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Lets be honest, McGahee isnt plaing like "crap" hes averaging 4.0ypc with 7 touchdowns on limited carries, yes hes been injured and had a slow start but he is our all-purpose big play back, at his best he's a pro-bowler and we NEED him for this stretch regardless of how solid McClain is or how explosive Rice is.

Im not defending him but I think much of it has been blown out of proportion.
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[quote name='BloodRaven' post='116002' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:44 PM']Lets be honest, McGahee isnt plaing like "crap" hes averaging 4.0ypc with 7 touchdowns on limited carries, yes hes been injured and had a slow start but he is our all-purpose big play back, at his best he's a pro-bowler and we NEED him for this stretch regardless of how solid McClain is or how explosive Rice is.

Im not defending him but I think much of it has been blown out of proportion.[/quote]
3.9, but who's counting .1 YPC...
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[quote name='raven43' post='115953' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:00 PM']how has he become a liability? I don't think you get what I'm saying here. Sure, he was in a slump, but [b]right now[/b] I'm almost 99% sure you would hate to lose him after his last two performances.

And sure you critizised Ed reed, but I doubt you ever said he should lose his job like you have for Mcgahee. And if you did, well then... You and others on this thread have made assumptions about him and insulted him so much on this thread it's not even funny, and I doubt I will ever hear this kind of talk about Reed if he has and off year.

He has [b]not[/b] become a liability. Like I've said numerous times, he was in a slump but he is definetely more of an asset than a liability as of now.

Yes I know what our situation would be had we beat Pitt, but, like I said before, there is no way you can completely blame that loss on him. If you can, than you don't understand football. That saying "win as a team, lose as a team" actually has some meaning behind it. [b]We're in the playoffs, so instead of fuming over what could have been you should be happy we're in the playoffs. Otherwise it looks like you don't think we'd be able to win without homefield advantage [/b]:huh:

Last but not least Mcgahee is not playing like crap as of now, and there was not one loss that we had that he cost us the game. In fact, like I said before, if not for him in that Dallas game, we wouldn't be in the playoffs. Plus he had a solid performance last week. His play is not hurting the team, nor are his words. He's been pretty consistant as of late as well. So he's putting up so...........[/quote]

I'll take it you have nothing else constructive to offer, since your doing nothing but repeating yourself and asking me the same questions I've already answered. But I do have two comments about this post as a whole, not neccessarily the content, and then I am done with this.

1) Stop trying to put words in my mouth. Never did I say this team couldnt win on the road. If you must know, I'd rather they have atleast one home game because I would actually like to attend a playoff game, it has nothing to do with whether they could win or not. I'd rather watch the game in our stadium rather then on TV. Plain and simple. And if you dont think home field advantage offers some advantage, you probably havent been watching this season very closely. Never have I said anything about Ed Reed or McGahee, for that matter losing their jobs. Even though McGahee has already played his way out of his.

Bottomline, stop making up b.s. to try to prove a point. If I dont actually say it, I'd appreciate it if you didnt try to attribute your manufactured statements to me. What I say is what I mean and if I mean it, I will say it. I dont need any help from you to form or state MY opinion. I get along just fine with out your help in that department.

2) You have losers mentality. "just be glad we made the playoffs". To me statements like that are settling for less. If thats your progative, so be it but thats not how I think. I want this team to have every advantage and win every thing that they can. And I am not settling for anything less then the best.
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[quote name='RavensIQ' post='115791' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:16 PM']If i ask you a question and you answer it, did you bring up the subject?

So what if McGahee said something crazy like he hated Baltimore? Playoffs are less than 4 days away so why are we even talking about any form of negativity? McGahee could slap my sister in the face and I still wouldn't let that take away my playoff buzz.

You guys make Cleveland fans look decent. T-sizzle had an off year last year don't hear anybody hating on him now...and he held out of camp!

[i]Playoffs[/i]!?!? Why talk about the [i]Playoffs[/i]?!?[/quote]


If your definition of an off year is having 80 total tackles, 52 of them solo along with 5 sacks along with going to the Pro Bowl, then maybe you should rethink your statement. Plus, even if you do count it as an 'off year', you never heard Sizzle making these type of comments. The COMMENTS are why we're talking about this, not his play.
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[quote name='smashmouth' post='115838' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:54 PM']I never questioned you fanhood, I wouldent do that to a good member of the board as yourself. I was just wandoring how most can say Suggs was taking out of context but McGahee wasnt. I just dont understand.
I Know Mcgahee hasnt played to par and Im glad Mcclain and Rice are in there as well as McGahee, but Im not going to diss Him untill he accually comes out with a interview on which He's being selfesh and no one can debate it, Just like a ref making a call, was He in for a touchdown or not. If Its debatable then the call should stand, Ill give McGahee the same honor.[/quote]

Oh, I know you didnt. Its just what you quoted me on was in response to this :

[quote name='Purple Punishment' post='115698' date='Jan 1 2009, 10:23 AM']Man, I cannot believe these folks on here. If you are saying get rid of this man, You are not a true Ravens fan. Last season everyone loved this man when he was the ONLY offensive spark we had. Now the man gets injured and has a bad season, you want to get rid of your player? Where the hell is the support here? I hope he gets so many carries and runs up those playoff stats so everyone complaining can just shut up. If this man was so much of a quitter, Why would he carry the ball with blood in his eye. If you are stupid you wouldnt understand. BECAUSE he wants to be out there doing all he can to help us win. Why didnt he quit after so many injuries? Cause he wants to help in any way he can on the field? He blames everyone but himself? Untrue people, just a few weeks ago he blamed HIMSELF for his bad play. You bashers only see and hear what you want to hear. I know the Chargers fans didnt bash LT so support the guy that carried the Ravens on his back last year![/quote]

As for Suggs, I am not one that defended him. I do think the bounty talk was a joke but I still believe he was an idiot for saying it. And I do not for a second believe his comments about the QB situation was taken out of context.
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[quote name='RavensFanMvp' post='115978' date='Jan 1 2009, 06:46 PM']Heap didn't have his starting job taken away from him like Willis has now have he? I'm not defending McGahee. In fact, I think it's the right decision to start McClain over Willis right now, but to trash the guy after he's been gutting out the season with multiple injuries isn't fair. Give the guy a break, and hope that he continue his recent strong play in the playoffs.[/quote]

I supported Willis from day one... and I let go all of the junk. What irks me is that his teammates, his coaches and his fans all did this... and he still blamed his year on the coaches and did the 'me, me, me' thing. That's what is all screwed up about his perspective.

He was forgiven for being a non-factor on plays he was given... and he still came out and dumped his lack of production in the lap of the coaches in a messed up way. That's the problem.
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115788' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:10 PM']Ironic, because McGahee seemed more interested in talking about himself than the excitement of his first playoff game of his career.

So, to each his own.

And just to clarify: there've only been two or three threads on the first page of this section about McGahee. There's maybe 10-15 threads about the playoffs. So, having this debate doesn't mean none of us are any less excited for the playoffs than everyone else who's talking about that instead.[/quote]

Quoted for truth... but don't expect RavensIQ to see anything but his special version of the truth. The truth is, McGahee dropped his season's lack of production in the coaching staff's collective lap. Explain that one Ravens"IQ", and explain it in a manner that is thorough and truthful - then maybe you'll have produced something in this thread. I don't wish ill on McGahee... in fact I've said a few times publicly that if he's a Raven he deserves fan support. It's a freakin' shame he doesn't feel that same way toward his coaches. A blooody shame he's showing up like Buffalo.

By the way, what kind of knob is worried about what fans of other teams perceive him? :rolleyes:
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[quote name='Marc2k6' post='115990' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:26 PM']You can look at all the game tape and pick a part everyone's game and say he should do this or that better. You can also read and listen to all the interview, then attempt to figure out if the player is a team player, selfish player or just a player who does not interview well all you want. But the most important thing is that the Raven's are winning and the Raven's are in the playoffs. Playoffs time is when it really counts to have big games and fan support, so stop all of the DAMN crying and cheer for your team! :o :angry: :o[/quote]

Amen...
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I have to admit that the level of knit-picking we are able to achieve on this forum is really astounding. Not quite sure how that article was "damning," but.... whatever.
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[quote name='Marc2k6' post='115990' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:26 PM']You can look at all the game tape and pick a part everyone's game and say he should do this or that better. You can also read and listen to all the interview, then attempt to figure out if the player is a team player, selfish player or just a player who does not interview well all you want. But the most important thing is that the Raven's are winning and the Raven's are in the playoffs. Playoffs time is when it really counts to have big games and fan support, so stop all of the DAMN crying and cheer for your team! :o :angry: :o[/quote]
I co-sign that.
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Honestly, who cares? He can't be cut, the cap hit would be atrocious and handicap this team A LOT, so no use worrying about it now, especially with Miami coming up! No need to bring this up in the first place because it's irrelevant right now...
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[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115329' date='Dec 31 2008, 03:58 PM']In an article in the Baltimore Sun, Willis McGahee was given a chance to clarify his recent controversial comments made on a radio show. And surprisingly (or not), his comments seemed to reiterate the "me-first" mentality that a lot of us have gleaned from his previous statements:


Article: [url="http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/football/bal-mcgahee1231,0,1589005.story"]Ravens' McGahee: I'm just playing my role -- BaltimoreSun.com[/url]

I know it seems a bit redundant to have a second topic on McGahee's comments about his off year, but I felt that this provides more damning evidence as to the type of player that McGahee may really be. Though I can't deny that it's hypocritical to cheer for him when he makes a play, that's the nature of fandom; we love them when they're doing well, but we hate them when they're in a slump.

However, I think this goes beyond cheering for a player. I think this goes to show that maybe McGahee might not fit the culture of team unity that Coach Harbaugh has created this season. It's sad that he wouldn't give a definitive answer as to whether winning a Super Bowl would change everything, and it's even sadder that he'd rather be a superstar and have his 1,000 yards rushing, than be a part of something greater.

Sounds pretty selfish to me... <_<[/quote]

living in florida i knew all about mcgahee.. just because he's from um doesn't mean you need to grab him. you guys are the ravens, not the hurricanes.. lol.. anyways, he isn't a team player..
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[quote name='Zhamtao' post='115556' date='Dec 31 2008, 09:49 PM']So you're saying they play for 50 years from now and that T.O., and players like him, will be remembered for stats?[/quote]

thats exactly what im saying
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[quote name='Raven-D' post='116143' date='Jan 2 2009, 04:41 AM']I have to admit that the level of knit-picking we are able to achieve on this forum is really astounding. Not quite sure how that article was "damning," but.... whatever.[/quote]

I'm with you man.
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[quote name='rlh445' post='116022' date='Jan 1 2009, 09:00 PM']If your definition of an off year is having 80 total tackles, 52 of them solo along with 5 sacks along with going to the Pro Bowl, then maybe you should rethink your statement. Plus, even if you do count it as an 'off year', you never heard Sizzle making these type of comments. The COMMENTS are why we're talking about this, not his play.[/quote]
Suggs is a pass rsuhing OLB / DE, Yes 5 sacks SUCKS, PERIOD.
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[quote name='Raven-D' post='116143' date='Jan 1 2009, 11:41 PM']I have to admit that the level of knit-picking we are able to achieve on this forum is really astounding. Not quite sure how that article was "damning," but.... whatever.[/quote]


That is true. The bad thing is we are winning right now just imagine if we were losing, this would be Knit-Pick Central! :huh: Sometimes u would think we lost the game on here.
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[quote name='Marc2k6' post='116375' date='Jan 2 2009, 08:46 AM']That is true. The bad thing is we are winning right now just imagine if we were losing, this would be Knit-Pick Central! :huh: Sometimes u would think we lost the game on here.[/quote]Sometimes you would think that pointing out areas in which a team is deficient is somehow being disloyal as a fan. (As opposed to wanting one's team to not only win, but also improve as well.)
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Mcgahee is upset that "his season is over" HIS season is over.....

Great players seasons dont even matter UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS

These next 4 games are 10 times more important than the 16 games this season, or any season mcgahee has ever been apart off. He needs to realize this or this team will not make it.

I like mcgahee for what he is, 1 of 3 backs in our backfield. We need mcgahee in the playoffs to mix things up with mcclain. But mcgahee is not going to be a 1000 yard rusher. Thats not his role in our system, and if he thinks he is gonna get 1000 yards next year then he is dead wrong. He needs to be able to get 600-700 yards and be happy with that.
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[quote name='neepo13' post='115851' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:19 PM']wl.





because I am a grown women and I can do what I please, Thats how I feel about it and if you dont like it, tough.[/quote]

strange, i could've sworn grown women still couldnt do what they please
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[quote name='BloodRaven' post='116307' date='Jan 2 2009, 01:13 AM']Dont worry, I don't think we'll be drafting anyone out of the U for a few years.[/quote]

ignorant statement, we will continue to draft from where it will benefit us most, think Ozzie knows more about that than you ;)
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[quote name='merb' post='116416' date='Jan 2 2009, 11:34 AM']Mcgahee is upset that "his season is over" HIS season is over.....

Great players seasons dont even matter UNTIL THE PLAYOFFS

These next 4 games are 10 times more important than the 16 games this season, or any season mcgahee has ever been apart off. He needs to realize this or this team will not make it.

I like mcgahee for what he is, 1 of 3 backs in our backfield. We need mcgahee in the playoffs to mix things up with mcclain. But mcgahee is not going to be a 1000 yard rusher. Thats not his role in our system, and if [b]he thinks he is gonna get 1000 yards next year then he is dead wrong. He needs to be able to get 600-700 yards and be happy with that.[/b][/quote]

see this is the ravens fan **** i don't understand at all, its like you WANT him to have a 'mediocre' showing. I guess you're forgetting we have 2000~ rushing yards between our 3 backs, 1 of whom nearly has 1000 himself anyways.
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[quote name='iHate' post='116448' date='Jan 2 2009, 12:21 PM']ignorant statement, we will continue to draft from where it will benefit us most, think Ozzie knows more about that than you ;)[/quote]

Lol, it wasnt a statement it was a lighthearted joke aimed at the MIA fans.
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[quote name='BloodRaven' post='116460' date='Jan 2 2009, 12:29 PM']Lol, it wasnt a statement it was a lighthearted joke aimed at the MIA fans.[/quote]

then i revoke my comment, my bad. just getting tough to tell who's legitimately as air-headed as they come off :lol:
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He is obviously frustrated. As a ravens fan you just got to have faith that one of your star players will show up when it counts. If anything this is his chance to redeem himself. The playoffs and how Willis goes about himself in the offseason will determine his future but for now, he's staying put
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[quote name='neepo13' post='116021' date='Jan 1 2009, 08:45 PM']I'll take it you have nothing else constructive to offer, since your doing nothing but repeating yourself and asking me the same questions I've already answered. But I do have two comments about this post as a whole, not neccessarily the content, and then I am done with this.

1) Stop trying to put words in my mouth. Never did I say this team couldnt win on the road. If you must know, I'd rather they have atleast one home game because I would actually like to attend a playoff game, it has nothing to do with whether they could win or not. I'd rather watch the game in our stadium rather then on TV. Plain and simple. And if you dont think home field advantage offers some advantage, you probably havent been watching this season very closely. Never have I said anything about Ed Reed or McGahee, for that matter losing their jobs. Even though McGahee has already played his way out of his.[/quote] :lol: :lol: are you kiddin me? So you're telling me that the only reason you're hatin on Mcgahee is because you think if he had made that block you'd be able to go to a game?? Yeah, that's the b.s. :lol: . And that comment on Ed Reed, that's [b]what I said[/b]. I said I bet you would never talk about Ed Reed Losing his job, appaerently all you felt like talking about when it comes to him is his ball handling skills, as if that was an actual issue

[quote name='neepo13' post='116021' date='Jan 1 2009, 08:45 PM']Bottomline, stop making up b.s. to try to prove a point. If I dont actually say it, I'd appreciate it if you didnt try to attribute your manufactured statements to me. What I say is what I mean and if I mean it, I will say it. I dont need any help from you to form or state MY opinion. I get along just fine with out your help in that department.[/quote] agian, what are you talkin about? I didn't put any words in your mouth at all, show me a quote where I did, please...
[quote name='neepo13' post='116021' date='Jan 1 2009, 08:45 PM']2) You have losers mentality. "just be glad we made the playoffs". To me statements like that are settling for less. If thats your progative, so be it but thats not how I think. I want this team to have every advantage and win every thing that they can. And I am not settling for anything less then the best.[/quote]
I have the loser's mentality????? I'm happy we're in the playoffs and looking forward to the games coming up, and all you can do is cry about how we should have the number two seed. That sounds like a loser's mentality. It seems like you don't think we can win on the road--oh wait, you're just upset cuz you can't go to a game :lol: :lol: :lol: ok...... :lol:
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NEWS FLASH**********

McGahee is going to have a decent game as he will have all his cousins, illegitimate children, aunts, uncles, pastors, barber, defense attorney, academic advisiors, probation officers, campus police officers from the U, boosters, car dealers, bookies, some ex-Bills groupies, and a pediatrician that provided him antibiotics for all of his strange ills in college after a hard weekend of partying.,(use your imagination) that he will want to impress....

Hopefully, he will be focused on adding value to the very team that he seems to be disengaging himself from.........

$8.0 million or not....I would dump his AS$....the team would be better in the end.

How come the guy (27 years old) in the league for his 7th season, can't even line up correctly in practice two days before a game? In practice and in film sessions he makes comments that not even rookies make.....the guy is not engaged and in-tune with what is going on. It is very evident from an insider's perspective....(other Raven's players)

I have some good sources with the above information.....that have filled me in recently on some of the errors and miscues he still makes......blitz pick up, red zone work, and some unbalanced formations.....even this week!

He's got the ability....but it also takes a brain.....would be great on the Wizard of OZ............"if I only had a brain"

Good game or bad game....I don't like what he stands for...scraping buy, taking the easy way out and blaming others for your ill wills. May he rest in piece

Cure this cancer and cut him.
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