barring an incredible homerun in the draft..

[Inqui]

lol only had to look at the title to know who made this thread

I said that in a slightly less diplomatic way and got my post deleted.

[Cville-Raven]

I said that in a slightly less diplomatic way and got my post deleted.

lol I've been there whenver I mentioned a certain poster who spoke in third person and had an avatar of Ed Reed in a Jets uniform

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

lol I've been there whenver I mentioned a certain poster who spoke in third person and had an avatar of Ed Reed in a Jets uniform

Why would anyone do that? 

 

 

Honestly so confused? More hilarity? 

[Cville-Raven]

Why would anyone do that? 

 

 

Honestly so confused? More hilarity? 

Don't ask me man

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Don't ask me man

I meant what are you talking about haha?

[Cville-Raven]

I meant what are you talking about haha?

lol Like I said, I couldnt tell you becuase I simply dont know. Some of their posts were so overboard it was hard to tell if they weren't trolling. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

lol Like I said, I couldnt tell you becuase I simply dont know. Some of their posts were so overboard it was hard to tell if they weren't trolling. 

Like High School relationship overboard or the Titanic is sinking overboard?'

 

Both apply.. All I can say is I missed and probably wish I went back to the gallows.

[Inqui]

Why would anyone do that? 

 

 

Honestly so confused? More hilarity? 

You've been asleep for a long time in this fan's opinion.

[Cville-Raven]

You've been asleep for a long time in this fan's opinion.

lol this guy knows what I'm talking about

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

You've been asleep for a long time in this fan's opinion.

I honestly think he's trolling. Even the most drunk of fans usually don't say stuff like this. I came back for good discussion. All I want out of this board. I didn't expect it to be like this though haha.....

[rmcjacket23]

I honestly think he's trolling. Even the most drunk of fans usually don't say stuff like this. I came back for good discussion. All I want out of this board. I didn't expect it to be like this though haha.....

Its hit or miss.

 

Once you're here long enough, you can sort of spot the threads and discussions and where they are headed. The Tyrod discussion hasn't been as bad recently, it actually was fine this season.

 

Last season, during the 22 INT campaign, it was a popular daily discussion (using the term discussion loosely in this case).

[omar586]

I don't see us being a good team next year. 

Our pass rush WILL take a hit with the departures of Mcphee and the age of doom and sizzle

Our offense will take a big hit without Kubiak and the guys mentioned that are available are going to set us back

Steve smith won't be the same

We have no reliable all-round tight end ( gilmore just isn't a receiving threat)

torrey is torrey …he's still useful but don't think we should keep him

We haven't got the capspace to have a difference maker to overcome these things…I'm sorry but cecil shorts is a joke and if thats what we are going into next year( like some of you are recommending) then you aren't serious.

 

The positives?

 

Our secondary should be better

Our O line should be steady.

 

 

thats about it.

 

unless ozzie hits a home run in the draft and i MEAN a home run. Not just a couple of good players but a superstar in the making thats already an elite talent ( e.g. ODB)

what?

 

 

 

we were 1 TD away from SB, dude.

[Cville-Raven]

what?

 

 

 

we were 1 TD away from SB, dude.

We could actually be playing in the SB and it still wouldn't matter. This thread would still be made.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

We could actually be playing in the SB and it still wouldn't matter. This thread would still be made.

We could win the SB for years in a row... And this thread would still be made if we didn't win the games in blowouts

[Pirate88]

I don't see us being a good team next year.

Our pass rush WILL take a hit with the departures of Mcphee and the age of doom and sizzle

Our offense will take a big hit without Kubiak and the guys mentioned that are available are going to set us back

Steve smith won't be the same

We have no reliable all-round tight end ( gilmore just isn't a receiving threat)

torrey is torrey …he's still useful but don't think we should keep him

We haven't got the capspace to have a difference maker to overcome these things…I'm sorry but cecil shorts is a joke and if thats what we are going into next year( like some of you are recommending) then you aren't serious.

The positives?

Our secondary should be better

Our O line should be steady.

thats about it.

unless ozzie hits a home run in the draft and i MEAN a home run. Not just a couple of good players but a superstar in the making thats already an elite talent ( e.g. ODB)

OK guys Sami has some very valid points here HOWEVER there's more good than bad. AND there are solutions to the teams concerns. The Cap space will be ok once NGata is restructured at a slight pay cut. Also Webb is going to not only restructure but he will get a significant pay cut. He knows he won't be worth much on the open market after the injuries he had. That's at least $10-12 mil in cap space alone. Then Flacco could have some $$ moved around as well. Then there's a couple players who could be cut or retire so capspace isn't a concern.

First let me say Mcphee isn't a special player. He is a good player but very replaceable. Doom n Sizzle are getting older yes but I think rush LB will be addressed early in a deep Edge rusher draft. We are a hard working team with a winning atmosphere that is contagious and promotes swagger and work ethic. This means we can grab a talented Rush OLB or DE that is underperforming on a bad losing team that promotes his bad work ethic and lack of confidence and underperforming. Many defensive stars have left the Ravens and underperformed for their new team like ellerbe. Well same thing can work in our favor by identifying talented but underperforming and out of shape players with bad low confidence and work ethic and bringing them into our confident winning structure and hard work habits. Players I like that fit that bill are Daquan Bowers and Derrick Morgan. Both will be cheaper than Mcphee and have raw talent. Bowers could be an elite De or OLB if he got in shape again and was on a winning confident team with a great work ethic while surrounding him with other talented players. If he got in top condition Bowers could be a beast with our big dominant DLine freeing him up. Yet we could get him for $1mil. Same with Morgan. Mcphee will cash in. Let him go we can replace him far cheaper. And Bowers if challenged and pushed to succeed by Harbs could fulfill his potential.

I also agree our weapons are a little raggedy. Gilmore can block and has hands but it takes more than hands to be a real receiving threat. He is a fine #2TE and blocking TE but anybody thinking he is going to take our offense to the next level is kidding and lying to themselves. As is anybody who thinks there is a chance Pitta if pitta returns at all will be a real receiving TE after 2 major hip surgeries and 30 yrs old. Ravens need to make other plans.SS should retire rather than play til he embarrasses himself.I have doubts he will be #1-2wr next year or get our offense to next level. Not saying he definitely won't be as good but He was already struggling at times and will be going on 37. I wouldn't mind him coming back just not count on him to definitely be a legit #1 or top shelf #2 but I wouldn't bet the success of the offense that he is still an elite WR. HOWEVER THERE IS EVEN BETTER SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM. Joe has proven if he has a good OLine that he can help WRs and TEs perform to their max and then some. Like some of the elite QBs do. Good news is free agency is loaded with very talented WRs and TEs who have underperformed due to terrible and sub par QB play which causes them to be undervalued. Even better news is these players will have career years in our offense catching from Joe Cool 2.0, Having Joe will be a luxury to these pass catchers after dealing with terrible QBs!! Gresham has similar size/talent to Gronk. An overrated QB has held him back just like AJ Green is being held back by Daulton. Gresham will be a steal. Same can be said for Vernon Davis. He hasn't clicked well with Kaepernick. He actually played far better with Alex Smith. Same can be said for his teammate Crabtree. Although he has clicked better with kaepernick and Kaepernick has a strong fairly accurate arm, but Kaepernicks timing, reads,anticipation and mechanics have been sub par and even terrible this year and really hurt his targets. The value of both players are bad right now and would welcome a chance to play with Joe who made #3-4 undrafted WRs look above serviceable. What would Joe do with legit top talent TEs and complete WRs that attack the football. Rob Housler is as talented as Jordan Cameron or more but has suffered through terrible QB play. Housler is AWESOME!! OVER 6'5 AND 255 LBS HE Runs routes as fast and Sharp as a WR and his moves after the catch are rediculous for a TE nearly the size of Gronk!! Another breakout star in our offense. Same can be said for Kenny Britt whom would love to finally play with an elite QB!! Coaches and players alike say Britt has the talent identical to Julio Jones but just needs a competent QB. Randy Moss said he is going to be the biggest WR steal ever once he finds a team with a good qb. A complete WR!! Catches in crowds, sharp routes, deep speed and athleticism, and a great competitor who badly wants to be on a good team with a good qb and prove his talent!! He also lays crushing blocks. I just hope Oz, decosta and harbs recognizes these bargains and signs them to team with Joe. The potential is off the charts!! I like the FA WRs and TEs over the ones in draft. Only White Cooper and Parker are complete WRs. They will all go top 15 picks and the rest have questions about their speed or talent. Not like last yrs WRs. I know its easy to like Strong but show me any separation in his routes. I like the Free Agent pool better than draft this yr. Unless we trade up.

I hope the FO recognizes the bargains at WR, TE and the De/olb's that need to be pushed by strong coaching. I'm very disappointed letting a talent like Rolando go when he was about to focus and reach his potential. Hope they sign some of these TEs and WRs or even try to get Blackmon or Colt Lyerla focused. And if in peak shape and condition Bowers is an elite talent and was set to be the be the #1 pick in his draft class if not for knee concerns and gaining weight before the combine. I'm more disappointed about Rolando than the Elam bust. To let a top ilb slip through their fingers. Especially with Darry Smith aging. His play could fall off as well. I dont think it will but he is well over 30. I think he is 33 next year.They need to redeem themselves for letting Rolando go and find some WR/te bargains and find a bargain to replace mcphee who will cash in whether in FA or the draft. Like how they found Darryl Smith.

Ravens have a lot going. Will Hill is an all pro safety just ask giants fans who are furious bout cutting him. After an off season focusing on conditioning and weightroom and football instead of being suspended he could be the best all around safety in the NFL next year. He can do it all run cover play zone and the ball and big like a SS and athletic as A FS. We have the best guard tandem in the NFL and the best RT. If Monroe returns to a top 10 LT our offensive line is the best in the NFL. Our QB is elite and will help WRs we sign play at their optimal levels which will help us find some real bargains. Our DLine is as dominant and powerful as there is. We have one of the best shutdown Corners in the nfl returning and a very good speed corner returning in Jackson. I like Brooks but can't say he is a real good starter just yet but we should trust him and see that he gets coached up and works hard. If Arthur Brown bulks up he should be very good as well but there's bargains at ilb like Sean weatherspoon if they arent confident in Arthur Brown. But if he takes conditioning and nutrition seriously Darryl Smith has another good year in my opinion. And like I said our qb will allow us to sign some talented but undervalued WRs and TEs and allow them to have breakout seasons for us and play to their max. Our offensive possibilities are most exciting ever. Just don't believe it will be Brown Aiken or Shorts as part of it. Brown can contribute but I don't see him taking next step as a 1200 yard WR. He could but just not likely and would you bet the success of the offense on Brown/Aiken being a #1 or legit #2 Crabtree Britt Davis Gresham and Housler have shown it even with sub par QB play. Just my opinions. I think possibilities we can sign or draft are exciting. What do I know they could be terrible like Sami Says

[frozen joe flacco fan]

LOL, Pirate! You're even more verbose than me but I agree with most of your "State of the Ravens" address. I believe we are a legitimate #1 WR, a Gronk type TE, another big RB and a CB away from becoming an even better team than we were this year but until and unless we make major improvements to our Keystone Cop secondary we aren't going to get to the promised land. The defensive backfield stunk up a lot of fields this year and kept us from advancing to the AFC Championship Game, and, I have to believe making it to the SB again. The only reason they ( the D-backs) looked as good as they did in isolated games was due to the stellar play of our front seven. Granted, we had a patchwork quilt unit in there for most of the year but they didn't look that good prior to Jimmy Smith's injury IMO. The biggest setback so far is the loss of Gary Kubiak and the ripple effect that will result from his loss. The lack of continuity and stability at the OC and, frankly, the DC positions has been a major challenge to us making strides. Unfortunately, hiring mercenary former HCs like Kubiak and Trestman isn't the panacea. Cultivating and promoting coaches from within the organization is the long-term solution but that's easier said than done for a team with so little history as ours. I'll go out on a limb and say Gary Kubiak will be successful in Denver (with or without Peyton Manning) for a number of reasons but primarily because he has two decades of history with the Denver organization. With all due respect to Coaches Kubiak and Trestman, neither had the slightest idea what it means to "play like a Raven."     

[Tru11]

so we should go P in round 1 since we need to win the field position battle?

[Inqui]

so we should go P in round 1 since we need to win the field position battle?

Only if we trade up.

[Cville-Raven]

Only if we trade up.

Seems like a risk worth taking...

[sflegend89]

Total overreaction. Jimmy Smith coming back next year is just as good as a big name signing or "homerun" in the draft. He was playing like a top 5 CB when he went down and when you look at how well we did in the playoffs without him.. you can't help but wonder how far we could have gone with one of the best man cover corners in the game.. 

 

The offense scored plenty in NE, the biggest issue on defense was Melvin's inexperience where he got exposed on those gadget type plays that ended up being game changers for NE. I think Melvin has a bright future with us but there's no way you can expect him to play fundamentally sound football for 60 minutes in that type of a game, with the amount of experience that he had. Even without Jimmy that game takes on some very shady circumstances considering the recent findings. 

[allblackraven]

Seems like a risk worth taking...

 

Too early. JK Scott likely to be eligible in 2017

[Inqui]

Total overreaction. Jimmy Smith coming back next year is just as good as a big name signing or "homerun" in the draft. He was playing like a top 5 CB when he went down and when you look at how well we did in the playoffs without him.. you can't help but wonder how far we could have gone with one of the best man cover corners in the game.. 

 

The offense scored plenty in NE, the biggest issue on defense was Melvin's inexperience where he got exposed on those gadget type plays that ended up being game changers for NE. I think Melvin has a bright future with us but there's no way you can expect him to play fundamentally sound football for 60 minutes in that type of a game, with the amount of experience that he had. Even without Jimmy that game takes on some very shady circumstances considering the recent findings. 

Look who the OP is. That should answer your question right there.

[1/28/01]

Fine. Crash for Cook (Connor).

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Fine. Crash for Cook (Connor).

No Hacking for Hackenberg?

[Inqui]

Fine. Crash for Cook (Connor).

I'd still prefer to reunite Urban Meyer and Tim Tebow.

[Bruce_Almty]

I don't see us being a good team next year. 

 

 

This is not the Redskins site Sami; you'd be better off cutting and pasting your comment there.

[Tiz]

John Harbaugh always finds a way, I mean we did go to the playoffs and win at Pitt with 19 on the injury reserve

So glorious. Went in there and threw an entirely new game plan at them.

[jimjim5]

THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!

 

 

 

I was looking for a gif to post the same. Ha!

 

If we shore up the CB, TE, and RB positions we should be just fine.

[Tru11]

kyle loomis seems like the top P in the draft.

 

we should take him in round 1 just to be save.

[HoldingCall]

I always felt the team should be better in 2015 than this past 2014 season due to all the new faces having time to adjust to each other. However, I did not assume Kubiak and other coaches would leave. Given that, I believe the strength of the team will depend on the success of the OL and DL and MAY not be overly affected by Kubiac's departure. If those two maintain dominance, next season COULD be highly successful.

 

Since there are so many variables, I never get into the guessing game as to how a season will go. Besides, it's more fun being impressed by success than disappointed by expectations.