Jacoby just released.

[JoeyFlex5]

I think that is a factor. We'll get our post June 1st savings, but out of respect for Jacoby and what he did for us he now gets a better shot at FA. 

as a matter of fact it seems someone from the organization stated that that was the exact reason they decided to hurry the termination. 

 

being good guys to someone who is a hero to this organization

[Militant X 1]

Again, I'm not surprised by this move at all and I wish Jacoby nothing but the best the rest of his career.  Thanks for all of the memories.

[Alexir]

One down, one more cut to go IMO (Canty).

 

Thanks for 2012 , Jacoby.

[JoeyFlex5]

Couple of problems I have with this...

 

1. Tom Brady never took a "hometown discount". That's a myth that is been debunked several times already.

 

2. I have no doubt that the offer we made to Torrey was valid, and I'd bet it still stands. That's a reasonable price to pay for what he brings. If he leaves, its because somebody gave him more, not because we retracted our offer.

 

3. If Suggs and Dumervil start to slow down, then you go draft another pass rusher or sign one in FA (Suggs was a draft pick, Dumervil was a FA signing). A draft pick wouldn't cost much money, so that's not an issue. Upshaw was never drafted to be a pass rusher... he's done the job he was drafted to do, which was fill the JJ role as a run stopping OLB.

 

4. I think Ngata has almost zero trade value, and I think you know that. Any team that wanted to trade for him would know that the ONLY reason we are trying to deal him is because we are going to cut him if we don't trade him (see Boldin, Anquan). AND, any team trading for him would almost certainly sign him to an extension upon doing so, so they really won't save that much money by doing it. And I incredibly doubt that any team would reasonably give up a 3rd round draft pick for a 30+ year old DT AND pay him $8-10M a year probably.

thank you, and thank you. 

 

correct on all counts, upshaw may have been a bit of a reach but he has performed well in his role, as well as just about any other OLB in his role, bashing him for not being a productive pass rusher is like bashing jimmy smith because he doesnt get 8+ int's a year. 

 

on the subject of ngata, we wont even get a 6th rounder, let alone a 3rd. all we could squeeze out for boldin was a 6th and he didnt have 3 straight injury riddled seasons and had a much lower cap hit, i dont know what we do with ngata, i very well could see us keeping him even if he doesnt accept the extension, our cap situation is not as terrible as it initially seems, arent we about 5.5mil under the cap? or is that a figure that represents everything prior to this seasons cap hits?

[Florida Ravens Fan]

It was about time, he didn't offer anything at wr anymore.

[Pirate88]

Couple of problems I have with this...

 

1. Tom Brady never took a "hometown discount". That's a myth that is been debunked several times already.

 

2. I have no doubt that the offer we made to Torrey was valid, and I'd bet it still stands. That's a reasonable price to pay for what he brings. If he leaves, its because somebody gave him more, not because we retracted our offer.

 

3. If Suggs and Dumervil start to slow down, then you go draft another pass rusher or sign one in FA (Suggs was a draft pick, Dumervil was a FA signing). A draft pick wouldn't cost much money, so that's not an issue. Upshaw was never drafted to be a pass rusher... he's done the job he was drafted to do, which was fill the JJ role as a run stopping OLB.

 

4. I think Ngata has almost zero trade value, and I think you know that. Any team that wanted to trade for him would know that the ONLY reason we are trying to deal him is because we are going to cut him if we don't trade him (see Boldin, Anquan). AND, any team trading for him would almost certainly sign him to an extension upon doing so, so they really won't save that much money by doing it. And I incredibly doubt that any team would reasonably give up a 3rd round draft pick for a 30+ year old DT AND pay him $8-10M a year probably.

Seymour went for an early Round1 pick at 30. And N'gata can energize a whole DLine. And Brady did take a discount. It was called a joke cuz nobody thought he would play for $8 a year to complete that contract for that price but he is. The deal averaged $17mil a year b4 the discount kicked in but he is playing out the contract. There was speculation he would get a new contract but he didn't really unless u count the $1mil extra he got. So yeah, crunch the ##'s that's a discount!!

OK u say Torrey is worth that $$ or more for the one trick he brings to the table as his act. If they pay Torrey all that $$ there is still a need for a #1WR that's actually consistent but Torrey is a hometown player we root for to play well. But this board is for expressing opinions and that is yours.

In my opinion they can't afford to overpay another player or another bad contract. The Ray Rice deal was odd cuz nobody is paying that kinna capitol to RBs!! Especially a RB with lots of mileage like Rice. Then there is the Pitta contract given to a player with a long injury history and coming off hip surgery!! And the contract didn't contain injury insurance. Like I mentioned, if they pay Torrey $7-$8 mil a year and multiple Round2 and Round3 rookies outperform him, the contract is going to look bad!! Bad Bad Bad!! It will be a lightning rod for criticism and OZ Decosta Harbaugh and the front office is going to look bad cuz of the Torrey deal while still owing $$ against the cap to a RB and a player who has been injured more than he plays. Then you will have Torrey being paid all that $$ while being outperformed by a 36 yr old WR and multiple rookies drafted after Round1 around the league. You say $7mil a year or more is fair to pay Torrey. Its fair for you to put that value on him. We just have to comment on this post next year and see how Torrey is performing compared to his teammates, the other free agent WRs that get equal or less $$ than Torrey as well as Round2-7 rookie WRs. And decide if Torrey is worth that $$ as well as if it was a good idea to give him the contract. If Torrey is payed that kinna $$ however you do realize he will be expected to be far better than he was this year. He likely won't get half the interference penalties next year.

[Moderator 3]

Let's stick to the subject of Jacoby, please.

[rmcjacket23]

Seymour went for an early Round1 pick at 30. And N'gata can energize a whole DLine. And Brady did take a discount. It was called a joke cuz nobody thought he would play for $8 a year to complete that contract for that price but he is. The deal averaged $17mil a year b4 the discount kicked in but he is playing out the contract. There was speculation he would get a new contract but he didn't really unless u count the $1mil extra he got. So yeah, crunch the ##'s that's a discount!!

OK u say Torrey is worth that $$ or more for the one trick he brings to the table as his act. If they pay Torrey all that $$ there is still a need for a #1WR that's actually consistent but Torrey is a hometown player we root for to play well. But this board is for expressing opinions and that is yours.

In my opinion they can't afford to overpay another player or another bad contract. The Ray Rice deal was odd cuz nobody is paying that kinna capitol to RBs!! Especially a RB with lots of mileage like Rice. Then there is the Pitta contract given to a player with a long injury history and coming off hip surgery!! And the contract didn't contain injury insurance. Like I mentioned, if they pay Torrey $7-$8 mil a year and multiple Round2 and Round3 rookies outperform him, the contract is going to look bad!! Bad Bad Bad!! It will be a lightning rod for criticism and OZ Decosta Harbaugh and the front office is going to look bad cuz of the Torrey deal while still owing $$ against the cap to a RB and a player who has been injured more than he plays. Then you will have Torrey being paid all that $$ while being outperformed by a 36 yr old WR and multiple rookies drafted after Round1 around the league. You say $7mil a year or more is fair to pay Torrey. Its fair for you to put that value on him. We just have to comment on this post next year and see how Torrey is performing compared to his teammates, the other free agent WRs that get equal or less $$ than Torrey as well as Round2-7 rookie WRs. And decide if Torrey is worth that $$ as well as if it was a good idea to give him the contract. If Torrey is payed that kinna $$ however you do realize he will be expected to be far better than he was this year. He likely won't get half the interference penalties next year.

1. Everything you said about Brady is flat wrong. For starters, the idiots that said Brady took a "hometown discount" when he signed his new deal in 2013 (which averages $12M per season), yet the problem is that his deal was FULLY GUARANTEED for $60M, which was more guaranteed money than the likes of Joe Flacco got. That's a 35 year old QB getting a five year fully guaranteed contract for $60M. There isn't another team in this league, regardless of how desperate they are, that would give a 35 year old QB that deal. Not one. Secondly, the recent "paycut" that he took will actually net Brady MORE money in the long run if he isn't released, which seems unlikely anytime soon.

 

Here's a link to the article that explains this concept...http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2014/12/29/tom-brady-restructures-contract-frees-million-for-patriots/K0zl0j1y36gOshr4d6QuIK/story.html

 

2. You're using a bad comp from a team has since fired basically their entire FO staff to show how Ngata would potentially land a first round pick. But you already know thats unrealistic to begin with, and you're just grasping at straws.

 

3. At the time Ray Rice was actually given his contract, there were plenty of RBs getting paid that kind of money. Peterson signed for over $13M per season the exact same timeframe Rice did, McCoy signed for $7.5M a season a year later. Its only truly recently, in the last 1-2 years, that teams in the league have forced down the price of RBs. This also ignores the fact that this board didn't have many people claiming it was a bad deal at the time (same with Pitta), yet they only recognize it to be a bad deal AFTER they know what the future holds after it. Naturally, the FO doesn't have that luxury.

 

4. Signing Torrey doesn't stop this franchise one bit from attempting to draft another top-end WR... all it stops them from doing is targeting a highly paid one in FA, which isn't realistically going to happen and shouldn't happen regardless of whether Torrey is resigned or not.

[cursona pirate]

I hope he goes to a team I'm cool with. Like the Bills! 

[FlocksGottaFeed]

Oh the HUMANITY!!! Somebody thought it appropriate to bring Brady into a JJ thread.

 

That's just absolutely toxic. Sorry JJ.

[TDubbs]

Good luck to Jacoby and thanks for the memories. Imo, Elway won't forget what he did and I could see Denver bringing him in as KR/PR. 

[FoxRox75]

Well to be fair he did under-perform last season. But I know I speak for all of us when I say 2012 will never be forgotten, and he was an absolutely integral part of winning our second Lombardi. I can't recall a more exciting moment in my life watching football than Jacoby Jones's catch in the Denver game - and his two big Super Bowl plays were nearly as electric. Though I don't really disagree with letting him go, he has provided some truly incredible, unforgettable memories for us Ravens fans, and I thank him for his efforts in Baltimore. Mr. Jones, I wish you the best wherever you go.

[DomMcRaven]

I hope he goes to a team I'm cool with. Like the Bills! 

.....or the Cardinals.

[Tank 92]

.....or the Cardinals.

 

 

Don't we play the cards this year?  wouldn't want that.

[FoxRox75]

Though hopefully, he doesn't go to Pittsburgh...

[Tank 92]

A lot of players come and go, and no matter how hard you try to disconnect from players, it's still hard to see one of the Good Guys leave. 

 

Later Dragonfly and best of luck in whatever you do.

[Gordo52]

Thanks for all the great memories, Jacoby! I'm forever grateful for the plays he made. I hope he finds a good new home somewhere in the NFC...

This was definitely the right move...Hopefully it places more emphasis on the need for multiple receivers. If we lose Torrey, the need for a speed threat will become dire.

Who becomes KR & who are the main roster candidates?

[K-Dog]

Who becomes KR & who are the main roster candidates?

I am thinking Camp will give it a shot.

[Wildabeast88]

Thank you Jacoby you are awesome good luck.

[Whos_Up_Next]

I wanted Jacoby Jones to stay but they gave him a bad contract last offseason. I would've given him 2/$4 Mil at most. He was really clutch in 2012 and even in 2013 but this year he was strictly a kickoff returner. Assuming we're saving $3.3 mil this move is fine by me. It's a real shame to see him go, he was one of my favorite players. Thanks a lot Jacoby.

[jimjim5]

Yes! I can't wait to see Campanaro as a returner! I just have a gut feeling he is going to be something special.

 

 He is quick, not fast. The Ravens will look to fill the KR role with someone else. Campanero is not the answer as a KR.

[rmw10]

He's a big part of Ravens history for his part in that SB run, but this was a move that was pretty much forgone.  He didn't look like himself last year, and we did what we normally do by releasing a guy earlier and letting all teams have a shot rather than waiting and limiting his options.

[pep_meister]

c'monn.... imo his contract wasn't worth the cut. not with what he brought to the city, the game, the locker room... just seems like a guy who brings tons of positive energy.

[codizzle]

c'monn.... imo his contract wasn't worth the cut. not with what he brought to the city, the game, the locker room... just seems like a guy who brings tons of positive energy.

His roster is gone..

Now belongs to ..... Jeremy Butler

[GrimCoconut]

We should've let him go a year ago imo.

[rmcjacket23]

c'monn.... imo his contract wasn't worth the cut. not with what he brought to the city, the game, the locker room... just seems like a guy who brings tons of positive energy.

Awful lot of money to pay for "positive energy"...

[pep_meister]

Awful lot of money to pay for "positive energy"...

yeah and we still pay for matt elam....

 

and i said the game. he's a top returner... one heck of a luxury for 750k

[BmoreBird22]

The timing of the release is odd to me. The Ravens only save 750k, which is hardly much at all, so they must have something planned for free agency, hopefully getting a worthwhile receiver

[GrimCoconut]

The timing of the release is odd to me. The Ravens only save 750k, which is hardly much at all, so they must have something planned for free agency, hopefully getting a worthwhile receiver

It's not that surprising. We simply wanted to give him a chance to latch on elsewhere.

[BmoreBird22]

It's not that surprising. We simply wanted to give him a chance to latch on elsewhere.

By timing I meant why his year and not next