Dean Pees

[monkeycatt]

so all the negative talk about our DC hasn't been that loud lately that i could notice.  are we keeping him?  are we happy with him?  i know during the season a lot of people were vocal about wanting a change but i don't hear that much anymore and i havent' read anything about a coaching change.

 

[Logic52]

Pees is staying, unless he retires of resigns or has conflict with F.O, other than that I don't see him going anywhere. 

[Purple Punishment]

Our CBs were depleted to the point that we were calling up 5th stringers in the Couch Football League. We still played awesome but the secondary could not survive the cream of the crop with Antoine Cason and Frank Walker (Joke) on the outside...

[ravensfansince1998]

Pees is staying, and one of the few reasons why our secondary was so bad was injuries. However, you also got to give Spagnuolo credit for working with what he had.

[AsianRice]

Pees is going nowhere unless he retires.....

[CalvinSmoke]

Pees is solid. We are just a sploiled fan base lol

[K-Dog]

Pees is solid. We are just a sploiled fan base lol

That AND if we were to get rid of him, who would we replace him with?

 

Granted I know there are those here who would insist that they could do better them selves ( see my signature if that is you ) but I am in the real world.

[ravensdfan]

Pees is solid. We are just a sploiled fan base lol

There is nothing solid about giving up 2 14 pt leads. Nothing at all.

 

This year the excuse is injuries. What was it last year? What was it our SB year?

 

More importantly, what will it be this coming year?

 

He isn't solid. He's soft. That's his style. That isn't Ravens' style.

 

So yeah, I'd agree he isn't going anywhere, but that isn't a good thing in terms of our defense.

[AsianRice]

There is nothing solid about giving up 2 14 pt leads. Nothing at all.

 

This year the excuse is injuries. What was it last year? What was it our SB year?

 

More importantly, what will it be this coming year?

 

He isn't solid. He's soft. That's his style. That isn't Ravens' style.

 

So yeah, I'd agree he isn't going anywhere, but that isn't a good thing in terms of our defense.

Realistically, you know we have secondary practice squad playing in divisional round, going up against future HOF coach and QB?

we weren't even supposed to be in the playoff....

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Realistically, you know we have secondary practice squad playing in divisional round, going up against future HOF coach and QB?

we weren't even supposed to be in the playoff....

Nope. They're great corners. They can do no wrong. Pees is just that bad.

Pees is fine. He may not be aggressive, but with a healthy secondary he's effective. Pees staying is fine by me.

[Yatagarasu]

Dean Pees did good with what he had in the secondary.

 

It also didn't help that our young players (Elam and Brooks) underachieved.

 

I think the organization thought highly of Elam in playing the nickelback/3rd safety role, but that went out the window too.

 

This upcoming draft and free agency, we really need to restock our secondary.

 

Losing Corey Graham and Chykie Brown really hurt us.

[ellicottraven]

I suppose people are reconciled to having Pees around this year. He is not the most exciting D-Coordinator out there, but he's done an adequate enough job where he is untouchable.

[AsianRice]

Nope. They're great corners. They can do no wrong. Pees is just that bad.

Pees is fine. He may not be aggressive, but with a healthy secondary he's effective. Pees staying is fine by me.

great corners? by how many years under their belts except Webb? opps how many games to be exact....

[PurpleCity5]

That AND if we were to get rid of him, who would we replace him with?

 

Granted I know there are those here who would insist that they could do better them selves ( see my signature if that is you ) but I am in the real world.

Shoot, I wouldn't mind if the LBs coach Ted Monachino got a shot. 

 

Pees did a good job though. 

[ravensdfan]

great corners? by how many years under their belts except Webb? opps how many games to be exact....

He wasn't being serious, just snarky because he couldn't come up with reasons why our defense was just as unreliable with a lead in 2013 as in 2014 when we weren't injury depleted in 2013. They were better at holding in 2012, but still let a lot of leads get cut to dangerous levels. Once Lewis/Reed were gone, we saw what we actually get with Pees at the helm. Bend but break and then break again.

[balfan23]

I don't think the organization has a problem with him, just some fans. I've never heard anything anywhere that would indicate he was on any sort of a hot seat. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

He wasn't being serious, just snarky because he couldn't come up with reasons why our defense was just as unreliable with a lead in 2013 as in 2014 when we weren't injury depleted in 2013. They were better at holding in 2012, but still let a lot of leads get cut to dangerous levels. Once Lewis/Reed were gone, we saw what we actually get with Pees at the helm. Bend but break and then break again.

Same reason as above, lack of personnel in the front 7. 2014 saw the reemergence of McPhee, as well as the emergence of Williams, a legit nose tackle where Ngata didn't look as. Ngata moving back to his old position and  losing weight .  Smith was a good addition along with Canty and Dumervil. But even then the dline was a bit on the weaker side. We got a legit LB to put next to Smith(since there's something obviously wrong with Arthur Brown). 

 

Also, factor in the fact that our offense was a one and done machine in 2013. Exhaustion maybe?  Not to mention the only key acquisitions we had that season were Dumervil(who got hurt and dissapear), Canty(who got hurt), and Daryl Smith(who played well). Elam sucks, Brown didn't play much, Ngata isn't really a natural fit as a full time NT, and we weren't as good at stopping the run as we were this season. 

 

We retooled the front 7 the past two seasons. And we looked good this year! Yeah, we have a good defense. We'd have a great defense with our corners back.

 

Who did we lose?

Jimmy Smith

Terrance Brooks

Asa Jackson.

 

3 Starters. Three GOOD players(I liked what I saw from Brooks).  But yet, our front seven still played well. We also lost some more depth at corner. Again, practice squad players. Guys off the street going against a future all time great.  

 

Dean Pees will not be fired. We've lose games cause of injuries, lack of personnel these past two years. I'm not mad at Pees for that.  We have a healthy roster this year we're a legit pick for the SB because we'll have a good defense and a QB(with good protection) who can win the big one.  He's actually improved every year.I'll take that. 

[balfan23]

Also, factor in the fact that our offense was a one and done machine in 2013. Exhaustion maybe?

That is a very good point.

 

There were a few games where the defense held on and kept us in the game while the offense sputtered. Then the offense finally got something going and the defense couldn't hold the lead. If the defense had played poorly, those game would have been out of hand by the 4th quarter. 

 

They were a good defense, just not a great defense. Given the turnover in personnel, I'm not sure why it would be though that Pees should have had them playing like a great defense. 

 

But I get it ... people want results, not excuses. I really hope that we stay healthy and see what we can do and, if then we don't have the defensive results we've grown accustom to rooting for this team, then it will be time to ask for some accountability. 

[The Raven]

There is nothing solid about giving up 2 14 pt leads. Nothing at all.

 

This year the excuse is injuries. What was it last year? What was it our SB year?

 

More importantly, what will it be this coming year?

 

He isn't solid. He's soft. That's his style. That isn't Ravens' style.

 

So yeah, I'd agree he isn't going anywhere, but that isn't a good thing in terms of our defense.

 

He didn't give up two 14 point leads. The defenders who missed multiple tackles in third down situations did. Get real. Your hatred of Pees is just so blinding you can't even look at the facts. We had the Pats on third down twice, missed tackles, and the Pats scored. Not on Pees. 

[redrum52]

I love the off season around here.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

He didn't give up two 14 point leads. The defenders who missed multiple tackles in third down situations did. Get real. Your hatred of Pees is just so blinding you can't even look at the facts. We had the Pats on third down twice, missed tackles, and the Pats scored. Not on Pees.

I agree 100%.

+1

[Maryland]

Dean Pees' bend-but-don't-break defense is just really frustrating to watch, since he gives you the underneath stuff all day. It's good against mediocre QBs who can't string enough completions to keep a drive alive, but not very effective against guys like Brady who  naturally look to dink and dunk and run a lot of misdirection stuff. 

 

I don't think Pees is bad, but he's not exactly good either. He's at that perfect level where he will never be so good that he's in danger of leaving for a HC position, but he will never be bad enough to be fired. It is what it is.

 

As mentioned, our secondary was terrible, but our pass rush was elite. I think Pees did an acceptable job with the talent he had to work with. The reason we lost vs the Patriots was mostly due to bad tackling, and it's not like Pees really controls that.

 

I'll be interested to see how Pees performs as our pass rush gets older and our secondary improves. 

[DomMcRaven]

I love the off season around here.

I do too. Just wait till FA officially begins. 

[K-Dog]

I love the off season around here.

Man, these people are all year long.

SMH.

[usmccharles]

considering the injuries and suspensions he dealt with, im fine with how things went this season,  i like him.  i want him to stay. 

[Dubs]

Shoot, I wouldn't mind if the LBs coach Ted Monachino got a shot. 

 

Pees did a good job though. 

 

Really dont want to add fuel to the fire as I also think Pees has done well..but if we did I would love to see Monachino get the position. I really hope he does not get raided from the staff for a DC spot in the next couple of years

[Passepartout]

He is staying regardless. As John H will be keeping him in the forseeable future.

[Inqui]

Dean Pees is the Jeremy Zuttah of DCs. You could always stand an upgrade, but there's plenty of worse names out there. And as of today, an upgrade almost wouldn't be worth the hassle.

And besides, as much as everyone's been complaining about losing Kubiak I thought people would be a bit more appreciative of a guy who's good enough to at least not be a total liability but not likely to move under his own steam any time soon.

[CalvinSmoke]

I don't see Pees as a bad coordinator, his style works agaont great qbs. They get yards but they font score (of the players Keep discipline) the Seahawks played Brady very similiarly to how we do. They just made less mistakes

[52520Andrew]

Did people not see what the Pats did against the best defense in the NFL? And don't argue injuries on their part but ignore the injuries we had.