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Did you guys forget about Keith Wenning? I think he could be a serviceable QB, especially with Marc 'QB Whisperer' Trestman as our OC/QB coach. Wenning showed promise during the preseason last year.

 

He did..? I don't exactly remember him doing so well tbh

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He did..? I don't exactly remember him doing so well tbh

 

Per ESPN.com: *QB Keith Wenning: He was a sixth-round draft pick out of Ball State who spent the entire 2014 season on the practice squad. Wenning improved throughout the summer and he showed potential by the preseason finale. He finished 10 of 17 for 140 yards for a 85.4 passer rating in the preseason.

 

LINK: http://espn.go.com/blog/baltimore-ravens/post/_/id/17438/ravens-sign-nine-players-to-reserve-future-deals

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Even just a solid backup QB would give the team around him more confidence and perhaps he'd play better. I think we should definitely upgrade the backup QB. I'm 100% onboard with the OP.

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i would consider taking tim tebow as a back up qb. not joking either.

I wouldn't... because sadly, you'd have some fans that think he'd be a better QB after Joe has a bad game.

 

I don't think he adds any benefit to this team whatsoever...

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I wouldn't... because sadly, you'd have some fans that think he'd be a better QB after Joe has a bad game.

 

I don't think he adds any benefit to this team whatsoever...

I hope you're joking... Taylor I can get. He can actually throw.... 

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I hope you're joking... Taylor I can get. He can actually throw.... 

O not even remotely joking... it would be way worse with Tebow.

 

Tebow actually has a mild track record of NFL success... Tyrod doesn't.

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I was thinking this guy name peyton manning may be coming available soon and we could get him for the veteran minimum.

 

hmmm we could carry him to a SB if he gets us to the play offs if joe goes down lol.

 

could get that 2nd SB as a back up lololololol

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I don't think Troy smith / Tyrod Taylor is Matt Cassel. The reality of the situation is Joe is only one hit away and we have been blessed so far.... and we are a next man up team and not having a solid backup is not a good investment and some people would want us to tank. We are gambling on one man to play all games every year and I'm not sure we are serviceable in the backup position and not sure we can keep rolling such dice.

I want to win it all no matter who is lined up...or under center every year. And I don't want a Curtis Painter situation....just my 2.

Every team is looking for this guy, he is just not out there. Especially when so many teams need a starting QB, like Jacksonville and Cleveland.

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From a salary cap perspective, I can't see Ozzie with a backup QB that's not still on his rookie contract. 

A veteran backup QB will hit against the cap way more than what the front office wants. 

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I like Wenning but we should have drafted mettenberger. Dude is going to be great!! No big $$ on backup qbs

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When you have a offensive line that only allow the quarterback to be sack 19 times last year combined with the fact that Flacco  has never missed a game then the concerns of a back up quarterback aren't that high in my opinon. I guess we could always try to bring back Tyrod Taylor but we probably draft  a quarterback or just hope Keith Wenning( think that's how you spell his name) can live up to the promise the team has for him.

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O not even remotely joking... it would be way worse with Tebow.

 

Tebow actually has a mild track record of NFL success... Tyrod doesn't.

 

Tebow was a "starter" for a few of his games which helps a player improve somewhat.  He still couldn't throw the football to save his life.  And yet, Tyrod, has never had that type of opportunity to "start" a few regular season games to gain more experience because of Joe Flacco's durability.  We all know how I personally feel about this kid so I'll leave it at that.  After 4 years on the pine...I'd like to see him take a chance on himself and go elsewhere.

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I like Winning but we should have drafted mettenberger. Dude is going to be great!! No big $$ on backup qbs

 

Mettenberger went as the 2nd pick in the 6th round, shortly after Baltimore took Urschel (who looks like a steal as a comp 5th rounder). Wenning wasn't taken for another 16 picks, when Mettenberger was not available. So would you have been willing to take Mettenberger instead of Urschel? I wouldn't

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1. Flacco has never missed a game

2. Young backups are much cheaper than proven vets, allowing the cap space to be used on other, more important players

3. Proven vets are less likely to come to a place where the QB has failed to miss a game

Summed it up well

I'd be surprised if we didn't go with wenning(or however his name is spelled)

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I like Winning but we should have drafted mettenberger. Dude is going to be great!! No big $$ on backup qbs

Who doesn't like winning?

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Tebow was a "starter" for a few of his games which helps a player improve somewhat.  He still couldn't throw the football to save his life.  And yet, Tyrod, has never had that type of opportunity to "start" a few regular season games to gain more experience because of Joe Flacco's durability.  We all know how I personally feel about this kid so I'll leave it at that.  After 4 years on the pine...I'd like to see him take a chance on himself and go elsewhere.

Tyrod could go somewhere.. he would be a good backup for a team that likes to run the read option like Seattle, Washington, Carolina, or SF. No one in their right mind would consider starting him. 

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Mettenberger went as the 2nd pick in the 6th round, shortly after Baltimore took Urschel (who looks like a steal as a comp 5th rounder). Wenning wasn't taken for another 16 picks, when Mettenberger was not available. So would you have been willing to take Mettenberger instead of Urschel? I wouldn't

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Yep yep I would have!! Just my opinion, Mettenberger was the best QB in that draft and one of best pure arms you will find. Actually a very similar skill set to Joe Flacco. He has an elite arm and throws 25 yards like a laser with accuracy and natural confidence that many QBs show on 10 yard short timing throws. Mettenberger is awesome, I don't know what scouts were looking at in last years draftdraft rating qbs like Bortles or Manziel better than him although they could be great qbs but Mettenberger is a rare talent. He likely could have brought us as much as 2 #1 draft picks or at least a #1. John Urschel has played well but I wouldn't call him a steal for being serviceable. Many serviceable guards and centers come in the middle rounds. Now if he wins the center job and is mentioned as one of the best centers in the league then that is a steal. If he wins the center job and outplays our starter I would call him a great pick but to be a steal he would have to be one of the 10 best centers in the NFL but not just for being a solid starter. He likely would have been available with the Wenning pickpick if we drafted Mettenberger. If not there was still Corey Linsley they could have drafted who has been a very solid center. They gave rookie center award to Stork but I think Linsley is better.

Mettenberger in my opinion is going to be compared to Brady eventually as a Round6 pro bowl QB and total steal maybe as early as next year if they get him another good WR. As a matter of fact cuz of Mettenberger I believe that is the team we will be dueling with in the AFCCG in a couple seasons as long as we have a good upcoming draft. The Titans would have to be nuts to not give him a chance as the starter. If a team out there needs a QB and the Titans have any thoughts of drafting another QB they may wanna call Tennessee and ask what they want for Mettenberger!! Rex Ryan should do so. So yeah I would have wanted Mettenberger with that pick in .03 seconds. Then drafted Urschel or Linsley with next pick.

Actually last year was an underrated and great draft for QBs!! Many of the Qbs that went in rounds2-6 I would have drafted before any of the 2011 Round1 QBs other than Newton. I like Wennings QB skills better than all of the 2011 class except Newton and maybe Kaepernick. I hear Mariota and Winston are great prospects but haven't watched them yet.

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I believe Wenning will be the back up next year. I can see drafting a guy like Bo Wallace, Sean Mannion or Bryce Petty if they fall to like the 6 or 7th rounds......that's a big if.. Other then that they will bring in a handful of vets and UDFA for camp arms. So unless one of them shines. It will be Wenning and maybe a late draft pick as our 2 and 3......and that's doughtful considering since Flacco was drafted we have only carried 3 QB's once I believe. So......Wenning it is..lol

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The team will look for immediate impact players in rounds 1 and 2, quality depth for key positions like secondary, RB, OL in the mid-rounds and steals at any position in the late rounds. I have a hard time seeing us investing much in a backup QB. To take a QB in the mid-rounds will hurt us in not getting that needed depth and will not help us if Joe goes down. If that happens, our season will be sunk regardless.

 

I suppose if we feel that Wenning is absolutely not ready to step on the field and that we would want him back on the PS, we could look for a vet cheap, but they would have to be very cheap. 

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Like almost every other team in the league with a franchise QB, we just have to go with what we have and go into crisis management if our franchise QB goes down. We would have to survive a few games. Meanwhile, shop the market for recently retire, cut, unsigned, possible even trade 2nd-3rd string vets, journeymen QB's and/or coach-up our replacement QB to manage games.

 

With the way contracts and budgets work today you don't have many alternatives when you have a franchise QB. It is what it is. Hopefully Joe continues to stay healthy and whoever the back-up may be has a lot of professional pride and prepares as if he will be a starter someday. 

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I'm really content with Wenning. Unless someone really good comes up late in the draft or as an UDFA, I say go with him.

agreed I think that's the best option myself
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Last real backup that we knew could win a couple games if necessary was Bulger. We may sign a veteran backup this year with Taylor set to be a free agent. Even with Wenning on the roster I think we get him competition unless he looks terrific in preseason.

Flacco has been very durable, he's tougher than the media gives him credit for, Flacco takes some shots and just keep getting up. But if he were injured and the team crashed for a season, then it would only mean we collect on a rare high draft pick.

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Also once Bulger retired the team has basically chosen not to put extra money in the position of QB. They haven't carried 3 QBs as often, have relied on Tyrod on rookie contract to limit cost. This was going on before Flacco got his deal.

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There aren't any Jeff Hostetler's among veteran backup QBs available, a guy who can step in and win a Super Bowl for you.

So, if Joe can't go for a few weeks, then we're running the ball a lot until he returns.

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I actually like Wenning. I think he could eventually be a starter in the NFL and not just a game manager. He has a better arm than Andy Daulton or Hoyer. He didn't have any NFL caliber WRs in college but was very accurate. He is at least as good as Andy Daulton. If Ravens upgrade the WRs/TEs in free agency I think Wenning could definitely score some points. I liked Mettenberger better and if he had to play I don't think the offense would have any problems once he got some experience. However I think Wenning could surprise everybody.

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