Ravens Coach John Harbaugh. Is he a Hypocrite?

[Yaha]

What a game tonight's Superbowl. A shame the Seahawks didn't have a real chance of winning the game because a basic football 101 play call wasn't call and we tried to fool them.

COME ON MAN!! Pete Carroll blew it. He decided to waste a play passing the ball because the Patriots were in a pass defensive setup? What the heck?.. A ton of things could go wrong, bad snap, a sack or yes an interception. Run Russell Wilson on a fake, or hand it to Lynch anyway. Oh My.

So this is my question to Ravens fans and fans across the football world.

Do you think it's right for John Harbaugh on live TV, offers up he would of ran the ball 3 times if he was in that position as the Seahawks were.

We will never know if Seahawks would of scored, but give Lynch a chance and believe me he would of scored.

Why do I think in my honest opinion John Harbs fits in the category of a typical Hypocrite.

The Ravens were driving and running the ball at will on the Patriots with a minute to go in the AFC championship game and gave the ok to throw deep to Torrey and it is pick off, game over.

Again, tonight after the game. John offer to the world he would of ran the ball if he was the coach. What's wrong here?

Again, I don't like John as I said before many times in other threads, he is overrated. I know his record is great as a head coach, but it takes a "TEAM" to win games, not John. So if John gets the credit in the record books for wins, tough faults/losses falls on the shoulder of the coach-Harbaugh and tonight Carroll when you are not prepared to make the game winning call/play.. The Patriots seems to out coach many teams game after game. Year after year. Wow, I still wonder if Billicheck would of came here how our destiny would of been. I am happy so far because I love my team the Ravens and all the players, but am upset Harbs don't take credit for blown calls or mistakes that's all.

I can't stand Tom Brady because of his

out cries to the refs game after game and he gets the nod. Maybe we the Ravens should start thinking outside the box and deflate the waste in the locker room. Already for 2015.

P.S. Did anyone see the Refs announce the Patriots eligible players and ineligible players twice live on TV and gave the Seahawks to adjust? That was the same ref in the Pats/Ravens game. Go figure.

[ludy51]

Oh and we were never goal-to-go from the one so no he isn't

[The Raven]

1. A hypocrite, not an. Basic English.

2. No, to answer your question.

3. We weren't on the goal line and we were in the two minute drill, so no, we shouldn't have freaking ran it.

4. John has the highest winning percentage since he entered the league. It's just dumb to not like him as a coach.

[ravensdfan]

We weren't ever goal to go from the one yard line. Vast difference here.

 

If we were on the 1 yd line, I'm pretty sure Harbaugh would have taken his shots on the ground.

 

Not to mention, we have nothing like Lynch.

[Yaha]

Thanks for being the great grammar police.

 

At least Pete Carroll didn't mock the reporters for their questions on why the play went bad or what really happened.

 

If that was Harb's being question on the play call.  

Something like this would of been said. "What would of you called" that is plain stupid to ask such a question. Please don't forget that mean foggy stare John has when we lose big games either. Maybe since the NFL is the beast in $$$/Revenue in pro sports, John should be taught how to take hard questions fans of pro football need answered.

 

Sorry, not a John Harb's fan.

[AsianRice]

need to change the title cuz it is an insult to our great coach Harbaugh....

[ratedr]

LOL @ thinking the situation is even comparable. They were at the HALF YARD LINE with the consensus most powerful back in the league. Stop.

[GrimCoconut]

You're talking about when we were 2-5 at the Patriots 36. Yeah, we could have ran the ball but with 1:36 left on the clock but we wanted to go for the throat and get a TD or get a deep play where we could run the ball into the endzone to eat up the clock. These are two very different situations, whereas the Seahawks were on the goal line with a freaking beast of a RB in Marshawn Lynch. If you have Lynch at the goal line at the 1-yard line or whatever it was you HAVE to go for the run on that. It's too perfect. I know they wanted to try to surprise the Patriots but they called that the whole way. 

 

I think your dislike of Harbaugh is clouding your judgment. 

[K-Dog]

1. A hypocrite, not an. Basic English.

 

2. No, to answer your question.

 

3. We weren't on the goal line and we were in the two minute drill, so no, we shouldn't have freaking ran it.

 

4. John has the highest winning percentage since he entered the league. It's just dumb to not like him as a coach.

In addition to all these great answers ...

Marshawn Lynch > any RB on our team.

[Tank 92]

Ruh roh

[pitchblack_20]

Isn't Lynch a FA this offseason? How hard will it be to talk him coming here into existence ?

[jazz1988]

Isn't Lynch a FA this offseason? How hard will it be to talk him coming here into existence ?

 

No he's a free agent in 2016

[Ravenslifer]

What a game tonight's Superbowl. A shame the Seahawks didn't have a real chance of winning the game because a basic football 101 play call wasn't call and we tried to fool them.

COME ON MAN!! Pete Carroll blew it. He decided to waste a play passing the ball because the Patriots were in a pass defensive setup? What the heck?.. A ton of things could go wrong, bad snap, a sack or yes an interception. Run Russell Wilson on a fake, or hand it to Lynch anyway. Oh My.

So this is my question to Ravens fans and fans across the football world.

Do you think it's right for John Harbaugh on live TV, offers up he would of ran the ball 3 times if he was in that position as the Seahawks were.

We will never know if Seahawks would of scored, but give Lynch a chance and believe me he would of scored.

Why do I think in my honest opinion John Harbs fits in the category of a typical Hypocrite.

The Ravens were driving and running the ball at will on the Patriots with a minute to go in the AFC championship game and gave the ok to throw deep to Torrey and it is pick off, game over.

 

 

What's laughable about you're entire argument is that John failed to score once already in the playoffs (though we still won the game) doing EXACTLY what you're saying he didn't do.  Go back to 2011 vs. Houston - 4:01 left in the third quarter, we're up 17-13 at that point, first and goal from the 9.  4 straight runs and all we do is run it down to the 1 yard line, don't take the points, don't score a TD.  

[xxDarby]

Isn't Lynch a FA this offseason? How hard will it be to talk him coming here into existence ?

Essentially impossible. If he his the open market he probably goes to the raiders

[Ravenslifer]

Isn't Lynch a FA this offseason? How hard will it be to talk him coming here into existence ?

 

He's also going to be 29 and going into his 9th season as a pro, all as a starter.  You saw what Rice was in 2013 - obviously injured, but at this point in his career Lynch would be 3 years older and has carried the ball 800 times more than Rice had going into the 2013 season (Lynch has 2000 carries not including the playoffs, Rice in the regular season had 1200 carries through the 2012 season).  And the reality is that runningbacks die out fast - Shaun Alexander, LT, Edge, Jamal Lewis, Chris Johnson, MJD - all of these guys went from pro-bowlers one year to falling off a cliff the next year, in terms of production.  In addition, Lynch would have to come here on a cheap deal, and I don't think he will - there is going to be a team out there that offers him more than market value, and it won't be the Ravens.

[gooftroop]

The refs were as confused as we were- something I reckon the Patriots were counting on. The league has addressed it . After the damage was done, unfortunately...

[Bryden88]

Hypocrite? Hell no. They had Beastmode at their disposal. That changes everything. Seahawks should have run it. Harbs is right.

[berad]

Seahawks needed a big, fluky pass to get to the goal-line in the first place. Not hypocritical, not the same scenario. And we WOULD have run it 3 times, probably - we did last season even when our OL and running game was historically terrible.

[arnie_uk]

He's ran it 4 times and never made it from goal To go at 1, so yes I would have believe him

[Tru11]

he makes questionable decisions at times yes but I doubt he would go pass if we had lynch in that situation.

 

he made the right decision to go pass against the pats since we need quite a few yards to get into the endzone with time running down.

the only thing questionable was throwing it into double coverage or calling a deep pattern lol.

 

you thinking a lil bit to much.

[Ravenseconbeast]

We were never in the goal line.

[Tiz]

Op clearly doesn't watch Ravens games.

[dirtybird10]

run it 3 times, try a pass, no big deal, however, running a quick slant into the middle a defense selling out on the run was not a good decision at all with the Super Bowl on the line. When I look at the play again, I will say the matchup looked pretty good when you see the route the receiver was taking, for a split second. Whether Wilson was late, or not, but he definitely led the receiver a little too much, because if that ball was in the receivers numbers or even a little behind him, that ball is caught our Pass Interference. If they were going to try and run a pass play, they should have rolled Wilson out, that way he could throw it away if the play didn't work out the way they thought. That play call was just... odd.

[PurpleCorsair]

What a game tonight's Superbowl. A shame the Seahawks didn't have a real chance of winning the game because a basic football 101 play call wasn't call and we tried to fool them.

COME ON MAN!! Pete Carroll blew it. He decided to waste a play passing the ball because the Patriots were in a pass defensive setup? What the heck?.. A ton of things could go wrong, bad snap, a sack or yes an interception. Run Russell Wilson on a fake, or hand it to Lynch anyway. Oh My.

So this is my question to Ravens fans and fans across the football world.

Do you think it's right for John Harbaugh on live TV, offers up he would of ran the ball 3 times if he was in that position as the Seahawks were.

We will never know if Seahawks would of scored, but give Lynch a chance and believe me he would of scored.

Why do I think in my honest opinion John Harbs fits in the category of a typical Hypocrite.

The Ravens were driving and running the ball at will on the Patriots with a minute to go in the AFC championship game and gave the ok to throw deep to Torrey and it is pick off, game over.

 

A couple of things here. One, It was the divisional round not the AFC championship. Two, Harbaugh has never called plays for the offense. Similarly Pete Carrol does not call the plays for the Seahawks offense.

 

[The Raven]

 

A couple of things here. One, It was the divisional round not the AFC championship. Two, Harbaugh has never called plays for the offense. Similarly Pete Carrol does not call the plays for the Seahawks offense.

 

 

Actually, it was Carrol's decision to pass there instead of run. He wanted to pass on second down, and then run on third and fourth if needed. Dumb strategy.

[Willbacker]

I believe Bevall is really being laid under the bus. He had only one TO left on 2nd down so therefore he had 2 more plays left counting that timeout and possibly could have scored a TD. You're not thinking of turning the ball over or otherwise you'd be playing scared or consevative.

 

Now the thing with Harbs being hypocritical. Absolutely not. I firmly believe he would have wanted 3 rushing plays in a row but would you have been able to run a 4th with the time and timeout situations.

 

And to the op are you seriously comparing a play on the 36 with 40 some seconds remaining with 2 TOs to a play on the goalline with 1 TO and 26 sec remaining.

[Tiz]

I believe Bevall is really being laid under the bus. He had only one TO left on 2nd down so therefore he had 2 more plays left counting that timeout and possibly could have scored a TD. You're not thinking of turning the ball over or otherwise you'd be playing scared or consevative.

 

Now the thing with Harbs being hypocritical. Absolutely not. I firmly believe he would have wanted 3 rushing plays in a row but would you have been able to run a 4th with the time and timeout situations.

 

And to the op are you seriously comparing a play on the 36 with 40 some seconds remaining with 2 TOs to a play on the goalline with 1 TO and 26 sec remaining.

Disagree on bevall primarily because Seattle hasn't placed blame in him. Carroll has repeatedly indicated he, not bevall, made the call. No one wants to listen tho.

[ellicottraven]

What a game tonight's Superbowl. A shame the Seahawks didn't have a real chance of winning the game because a basic football 101 play call wasn't call and we tried to fool them.

COME ON MAN!! Pete Carroll blew it. He decided to waste a play passing the ball because the Patriots were in a pass defensive setup? What the heck?.. A ton of things could go wrong, bad snap, a sack or yes an interception. Run Russell Wilson on a fake, or hand it to Lynch anyway. Oh My.

So this is my question to Ravens fans and fans across the football world.

Do you think it's right for John Harbaugh on live TV, offers up he would of ran the ball 3 times if he was in that position as the Seahawks were.

We will never know if Seahawks would of scored, but give Lynch a chance and believe me he would of scored.

Why do I think in my honest opinion John Harbs fits in the category of a typical Hypocrite.

The Ravens were driving and running the ball at will on the Patriots with a minute to go in the AFC championship game and gave the ok to throw deep to Torrey and it is pick off, game over.

Again, tonight after the game. John offer to the world he would of ran the ball if he was the coach. What's wrong here?

Again, I don't like John as I said before many times in other threads, he is overrated. I know his record is great as a head coach, but it takes a "TEAM" to win games, not John. So if John gets the credit in the record books for wins, tough faults/losses falls on the shoulder of the coach-Harbaugh and tonight Carroll when you are not prepared to make the game winning call/play.. The Patriots seems to out coach many teams game after game. Year after year. Wow, I still wonder if Billicheck would of came here how our destiny would of been. I am happy so far because I love my team the Ravens and all the players, but am upset Harbs don't take credit for blown calls or mistakes that's all.

I can't stand Tom Brady because of his

out cries to the refs game after game and he gets the nod. Maybe we the Ravens should start thinking outside the box and deflate the waste in the locker room. Already for 2015.

P.S. Did anyone see the Refs announce the Patriots eligible players and ineligible players twice live on TV and gave the Seahawks to adjust? That was the same ref in the Pats/Ravens game. Go figure.

Simmer down yo!

[PurpleCorsair]

Actually, it was Carrol's decision to pass there instead of run. He wanted to pass on second down, and then run on third and fourth if needed. Dumb strategy.

I was unaware of that, but I have to believe that the decision to throw a slant rather than say a bootleg pass was Bevell's. 

[The Raven]

I was unaware of that, but I have to believe that the decision to throw a slant rather than say a bootleg pass was Bevell's. 

 

I wouldn't have done a boot, actually. Patriots had a stacked box and Russell may have been sacked. Pats had relative success against their boots, too, if I remember right. I don't disagree with the slant call. Just think it was bad route and a bad throw. Honestly, if Russell waits one more second for the receiver to actually get up to speed, the slant might have been there. If you watch the play again, the receiver had barely finished his break when the ball was out. It just wasn't there. Slants tend to be fairly effective against goal line formations.

 

Regardless, they still should've ran it.