Arthur Brown at OLB? (speculation)

[JoeyFlex5]

I do not agree with that, you don't spend the 16th overall pick on a player that won't start immediately. They can hee-haw all they want about it being a competition but it was Mosley's job to lose not Arthurs, I am not saying it turned out bad, though.

this. 

 

it would have taken a hell of a camp performance for a youngin like brown to take that job. daryl wasnt losing that job to anyone because cj was the all star but daryl smith called the shots, the coaches didnt feel comfortable having a rookie spearheading the defense by calling out pre snap adjustments etc. 

 

i think there are 2 scenarios, either brown is just not looking good in practice, or they are just prepping him and keeping him healthy for the day they can unleash him on the world next to mosley when they are comfortable with him running the D on his own.

[JoeyFlex5]

I see it now. He finally gets Pt on his contract year. Plays at a pro Bowl level, and gets top dollar else where

i think so too. next year he will make the active roster and step in on occasion and show great promise, while daryl smith regresses, the following year cj and brown are full time starters and daryl smith is released right before the start of free agency, arthur brown comes in and plays navarro bowman to mosleys patrick willis, arthur brown goes to cleveland making 10mil per year and then gets swallowed by the ravens o-line twice a year

Edited March 22, 2015 by JoeyFlex5

[stampedehero]

The real problem is that Brown has almost exclusive expereince in a 4-3 scheme and doesn't have a 3-4 body. I feel the failure is a bit more forcing him to try to be something he isn't more than he flat out sucks. 

"he flat out sucks"   That phrase tones the condition to the T

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

If he is fast enough maybe he can convert to a big bodied saefty we still need some depth there LOL.....But seriously I dont know what his 40 time   was.

[ravensnick]

If he is fast enough maybe he can convert to a big bodied saefty we still need some depth there LOL.....But seriously I dont know what his 40 time   was.

I believe it was in the high 4.5-low 4.6 range at 227 lbs at the combine. Which means he is athletic enough to lose weight and play safety. Thing is, he would need to get around 220 lbs, while currently being at 235 lbs. While having no playing experience at safety. Just sounds like a bad idea to me. 

Edited March 22, 2015 by ravensnick

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I believe it was in the high 4.5-low 4.6 range at 227 lbs at the combine. Which means he is athletic enough to lose weight and play safety. Thing is, he would need to get around 220 lbs, while currently being at 235 lbs. While having no playing experience at safety. Just sounds like a bad idea to me. 

Just a thought I figured it would be a long shot but it would be nice to get some return off of a 2nd round investment LOL..

[ravensnick]

Just a thought I figured it would be a long shot but it would be nice to get some return off of a 2nd round investment LOL..

I think he hasn't got many chance simply because of the level of play in front of him and that he can't contribute on ST. I think he could make an impact soon with Daryl aging. 

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I think he hasn't got many chance simply because of the level of play in front of him and that he can't contribute on ST. I think he could make an impact soon with Daryl aging. 

Good point.....

[Edgar]

I still believe Arthur Brown will be a great linebacker....needs a shot.

[Ravens1991]

I don't think I ever was as excited for a second round pick as I was with him and how he played in college. I hope he gets it together and makes an impact

[Blackbirds Rule]

Arthur Brown was my favorite draft pick that year. I just want to see him on the field. Hopefully this preseason he'll get some extended reps and show us how good he is.

[TwistednlitJay]

As people have already stated I think he's too small for OLB. I also don't think he'd ever crack in to the rotation if he moved even with Mcphee gone. If he hits the weight this offseason as I'm sure the staff will make him do I'm pretty comfortable having him as a backup for CJ. Having him come off the bench will allow one of the starting ILB take a breather on obvious passing downs as well. 

[Static]

How about we leave him at MLB and let him keep grooming behind two probow caliber Linebackers and let him step in and wreck the league when Daryl retires.

 

He will get his time. He was 235 in training Camp and was reportedly lighting fast with excellent instincts. 

[ellicottraven]

I think the position that would best suit him would be that of a strong safety. He is a tweener between a LB and a safety in terms of size.

[Tru11]

he will be a good fill in when smith looses a step due to age.

[Blackbirds Rule]

he will be a good fill in when smith looses a step due to age.

I think so too However I want him to get some reps in too though before then.

[443hurricane]

I told Grim I thought he was a bust, I'm sticking to my prediction.  He has spent 730 of his professional playing career on the bench.  He's from Kansas he has plenty of money, but does he have the desire.

 

 

I will say this though.. Put him on a team that has a 4-3 scheme and you will see something solid out of him.

[RavensNation14]

Doubt they move him to OLB. He would of been our starting ILB this year but you couldn't pass on Mosley there. He's solid depth and will take over once Daryl Smith is done which may be after this year. 

[redlobster]

I told Grim I thought he was a bust, I'm sticking to my prediction.  He has spent 730 of his professional playing career on the bench.  He's from Kansas he has plenty of money, but does he have the desire.

 

 

I will say this though.. Put him on a team that has a 4-3 scheme and you will see something solid out of him.

 

What does being from Kansas have anything to do with it?

 

He has only made $1.93 million between his signing bonus and first two year salaries. Before taxes and agent fee's. Now thats a heck of alot more than I ever will but not all of Kansas is farms and po'dunk either.

Edited April 15, 2015 by redlobster

[GrimCoconut]

I told Grim I thought he was a bust, I'm sticking to my prediction. He has spent 730 of his professional playing career on the bench. He's from Kansas he has plenty of money, but does he have the desire.

I will say this though.. Put him on a team that has a 4-3 scheme and you will see something solid out of him.

I'll admit he hasn't panned out yet as I hoped and he's proved you right but it's too early to give up on him just like it's too early on Elam. This year should tell us what we need to know though. Edited April 15, 2015 by GrimCoconut

[443hurricane]

What does being from Kansas have anything to do with it?

 

He has only made $1.93 million between his signing bonus and first two year salaries. Before taxes and agent fee's. Now thats a heck of alot more than I ever will but not all of Kansas is farms and po'dunk either.

Agreed and I was saying  referring to the cost of living when I mentioned Kansas.

[443hurricane]

I'll admit he hasn't panned out yet as I hoped and he's proved you right but it's too early to give up on him just like it's too early on Elam. This year should tell us what we need to know though.

I would concur, I hope he proves me wrong. He has all the tools physically just want to see him put it all together.

[jdynamite]

I was optimistic for Arthur Brown. 2 full seasons not much playing time, not even special teams.... Has me remembering how he couldn't get PT at the U although he was our top recruit. Sean spence and others out played, then he transferred back home to Kansas and went to K-state and became a tackling machine.

[Tenacious Faulker]

This isn't backed up by facts at all. But could he play there? The middle is going to be pre occupiued for another 2-3 years, shall we let him put his speed to use while he can learn behind a smaller technician in Doom?

 

It's very doubtful for many reasons.  Likely expressed here already - he's too small unless we move to a 4-3 front and make him a SAM or WILL MLB.  Also, the middle might be vacated earlier than you think.  Daryl Smith will be 34 when the season starts.  He may not last until the end of his contract when he'll be 36.  Chances are he'll be more prone to injury the next few years and Brown will become even more relied upon.  

 

I was once of the mind last year that we should trade him.  However, he's our 3rd ILB and a 2nd rd pick.  After him is Albert McClellan and Zack Orr and that's it.  I can see them targeting an ILB somewhere in the draf this year for depth, but, depending on how the draft shakes out, I wouldn't be upset with a 2nd round pick spent on one of the top ILBs - Kendrincks, Dawson, McKinney.

[redrum52]

Arthur Brown to outside left bench? Why waste the bench space when he doesn't dress anyway?

[redrum52]

I would concur, I hope he proves me wrong. He has all the tools physically just want to see him put it all together.

Paul Kruger was another player who's reps were limited and saw very little time on the field, but when he got his chance, he shined. I haven't given up faith in Art, just think he's in a crowded position group and doesn't provide anything for ST.

[443hurricane]

Paul Kruger was another player who's reps were limited and saw very little time on the field, but when he got his chance, he shined. I haven't given up faith in Art, just think he's in a crowded position group and doesn't provide anything for ST.

How would you feel if we draft another ILB this year?

[redrum52]

How would you feel if we draft another ILB this year?

Wouldn't be mad. If you look at the 13 draft, not too many picks seem to be working out that well, yet, we were able to find a 3 starters, though they were later round picks. For fun, go back and look at the first round. You go with best available and ILB will be a need soon with Smith being up there in age. I wanted a wr last yeat, but the team took the same 3 positions with our first 3 picks and showed me they have a much better grasp of what to do than myself. I trust our FO, for the most part, to make the right decision.

[443hurricane]

Wouldn't be mad. If you look at the 13 draft, not too many picks seem to be working out that well, yet, we were able to find a 3 starters, though they were later round picks. For fun, go back and look at the first round. You go with best available and ILB will be a need soon with Smith being up there in age. I wanted a wr last yeat, but the team took the same 3 positions with our first 3 picks and showed me they have a much better grasp of what to do than myself. I trust our FO, for the most part, to make the right decision.

Agreed, I'm gonna look back at both the 2012 and 2013 drafts.. Just to see who panned out.

[Culpepper]

Personally I think we are just going have him back up Smith. I think if he was good enough he would have gotten on the field at this point.