Mcgahee Clarifies Radio Comments

[T-Sizzle55]

[quote name='kash96ravenstotalfan' post='115417' date='Dec 31 2008, 06:02 PM']Actually, we are only talking about McGahee because of the stupid remarks he made on a radio show AND when the Baltimore Sun gave him a chance to clarify/retract his statements he didn;t do it. He is not a team player IMO he is all about himself. Their is no "I" in team and McGahee needs to start thinking about the team instead of his own personal stats. Read Ed Reeds comments when he was asked about being named NFL Defensive player of the month. His response was all about the team, he couldn;t care less about it personally. Harbs will get rid of McGahee, just not sure when. BTW I am a true Ravens fan and I will always stand-by the team; but, I will not support overpaid individual players that are not team players. Nough said - GO RAVENS[/quote]

McGahee expected big things this season especially when Cam Cameron came on board. McGahee must have been even more excited than the fans to get a guy that had the ability to turn him into the next LT. Cam talked about expanding McGahee's role in every aspect and being the key to our offense. Instead, Willis lost his starting position to a Rookie and a 2nd year Full Back. His comments about his 1,000 yards is in reference to that fact that a good starting HB will get over 1,000 yards rushing for the season. Willis wants to be the primary back, he doens't want to share carries because he feels he is versatile enough to carry a full workload all year long. When he talks about "my season" is over, he meant that he didn't meet the goals that he set for himself this year. The team was going to get their yards on the ground if McGahee was carrying the ball or not. "I'm not talking about the team's season," McGahee said. "I'm talking about my season as an individual." He doesn't feel it's right to come in after most of the hard work is over and take the carries away from a guy who has been doing it all along. They looked up to him for guidance and McGahee has been supportive of Le'Ron and Ray Rice and has been a big part of their accomplishments. I think if McGahee wasn't trying to do what's best for the team, he would have joined the other 20 people on IR instead of suffering through treatment and getting bashed in the media as a soft, selfish, washed up player. "If I wasn't a team player," he said. "I would have shut it down in the middle of the season from the knee surgery and all that." He's disappointed he's not the star of the show anymore and he is just dealing with his role as a back up, "When my number is called, I'm going to go ahead and play," McGahee said. "But if it's not, I can't do nothing about it." If he was the primary back, they would always be calling his number, but that part of the season, to prove yourself and earn carries, is over.

[kash96ravenstotalfan]

[quote name='T-Sizzle55' post='115524' date='Dec 31 2008, 08:51 PM']McGahee expected big things this season especially when Cam Cameron came on board. McGahee must have been even more excited than the fans to get a guy that had the ability to turn him into the next LT. Cam talked about expanding McGahee's role in every aspect and being the key to our offense. Instead, Willis lost his starting position to a Rookie and a 2nd year Full Back. His comments about his 1,000 yards is in reference to that fact that a good starting HB will get over 1,000 yards rushing for the season. Willis wants to be the primary back, he doens't want to share carries because he feels he is versatile enough to carry a full workload all year long. When he talks about "my season" is over, he meant that he didn't meet the goals that he set for himself this year. The team was going to get their yards on the ground if McGahee was carrying the ball or not. "I'm not talking about the team's season," McGahee said. "I'm talking about my season as an individual." He doesn't feel it's right to come in after most of the hard work is over and take the carries away from a guy who has been doing it all along. They looked up to him for guidance and McGahee has been supportive of Le'Ron and Ray Rice and has been a big part of their accomplishments. I think if McGahee wasn't trying to do what's best for the team, he would have joined the other 20 people on IR instead of suffering through treatment and getting bashed in the media as a soft, selfish, washed up player. "If I wasn't a team player," he said. "I would have shut it down in the middle of the season from the knee surgery and all that." He's disappointed he's not the star of the show anymore and he is just dealing with his role as a back up, "When my number is called, I'm going to go ahead and play," McGahee said. "But if it's not, I can't do nothing about it." If he was the primary back, they would always be calling his number, but that part of the season, to prove yourself and earn carries, is over.[/quote]
Again, not to be redundant - Who else cares about McGahees season besides McGahee? This season is not about him, it's about our team!

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115514' date='Dec 31 2008, 08:32 PM']Bottom line: maybe there's something to what Buffalo fans were saying about him...

The only other point I'll offer is, isn't it a bit convenient that he happens to say something inflammatory, while virtually everyone else (save for Terrell Suggs) has kept their mouth shut? Even though McGahee's original comments were during a scheduled radio show that was actually meant to be held earlier in the season, and even though it's his responsibility to answer questions asked by the media, couldn't he have simply taken the higher road and just said nothing?

If he's disappointed in himself, he can always do that when the season's over. Oh wait, excuse me, when the [i]team's[/i] season is over. But most players will tell you that, when the postseason is just starting, [i]now[/i] is not the time for reflection.

McGahee can mope and sulk about his individual season being disappointing all he wants. He can take responsibility all he wants -- but at least stop being so cryptic to where people can misinterpret the comments, as some of you have said I have.

Personally, I don't think there's any misinterpretation; he may be a competitor and a good teammate and the guys in the locker room may love him, but that doesn't mean he can't have a selfish attitude. Some may say this is an example of how badly he wants to be the best at what he does -- but thinking aloud about it will get him nowhere.

Frankly, I'd have preferred that he said nothing, and moved on. He should've let his play speak for itself, rather than try this half-cracked attempt at defusing a situation.

And though it's arguable that this is simply being blown out of proportion, no one can deny that things would've been better off if he would've done what everyone else has done and talked more about the team than himself.[/quote]

Or...Maybe its convenient enough for reporters to bring up controversial questions right b4 a big game to get suckers like you to buy into them so they can make $$? I mean really what has he said? Seriously??

You're the one who is labeling him selfish. You're the one giving him a negative persona. You're the one saying he has a me 1st attitude. And you're the one who can't prove any of this is true. Are you around him? Are you at the practices? Do you sit down and talk with him on a regular? Or do you believe everything that you read??? Are you the type that forms your opinions off of someone Else's?

It's easy to judge a man behind a computer but Willis McGahee doesn't deserve to be bad mouth by someone who wouldn't even dare think about saying it to his face. McGahee has not [i]once[/i] complained about his situation. McGahee has never criticized this team or the coaching staff. McGahee has owned up to his performances and has taken each media blow on the chin like a champ. All he has done is answer questions that were asked of him honestly and be truthful with how he's felt over the last few months.

Being upset with him for getting injured after coming off knee surgery and having a poor year rushing the ball is one thing. But hating on the man for words that were taken out of context is insensible. STOP HATING!!

It is not his fault that idiots misinterpret his words the wrong way. It's not his fault that people lack understanding to comprehend the points that he's trying to make. I seriously doubt anyone in that locker room is distracted by an article Mike Preston wrote about Willis McGahee's twisted quotes. Only people distracted are the fans. The people that are too blind to see relevancy shouldn't be allowed to speak on the subject.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='iHate' post='115342' date='Dec 31 2008, 04:18 PM']seriously you guys are ridiculous, get off his nuts. maybe some of you have never been on a team before judging from the time you spend hawking the forums, but all he was trying to express is being dissappointed in HIMSELF in his PERFORMANCE[/quote]

Actually, it seems to me you're the one on his nuts. Maybe you ought to change your forum name to "jockstrap".

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='Canes21' post='115350' date='Dec 31 2008, 04:32 PM']i dont really think its being selfish at all. how would you feel if your team won the superbowl and all you did was sit on the bench. sure your happy and all but you didnt even do anything so it doesnt feel as great. this just shows that hes a competitore. he wants to help this team by being on the field and making plays thats all.[/quote]

No, that's not all. Read the article and the interview transcript again, or get someone who isn't McGahee biased to translate it for you. Heap is taking the lack of involvement in stride. McGahee is crap a la Terrell Owens.

Just disgusting.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='iHate' post='115360' date='Dec 31 2008, 04:47 PM']as far as the hall of fame is concerned, in 50 years people are gonna remember the stats and plays, not what the players SPOKE[/quote]

So you're saying they play for 50 years from now and that T.O., and players like him, will be remembered for stats?

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='RavensIQ' post='115467' date='Dec 31 2008, 07:19 PM']Yeah bcuz the constant questions and harassment from the media, reporters, and fans shouldn't be enough of an excuse for Willis McGahee to actually [i]answer[/i] someone's question at a press conference...What was he thinking? He should have had nothing else on his mind but the playoffs. So what if reporters have their mics, cameras, and lights in his face 24/7 asking him how he feels about his season, his lack of production, and his future with Baltimore?? The nerve of this guy to actually answer someone's question!

He should be locked down at the facility. He shouldn't even be allowed to go out to restaurants bcuz how can he focus on the playoffs when waiters keep bugging him with stupid questions about what he wants to drink or whether or not he would like more bread with his salad...

Give the guy a break already. Maybe if we as fans didn't ride his back so much, and I don't know supported him more? (But why would we do that? We're just fans...) reporters wouldn't be on his back so much causing distractions and messing with his confidence. The more you hate on a person and focus on their flaws the more that person starts to become demoralized and less productive. How do you expect him to become better when everybody keeps telling him how much he sucks and that we don't want him here no more...

Only reason any of this is a distraction is bcuz we as fans allow it to be. If we ignored the BS stories and made up controversies (by desperate reporters *Mike Preston*) and focused more on supporting the Ravens, then none of these stories would have life to grow into something distractful and unneccesary for our team.

Seriously, give the guy a break already.[/quote]

He got breaks in Buffalo. He got a free pass after skipping preseason workouts. He got a year's worth of free passes for quiting on plays and on his teammates. Now he gets more free passes from you for focusing on himself over the team. How about you give us a break and take the McGahee love blinders off?

[ravens27]

I like Le'Ron better.

[BuckWilds]

[quote name='ravens27' post='115562' date='Dec 31 2008, 10:03 PM']I like Le'Ron better.[/quote]

I don't recall hearing Le'Ron McClain fixating on a lost season when he got 18 yards last year... But then again I don't think Le'Ron McClain will get traded in part due to attitude problems like McGahee did from the Bills.

Willis dumped his crap season on the coaches' lap... They made him workout too much. Did Walter Payton ever say that? Emmitt? Anyone respectable? The 5 fewer lbs, of course, caused him to show up at camp sucking wind and made him fall over this season due of stiff breezes. He has a couple of decent runs and he goes straight back to Buffalo smack talk. Le'Ron McClain is a better all-around player period.

[ravens27]

[quote name='Zhamtao' post='115565' date='Dec 31 2008, 10:12 PM']I don't recall hearing Le'Ron McClain fixating on a lost season when he got 18 yards last year... But then again I don't think Le'Ron McClain will get traded in part due to attitude problems like McGahee did from the Bills.

Willis dumped his crap season on the coaches' lap... They made him workout too much. Did Walter Payton ever say that? Emmitt? Anyone respectable? The 5 fewer lbs, of course, caused him to show up at camp sucking wind and made him fall over this season due of stiff breezes. He has a couple of decent runs and he goes straight back to Buffalo smack talk. Le'Ron McClain is a better all-around player period.[/quote]

I hear you man, Le'Ron is the man.

[Sizzle]

The man gave this team his all in a 5-11 season when he could have just gave up and said maybe next year. I am sure if he wasn't bothered with something(MAYBE An INJURY or .....) his performance would be much better, Some of you guys are just a bunch of A holes instead of celebrating and taking about how to beat the dolphins as a "TEAM" it looks to me some of you guys have forgot the whole idea of "TEAM". Willis has already given a statement about his situation and i would think YOU guys as "FANS" would understand and say "maybe next year" instead of acting like a sports writer and blowing things out of proportion. And let me tell you something i cant wait for you guys to climb up he's jock after the Miami game just like the cowboys game.

[wolfzie06]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='115622' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:30 AM']The man gave this team his all in a 5-11 season when he could have just gave up and said maybe next year. I am sure if he wasn't bothered with something(MAYBE An INJURY or .....) his performance would be much better, Some of you guys are just a bunch of A holes instead of celebrating and taking about how to beat the dolphins as a "TEAM" it looks to me some of you guys have forgot the whole idea of "TEAM". Willis has already given a statement about his situation and i would think YOU guys as "FANS" would understand and say "maybe next year" instead of acting like a sports writer and blowing things out of proportion. And let me tell you something i cant wait for you guys to climb up he's jock after the Miami game just like the cowboys game.[/quote]

He did not give his team his all. That is a false statement. Giving his all would be a guy like 33 year old Ray Lewis showing up to every optional minicamp and making a strong show of support for his new head coach. Willis skipped all of them and then showed up to training camp out of shape. He was running hurt earlier in the year, and I gave him a break, but some of it was because he was not in good football shape. Then, on the week leading up to our playoff game in Miami, he spouts off and says he is only running for himself. Hmmm, doesn't sound like a good team player to me.

[ravensfan6892]

I have been disappointed in Willis this year but i have never lost faith, i have been waiting for him all year and the last two games im happy with how hes done. Overall he's had a bad year but that is not uncommon for running backs, if he doesn't do something in the playoffs im sure he will step up next year and earn his big paycheck that the ravens are giving him

[flynismo]

[quote name='wolfzie06' post='115625' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:33 AM']He did not give his team his all. That is a false statement. Giving his all would be a guy like 33 year old Ray Lewis showing up to every optional minicamp and making a strong show of support for his new head coach. Willis skipped all of them and then showed up to training camp out of shape. He was running hurt earlier in the year, and I gave him a break, but some of it was because he was not in good football shape. Then, on the week leading up to our playoff game in Miami, he spouts off and says he is only running for himself. Hmmm, doesn't sound like a good team player to me.[/quote]


What?? This guy was on the field, running the ball with blood coming out of his eyes. What more do you want from the guy?
And that reference about him running for himself is taken out of context.

At any rate, this is exactly what the OP is talking about. Here we are in the playoffs, and we still find something to **** about.

[ravens27]

Man McClain is so much better.

[codizzle]

[quote name='Sizzle' post='115622' date='Dec 31 2008, 11:30 PM']The man gave this team his all in a 5-11 season when he could have just gave up and said maybe next year. I am sure if he wasn't bothered with something(MAYBE An INJURY or .....) his performance would be much better, Some of you guys are just a bunch of A holes instead of celebrating and taking about how to beat the dolphins as a "TEAM" it looks to me some of you guys have forgot the whole idea of "TEAM". Willis has already given a statement about his situation and i would think YOU guys as "FANS" would understand and say "maybe next year" instead of acting like a sports writer and blowing things out of proportion. And let me tell you something i cant wait for you guys to climb up he's jock after the Miami game just like the cowboys game.[/quote]
dude ive been behind him the whole time but after that last news column story with an interview of him its hard too stick with him.

if he changes his ways and starts to be a team player and forgets about personal stats over a team win then i'll defend him just as much as anybody

[Betweenthetackles]

I played D-I college football and I had to play with guys like him....selfish, lazy, finger pointing, not a Team player", unmotivated, not too bright etc.

He cost Baltimore 3 draft picks, 2 in the 2007 draft and 1 in 2008....for what? Anyone could have run for 1200 yards with the line the Ravens have.

Performance comes on and off the field....

This guy is a punk and bad for team chemistry......I can't believe no one else can see this. Take the purple blinders off......

I guess the management in Buffalo did and got rid of him before he spread his cancer.

He will be gone sooner rather than later.....hopefully sooner.

I would much rather have a Ray Rice or Jalen Parmele in the backfield backing up McLain.....plus it would save us $8.5 million too!

That just makes business sense.....RB's are easy to find........especially with a line and the coaching staff that the Ravens have.

Did you ever play Div I football? I was a Fullback (two year starter in a Div. I program) and had to block for a TB that was very similar to McGAhee with respect to his attitude and selfishness.

I can assure you that in high school McGahee's football coach was his history, Phys Ed, and Algebra teacher (didn't take Geometry or Trig I'm sure, probably enough just to scrape by)....and this guy has been given the easy way out his whole life for what he has done on the field....

The real world doesn't work that way... especially not with a new Sheriff in town...i.e. Midwestern Values Harbough.....We'll see whose right about this one.

Maybe Miami will give him his 6th injury of the season and do us all a favor and blow out his other knee......maybe that will force him to get a real job and have to respect authority and the concept of team.

[flynismo]

[quote name='codizzle' post='115633' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:43 AM']dude ive been behind him the whole time but after that last news column story with an interview of him its hard too stick with him.

if he changes his ways and starts to be a team player and forgets about personal stats over a team win then i'll defend him just as much as anybody[/quote]

That's just it, he wasn't putting his stats over the team, he was expressing his disappointment that he felt he could have done better to help the team.
Is everyone forgetting that he described himself as "playing like doo-doo"?

[RavenWarrior11]

[quote name='flynismo' post='115630' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:38 AM']What?? This guy was on the field, running the ball with blood coming out of his eyes. What more do you want from the guy?
And that reference about him running for himself is taken out of context.[/quote]

^ Here we go.

McGahee knows he's had a bad season, he said for himself he has played like "doo doo". The guy is hard on himself as a player, as a contributor and he is passionate about wanting to make a difference for the team. It seems to me that he tries to carry the weight of the team offensively on his shoulders.... and why not? He had to last year. Perhaps he is not very good with words, but I feel him. Obviously, I can't say I know him personally but he is probably one of those guys who can't easily express emotion, and typically says the wrong thing trying to do so. We just don't know. He's frustrated at himself, and at his injuries which have had a hand in his lack of performance for this season.

Selfish players don't play with blood running out of their eyes. They sit on the bench and drink up the gatorade.

[flynismo]

[quote name='Betweenthetackles' post='115636' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:50 AM']Anyone could have run for 1200 yards with the line the Ravens have.[/quote]

Does the name Jamal ring a bell?

[wolfzie06]

[quote name='flynismo' post='115630' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:38 AM']What?? This guy was on the field, running the ball with blood coming out of his eyes. What more do you want from the guy?
And that reference about him running for himself is taken out of context.

At any rate, this is exactly what the OP is talking about. Here we are in the playoffs, and we still find something to **** about.[/quote]

The funny thing is, I was responding to a guy who was complaining about us giving McGahee a hard time. I still think he can be a good part of this offense and I don't want to see him go next year. But he needs to show all areas of commitment to this team. The man has had some good games this year, but he has had his bad ones too. You can show me the clip of him running hard getting his eyes gouged out, and then I will show you a clip of him flopping on a play or missing a key block. And here's one more example of how he is not a team player this year- Le'ron McClain showed up to minicamps 10-15 pounds overweight, just like McGahee. The coaches told him to lose it immediately, and Derrick Mason had a sit down talk with him and let him know how important conditioning was and how important he is to our offense. He lost the weight, even as he went down almost every day with cramps. And now he is punishing defenses. This is the difference between McGahee and McClain.

[Betweenthetackles]

Just want to see him honor and respect his teammates and coaches....hard work and dedication would be a good place to start.

How do you think the Ravens strength coach feels after he inadvertantly got blamed for Phyllis coming back to camp out of shape.

You won't gain weight if you lift weights (another myth by the uneducated idiot Phyllis)...not if you are doing 12-15 reps (or more) with multiple sets.. Possibly get some plyometrics and explosive speed/power work and he'd come in the same weight, stronger, faster, and with more stamina.
The reason he got hurt and is out of breath is that he is lazy and not motivated.....a real loser for a professional if you ask me.
I am surprised Lorenzo Neal hasn't kicked his as$ up and down yet....wish he would.

This guy is a manipulative SOB....as soon as he senses folks are turning on him....he buys himself more time by saying the right thing.

Classic "just do enough to get by" kinda guy.

Cure the cancer and cut him...

[flynismo]

[quote name='wolfzie06' post='115641' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:57 AM']The funny thing is, I was responding to a guy who was complaining about us giving McGahee a hard time. I still think he can be a good part of this offense and I don't want to see him go next year. But he needs to show all areas of commitment to this team. The man has had some good games this year, but he has had his bad ones too. You can show me the clip of him running hard getting his eyes gouged out, and then I will show you a clip of him flopping on a play or missing a key block. And here's one more example of how he is not a team player this year- Le'ron McClain showed up to minicamps 10-15 pounds overweight, just like McGahee. The coaches told him to lose it immediately, and Derrick Mason had a sit down talk with him and let him know how important conditioning was and how important he is to our offense. He lost the weight, even as he went down almost every day with cramps. And now he is punishing defenses. This is the difference between McGahee and McClain.[/quote]

No doubt that he has played inconsistently, at best. No debate at all from me on that point.
I can't comment on him being out of shape, because there's various conflicting stories about that, and I'm in no position to say what's what...

But I simply don't see how anyone could question his heart or intentions. I don't mean to sound like an a_hole when I say this, but McGahee doesn't seem like he's very articulate, or very good with talking to the press. Naturally some people are going to take him the wrong way. But other than TO and Moss, there are really very few players out there that are dense enough to say the things that people are trying to stick to McGahee.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='wolfzie06' post='115641' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:57 AM']The funny thing is, I was responding to a guy who was complaining about us giving McGahee a hard time. I still think he can be a good part of this offense and I don't want to see him go next year. But he needs to show all areas of commitment to this team. The man has had some good games this year, but he has had his bad ones too. You can show me the clip of him running hard getting his eyes gouged out, and then I will show you a clip of him flopping on a play or missing a key block. And here's one more example of how he is not a team player this year- Le'ron McClain showed up to minicamps 10-15 pounds overweight, just like McGahee. The coaches told him to lose it immediately, and Derrick Mason had a sit down talk with him and let him know how important conditioning was and how important he is to our offense. He lost the weight, even as he went down almost every day with cramps. And now he is punishing defenses. This is the difference between McGahee and McClain.[/quote]
I agree wholeheartedly. I'll reiterate the same comments I've made throughout McGahee's slump, that I want him back on the team next year, but I want him to show more commitment.

But let me also reiterate my main point in the other thread:

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115354' date='Dec 31 2008, 04:38 PM']So, it just disappoints me to see that Willis McGahee cares more about his 1,000 yards right now, than the game at hand on Saturday. Now, am I exaggerating this a bit? Probably. [b]But it bothers me to see a player make these type of comments [i]now[/i], when the rest of the team has already said all the right things and done little to attract negative attention.[/b][/quote]
The part I've bolded, is what I've harped on with McGahee. What's done is done, and his [i]individual[/i] season may be over, in his own words. [i]But[/i], there's still at least one more game to play. Now's not the time to vent and get things off his chest. Do it when the [i]team's[/i] season is over. Now's not the time for reflecting on disappointments and other things that you can't change.

If he wants to prove he's a team player, then let him prove all of his critics wrong (including myself) throughout this [u]entire[/u] playoff run, however long it lasts. Let him stop airing his dirty laundry and stop being so "honest" and stop drawing attention to himself for reasons other than helping his team win.

But let us also remember, this is a what-have-you-done-for-me-lately league. What McGahee did last season, won't matter next season. And even with his price tag, running backs are a dime-a-dozen in this league; so unless McGahee does something to prove that he's special, he can easily be replaced if necessary, as Le'Ron McClain and Ray Rice have shown.

[theFRANCHISE]

[quote name='flynismo' post='115647' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:13 AM']But I simply don't see how anyone could question his heart or intentions. I don't mean to sound like an a_hole when I say this, [b]but McGahee doesn't seem like he's very articulate, or very good with talking to the press.[/b] Naturally some people are going to take him the wrong way. But other than TO and Moss, there are really very few players out there that are dense enough to say the things that people are trying to stick to McGahee.[/quote]

Then that's why he shouldn't talk unless he has to.

Players are only contractually obligated to fulfill certain media requirements. So, the way I see it, he might've had good intentions, but he still should've been very careful about choosing his words. Doesn't matter if he was being honest, because there are varying degrees of honesty in being professional.

[Betweenthetackles]

Jeff Ireland, Bill Parcels and Tony Sparano would have taken less than one week to cut Phyllis McGahee off the Dolphins....They don't mess around when it comes to the concept of TEAM. Going from 1-15 to 11-5 obviously these guys know what they're doing.
Maybe Harbough should borrow a chapter from this story.....

[codizzle]

[quote name='Betweenthetackles' post='115656' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:36 AM']Jeff Ireland, Bill Parcels and Tony Sparano would have taken less than one week to cut Phyllis McGahee off the Dolphins....They don't mess around when it comes to the concept of TEAM. Going from 1-15 to 11-5 obviously these guys know what they're doing.
Maybe Harbough should borrow a chapter from this story.....[/quote]
i think harbs knows wat he is doing and no those three wouldnt have cut him either because of the financial liabilities

[MagicianCamille]

[quote name='codizzle' post='115633' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:43 AM']dude ive been behind him the whole time but after that last news column story with an interview of him its hard too stick with him.[/quote]

So basically after watching him actually play you're behind him, but when reading a sports article written by a sports writer, who always blow things out of proportion and/or take quotes out of context to get readers, you have suddenly changed your mind?

I like to have my own opinions on things. It's fun, and underrated IMO.

[codizzle]

[quote name='MagicianCamille' post='115661' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:03 AM']So basically after watching him actually play you're behind him, but when reading a sports article written by a sports writer, who always blow things out of proportion and/or take quotes out of context to get readers, you have suddenly changed your mind?

I like to have my own opinions on things. It's fun, and underrated IMO.[/quote]
no after watching him play this year im so/so and after hearing him (not just the reporter) lol in interviews im thinking he's gone off the deep end

and that is my opinion

[flynismo]

[quote name='theFRANCHISE' post='115653' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:30 AM']Then that's why he shouldn't talk unless he has to.

Players are only contractually obligated to fulfill certain media requirements. So, the way I see it, he might've had good intentions, but he still should've been very careful about choosing his words. Doesn't matter if he was being honest, because there are varying degrees of honesty in being professional.[/quote]


I understand your point, and agree.
But I also see where he's coming from. I can only imagine how much flack he has taken from everyone, and how much pressure he's under. Then that compounds, because he isn't meeting his own expectations for himself.
I agree, I wish he would shut his trap, and none of this would be going on, but he's human just like the rest of us...he can only turn his cheek for so long.