Mcgahee Clarifies Radio Comments

[bootyjam23]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115794' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:16 PM']Really? There was a stretch between the Giants game up until Dallas where every time McGahee touched the ball he got stopped two yards behind the line of scrimmage, which set us back. You cant be in 3rd and long with a rookie QB, and that is just what happened with McGahee. Or he'd put the ball on the ground or wiff on a block in pass protection. As for him not losing us any games, I beg to differ. He's not the sole reason we lost but he certainly hasnt helped. And if I am not mistaken, it was McGahee that gave up the sack that Flacco fumbled on vs Pitt that took us out of field goal range.[/quote]
Well, everyone gets stopped for losses. Even the monster McClain has been dropped behind the LOS a fair few times, and he was a little timid hitting the hole at times earlier in the season, but who wouldn't be, coming off a serious injury.
Also, he missed a block. Yeah. Against LaMarr Woodley. He's a beast, Tackles have difficulty holding on to him. And the defense gave up that game. 92 yards in 3 minutes is less excusable than a running back missing a block on a premier pass rusher.

[raven43]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115794' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:16 PM']Really? There was a stretch between the Giants game up until Dallas where every time McGahee touched the ball he got stopped two yards behind the line of scrimmage, which set us back. You cant be in 3rd and long with a rookie QB, and that is just what happened with McGahee. Or he'd put the ball on the ground or wiff on a block in pass protection. As for him not losing us any games, I beg to differ. He's not the sole reason we lost but he certainly hasnt helped. And if I am not mistaken, it was McGahee that gave up the sack that Flacco fumbled on vs Pitt that took us out of field goal range.[/quote]
all thats true, but you have to admit he's been more of an asset than a liability to us as of late. His last couple of games have been pretty good for a guy who wasn't starting and yet people still hate the guy

[smashmouth]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115794' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:16 PM']Really? There was a stretch between the Giants game up until Dallas where every time McGahee touched the ball he got stopped two yards behind the line of scrimmage, which set us back. You cant be in 3rd and long with a rookie QB, and that is just what happened with McGahee. Or he'd put the ball on the ground or wiff on a block in pass protection. As for him not losing us any games, I beg to differ. He's not the sole reason we lost but he certainly hasnt helped. And if I am not mistaken, it was McGahee that gave up the sack that Flacco fumbled on vs Pitt that took us out of field goal range.[/quote]
I agree with you that He hasnt been playing good, even He has said it, and agree'd with the coach for going with the hot hand. I just think he was taking out of context, and He was saying He was trying to get better Himself for the Team. A team is solo guys doing solo thing together for one common goal. so to do things for the team He has to do them Himself, in whatever role that might be.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='Betweenthetackles' post='115646' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:10 AM']Just want to see him honor and respect his teammates and coaches....hard work and dedication would be a good place to start.

How do you think the Ravens strength coach feels after he inadvertantly got blamed for Phyllis coming back to camp out of shape.

You won't gain weight if you lift weights (another myth by the uneducated idiot Phyllis)...not if you are doing 12-15 reps (or more) with multiple sets.. Possibly get some plyometrics and explosive speed/power work and he'd come in the same weight, stronger, faster, and with more stamina.
The reason he got hurt and is out of breath is that he is lazy and not motivated.....a real loser for a professional if you ask me.
I am surprised Lorenzo Neal hasn't kicked his as$ up and down yet....wish he would.

This guy is a manipulative SOB....as soon as he senses folks are turning on him....he buys himself more time by saying the right thing.

Classic "just do enough to get by" kinda guy.

Cure the cancer and cut him...[/quote]

How do you know so much about willis and his work ethic? How do you know what he lifted in the offseason? This is pure speculation and i don't buy it at all.

[RavensIQ]

You know what it is!! Anita Marks!! She pissed everybody off talking about McGahee these last couple of weeks. God she was so annoying. Dam you Anita Marks!!

Sexy, but from time to time...annoying as hell! I blame her. Can we end this thread, we know who to blame now.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='115804' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:23 PM']You know what it is!! Anita Marks!! She pissed everybody off talking about McGahee these last couple of weeks. God she was so annoying. Dam you Anita Marks!!

Sexy, but from time to time...annoying as hell! I blame her. Can we end this thread, we know who to blame now.[/quote]
ANITA it is, DAMN YOU!!!

[heapitup247]

[quote name='ravensfan1996' post='115795' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:18 PM']Sorry, its not just MY interpretation...seems to be 80% agree he is talking me me me and 20% somehow think he being a team player...even the Sun article states: "Given chance to explain radio show comments, running back emphasizes me, me, me"...did you even click on the article or listen to the interview??? Some people just read a post and put in their thoughts without actually reading or listening to the facts....its coming staight from Willis, no interpretation needed.

Im not saying get rid of him, he can be a good back as seen the past 2 weeks, he just needs an attitude adjustment. He comes off in his actions and comments. Not to mention is off field problems that also show a "not me" mentality

In case you didnt know, he use to play for the Bills, check out this article of how much he is a "team Player"

[url="http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/bills/2006-05-30-mcgahee-absence_x.htm"]http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nf...e-absence_x.htm[/url]

"McGahee kept his streak alive of being the only veteran who has yet to make at least one spring practice where players are learning the team's new offense"

Its just a continuing theme....not a one time, misinterpretation.[/quote]
I dont care what he did for the Bills. He could've punched Dick Jauron in the face and i wouldnt care.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='raven43' post='115800' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:21 PM']all thats true, but you have to admit he's been more of an asset than a liability to us as of late. His last couple of games have been pretty good for a guy who wasn't starting and yet people still hate the guy [/quote]
True. But speaking for myself personally, I wouldn't say I hate the guy; I'm just disappointed that he wouldn't deflect attention from himself to begin with, and I'm frustrated by how he has furthered this situation the way he has.

With that said, yes, I hope he has a great game Sunday; as a Ravens fan, I would always hope for all of our players to do well. And I hope that he can rise above this and return to form. But at the same time, as ravensfan1996 pointed out, I would also like to see an attitude adjustment. Simple as that.

[raven43]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='115804' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:23 PM']You know what it is!! Anita Marks!! She pissed everybody off talking about McGahee these last couple of weeks. God she was so annoying. Dam you Anita Marks!!

Sexy, but from time to time...annoying as hell! I blame her. Can we end this thread, we know who to blame now.[/quote]
lol.....

but seriously, this is all speculation. I say we end this thread, as well. It's not helping anybody to bash a guy who's had a tough year, went through a slump, got hated on by everybody, worked hard to come back, finished strong, and now still has everybody ripping his head off. And why? because he's disapionted that he didn't reach 1000 yards? He dissapointed that he couldn't help this team by rushing for 1000 yards, what a terrible soul.

[heapitup247]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115788' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:10 PM']Ironic, because McGahee seemed more interested in talking about himself than the excitement of his first playoff game of his career.[/quote]

Was he? Or was he asked about this subject rather than the playoffs in hopes of sparking a controversy. I dont know how much the interviewer really wanted to talk about something bland like winning or conforming to the teams attitude.

[neepo13]

[quote name='bootyjam23' post='115799' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:20 PM']Well, everyone gets stopped for losses. Even the monster McClain has been dropped behind the LOS a fair few times, and he was a little timid hitting the hole at times earlier in the season, but who wouldn't be, coming off a serious injury.
Also, he missed a block. Yeah. [b]Against LaMarr Woodley.[/b] He's a beast, Tackles have difficulty holding on to him. And the defense gave up that game. 92 yards in 3 minutes is less excusable than a running back missing a block on a premier pass rusher.[/quote]

It was Timmons that he missed the block on. And he didnt just miss it, he wiffed on it completely. He barely touched him. Its not like Pitt sent two or three guys from that side and McGahee had to pick one to block. One guy came, that was his guy, he should have atleast been able to jump in his way and slow him down. There is no excuse for that from a veteran running back. Our D gave up a long drive, I am not excusing that but that one play changed the entire game. Pitt got the momentum back and who knows what would have happened if McGahee even managed to slow Timmons down. Hell maybe we get the first down. Maybe we score a TD, maybe Flacco turns it over anyway but we'll never know because McGahee blew it from the begining.

[bootyjam23]

[quote name='raven43' post='115811' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:29 PM']disapionted that he didn't reach 1000 yards? He dissapointed that he couldn't help this team by rushing for 1000 yards, what a terrible soul. [/quote]
Lol, That's a good point actually. I remember before that jags game everyone was saying that we should let get Derrick get to 1000 yards on the season. I understand Mase is a great guys to the fans and gives the team everything, but why is it OK to suggest that we put in an injured wideout so that he can get to 1k, but not ok that our running back is dissapointed at not reaching that milestone?

[macbrak]

Because Mason has been clutch in almost every game not a handful.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115813' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:30 PM']It was Timmons that he missed the block on. And he didnt just miss it, he wiffed on it completely. He barely touched him. Its not like Pitt sent two or three guys from that side and McGahee had to pick one to block. One guy came, that was his guy, he should have atleast been able to jump in his way and slow him down. There is no excuse for that from a veteran running back. Our D gave up a long drive, I am not excusing that but that one play changed the entire game. Pitt got the momentum back and who knows what would have happened if McGahee even managed to slow Timmons down. Hell maybe we get the first down. Maybe we score a TD, maybe Flacco turns it over anyway but we'll never know because McGahee blew it from the begining.[/quote]

But because He missed a block a good reason to say He has been horrable, and is more of a liablity? I mean we could go all day on which player did this, and we lost that game.. but that is also taking away from the TEAM concept, We win as a team and lose as a team. McGahee had a bunch of bad games this year, but IMO deserves the benifet of the doubt to regain His status for the team.

[raven43]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115813' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:30 PM']It was Timmons that he missed the block on. And he didnt just miss it, he wiffed on it completely. He barely touched him. Its not like Pitt sent two or three guys from that side and McGahee had to pick one to block. One guy came, that was his guy, he should have atleast been able to jump in his way and slow him down. There is no excuse for that from a veteran running back. Our D gave up a long drive, I am not excusing that but that one play changed the entire game. Pitt got the momentum back and who knows what would have happened if McGahee even managed to slow Timmons down. Hell maybe we get the first down. Maybe we score a TD, maybe Flacco turns it over anyway but we'll never know because McGahee blew it from the begining.[/quote]
judging by your inability to forgive and forget that game (even though it didn't ruin our season) and your sig, which displays Mcgahee's replacement, I'd say your opinion on Mcgahee is set in stone?

[neepo13]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='115802' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:22 PM']I agree with you that He hasnt been playing good, even He has said it, and agree'd with the coach for going with the hot hand. I just think he was taking out of context, and He was saying He was trying to get better Himself for the Team. A team is solo guys doing solo thing together for one common goal. so to do things for the team He has to do them Himself, in whatever role that might be.[/quote]

We will agree to disagree on that. I honestly dont believe he was taken out of context, I believe he said exactly what he meant and I am also angry that he would even go there. McGahee isnt the only guy that has struggled this year. Heap has struggled to. He has as much to gripe about if not more then McGahee but he's kept his mouth shut. Thats what professional team players do. I am sure Heap gets asked all the time about his recieving numbers being down but I bet we wont find a quote of him saying "I wont get 70 catchs this year, so I am just going to go play my role and do me" and you wont here him blaming the coaching staff for making him work harder and do things differently. Thats the kind of guy Heap is and thats not the kind of guy McGahee is.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='bootyjam23' post='115815' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:32 PM']Lol, That's a good point actually. I remember before that jags game everyone was saying that we should let get Derrick get to 1000 yards on the season. I understand Mase is a great guys to the fans and gives the team everything, but why is it OK to suggest that we put in an injured wideout so that he can get to 1k, but not ok that our running back is dissapointed at not reaching that milestone?[/quote]
To be fair, there was the school of thought that Mason needed to play because of how important the stakes were, in spite of his injury. I personally was in favor of resting him for that game, but I can't complain with the results either way.

As for Mason getting his 1,000 yards, that's a different story because Mason hadn't stated a blatantly [i]public[/i] desire to get that yardage. Keyphrase being "public."

However, he [i]was[/i] asked about what the accomplishment would mean. But on that same token, he immediately brought it back to the team in his response. And that's the key -- bringing it back to the team. That's why no one questions or criticizes Derrick Mason for his individual milestones.

[bootyjam23]

[quote name='macbrak' post='115817' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:33 PM']Because Mason has been clutch in almost every game not a handful.[/quote]
True, I mean i'm not suggesting that McGahee deserved 1k more than Derrick, or that he even deserved it at all, but he wanted to get to 1k, just like the fans wanted D mase to get there. I don't see why people are making a big deal about that.

[raven43]

[quote name='macbrak' post='115817' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:33 PM']Because Mason has been clutch in almost every game not a handful.[/quote]
OK, so hypothetically, if Mcgahee had rushed for like 400 yards in the finale and was ,like, 4 yards away from breaking a thousand, but all we had to do was neel for the win--you're saying you wouldn't let him get to 1000? becasue he had been a handful? But you would let derrick mason? So you would hold him just below 1000 out of spite?

[smashmouth]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115823' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:36 PM']We will agree to disagree on that. I honestly dont believe he was taken out of context, I believe he said exactly what he meant and I am also angry that he would even go there. McGahee isnt the only guy that has struggled this year. Heap has struggled to. He has as much to gripe about if not more then McGahee but he's kept his mouth shut. Thats what professional team players do. I am sure Heap gets asked all the time about his recieving numbers being down but I bet we wont find a quote of him saying "I wont get 70 catchs this year, so I am just going to go play my role and do me" and you wont here him blaming the coaching staff for making him work harder and do things differently. Thats the kind of guy Heap is and thats not the kind of guy McGahee is.[/quote]
He has said that.. diddnt sound as selfesh and McGahee and He defiently diddnt sound upset about it. But He has said His role in this offense Is to block more then He used too, and thats why His recieving numbers is down, like I said He is a good team player IMO, and McGahee maybe more selfesh. But Its no reason to get rid of Him, Now if He started acting anywhere near what T-O does I;ll be all for crucifeing Him.

[neepo13]

[quote name='raven43' post='115821' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:35 PM']judging by your inability to forgive and forget that game (even though it didn't ruin our season) and your sig, which displays Mcgahee's replacement, I'd say your opinion on Mcgahee is set in stone? [/quote]

LMAO. Whenever, you fail attack the other poster. I have Derrick Mason as my avater, I guess I hate all our wr's to. I guess I hate Ray Rice and Lorenzo Neal, since they are not in my sig. Heck I had Sam Koch before I guess I dont like Stover. Grow up. I am A RAVENS FAN. My number 1 concern is whats best for the Ravens and I dont have some top secret agenda to get McGahee out of here. My gripe with him has been his play on the field and his inability to keep the teams problems in house.

[bootyjam23]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115824' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:37 PM']However, he [i]was[/i] asked about what the accomplishment would mean. But on that same token, he immediately brought it back to the team in his response. And that's the key -- bringing it back to the team. That's why no one questions or criticizes Derrick Mason for his individual milestones.[/quote]

But, as it has already been aluded to, Willis isn't the quickest of mind, and he probably just took the question at face value, and not remembered that he has to speak of nothing but the team.

[neepo13]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='115827' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:39 PM']He has said that.. diddnt sound as selfesh and McGahee and He defiently diddnt sound upset about it. But He has said His role in this offense Is to block more then He used too, and thats why His recieving numbers is down, like I said He is a good team player IMO, and McGahee maybe more selfesh. But Its no reason to get rid of Him, Now if He started acting anywhere near what T-O does I;ll be all for crucifeing Him.[/quote]

One issue or another alone is no reason to get rid of him but the two together and his salary to production ratio offer a pretty good reason to. I am not suggesting we do that because I know the cap ramifications but if we did I wouldnt be mad about it and because I wouldnt be mad about it doesnt make me any less of fan, like someone said earlier.

[MKdave]

[quote name='bootyjam23' post='115815' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:32 PM']Lol, That's a good point actually. I remember before that jags game everyone was saying that we should let get Derrick get to 1000 yards on the season. I understand Mase is a great guys to the fans and gives the team everything, but why is it OK to suggest that we put in an injured wideout so that he can get to 1k, but not ok that our running back is dissapointed at not reaching that milestone?[/quote]

I can kind of see your point, but I think people wanted Derrick to get there because he had a streak of seven 1 thousand yard seasons, it wasn't just they wanted him to get there.

[MKdave]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115823' date='Jan 1 2009, 07:36 PM']We will agree to disagree on that. I honestly dont believe he was taken out of context, I believe he said exactly what he meant and I am also angry that he would even go there. McGahee isnt the only guy that has struggled this year. Heap has struggled to. He has as much to gripe about if not more then McGahee but he's kept his mouth shut. Thats what professional team players do. I am sure Heap gets asked all the time about his recieving numbers being down but I bet we wont find a quote of him saying "I wont get 70 catchs this year, so I am just going to go play my role and do me" and you wont here him blaming the coaching staff for making him work harder and do things differently. Thats the kind of guy Heap is and thats not the kind of guy McGahee is.[/quote]

But you have to remember that -and this is not an excuse for McGahee, just something to consider- Willis has never not been the entire offense for him team. Buffalo's passing attack was one of the few worse than ours pre-Joe Flacco. So obviously McGahee is going to feel like he needs to perform, and he understands that he hasn't.
It's got to be hard when the only time your team has enjoyed success is when you have had you touches diminished. You must be able to understand his frustration.

[raven43]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115828' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:39 PM']LMAO. Whenever, you fail attack the other poster. [b]I have Derrick Mason as my avater, I guess I hate all our wr's to.[/b] I guess I hate Ray Rice and Lorenzo Neal, since they are not in my sig. Grow up. I am A RAVENS FAN. My number 1 concern is whats best for the Ravens and[b] I dont have some top secret agenda to get McGahee out of here. My gripe with him has been his play on the field [/b]and his inability to keep the teams problems in house.[/quote]
well if you went on and on and on and on about how mark clayton was a bust and how we should cut him, then yes. And I'm not sure, but I think you were during the offseason.
It's like saying, "screw you, I don't like you, I like [i]this[/i] guy. Now let me make sure everyone knows it"

You say you're #1 concern is the team and the team winning. Well, OK, how is Willis hurting the team?? Did he break flacco's leg? Does Ed Reed's shoulder ache everytime Willis talks? No, don't think so...

His comments may get some people on this thread riled up, but I doubt that it has had the same effect on his teammates, considering that they are level headed individuals.

If you don't hate Willis than stop bringing up that game agianst Pitt. It didn't ruin our season and it's not even what this thread is about. Sure his play had been down at one point but he did not once actually cost us a game. It's pretty hard for one player to do that. You lose and win as a team. In fact, had it not been for his 77 yarder against Dallas, we might not be in the playoffs. So obvioulsy, his play didn't hinder us that much. You give me and example how his [b]words[/b] have hurt our teams performance.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115832' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:45 PM']One issue or another alone is no reason to get rid of him but the two together and his salary to production ratio offer a pretty good reason to. I am not suggesting we do that because I know the cap ramifications but if we did I wouldnt be mad about it and because I wouldnt be mad about it doesnt make me any less of fan, like someone said earlier.[/quote]
I never questioned you fanhood, I wouldent do that to a good member of the board as yourself. I was just wandoring how most can say Suggs was taking out of context but McGahee wasnt. I just dont understand.
I Know Mcgahee hasnt played to par and Im glad Mcclain and Rice are in there as well as McGahee, but Im not going to diss Him untill he accually comes out with a interview on which He's being selfesh and no one can debate it, Just like a ref making a call, was He in for a touchdown or not. If Its debatable then the call should stand, Ill give McGahee the same honor.

[Chi_Town_Raven]

Do you want our team to turn into the Cowboys? I'm glad we didn't get TO because you people would be going crazy. Just drop it. It's just lime complaining when a player wants a bigger contract. They are playing for MONEY, not for the love of the game. Hate to break it to you, but it's the truth. Why should you care if we have a selfish player regardless? Hey, if he can perform well in the playoffs, I wouldn't care if he's a bigger jack ****** than TO

[raven43]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115828' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:39 PM']LMAO. Whenever, you fail attack the other poster.[/quote]
Sorry, but I really don't see how I've "failed" or where I attacked you.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='Chi_Town_Raven' post='115839' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:57 PM']Do you want our team to turn into the Cowboys? I'm glad we didn't get TO because you people would be going crazy. Just drop it. It's just lime complaining when a player wants a bigger contract. They are playing for MONEY, not for the love of the game. Hate to break it to you, but it's the truth. Why should you care if we have a selfish player regardless? Hey, if he can perform well in the playoffs, I wouldn't care if he's a bigger jack ****** than TO[/quote]
Some play for only money I'll give you that, but some also play for the love of the game, and they just so happen to get paid big bucks for doing it. They take risks, and have to live with people always yelling and screaming at them for autographs. They dont get left alone. but they also have to worry about there future, they retire young and have millions. They might spend all there money because they dont know, Its not hard to do. Then what do that do when there 35 and only played footbal for the past 15 years? Buisness is Buisness, but that dont mean some play for only money.