Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

BR News

[News] Ravens Hire Marc Trestman As Offensive Coordinator

339 posts in this topic

dont like it. i thought gase was the better candidate. but ill back the front office on this

please state some specific reasons when comparing the two... you may want to rethink your position on this one

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Head Coaches and Offensive Coordinators have different titles for a reason people. The former usually doesnt call the plays, even if he is of an offensive pedigree. at most, they do a little backseat driving and edit some line items in the playbook from time to time.

point is, having a bad record as a head coach does not mean you're a bad coordinator.

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

People think Trestman is solely responsible for the Bears being terrible. If you watched their QB and defense, you would have understood why the Bears sucked. Cutler is terrible. Trestman didn't throw the passes. He also didn't pay Cutler a ton of money. The Bears sscrewed themselves. Trestman actually got good production from whoever was under center, cutler just forgot what team he was on about 2-4 times a game.

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

emarc.... tai pas serieux? tu penses tu vraiment que TRESTMAN est la solution? il faisait pittier a MTL.. si cetait pas pour POPP il srais rien... tai drole pour dire que cest un bon coach... SA VA FAIRE DURE NOTRE AFFAIRE

 

I guess you have used up your daily allocation of all caps (which, the Golden rules say you should use "sparingly").

 

Just thought I'd let you know before you get a warning for it from an adminsitrator.

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

We have an IRS Auditor for our new OC.... I really DONT have a good feeling about this guy.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I guess you have used up your daily allocation of all caps (which, the Golden rules say you should use "sparingly").

 

Just thought I'd let you know before you get a warning for it from an adminsitrator.

Those admins aren't so tough.  I'm still posting.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

What's his style? Does it fit our scheme we had or our personnel?

 

It will probably fit our personnel better than Gase's and will likely provide more of a "continutiy" after Kubiak than Gase would have been. Some of us suspect this might have been one of the deciding factors tipping the scale in his favor. But that's only speculation, of course.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are the records for each of our last 3 coordinators the year before we hired them to be playoff caliber playcallers:

Cam Cameron, Dolphins, 1-15

Jim Caldwell, Colts, 2-14

Gary Kubiak, Texans 2-14

Something tells me we should disregard Trestman's last year with 5 wins and a quitter for a QB.

2

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

oh my. This is another Cam Cam play caller type isn't it? Ugh.

Yes, and sadly we'll probably have just enough success in spite of him, that he sticks around for a few years.

-6

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I also think Harbs felt more stability with Trestman than the up and coming Gase....By stability i mean more than 1 and done.....

7

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Those admins aren't so tough.  I'm still posting.

 

A warning is only a warning ;)

 

and I know of a few of them handed out for excessive use of all caps - that's why I thought I'd let him know.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Not sure about that... Castillo was called everything a season ago - and then, when the O-line got their act together and worked like a clockwork, none of them came saying good job, Juan...

 

But hey, let's first win those 5 rings and then we'll see :D

indifferent silence is usually about the best we could hope for. But even when we're doing well (which is generally all the time these days) there are always those pessimist zealots who swear we're gonna go 4-12 every year for whatever odd reason.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bio....I feel your speculation is spot on....Gase's offensive mind is good...but not, IMHO, a fit to the offense we just rocked this year......

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are the records for each of our last 3 coordinators the year before we hired them to be playoff caliber playcallers:

Cam Cameron, Dolphins, 1-15

Jim Caldwell, Colts, 2-14

Gary Kubiak, Texans 2-14

Something tells me we should disregard Trestman's last year with 5 wins and a quitter for a QB.

 

Yeah, Ozzie seems to have a knack for HC's who had a terrible season. I must say it worked more often than not - though Cam Cameron is a huge negative example :)

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

indifferent silence is usually about the best we could hope for. But even when we're doing well (which is generally all the time these days) there are always those pessimist zealots who swear we're gonna go 4-12 every year for whatever odd reason.

 

Yeah, the Eternal Optimists :D

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Yes, and sadly we'll probably have just enough success in spite of him, that he sticks around for a few years.

Hardly. No longer have the defense to carry a bipolar offense and never will with Pees here.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

please state some specific reasons when comparing the two... you may want to rethink your position on this one

i like the idea of a fresh young mind who has been touted as a bit of a qb whisperer, the general consensus is that he adapts his scheme to the players, not the other way around, and his philosophy would be tailor made for joe flacco to succeed in, while being able to adapt and keep this run game implemented instead of trying to force a whole new system. 

 

track record just isnt always the greatest measure in my opinion, trestman has been around for ages and he knows his stuff, but you could roll the dice and find the next great OC, and gase seems like he has the makings of one.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Trestman runs the traditional WC Style offense, quick passing game, timing routes, but the style is a wide open attacking offense. He likes to play hitch screens to wideouts as well as runningbacks.

Hopefully the run game will not change from the one Kubiak installed, and Trestman will keep the naked bootlegs and rollouts that Joe was using so effectively at the end of the season.

1

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Bio....I feel your speculation is spot on....Gase's offensive mind is good...but not, IMHO, a fit to the offense we just rocked this year......

 

That should be the plan IMHO.

 

We'll see how all that materializes. The Pro Bowl may be a good chance for him to get to know his fellow coaches - and vica versa. And then, he'll have all the off season to get to know the offensive roster and tailor his schemes to them.

 

I'm quite ptimistic about next season.

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Have any of you watched the Bears offense the last 2 seasons? It's a fast-paced, West-coast offense that uses the shotgun a lot and involves a quick passing game and uses screens a lot. Trestman definitely liked going down field though, and Flacco is definitely a lot better at that than Cutler was. It'll be interesting to see what happens at RB this offseason, Idk what that means for Forsett, I'd be surprised to see OD back though, Trestman seems to prefer bigger TEs. The Ravens OL is probably better than the Bears though, the receivers are probably a step down from Alshon and Brandon Marshall though, but the Ravens have better depth than the Bears at WR.

3

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Here are the records for each of our last 3 coordinators the year before we hired them to be playoff caliber playcallers:

Cam Cameron, Dolphins, 1-15

Jim Caldwell, Colts, 2-14

Gary Kubiak, Texans 2-14

Something tells me we should disregard Trestman's last year with 5 wins and a quitter for a QB.

Here are the offensive rankings for the Ravens under said coordinators:

Cameron:  13th, 22nd, 15th, 16th

Caldwell:  29th

Never in the top third of the league despite having relatively (for the NFL) consistent QB play.  You consider those successes?

0

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites