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How will we address each of our areas of greatest need (DB, WR and TE)?

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Just went on his twitter he has a recent tweet about rehab , he seems in good spirits and his motto or whatever at the top is " Fell down 3 Times , Get up 4".

So I don't think he is retiring.

Don't mind him. He likes to make guesses at things.

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yeh but common..how many stories do you hear of a guy who's had 3 crushing injuries even before he steps on an NFL field and suddenly looks like a player

 

i don't see it

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Personally, I don't think tight end is that big of a need. Trestman doesn't use two tightend sets as much as Kubiak. Since tightends aren't considered primary receivers in Trestman's style of offense, Gilmore can probably handle the starting role just fine. And we have Juice that can play the position and be more of a receiving option. I think a midround pick of someone with some athletic ability and a potentially high upside will due the trick there.

 

With the extra money from the Ngata move, I'd want the Ravens to go after a really good d-lineman or a solid, healthy corner. Someone like Terrance Knighton.

I don't see Knighton as a possibility, even if he decreasing his asking price. I think we released Ngata to get some extra breathing room and allow us to resign our own FA's. 

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Hey don't forget signing a qb... Keith is not a backup yet or maybe ever... and who knows what could happen next year with Flacco's cap... if he decides not to restructure we may need a qb... don't know the specifics on his deal vs dead money etc... but his cap is around 20+ next year and grows after that yet we will need to sign Yanda Tucker and Smith... without a good secondary we go nowhere and without a good/great line... well we all saw what happened there... no running or throwing... and Yanda is one of the best. The Ravens I think will only sign released players so it won't hurt our comp picks and a lot of those are getting picked left and right... so we will have to build through the draft... let's hope it's as deep as some believe.

Oh and by the way I am not saying that we will or need to just saying with talks about the saints getting rid of Drew Brees or the 49ers shopping Kapernick who knows what could happen. With salaries continuing to go up and teams starting to rely on winning with veterans and players on rookie contracts... (the most successful ones...) anything could happen.

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yeh but common..how many stories do you hear of a guy who's had 3 crushing injuries even before he steps on an NFL field and suddenly looks like a player

i don't see it

Well not too long ago people didn't know if Gronk would ever play again with his back , forearm and ACL/MCL all surgicslly repaired. Murray had a long Injury list before he lead the league in rushing. Peyton set records after neck surgery , Adrian Peterson set records after tearing his ACL. Kelichi Osmele is one of the best guards in the NFL after back surgery.

Plenty more. Don't be a pessimist.

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What is making people soo confident in Gillmore?! He has said in the past he enjoys blocking more than catching and would prefer to be a blocking tight end! He had 100 receiving yards last year!! When he was the starter with Daniels out he only had like 2 catches in games he is not the tight end we need for the "move" tight end and people need to realize this is a huge need along with running back and receiver!!

I guess there is no reason to think he's the next Gronk, but he showed signs that should not cause us to completely discount him. Think back to Pitta's rookie year. How many yards did he get? I'll welcome you to go check, but I don't think it was anything to write home about.

 

It is definitely a need. FO said it was as well, so they aren't going to sit and do nothing. However, it will be their assessment of Pitta's likelihood of ever returning that will either have them invest big in the draft or not. Problem is that, by all accounts, this is a weak TE class.

 

At the very least, a vet TE will be brought in to bridge us to see what we have in Gilmore and whether Pitta can ever return. 

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Do the Ravens think Pitta may actually play this season? Logic tells me he won't, but who knows? It would be awesome if he suits up this year though but stays healthy!

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I don't see Knighton as a possibility, even if he decreasing his asking price. I think we released Ngata to get some extra breathing room and allow us to resign our own FA's. 

Knighton has interest from multiple teams and I don't think we want to get into a bidding war at this time.

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Well not too long ago people didn't know if Gronk would ever play again with his back , forearm and ACL/MCL all surgicslly repaired. Murray had a long Injury list before he lead the league in rushing. Peyton set records after neck surgery , Adrian Peterson set records after tearing his ACL. Kelichi Osmele is one of the best guards in the NFL after back surgery.

Plenty more. Don't be a pessimist.

 

Yeah but all these guys were proven..

 

who's to say KLM even before injuries would have been a stud?

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I don't see Knighton as a possibility, even if he decreasing his asking price. I think we released Ngata to get some extra breathing room and allow us to resign our own FA's. 

Knighton was just the first name that came to mind. For more doable free agent options there's Henry Melton and Alan Ball.

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Yeah but all these guys were proven..

who's to say KLM even before injuries would have been a stud?

We aren't saying he will be a stud. Just that he could be good enough
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We aren't saying he will be a stud. Just that he could be good enough

 

Chances are he isn't. He hasn't played football for 3 years!! think about that!

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I think we'll sign a veteran at each position and draft a guy as well. This is our formula for success and it's proven.

I think Chandler will be signed for TE.

I see Dwayne Bowe or possibly Michael Crabtree signed for WR.

I see Brandon Harris, Charles Tillman or Alan Ball signed for CB.

I think the only likely safety to be signed would be Moore or possibly Landry (Dawan type) or Miles.

I think Wilfork is our best option at DL, although I wouldn't count out Bilukidi.

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Chances are he isn't. He hasn't played football for 3 years!! think about that!

I really like KLM, especially coming out of college. He was the best of the three ND DL between him, Nix and Tuitt. His injury history is, however, most unfortunate. I can't say with certainty that he won't wash out of the league. He could certainly be another statistic. DL needs to be addressed and will be in the draft.
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Let me tell you something about football..if you are going to get a guy who's past his prime..he better be an ex superstar..players who were ''good'' that are past their prime are usually crap

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Looking like Bowe is being cut this week according to Ian R on Twitter.

 

Scott Chandler has been cut too.

 

Wouldn't mind both of these guys playing in Purple and Black. Dat redzone offense!

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Let me tell you something about football..if you are going to get a guy who's past his prime..he better be an ex superstar..players who were ''good'' that are past their prime are usually crap

We don't have a lot of cap space to work with here. It's kinda difficult when you're as cap strapped as we are. Would you rather we just not fill those positions at all? Sometimes you have to take what you can get
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Looking like Bowe is being cut this week according to Ian R on Twitter.

 

Scott Chandler has been cut too.

 

Wouldn't mind both of these guys playing in Purple and Black. Dat redzone offense!

 

Not a fan of chandler.

Bowe ..no..I'd rather go for the youth movement and let SSR be the only old guy

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We don't have a lot of cap space to work with here. It's kinda difficult when you're as cap strapped as we are. Would you rather we just not fill those positions at all? Sometimes you have to take what you can get

 

Just do it through the draft..dont put yourself in a situation where you could have a lot of cap next year but don't because you get some washed up ''used to be kinda good player'' on your roster

 

we might not be that good next year..but after this year we will have $ to work with..dont waste it on Bowe

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Just do it through the draft..dont put yourself in a situation where you could have a lot of cap next year but don't because you get some washed up ''used to be kinda good player'' on your roster

we might not be that good next year..but after this year we will have $ to work with..dont waste it on Bowe

We're talking a one year prove it deal for a guy like Bowe, and that makes sense for both parties. Bowe gets to come to a team with Trestman and Flacco and gets the benefit of Smith Sr and our OL and can cash in next year like many Ravens before him.

Chandler makes sense because the draft isn't exceptionally strong at TE and you need to fill a hole.

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We're talking a one year prove it deal for a guy like Bowe, and that makes sense for both parties. Bowe gets to come to a team with Trestman and Flacco and gets the benefit of Smith Sr and our OL and can cash in next year like many Ravens before him.

Chandler makes sense because the draft isn't exceptionally strong at TE and you need to fill a hole.

 

Just get Jordan Cameron. At least he's got a bit of talent.

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We don't have a lot of cap space to work with here. It's kinda difficult when you're as cap strapped as we are. Would you rather we just not fill those positions at all? Sometimes you have to take what you can get

 

 

yep. It's what we do and one of the reasons we are consistently competitive. Other solutions that are proposed may provide a couple of "home run" years, but also come with suffering through years of ineptitude. Our rebuilding is a constant process and just the way we do business.

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You forgot pass rusher.  With McPhee, Canty, and Ngata gone this is now a priority for FA or draft. 

Though not the priority that the skill positions have, IMO. We still have two top-flight edge rushers. I think Jernigan, while not the run- stopping force 92 is, will give us a better interior pass rush. And perhaps Urban and Kapron-Moore will be contributors, as well...

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Just get Jordan Cameron. At least he's got a bit of talent.

 

Talented, but 1 concussion away from turning into Austin Collie.

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Just get Jordan Cameron. At least he's got a bit of talent.

He's got loads of talent, and we could sure use a downfield threat asset given our current roster. The concussion issue is a big question mark, though...

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Just get Jordan Cameron. At least he's got a bit of talent.

Do you really think we can afford him? I question it. I mean I he seems to want to go to a contender so I suppose it's possible he signs a cheap deal. I just don't think it's likely.

We have $10M in cap and that doesn't include money that needs to be allocated to draft picks. We're in a bind.

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Pick up Crabtree or Kenny Britt

Use Juice more as a TE(once pitta went down last year I'm surprised his role didn't expand)

Draft a corner high and hopefully we can pick up a legit corner who's a cap causality

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Pick up Crabtree or Kenny Britt

Use Juice more as a TE(once pitta went down last year I'm surprised his role didn't expand)

Draft a corner high and hopefully we can pick up a legit corner who's a cap causality

 

Juice isn't much of a route runner. Pitta was an elite route runner..just had the perfect instincts

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I fear..the FO is going to do a 2013 patch up job

 

Scott chandler ..denarius moore etc

 

sigh..i hate the patch up years :(

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Im not high on Bowe, he's much passed him prime. I think a guy who would sign a prove it deal is Michael Crabtree, but I wouldn't be shocked if people questioned his ability to co-exist with Smith Sr.

I would rather fill our spots in at CB/FS via FA. 10M in cap isn't enough when you don't even equate the fact that was haven't signed our draft picks, and we have 11(likely) picks btw.

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