What is the worst contract the Ravens have ever inked with a player?

[B-more Ravor]

............Leon Searcy got 31.5 million from us (don't know how much was guaranteed) and didn't play a single snap.

 

 

Yeah, I mentioned him earlier.  Would probably had been an OK contract if he hadn't gotten hurt, so there is some context involved in it being the worse, though it certainly ended up that way.  Thankfully, they only had to pay him about $4M of that $31.5M before releasing him. 

[B-more Ravor]

 It was almost as bad as $40mil to a RB already losing his explosiveness. Ray Rice's contract was one of the most unintelligent contracts handed out recently of any team!!

 

IDK, at the time of that contract, RBs were still be paid well - AP, Arian Foster, DeAngelo Williams, Chris Johnson, etc, all got contracts similar to (or better than) Rice's.  It was just after Rice's deal that the bottom feel out of the RB market. 

 

Now, I'm not going to going to argue against the thought that you don't give RBs a second (BIG) contract, but if the decision is made to do so, his contract was right in like with what other RBs of his Caliber were making.  After all, the prior year (2011) was probably his best year - he finished 2nd in the NFL in rushing yards (4.7 ypc) had 15 TDs and lead the league in yards from scrimmage. 

[berad]

If u dig up his leave of absence he was injured to begin it. I could be wrong and mistaken him for another player but even if there wasn't a previous injury history shouldn't the FO be more careful shelling out that kinna guaranteed $$ to a player coming off a serious injury regardless of the reports on his hip. It was almost as bad as $40mil to a RB already losing his explosiveness. Ray Rice's contract was one of the most unintelligent contracts handed out recently of any team!!

 

Did lots of research and that simply isn't true. I was asking you to prove it which you apparently cannot. From his college position coach:

 

 

"Dennis was an absolute dream to coach," said Lance Reynolds, BYU assistant head coach and tight ends coach, in a telephone interview. "He was a hard-working guy, never missed a practice. His practice habits were beyond reproach for us. He's a big-framed guy, that's the first thing we noticed about him. He was tall and skinny when he got here, but we had hopes he would be a tight end for us. If you stand next to him now, he's a broad-shouldered big guy.

 

http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2012-10-25/sports/bs-sp-ravens-pitta-1026-20121025_1_dennis-pitta-ed-dickson-pitta-ranks

 

We're talking in circles now, though.

[jimjim5]

Wow, I think of myself as a big ravens fan yet I don't even remember this Leon guy. Apparently, I need to step up my game

 

You do. That Searcy contract was bad. Everyone but Ravens brass knew it was a bad deal.

[jimjim5]

People, please don't kill me.

Anquan Boldin.

He wasn't a FA signing, but the Ravens paid him 7 milion per year, he never eclipsed 1,000 yds or double digit touchdowns in a season. He had really one good game in the 2012 SB run..in the AFCC. If you look back..Torrey, Pitta, and Jones all had equal if not more impact than Boldin In that run.

 

This is silly. A team is the sum of it's parts. Anquan was brought in for his toughness, not stats. He is built for the AFCN. 

 

No Boldin, no playoffs -let alone SB.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Frank Walker. That dude didn't even deserve vet minimum lol

He was horrendous, until I saw Dominique on field and crapworth was even worse.

[Ravenslifer]

Wow, I think of myself as a big ravens fan yet I don't even remember this Leon guy. Apparently, I need to step up my game

 

The worst part about that deal was that JO was still in his prime - like 26 or 27.  Searcy was a total luxury, not a need.  A lot of people were wondering what we were doing handing a RT that kind of money.

[redrum52]

People, please don't kill me.

Anquan Boldin.

He wasn't a FA signing, but the Ravens paid him 7 milion per year, he never eclipsed 1,000 yds or double digit touchdowns in a season. He had really one good game in the 2012 SB run..in the AFCC. If you look back..Torrey, Pitta, and Jones all had equal if not more impact than Boldin In that run.

You good. I don't agree, but understand where you're coming from. I think his problem was the way he was used in the offense. He showed he had the potential to take over games. One of his highlights to me will always be the Cardinals game where HE WENT OFF. He was a huge part of the SB run I think and thinks like run blocking and field presence can't be overlooked. Teams had to account for him and gave us another set of sure hands. He also had a good game against the Colts as well, and made a big 3rd and 1 and ball that was much me difficult to catch than he's given credit for. He also brought a toughness and fire to the offense that was just somewhat rehashed with the signing of SSS... please say the senior. Of all the contracts, the only reason I'd say he might be a bad deal is because he wasn't utilized properly.

[flynismo]

The main reason I stayed away from Webb for now is that we haven't seen the entirety of it yet. If he bounces back it won't look AS bad, though even a pro bowl year won't justify the contract and make it look good.

That's a valid counterpoint..if Webb bounces back in a big way this year, which isn't out of the question, then i think i could possibly change my mind on that...would still be very close though; and leaning towards still saying Webb simply because of the amount of money involved...either way, ewww

[Purple Punishment]

I definitely don't think he had one of the worst Ravens contracts ever but he was definitely overrated as hell by fans. People talked about his departure like he was Megatron but fact is, he was no better in Baltimore than Derrick Mason

That's because he was improperly utilized from the jump. Should've been a slot guy for his tenure

[FlocksGottaFeed]

So glad when Elvis left the building.

 

There's no position in the league more important than QB for any franchise's success. I still have to say that the Grbac contract was the worst. Position and relevance trumps all others.

[Guest]

Worst Contract ever?

 

That's a tough one.  How do you factor injuries that changed a players ability level when those injuries occurred after the Contract was signed?  How can one take that position?  There's really no one to hold accountable in that scenario.

 

Then there's signing a player after an injury. That's a different matter. Maybe even more so in a case of say a ball and socket hip injury, although other Ravens like Ed Reed have had hip procedures previously.

Did someone actually mention Flacco?

 

The fact is the Salary Cap and the fat Flacco contract is the main reason the Ravens are scrambling and unable to sign many of their accomplished Free Agents.  But the Raven's are not alone, pay a QB big bucks like that and watch the havoc it creates within a team.  There's a better way for fans, but the owners have banded against it.

I definitely don't think he had one of the worst Ravens contracts ever but he was definitely overrated as hell by fans.  People talked about his departure like he was Megatron but fact is, he was no better in Baltimore than Derrick Mason

 

Regarding Bolden it might be more accurate to say his contract was one of the worst and one of the best the Raven's ever inked.  He was overpaid and also essential. His departure in 2013 was excruciatingly apparent.  He was missed beyond the ability of words to convey.  It was a disaster.  Now the Ravens stand on the precipice of letting both of their field stretchers go in the same year.  It's a head scratcher.

 

That said, still believe Torrey Smith got short arms and did not go up to contest the end of game interception vs the Pats.  He could have knocked it away. He might have come down with it.  There was no apparent effort.

Rice, and that isn't just because of his domestic violence issue.  What seperates the best from a middle of the pack Rb is almost nothing compared the any other postition on the field. RB's are a dime a dozen. Also, you can have a great running back and a crappy o-line and the RB disappears.

 

Rice was injured all of 2013.  He clearly was not himself.  It could have been the miles were catching up as well, but we never got a chance to determine that.  Now with an entire year out of the league you have to wonder what he has left in the tank and whether someone will give him a chance to show it, though that may not happen. 

 

I feel sorry for Ray Rice. He lost his head and did something dumb, but he's paid a much higher price for it than almost everyone else in similar circumstances. He was caught up in a political response and made the scapegoat when the initial determination was to give him a pass.  He settled his lawsuit with the Ravens and likely has his guarantee money but he may not ever play again and if not he will have been treated disparately. 

 

Webb has been injured post contract. But there's little doubt pre injury he was at the very top of his craft.  Successive knee surgeries appear to have robbed him of his quickness and speed, but he's still one of our better options.  It's not surprising however that he has been given the same ultimatum as was given to Bolden when our receiving corps was weak.  This time the weakness is clearly in our secondary and here we go again.

 

Danny

[JoeyFlex5]

You good. I don't agree, but understand where you're coming from. I think his problem was the way he was used in the offense. He showed he had the potential to take over games. One of his highlights to me will always be the Cardinals game where HE WENT OFF. He was a huge part of the SB run I think and thinks like run blocking and field presence can't be overlooked. Teams had to account for him and gave us another set of sure hands. He also had a good game against the Colts as well, and made a big 3rd and 1 and ball that was much me difficult to catch than he's given credit for. He also brought a toughness and fire to the offense that was just somewhat rehashed with the signing of SSS... please say the senior. Of all the contracts, the only reason I'd say he might be a bad deal is because he wasn't utilized properly.

i immediately read this in lil waynes voice, and then laughed quietly to myself.

[JoeyFlex5]

 

The fact is the Salary Cap and the fat Flacco contract is the main reason the Ravens are scrambling and unable to sign many of their accomplished Free Agents.  But the Raven's are not alone, pay a QB big bucks like that and watch the havoc it creates within a team.  There's a better way for fans, but the owners have banded against it.

this is just wrong, plain and simple. joe flacco's contract is still cap-friendly and with joe being a team first guy im sure the plan is, and always has been to extend in year 4 or 5 and lower the cap hit once again while also providing joe with long term security. 

 

there is nothing that will "create" havoc within a team more than not having a competent qb, joe flaccos contract isnt creating havoc, it is keeping us competitive and without joe flacco we are a 4-12 team at best. 

 

also, what accomplished free agents are you speaking of? torrey and forsett? the straight line burner with no ability to make a play on the ball and the career journeyman rb who flourished behind an elite OL in a system known to churn out 1000 yard rushers? or mcphee, the guy who will be getting paid a FAT contract to be a 3rd down rotational guy? if they leave its because other teams offered them outrageous contracts to be 1-dimensional/rotational players.

 

nearly every single free agent we have let walk, was for one reason, we got outbid for a player who we KNEW wasnt worth it, every player we have cut was for one reason, he wanted more than he was worth, ngata isnt worth a 16million cap hit, not even close, so if he doesnt want an extension than he can see the door, just like what happened with boldin, no hard feelings but your production could never match the crippling price the team pays for you. joe flacco on the other hand, his resume` speaks for itself, he leads us to wins, leads us to the playoffs, and leads us into SB contention every single year, seeing the ravens in the playoffs is every "elite" teams biggest fear, for one reason, joe flacco is the best playoff qb in football and its hard to argue against it, he is worth every penny.

[redrum52]

i immediately read this in lil waynes voice, and then laughed quietly to myself.

Lmao. I didn't think anyone would catch that.

[Wildabeast88]

this is just wrong, plain and simple. joe flacco's contract is still cap-friendly and with joe being a team first guy im sure the plan is, and always has been to extend in year 4 or 5 and lower the cap hit once again while also providing joe with long term security. 

 

there is nothing that will "create" havoc within a team more than not having a competent qb, joe flaccos contract isnt creating havoc, it is keeping us competitive and without joe flacco we are a 4-12 team at best. 

 

also, what accomplished free agents are you speaking of? torrey and forsett? the straight line burner with no ability to make a play on the ball and the career journeyman rb who flourished behind an elite OL in a system known to churn out 1000 yard rushers? or mcphee, the guy who will be getting paid a FAT contract to be a 3rd down rotational guy? if they leave its because other teams offered them outrageous contracts to be 1-dimensional/rotational players.

 

nearly every single free agent we have let walk, was for one reason, we got outbid for a player who we KNEW wasnt worth it, every player we have cut was for one reason, he wanted more than he was worth, ngata isnt worth a 16million cap hit, not even close, so if he doesnt want an extension than he can see the door, just like what happened with boldin, no hard feelings but your production could never match the crippling price the team pays for you. joe flacco on the other hand, his resume` speaks for itself, he leads us to wins, leads us to the playoffs, and leads us into SB contention every single year, seeing the ravens in the playoffs is every "elite" teams biggest fear, for one reason, joe flacco is the best playoff qb in football and its hard to argue against it, he is worth every penny.

I totally agree Joe is right in the middle of the QB pay scale I can't remember but between 14th and 19th highest paid and certainly Ngata isn't worth 16 mil he had fewer tackles that Brandon Williams and Canty and fewer sacks than Jernigan

[TwinRivers]

Kyle Bollars rookie contract

 

 

 

Boller was the worst signing. Starting him on a playoff caliber team basically lost the team for Billick.

[codizzle]

I definitely don't think he had one of the worst Ravens contracts ever but he was definitely overrated as hell by fans. People talked about his departure like he was Megatron but fact is, he was no better in Baltimore than Derrick Mason

Derrick mason >>>>>>

All day everyday.. Even though I think a lot of bolsin's struggles were due to placement in the offense obviously

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

Hard question. In my opinion R.Rice extension that were feeling a part of right this second with the dead money in cap space or the Pitta contract not knowing if he is going to even be able to play in the future but it's always easier looking back than trying to predict the future The reason I picked these 2 is because were feeling it right now was there worse contracts than these two? Yep!!! but the Ravens are not feeling them right now this very second...Pittas wont be bad if he can play this next season and stay healthy...

[Ravensuperfan1]

Dominique Foxworth and I don't think its close.

 

 

eh Foxworth was good till he got hurt.

[jimjim5]

eh Foxworth was good till he got hurt.

 

.....don't know what Foxworth you were watching? I'm a Terp fan and I wanted the guy to succeed because he is a Terp, but come on!

[Purple_ICE 81]

I LOLed at almost all of these posts haha ahh the Jimmy Smith less days where our best CB was Foxworth and Frank Walker got pass interference on pretty much every play...good times. My opinion of our worst FA signing would also be Dominique Foxworth, I really hated him a lot from the minute we signed him to a $30M contract. He was never really good IMO and all we got out of him was poor play and injuries. And of course those were the days of horror with Fox, Chris Carr, and Frank Walker...Ed Reed had to hold down the fort. Haha

I'm just glad we aren't the type of organization who goes out and drops $50m+ contracts on players they eventually cut and get rid of the following off season. At least we wised up since signing then cutting Foxworth.

We have had a solid FA track record for a while.

[jimmypowder]

1 foxworth

2 pitta

3 grbac

Add in Rice as his dead money this year is killing us!

[Tru11]

Add in Rice as his dead money this year is killing us!

 

his contract wasent bad though.

 

if that off the field situation never happened or we did not cut him due to public pressure , his contract would not have been an issue at all.

 

he was actually 1 of the top backs when he signed his contract and 2013 was a down year for the entire offense not only rice tnx to that atrocious o-line.

[Tank 92]

his contract wasent bad though.

 

if that off the field situation never happened or we did not cut him due to public pressure , his contract would not have been an issue at all.

 

he was actually 1 of the top backs when he signed his contract and 2013 was a down year for the entire offense not only rice tnx to that atrocious o-line.

 

Right.  And if Pitta hadn't suffered a broken hip(twice), his contract would not be an issue either.

 

It's hard to say about RR, cause he surely sucked in 2013 and while the O line didn't help, he was useless regardless. It did look as if he was on track to improve in 2014, but who knows.

 

I think Grbac is the winner of this dubious prize.

[arnie_uk]

Don't know the exact ramifications of it now, and up to 2017, but Ray Rices contract looked bad.

me and T3hRaven said it at the time and got slaughtered for it here. Rices was an awful contract from the get go, wife beater or not

[1/28/01]

me and T3hRaven said it at the time and got slaughtered for it here. Rices was an awful contract from the get go, wife beater or not

To be fair, at the time, he was a fiance beater.

[arnie_uk]

To be fair, at the time, he was a fiance beater.

eugh, how could I be so silly and get my facts wrong.

[GrimCoconut]

me and T3hRaven said it at the time and got slaughtered for it here. Rices was an awful contract from the get go, wife beater or not

You're forgetting me in that group.

[Tru11]

Right.  And if Pitta hadn't suffered a broken hip(twice), his contract would not be an issue either.

 

It's hard to say about RR, cause he surely sucked in 2013 and while the O line didn't help, he was useless regardless. It did look as if he was on track to improve in 2014, but who knows.

 

I think Grbac is the winner of this dubious prize.

 

pitta got the 4th highest in guaranteed money amongst all active TE while he never was even considerd a top 5 TE lol.

he only had 1 productive season which was in 2012 and he signed a 5 year 32 mil 16 mill guaranteed contract in 2014 after he just came back from 1 freak non contact injury.

that was a lot of money for a TE who never shown he was among the best and who basicially only saw snaps on passing down while other TE handled the run blocking.

 

only graham and Rudolph got more guaranteed money and Julius Thomas this season.

 

to compare this : rice  got a 5 year 35 mil 15 mil guaranteed in 2012 after he had 3 seasons where he was among the top RBs in 2009 2010 and 2011 with 2009 and 2011 being pro bowl and all pro 2nd team seasons.

all 3 seasons he was top 3 in yards from scrimmage as well.

ow and after he signed his contract he was very important in that 2012 season ( especially in the regular season) in our route to a SB win.

He was also a pro bowler in 2012.

 

so comparing both their contracts and the consider both their production before they got the deal and after they got the deal , id say pitta contract is much and much worse then rice.

 

 

2013 well we all know how bad that o-line was and it probably would have take a primed barry sanders to get any production on the ground from a RB since he would have had to evade/break tackles only to get back to the LOS lol.