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Updated: Ravens roster dead weight - Cody cut

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Not cutting Brown or Elam.  Brown will be the starting backer beside Mosley not next year but the year after.  Elam, I mean, just let him ride out his rookie deal and see if he gets better.  No point cutting him after 2 seasons.

lolol brown start in the middle with mosley? lolol

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lol wut? plz tell me this was a joke post..

 

So you think the Ravens drafted a LB in the 2nd round 2 years ago without having a plan for him? Sometimes you draft guys to develop them. He's 24 years old heading into his 3rd year so there is a lot of promise. Also, there would be no benefit at all to cutting him, so no, this is not a joke post ... 

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Firstly, Arthur Brown was drafted as an outside linebacker. He's not gonna be on the inside with Mosley, ever. IF, and thats a big if, he stays on this team ,he'll be very limited, mostly special teams. He just doesnt have what it takes to start in the NFL. We will pick up a free agent once the Daryl Smith days are over. Secondly, we need to cut both Jacoby and Torrey and pick up Cobb, whos a young talent that can take both their jobs. Lastly, we shoulda took DJ Swearinger over Matt Elam. Ozzie has been slacking recently in drafts (except mosley). We have A LOT of dead weight this off season.. KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

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Firstly, Arthur Brown was drafted as an outside linebacker. He's not gonna be on the inside with Mosley, ever. IF, and thats a big if, he stays on this team ,he'll be very limited, mostly special teams. He just doesnt have what it takes to start in the NFL. We will pick up a free agent once the Daryl Smith days are over. Secondly, we need to cut both Jacoby and Torrey and pick up Cobb, whos a young talent that can take both their jobs. Lastly, we shoulda took DJ Swearinger over Matt Elam. Ozzie has been slacking recently in drafts (except mosley). We have A LOT of dead weight this off season.. KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

Last years draft may well turn out to be the best we have ever had! Although he'd be a great pick up there is no way Cobb gets let out of GB.

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I am to the point where I feel we can let Jacby go.

He is a fun guy but on field just itsnt the threat he once was.

Ozzie must hate this time of year. I know I would.

 

Jacoby didn't have as exceptional a return year. We could have used him in the pats game and he wasn't able to break one off.

 

Fact is, he wasn't used much in the passing game either and of all our receivers he is the 1 guy that can leave a corner flat footed on a move and fly route.  Not sure why he wasn't utilized that way, other than Kubiak decided to focus more on the running game.

 

Still think Jacoby has game. Kubiak is gone now, but sure would like to retain Kubiak's system, but would also like to give Jacoby another year as a game breaker. Everyone has an opinion.

 

We need to shore up our secondary as a critical first need.

 

Elam is expendable. He never fit the mold physically or skill wise and now he is struggling. In that context, don't foresee the kind of improvement some are holding out hope for.  You can't put Elam in the game, because you can't count on him.  He was supposed to be a preeminent tackler.  We let the team leader in tackles go and put Elam in his place and the results speak for themselves.

 

Jah Reid is an unknown here, but the fact is we've found some offensive line gems and they've leap frogged Reid.

 

You can never have too many big interior defensive linemen. They expend huge amounts of energy in that battle and you need to keep them fresh. Will let the coaches decide Cody's value, granting he has not been able to stay healthy.

 

Tyrod Taylor is languishing here. In the right offense he could be dynamic. Actually believe we can win in a pinch with him provided he has matured. He's come into games in ridiculous spots. Suppose its a matter of money, but would like to keep him if possible.

 

Monroe is under contract and has a cap hit but always believed he was a manufactured crisis move.  That big kid can more than fill his shoes, but its always good to have options and back ups.

 

Will have to make roster room with draft picks coming on, but am not sure the personnel generally pointed to in this discussion as replaceable, will in fact be replaced.

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Firstly, Arthur Brown was drafted as an outside linebacker. He's not gonna be on the inside with Mosley, ever. IF, and thats a big if, he stays on this team ,he'll be very limited, mostly special teams. He just doesnt have what it takes to start in the NFL. We will pick up a free agent once the Daryl Smith days are over. Secondly, we need to cut both Jacoby and Torrey and pick up Cobb, whos a young talent that can take both their jobs. Lastly, we shoulda took DJ Swearinger over Matt Elam. Ozzie has been slacking recently in drafts (except mosley). We have A LOT of dead weight this off season.. KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

Hilarious, considering Arthur Brown is an inside linebacker...

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Firstly, Arthur Brown was drafted as an outside linebacker. He's not gonna be on the inside with Mosley, ever. IF, and thats a big if, he stays on this team ,he'll be very limited, mostly special teams. He just doesnt have what it takes to start in the NFL. We will pick up a free agent once the Daryl Smith days are over. Secondly, we need to cut both Jacoby and Torrey and pick up Cobb, whos a young talent that can take both their jobs. Lastly, we shoulda took DJ Swearinger over Matt Elam. Ozzie has been slacking recently in drafts (except mosley). We have A LOT of dead weight this off season.. KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

 

Knowledge? More like an uninformed opinion with little basis in fact. 

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Firstly, Arthur Brown was drafted as an outside linebacker. He's not gonna be on the inside with Mosley, ever. IF, and thats a big if, he stays on this team ,he'll be very limited, mostly special teams. He just doesnt have what it takes to start in the NFL. We will pick up a free agent once the Daryl Smith days are over. Secondly, we need to cut both Jacoby and Torrey and pick up Cobb, whos a young talent that can take both their jobs. Lastly, we shoulda took DJ Swearinger over Matt Elam. Ozzie has been slacking recently in drafts (except mosley). We have A LOT of dead weight this off season.. KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

Yes, Brown is an inside linebacker lol.  In regards to the special teams stuff he was inactive so many games because he's not that good on special teams.  Reasons why Albert McClelan and Zach Orr would play over him.  Yea Elam has been a dud but I'd like to see what Brooks brings to the table, looked good before he got hurt and is very versatile.  I think Oz has lacked on finding us a long term receiver, but outside that his drafting has been amazing the past couple years. 

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Not only is there a negative impact from releasing Elam, his base salary is guaranteed, so not only would they take on excess Cap space to release him, they'd also still have to pay him his salary too.

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i havent lost faith in elam yet, imo i have seen enough to believe he just might end up ok. 

 

terrence cody is long gone, the single biggest disappointment i have seen on this team, i wanted us to draft him and i was so pumped about finally having a true NT, but it turns out every pound he carried around was fat, dude is just fat and bones, the single softest player on our defense, at 340+ lbs he gets pancaked on every single play that he is involved in, he holds a special place in my heart when speaking of disappointments. 

 

jah reid is still alive? 

 

cut jacoby after june 1st, he was a hero for 3 plays, 2 years ago, but he has proven that he is just god awful and makes horrible decisions on a regular basis, love jacoby as a person, and would love to have him on the team in some way, but its a painful move that will have to be made, dont we save like 2m by cutting him after june 1st? no brainer. 

 

im in the crowd who believe arthur brown just hasnt had a roster spot all year because cj was taking the spot that wouldve been his, and is being groomed to take over daryl smiths spot, and when that day comes, arthur brown steps in for cj's old spot, we have enough beef up front to have undersized ILB's, mosley is a stud in the run game and he is heady enough to keep brown doing the right things, and arthur brown is a potential stud in coverage, i see no reason he cant be a solid ILB with our current front seven

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Jacoby Jones is doing something that any rookie DB or WR can do....except the rookies secure the football better.

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Jacoby Jones is doing something that any rookie DB or WR can do....except the rookies secure the football better.

I know he hasn't been himself last season; however, JJ was rated as one of top 5 KR this season in avg yards.  So either way, he's still producing at the highest level in comparison to the rest.

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Firstly, Arthur Brown was drafted as an outside linebacker. He's not gonna be on the inside with Mosley, ever. IF, and thats a big if, he stays on this team ,he'll be very limited, mostly special teams. He just doesnt have what it takes to start in the NFL. We will pick up a free agent once the Daryl Smith days are over. Secondly, we need to cut both Jacoby and Torrey and pick up Cobb, whos a young talent that can take both their jobs. Lastly, we shoulda took DJ Swearinger over Matt Elam. Ozzie has been slacking recently in drafts (except mosley). We have A LOT of dead weight this off season.. KNOWLEDGE DROPPED.

what knowledge was dropped? are you serious? arthur brown was a MLB in a 4-3, OLB in the 4-3 is essentially the same position as the coverage ILB in a 3-4 except you have a bigger zone, which is fine because arthur brown is an absolute speed freak for a ILB. 

 

also, you cant just go ahead and cut a guy who's contract already ran out, torrey cant be cut, so we stand to free up no cap space with that one, and you also cant just go ahead and sign any FA you want just because you didnt re-sign your current FA's, randall cobb will never fit under our salary cap and you can be the FO isnt even considering it, and you can bet the packers arent willing to let him easily walk out. 

 

also, one first round pick hasnt panned out in the past few years so ozzie is slacking? what about brandon williams, kyle juszczyk, rick wagner(top 5 RT in the league picked in the 5th round a year ago), mosley, jernigan, possibly terrence brooks, and campanaro in the SEVENTH round, thats 5 starters and straight up studs, and 2 extremely promising players, plus another promising player in arthur brown who has been inactive for pretty obvious reasons. 

 

so because arthur brown hasnt been named a starter and because elam has disappointed, you suddenly think ozzie has had terrible drafts lately? 2014 could compete with 2008 for ozzies 2nd best draft ever, and 2013 is just a tier below that. what are you saying...

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This should surprise no one.  I don't think he played a down after coming off of PUP.

Odd to see an announcement like that, though.

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Agreed and why the need to wait after the Superbowl?  What do they gain by waiting?

 

 

Odd to see an announcement like that, though.

 

Both true, his contract expires anyway. Did he get into trouble?

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Both true, his contract expires anyway. Did he get into trouble?

 

Nothing on the Google about any trouble.  Plus if he got in trouble, I would suspect they would have cut him immediately.

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I know he hasn't been himself last season; however, JJ was rated as one of top 5 KR this season in avg yards.  So either way, he's still producing at the highest level in comparison to the rest.

 

Because he brings the ball out of the back on the endzone. He only gets to the 10-15 yard line but count those 8 yards of Endzone territory and you got your 20-25 yards avg 

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the ravens proved that every roster spot is important  as they are able to find contributors such as guy lawrence(this guy is only 24) and Rashaan Melvin off the street or other teams practice squad. below are what i believe to be wasted roster spots that could be use for other contributors.

 

 

obvious choices:

Terrence Cody - this guy was a bust 2nd round pick. he could never stay on his feet and it looks like from the pictures of him that he has put on a lot of weight.

 

Jah Reid - i never did get why they kept this guy. i assumed he had pictures.

 

Tyrod Taylor - if flacco ever went down tyrod was not going to be able to maintain the season. last year houston and cleveland picked qb's off the street that played better then trod who has a been there for 4 years.

 

a little more difficult choices;

Jacoby Jones - did you see how he carried the ball away from his body in the pats game. his break away speed seems to be gone and he can't catch a cold. thanks for the memoires.

 

Matt Elam - cut your losses. this guy can't tackle and seems immature. 1st rounder or not you should be able to find someone better off the street. during the pats game i was yelling that they should have cut elam at halftime.

 

the i don't get it choice;

 

arthur brown - i think this guy may be able to contribute if he got the chance but if you aren't going to play him then get rid of him and find someone else who can contribute.

Elam still, at the worst, offers special teams contribution. Is that what you want from a 1st rounder? No. But he would save next to nothing if we cut him, and he may yet improve. Same with brown. you can't bail on rookies after two years. Not even Oakland bailed on Jamarcus Russell or San Diego on Leaf after two years. Rookie contracts are cheap and unless you absolute have to have the roster space, it makes no sense to cut an even marginally talented guy on his rookie contract. Elam will likely be around for at least 2 more years. 

 

Cody has been cut

Jones probably will get cut. I don't know why we signed him to the deal that we did in the first place.

Taylor is FA and I doubt he returns.

Reid is also a free agent and I doubt he returns

 

Well, looks like your problem is solved. 

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Both true, his contract expires anyway. Did he get into trouble?

 

 

Nothing on the Google about any trouble.  Plus if he got in trouble, I would suspect they would have cut him immediately.

 

 

I read somewhere he put on a lot of weight.

 

 

 

Aaron Wilson said on Twitter that Cody is facing allegations of animal cruelty.

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Any Ravens players who gets into trouble is an absolute idiot. They should know that there will be no leeway.

Cody was already gonna be gone anyway.

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