What the Ravens can learn from Superbowl 49

[cobrajet]

I learned that nobody is going to be talking about that deep ball Flacco threw in the divisional round after seeing Wilson get picked off at the 1.

Yet Skip still called Flacco the name with the u in it, but no one is calling out the Wilson's throw, just the play call. He is the ultimate hypocrite.

[cobrajet]

I learned that the Patriots win over the Ravens by dink and dunk was not a fluke, they beat the great Legion of Boom with the same stuff. Pees better be prepared for it next season if we meet them again in the playoffs.

[ratedr]

Yet Skip still called Flacco the name with the u in it, but no one is calling out the Wilson's throw, just the play call. He is the ultimate hypocrite.

Twitter was all over Flacco for it. Not a peep about Wilson though. It was a poor throw that should've been lower into the receiver's body.

[Tiz]

Yet Skip still called Flacco the name with the u in it, but no one is calling out the Wilson's throw, just the play call. He is the ultimate hypocrite.

It's because flacco stomps on all skips hopes and dreams.

[omar586]

The Ravens had a great season.  They're a team that consistently uses almost every avenue to grab talent available....

 

... but there is one that is consistently ignored.

 

Two of the most important players this years Superbowl were Chris Matthews and Brandon Browner.

 

What did they both have in common?

 

Both were STUDS in the CFL.  A league that Baltimore once dominated in.

 

The Ravens, while being an elite team for at least the entire time under John Harbaugh, have completely ignored the CFL.  They ignored Cameron Wake.  They ignored Jerrell Freeman.  They ignored the little known Chris Matthews who almost became a Superbowl MVP.  They ignored Brandon Browner.  They ignored Duron Carter.

 

Why?

 

 

It might be the biggest mistake this front office consistently makes.

 

Does the league consistently create all-pro's?  Obviously not.  But to not even ever work these guys out....?  It's dumb.

what they can learn from SB?

 

 

 

run it from the 1 yard goal line

[D-Rey]

Ozzie should Google my mock drafts. I had Matthews on mine a few years ago as a late round selection he has good size and  put up good numbers in the SEC. Dont forget most players come from the college ranks in the US.

Yet he wasn't anything that special when I watched him play for the Iowa Barnstormers in the AFL. He was decent, but not great.

[rmcjacket23]

Yet he wasn't anything that special when I watched him play for the Iowa Barnstormers in the AFL. He was decent, but not great.

He's still not anything special. Gotta play a lot better than that for a lot longer period of time.

[D-Rey]

He's still not anything special. Gotta play a lot better than that for a lot longer period of time.

Definitely agree. We have seen some players play great in the big game and do nothing after. We actually signed one of those in Tyree. Though Matthews did show some potential.

[757RavensFan]

Yet Skip still called Flacco the name with the u in it, but no one is calling out the Wilson's throw, just the play call. He is the ultimate hypocrite.

 

IMO, I would say it was a better defensive play then it was a bad throw by Wilson.  If that guy isn't there, that's a TD catch.  I don't know how you can say a pass that was going directly to the intended receiver was a bad throw.  I hate the fact that the Pats won more than anyone, but give the rookie some credit, he made a GREAT defensive play. 

[rmcjacket23]

IMO, I would say it was a better defensive play then it was a bad throw by Wilson.  If that guy isn't there, that's a TD catch.  I don't know how you can say a pass that was going directly to the intended receiver was a bad throw.  I hate the fact that the Pats won more than anyone, but give the rookie some credit, he made a GREAT defensive play. 

The only way you could argue the throw was bad is because he essentially led the receiver even after already seeing and knowning that the corner was jumping the route.

 

Ironically, if Wilson made a "bad throw" and put the ball behind his receiver a bit, its probably an easy TD.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I learned Joe is who I thought he was. Joe outplayed both QBs Tom Brady had to face in the AFC

Championship game and in the SB. He outplayed Tom Brady. Ozzie needs to fix our secondary and add a #1 WR,TE & RB to next year's Super Bowl team. I doubt seriously that Dennis will ever play again and even if he does he won't be the same as he was pre-hip injury. In the secondary, we need a stud safety and

a fast, physical CB to play opposite a healthy(hopefully) Jimmy Smith. With all due respect to Steve

Smith Sr., he is 7 or 8 inches (count'em) shorter than Chris Matthews of the Seahawks. We need a tall &

tough #1 WR and a fearless slot receiver like Ammendola or Edelman. Is that too much to ask of a Wizard?

[DomMcRaven]

I learned Joe is who I thought he was. Joe outplayed both QBs Tom Brady had to face in the AFC

Championship game and in the SB. He outplayed Tom Brady. Ozzie needs to fix our secondary and add a #1 WR,TE & RB to next year's Super Bowl team. I doubt seriously that Dennis will ever play again and even if he does he won't be the same as he was pre-hip injury. In the secondary, we need a stud safety and

a fast, physical CB to play opposite a healthy(hopefully) Jimmy Smith. With all due respect to Steve

Smith Sr., he is 7 or 8 inches (count'em) shorter than Chris Matthews of the Seahawks. We need a tall &

tough #1 WR and a fearless slot receiver like Ammendola or Edelman. Is that too much to ask of a Wizard?

Nope. He's not a wizard. He's THE wizard.

[usmccharles]

I learned Joe is who I thought he was. Joe outplayed both QBs Tom Brady had to face in the AFC

Championship game and in the SB. He outplayed Tom Brady. Ozzie needs to fix our secondary and add a #1 WR,TE & RB to next year's Super Bowl team. I doubt seriously that Dennis will ever play again and even if he does he won't be the same as he was pre-hip injury. In the secondary, we need a stud safety and

a fast, physical CB to play opposite a healthy(hopefully) Jimmy Smith. With all due respect to Steve

Smith Sr., he is 7 or 8 inches (count'em) shorter than Chris Matthews of the Seahawks. We need a tall &

tough #1 WR and a fearless slot receiver like Ammendola or Edelman. Is that too much to ask of a Wizard?

Yea, lets address all that in one off season, seems legit

[rmcjacket23]

Yea, lets address all that in one off season, seems legit

If we could get all of that in two offseasons, I'd consider it an incredible success.

[usmccharles]

as would i...

[FlocksGottaFeed]

I learned that we're up next. Ravens win the 50th.

[jimjim5]

What you learn can learn is that execution alone is not the formula for winning it all; EXPLOITATION OF OPPOSING TEAM'S WEAKNESSES combined with execution wins championships.

[jazz1988]

I learned Joe is who I thought he was. Joe outplayed both QBs Tom Brady had to face in the AFC

Championship game and in the SB. He outplayed Tom Brady. Ozzie needs to fix our secondary and add a #1 WR,TE & RB to next year's Super Bowl team. I doubt seriously that Dennis will ever play again and even if he does he won't be the same as he was pre-hip injury. In the secondary, we need a stud safety and

a fast, physical CB to play opposite a healthy(hopefully) Jimmy Smith. With all due respect to Steve

Smith Sr., he is 7 or 8 inches (count'em) shorter than Chris Matthews of the Seahawks. We need a tall &

tough #1 WR and a fearless slot receiver like Ammendola or Edelman. Is that too much to ask of a Wizard?

 

I really don't think a true number one receiver is needed but more talent at the receiver spot is always cool.  I think we kinda already have our fearless slot receiver in Steve Smith and Micheal Campanaro could potentially be that to.

[DomMcRaven]

I really don't think a true number one receiver is needed but more talent at the receiver spot is always cool.  I think we kinda already have our fearless slot receiver in Steve Smith and Micheal Campanaro could potentially be that to.

I think frozen joe flacco fan meant by for the future. SSS won't be here for long and Camps has had his injury issues. I love his potential, but I just want him to remain healthy.  

[Tiz]

Does anybody care that the Falcons are being investigated for pumping in noise at home games?

There's a thread for that already.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

I learned that Josh McDaniels was the true Super Bowl MVP.

Collingsworth was pointing it out over and over how easy Brady had it: just tossing short passes to the receiver running underneath the coverage after the other receivers had cleared out the zone for him.

Easy pass, easier read, and best of all Brady never had to worry about getting her hair mussed too badly by those mean old pass rushers.

Because when the Seahawks actually got to him, that's when he threw those 2 awful picks.

Brady may not be a product of that scheme, per se, but he clearly benefits from it like no other QB benefits from their scheme.

Can you imagine how many INTs he'd throw if he had to hold onto the ball more and deal with rushers in his face as often as other QBs?

[CalvinSmoke]

1) Gotta give Pees more credit, the Patriots know how to deal with bigger physical defenses. The attacked Chancellor the same way they attacked Will Hill. It's not Pees, the Patriots are really just ahead of their time with those passing schemes.

 

2) Seattle's offense looked like the Ravens offense of old, and Russel looked like hot garbage, very reminiscent of how Flacco looked with the simple route trees and verticals. Matthews bailed him out the way Torrey used to for Joe.

 

3) Baltimore truly could have won the Super Bowl this year, let's get it next year. 

[TSizzle00]

After some thought I came to the conclusion the choice to throw was not as bad as it seems, I will explain.

 

Everyone in the country assumed they would run and certainly the Pats would expect it. They chose to do the opposite of what everyone expected which was throw. Not only did they throw but they threw against a DB who was a backup of a backup of a backup and was an undrafted rookie. Why not exploit him when everyone expects you to run? With those factors they probably liked the matchup and expected at worse for an incompletion. On the very next play they would have probably ran the ball in with Lynch. On the radio they said that was the first time the ball had been picked off that close all year long so its not as if the stats were going against the throw (even though throwing in the redzone is difficult).

[rmcjacket23]

After some thought I came to the conclusion the choice to throw was not as bad as it seems, I will explain.

 

Everyone in the country assumed they would run and certainly the Pats would expect it. They chose to do the opposite of what everyone expected which was throw. Not only did they throw but they threw against a DB who was a backup of a backup of a backup and was an undrafted rookie. Why not exploit him when everyone expects you to run? With those factors they probably liked the matchup and expected at worse for an incompletion. On the very next play they would have probably ran the ball in with Lynch. On the radio they said that was the first time the ball had been picked off that close all year long so its not as if the stats were going against the throw (even though throwing in the redzone is difficult).

Belichick didn't expect it at all, which is why he spent time during practice going over how to defend basically that exact play.

 

In fact, he spent time yelling at the corner who jumped the route for the INT in practice that he wasn't being aggressive enough to play the ball.

 

Belichick had his team well prepared for that play in that situation.

[757RavensFan]

After some thought I came to the conclusion the choice to throw was not as bad as it seems, I will explain.

 

Everyone in the country assumed they would run and certainly the Pats would expect it. They chose to do the opposite of what everyone expected which was throw. Not only did they throw but they threw against a DB who was a backup of a backup of a backup and was an undrafted rookie. Why not exploit him when everyone expects you to run? With those factors they probably liked the matchup and expected at worse for an incompletion. On the very next play they would have probably ran the ball in with Lynch. On the radio they said that was the first time the ball had been picked off that close all year long so its not as if the stats were going against the throw (even though throwing in the redzone is difficult).

 

A throw to the near or far pylon is the only pass I would consider under those circumstances.  Entirely too much traffic in the middle.

[Tru11]

After some thought I came to the conclusion the choice to throw was not as bad as it seems, I will explain.

 

Everyone in the country assumed they would run and certainly the Pats would expect it. They chose to do the opposite of what everyone expected which was throw. Not only did they throw but they threw against a DB who was a backup of a backup of a backup and was an undrafted rookie. Why not exploit him when everyone expects you to run? With those factors they probably liked the matchup and expected at worse for an incompletion. On the very next play they would have probably ran the ball in with Lynch. On the radio they said that was the first time the ball had been picked off that close all year long so its not as if the stats were going against the throw (even though throwing in the redzone is difficult).

 

when you have lynch and you need 1 yard , you run it unless its 11 in the box and the wrs are uncoverd on the outside.

 

heck they could have QB sneaked it a couple of times to get in.

 

passing in such limited space is asking for trouble.

[deacfan]

I think frozen joe flacco fan meant by for the future. SSS won't be here for long and Camps has had his injury issues. I love his potential, but I just want him to remain healthy.  

Both Amendola and Edleman battled the injury bug early in their career as well. Camp is the next guy and WE have him!!

[DomMcRaven]

Both Amendola and Edleman battled the injury bug early in their career as well. Camp is the next guy and WE have him!!

Good points. I love what I've seen from Camps and he could may very well be our #1 in the future. But let's just hope he has success on the field first (preferably like Edelman).

[Tank 92]

I learned Joe is who I thought he was. Joe outplayed both QBs Tom Brady had to face in the AFC

Championship game and in the SB. He outplayed Tom Brady. Ozzie needs to fix our secondary and add a #1 WR,TE & RB to next year's Super Bowl team. I doubt seriously that Dennis will ever play again and even if he does he won't be the same as he was pre-hip injury. In the secondary, we need a stud safety and

a fast, physical CB to play opposite a healthy(hopefully) Jimmy Smith. With all due respect to Steve

Smith Sr., he is 7 or 8 inches (count'em) shorter than Chris Matthews of the Seahawks. We need a tall &

tough #1 WR and a fearless slot receiver like Ammendola or Edelman. Is that too much to ask of a Wizard?

 

 

I'm with this, other than the slot receiver.  Camp is the guy there.

 

Even though it will hurt the cap next year and barring some bionic medical procedure, I hope Pitta stays off the field. Don't know if I could bear to watch........ On the bright side, I think Gilmore will prove to be more than he appears. 

 

We need the big, physical(built like an NBA power forward) receiver with hands. 

[stampedehero]

Biggest thing I learned from the Superbowl is that we were only a corner or 2 away from playing in the game, god i want Jimmy back

That is truth......