Backup QB (Merged)

[BmoreBird22]

That's the thing Alskan, I'm not talking about nor have I ever mentioned Tyrod Taylor in this thread.  Another dude brought his name into this not me.  I'm speaking in general terms.  "Whoever" the future backup maybe here in Baltimore, I'm pretty sure he'll be hated.  It comes with the territory it seems.

The reason people are even mentioning Tyrod is because he was the backup and he was never hated here and many people are very happy he'll have a shot to compete as a starter, so why you think people will hate a backup seems very baseless since Taylor (a backup) was well liked enough to be called upon by fans every time Flacco had a bad game

[Club Sec. 217 Seat 2]

 

Schefter just tweeted it could be Schaub as early as this week Ravens, Falcons and Jets are all interested in him Just an FYI to my brother and sister Raven fans.....

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Yeahhhh looks like hes scheduled to visit us this week.....honestly I don't care who our back up QB is, if Joe goes down we are most likely screwed....and I don't see a problem with that

[Militant X 1]

The reason people are even mentioning Tyrod is because he was the backup and he was never hated here and many people are very happy he'll have a shot to compete as a starter, so why you think people will hate a backup seems very baseless since Taylor (a backup) was well liked enough to be called upon by fans every time Flacco had a bad game

 

It is amazing to me Bmore to see why you cats just can't address what I'm saying...which is....regardless of "who" (not Tyrod Taylor) the backup maybe in the future on this roster....I'm pretty sure he will be hated by this fan base.  Leave Tyrod out of this equation cause I have.  Everyone wanted Wenning to be the backup at one time....well; now you have him....and yet, some are already hating on him.  That's my point!

[BmoreBird22]

It is amazing to me Bmore to see why you cats just can't address what I'm saying...which is....regardless of "who" (not Tyrod Taylor) the backup maybe in the future on this roster....I'm pretty sure he will be hated by this fan base.  Leave Tyrod out of this equation cause I have.  Everyone wanted Wenning to be the backup at one time....well; now you have him....and yet, some are already hating on him.  That's my point!

How are they hating on him? Unless something drastically changes from last year, he's probably not ready yet and it's not a bad thing to bring in competition.

The reason others and I will again bring up Tyrod is because he was the backup and no one hated him. I don't see people hating on Wenning, either

[Militant X 1]

How are they hating on him? Unless something drastically changes from last year, he's probably not ready yet and it's not a bad thing to bring in competition.

The reason others and I will again bring up Tyrod is because he was the backup and no one hated him. I don't see people hating on Wenning, either

 

First, you are fooling yourself if you think no one hated on Tyrod.  Lol!  Secondly, while I agree with the fact that Wenning may not be ready, I've already seen a few posts where some posters are already running the usual line of..."he's not the answer!"  My question then is....who is the answer?  And, if you think he is the answer, it will be just a matter of time before he receives hate.  Especially, if people want to see him in games.  Am I right about that?

[BmoreBird22]

First, you are fooling yourself if you think no one hated on Tyrod.  Lol!  Secondly, while I agree with the fact that Wenning may not be ready, I've already seen a few posts where some posters are already running the usual line of..."he's not the answer!"  My question then is....who is the answer?  And, if you think he is the answer, it will be just a matter of time before he receives hate.  Especially, if people want to see him in games.  Am I right about that?

Okay, Tyrod probably received quite a bit of hate after that New England game, but again, many people wanted him to come in and play in most games, as was true with Marc Bulger.

I don't particularly think Wenning is the answer this year and may never be, but the Ravens have the luxury of taking flyers on a player like that due to Joe's Ironman ability. It's not hating, just realizing that Wenning probably would be more of a mess than Tyrod was in extensive action against NE

[Militant X 1]

Okay, Tyrod probably received quite a bit of hate after that New England game, but again, many people wanted him to come in and play in most games, as was true with Marc Bulger.

I don't particularly think Wenning is the answer this year and may never be, but the Ravens have the luxury of taking flyers on a player like that due to Joe's Ironman ability. It's not hating, just realizing that Wenning probably would be more of a mess than Tyrod was in extensive action against NE

 

I get that Joe is durable and that is one of the things that I actually like about him.  My point is more of...what if he does go down cause he is human...then what?  Do we automatically say stuff like; "we're done," "we're screwed," "our season is over" etc?  That's what most posters in here do!  To me...that's backup hate!  Cause before the man even steps on the field the season is already in the tank.  And most fan bases probably feel that way.  I get it! 

 

I'm not saying that I expect our backup QB (whoever he maybe in the future) to come in and just play lights out if Joe goes down.  It would be nice if he was able to do that....to step in and keep the ball rolling until Joe recovered from his injury but then; if he was able to do that....then in the eyes of most we'd have another issue on our hands...wouldn't we?

Edited March 30, 2015 by Militant X 1

[BmoreBird22]

I get that Joe is durable and that is one of the things that I actually like about him.  My point is more of...what if he does go down cause he is human...then what?  Do we automatically say stuff like; "we're done," "we're screwed," "our season is over" etc?  That's what most posters in here do!  To me...that's backup hate!  Cause before the man even steps on the field the season is already in the tank.  And most fan bases probably feel that way.  I get it! 

 

I'm not saying that I expect our backup QB (whoever he maybe in the future) to come in and just play lights out if Joe goes down.  It would be nice if he was able to do that....to step in and keep the ball rolling until Joe recovered from his injury but then; if he was able to do that....then in the eyes of most we'd have another issue on our hands...wouldn't we?

I'm willing to give Wenning a chance or any other backup because I'm with you- I don't know how he would perform in a game if the offense were toned back and he played the role of game manager. I personally think Tyrod was put in an unfair situation in NE because of the terrible offensive line, no running game, and a pass happy offense that even Joe didn't light it up in. I'd like to think Tyrod would have a better chance with Kubiak if he were ever called upon

However, I do realize that in most cases, if you're starting quarterback goes down, you're likely done as a team. Several teams don't even have starters than can win games, so finding a backup that can consistently is beyond ridiculously hard.

Honestly, I think most fans will just put too little stock into the backup position (due to the difficulty of winning a game as a backup) to even give the position hate

[RedFire]

I'm willing to give Wenning a chance or any other backup because I'm with you- I don't know how he would perform in a game if the offense were toned back and he played the role of game manager. I personally think Tyrod was put in an unfair situation in NE because of the terrible offensive line, no running game, and a pass happy offense that even Joe didn't light it up in. I'd like to think Tyrod would have a better chance with Kubiak if he were ever called upon

However, I do realize that in most cases, if you're starting quarterback goes down, you're likely done as a team. Several teams don't even have starters than can win games, so finding a backup that can consistently is beyond ridiculously hard.

Honestly, I think most fans will just put too little stock into the backup position (due to the difficulty of winning a game as a backup) to even give the position hate

 

 

it just takes a certain level of planning. we saw Philly have some success with Sanchez when Foles went down. Chip seems like a cross t's and dot i's guy that will let his backups get burn since he runs practice faster.

 

if the NFL had a bench vs bench game...i'd trust Chip Kelly to win since he doesn't ignore members of the team. 

[Militant X 1]

it just takes a certain level of planning. we saw Philly have some success with Sanchez when Foles went down. Chip seems like a cross t's and dot i's guy that will let his backups get burn since he runs practice faster.

 

if the NFL had a bench vs bench game...i'd trust Chip Kelly to win since he doesn't ignore members of the team. 

 

I agree with that. 

 

I'd like to think that our "backup" could come in and do just that.....back up Joe Flacco.....if he actually got hurt and had to miss a few games.  I for one am not quick to say that our season would be over if that happened because as most people in here like to keep saying...I believe that our FO and coaches know more about these players and their abilities than we do and know what they are capable of if called upon.  That's why they are on the roster in the first place. 

[52520Andrew]

How many times has a team won a Super Bowl after their starting QB went down? How about in the past 20 years? I think it would be a bit unfair to just give up on a season but I would definitely lower my expectations if Flacco went down for the season(Really hope he doesn't(knocks on wood)) and we had to throw a backup in. That's not me "hating on a backup", that is me coming to terms with the reality that we just took a big hit at the most important position in the game more likely than not.

[Ravenslifer]

How many times has a team won a Super Bowl after their starting QB went down? How about in the past 20 years? I think it would be a bit unfair to just give up on a season but I would definitely lower my expectations if Flacco went down for the season(Really hope he doesn't(knocks on wood)) and we had to throw a backup in. That's not me "hating on a backup", that is me coming to terms with the reality that we just took a big hit at the most important position in the game more likely than not.

 

Just us with Trent, but that was a deliberate benching because Tony Banks was playing terribly.  I don't think you can realistically win with a backup quarterback in this league - the importance of the position in today's game makes the talent gap too great to overcome.  There aren't 32 superbowl-capable starters in the league, so I'd say it's impossible to win a Superbowl with a backup quarterback.

[new username]

I don't think our current back-up QBs will every cut it.  I'm hoping for one both these possibilties. Either draft Sean Mannion from Oregon St. in 5-6th rounds and/or sign Matt Schaub on the cheap.  

 

Mannion is a big QB sort of a cross between Joe and Schaub.  He's a better developmental prospect than Wenning and has the tools become an NFL starter.

 

Schaub is far from finished and can be a great veteran back-up for at least one season.  He had one disasterous season and flourished in system that we now use; Trestman's style offense is close to Kubiak's.  If ever called upon he could prosper here and we do well with reclaiming once good players off the scrap heap.  

Mannion won't be available in the 5-6th round. He had a killer pro-day and is now being talked about as the possible 3rd qb taken in the draft.

Edited March 31, 2015 by new username

[ellicottraven]

I heard Matt Schaub is visiting us this week. More than likely if his price is right and more importantly his arm is right, then I think he will be a good pickup for us. Obviously, we installed Kube's offense last year and Trestman has assured us he wouldn't change too much around. So, who better than Schaub as back up since he knows Kube's offense inside out (hopefully)!

[omar586]

schaub to the ravens sound good.

[MrDelDante]

Bring Brady Quinn in. Can't help but like the guy,

[RedFire]

schaub to the ravens sound good.

 

i feel like he could get us to the playoffs and that's what is important as a franchise if we do not win it all. we don't have flashy guys, so we have to get respect by being in the playoffs every year. 

 

if we get a couple more rings we can have an off year here and there and still get benefit of the doubt.  

[new username]

If Schaub doesn't work out. And he might not because he may be looking for more money than the Ravens want to spend on the back-up. I have heard that Jordan Palmer is being considered. He has ties to Tressman. As well as the secondary benefit of being a good QB to work with rookies and bring them along. For the second year in a row he has worked with a QB for the draft and they had superior workouts that improved their ultimate draft. Blake Bortles last year and Sean Mannion this year.

[Tenacious Faulker]

I would like to get Mike Glennon from Tampa Bay.

Now there's a goodname for a quality b/u.  He's another Flacco-esque QB and young enough stiull be shaped further in his mold.  The Ravens will need to trade for him but I don;t know what the Bucs would reasonably expect for him - 6th? a 5th?

[Tru11]

glennon would cost at least a 3rd round pick and i doubt i will see that happen.

 

he was a 3rd round pick and he has starting experience + he has this season + next season left on his deal + he is the only experienced QB they have.

Edited March 31, 2015 by Tru11

[The Mom Gene]

I thought that when I went to the Tampa game last year...  that this guy reminds me a little of Joe.  and I think Schaub has some of those similar styles as well. 

[January J]

Trade gradkowski (sp?) and a 6th round pick for glennon. Id like Fitzpatrick as a backup but wouldn't happen.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Peter King Tweeted:  https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/582962137217282049

 

Matt Schaub Signed.

 

That was fast.  

Edited March 31, 2015 by Tenacious Faulker

[Wildabeast88]

How many times has a team won a Super Bowl after their starting QB went down? How about in the past 20 years? I think it would be a bit unfair to just give up on a season but I would definitely lower my expectations if Flacco went down for the season(Really hope he doesn't(knocks on wood)) and we had to throw a backup in. That's not me "hating on a backup", that is me coming to terms with the reality that we just took a big hit at the most important position in the game more likely than not.

Kurt Warner Doug Williams are two that come to mind also it was slightly before my time but wasn't Earl Morrall a backup. It can happen but the rest of the team has to be stacked

[Wildabeast88]

schaub to the ravens sound good.

I like Schaub and have since he went to UVA but 3 mil for a declining vet I would rather try Wenning but that's just me.

[52520Andrew]

Kurt Warner Doug Williams are two that come to mind also it was slightly before my time but wasn't Earl Morrall a backup. It can happen but the rest of the team has to be stacked

Yeah certainly not impossible but it is rare, Warner and Brady are the 2 big ones recently and QB has only gotten more important since then

[ravensnick]

I like Schaub and have since he went to UVA but 3 mil for a declining vet I would rather try Wenning but that's just me.

Unless Schaub has to play major time, I think the money is more like 2 million. 

[rmw10]

Appropriate timing for this revival.

 

Now that Matt Schaub is the starter, who becomes the backup?  Anyone have an idea of who is even out there... because I have no idea.

[Kid87]

Any Free Agents left?

[Kid87]

Lol I'm sure we'll sign somebody and then have them inactive for the game lol