter, a tax collector or Morgan Freeman.

I still think they were both out of line either way, but it's something to think about.

Morgan Freeman would be the only exception for me. No one bad mouths Morgan Freeman.

Agree with what you're saying though. People make it as if people in uniform should go by a separate set of rules than everyone else.

[pep_meister]

Yes. Until the actual site has been confirmed.

? that's his actual instagram.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Tbh it looks like you're the only one talking about whether it was actually him. Whether or not his account has the little blue tick, it sounds like there's no reason to think it wasn't him. I can't see the Ravens putting out a statement over it for the same reason they didn't when Steve Smith took a dig at fantasy players or when Torrey got stuck into those Patriots fans. At the end of the day, it'll be forgotten about in 24 hours' time and there's no need for the organisation to throw fuel on a pretty small fire.

 

It's just a couple of guys being flogs on social media. Not the first time it's happened and it won't be the last.

Both of those issues were addressed as soon as they happened right on this very Ravens News, ESPN and NFL Network. Where have you been? If I'm "looks like you're the only one" who prefers confirmation then so be it. I won't rush to judgement without it. It seems you're the only one who hasn't read the Smith documented reports. Really?

 

Why not confirm the account? Do you honestly not know how hacking, hire social media employees, etc. work?

[FlocksGottaFeed]

? that's his actual instagram.

And does he hire people to maintain his account?

[fistfullwales]

Heck if I had hundreds of people daily telling me what to do with my life I'd snap too. Military or not. Probably in a worse way too and I certainly wouldn't be able to hold back as long as he had.

Professional athletes are held to a higher standard than your average joe and are expected to conduct themselves in a professional manner at all times. Professional athletes represent more than themselves, they represent their family, team and city.

 

I won't argue they are just regular guys like you and me, but when you're getting paid millions you better be able to take flak and have some tougher skin than that. I made the same argument when SSS complained about negative fans, the fact that the fan is a vet just makes Webb's response even more inappropriate and unacceptable.

 

Sure, the vet/fan could have phrased his comment better, but still, Webb should be above it. If he has to respond, do it respectfully and like a man.

[pep_meister]

And does he hire people to maintain his account?

he's not that famous. I would bet on it that it's him.

[Crabcakes&Football]

This shouldn't be a surprise. You hear the same prepared cliches from just about every player in the league about doing what's best for the team and working hard, and getting better everyday. Nobody really talks like that. The farther they get away from the PR machine the more they sound like immature vulgar jerks.

[redrum52]

And does he hire people to maintain his account?

It's most likely him and I'm not mad at all about what he said. People need to learn to keep their mouths shut sometimes about other people's situations if they don't like their own being brought up.

[pep_meister]

It's most likely him and I'm not mad at all about what he said. People need to learn to keep their mouths shut sometimes about other people's situations if they don't like their own being brought up.

it's the fact that if you're a professional and a role model act like it. he's entitled to his .2 but it was way unnecessary to go where he went with that comment.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

he's not that famous. I would bet on it that it's him.

Dude he's a millionaire. Social media account managers make peanuts and are usually young interns that are fired all the time for posting immature things. Do you know for sure where those postings come from (no betting allowed)?

 

Not saying that you may not be right, but a real confirmation that those alledged statements came from him is in order.

[Ravenseconbeast]

When we signed Webb on that deal, this wasn't what I pictured him to give us in return.

So far, he has been mostly absent or played poorly since his big contract. Help the team and take the pay cut. Or face the inevitable.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

When we signed Webb on that deal, this wasn't what I pictured him to give us in return.

So far, he has been mostly absent or played poorly since his big contract. Help the team and take the pay cut. Or face the inevitable.

Is that really what happened as far as the 'reacts to a fan...' goes or is that more about the other Webb thread?