Updated: Ravens roster dead weight - Cody cut

[52N19]

the ravens proved that every roster spot is important  as they are able to find contributors such as guy lawrence(this guy is only 24) and Rashaan Melvin off the street or other teams practice squad. below are what i believe to be wasted roster spots that could be use for other contributors.

 

 

obvious choices:

Terrence Cody - this guy was a bust 2nd round pick. he could never stay on his feet and it looks like from the pictures of him that he has put on a lot of weight.

 

Jah Reid - i never did get why they kept this guy. i assumed he had pictures.

 

Tyrod Taylor - if flacco ever went down tyrod was not going to be able to maintain the season. last year houston and cleveland picked qb's off the street that played better then trod who has a been there for 4 years.

 

a little more difficult choices;

Jacoby Jones - did you see how he carried the ball away from his body in the pats game. his break away speed seems to be gone and he can't catch a cold. thanks for the memoires.

 

Matt Elam - cut your losses. this guy can't tackle and seems immature. 1st rounder or not you should be able to find someone better off the street. during the pats game i was yelling that they should have cut elam at halftime.

 

the i don't get it choice;

 

arthur brown - i think this guy may be able to contribute if he got the chance but if you aren't going to play him then get rid of him and find someone else who can contribute.

 

 

[Raven552]

Let Tyrod go.. I like what I saw from Wenning in pre-season. Time to start grooming him..

[Alaska Alaska!]

Cody and Reid are as good as gone

[Sunday QB]

Canty should retire. I am so upset with Elam, this guy can't tackle at all and after two years I do not see him improving any.

[Sunday QB]

One thing that must happen is to restructure Nata. if this isn't done then we have no CAP room. I would also restructure Webb.

[Alaska Alaska!]

One thing that must happen is to restructure Nata. if this isn't done then we have no CAP room. I would also restructure Webb.

More like if it isn't done then we will cut him

[Tru11]

im pretty sure the QBs Houston and Cleveland picked up actually went through a week of preparation in becoming the starter.

having the game plan build around you and practicing with the #1 is a lot different then taking snaps with the back ups lol.

 

im not saying tyrod could do better but to be fair he never had the offense game plan build around him and I doubt he took snaps from flacco running with the starters.

 

Jah reid could play guard and tackle and its why they kept him, with hurst and urschel he is as good as gone.

 

Cody well knows the system and since we lost 2 dliners for the season they kept him for depth, he will probably get a shot to earn a spot unless he wants more then veteran minimum.

 

Elam is a 1st rounder and he wont go anywhere since he is on a 4 year deal.

unless his 3rd season is as bad as this 1 , he will play out that contract.

 

You don't get rid of promising young player just because he cant unseat a veteran in his 2nd season.

chances are he could make the rotation this season and you never know when an injury occurs.

he will most likely play out his contract as well.

[Wildabeast88]

Canty should retire. I am so upset with Elam, this guy can't tackle at all and after two years I do not see him improving any.

It would cost more money to get if of him then keep him so its not a real option. Bury him on the depth chart is the only real answer

[TDubbs]

I believe the Ravens have a plan for Art Brown, we've had the luxury to spend time developing him quietly. He's not dead weight and it will be interesting to see him this offseason. 

[PeRK82]

the ravens proved that every roster spot is important  as they are able to find contributors such as guy lawrence(this guy is only 24) and Rashaan Melvin off the street or other teams practice squad. below are what i believe to be wasted roster spots that could be use for other contributors.

 

 

obvious choices:

Terrence Cody - this guy was a bust 2nd round pick. he could never stay on his feet and it looks like from the pictures of him that he has put on a lot of weight.

 

Jah Reid - i never did get why they kept this guy. i assumed he had pictures.

 

Tyrod Taylor - if flacco ever went down tyrod was not going to be able to maintain the season. last year houston and cleveland picked qb's off the street that played better then trod who has a been there for 4 years.

 

a little more difficult choices;

Jacoby Jones - did you see how he carried the ball away from his body in the pats game. his break away speed seems to be gone and he can't catch a cold. thanks for the memoires.

 

Matt Elam - cut your losses. this guy can't tackle and seems immature. 1st rounder or not you should be able to find someone better off the street. during the pats game i was yelling that they should have cut elam at halftime.

 

the i don't get it choice;

 

arthur brown - i think this guy may be able to contribute if he got the chance but if you aren't going to play him then get rid of him and find someone else who can contribute.

Agreed, but honestly, you are being way way too nice with you ELAM comment.

[hn68wb4]

you can go ahead and drop Elam off that list, the FO won't give up on a 1st rounder because he had a difficult season, it costs more to cut him than to keep him. By cutting Brown we save less than half a mill in cap, no reason to outright cut him

[rmw10]

This is mostly the obvious, with one unrealistic wish.  Cody, Reid, and Taylor are all free agents and you won't be seeing any of them back.  Jacoby will probably be cut.  Elam is wishful thinking since getting rid of him would have a negative impact on the cap.

[GrimCoconut]

I can see Reid back although I think it's unlikely.

[Pirate88]

Actually I agree with all the players to cut. One other name to consider to cut or trade is Eugene Monroe. He was the weakest link of a dominant OLine. Hurst played as well as him or better and he is undrafted. I would trade him or cut him if we can't trade him and replace him with Hurst or a rookie or free agent who doesn't have to be dominant but just technically sound and knows how to do his job. That is all Monroe is at best is solid but he was signed to be a dominant LT that can block edge rushers by himself. If he is only going to be solid then get somebody far cheaper to be solid and use that $$ on somebody like Crabtree, Britt, Housler, Gresham or even Vernon Davis or even a couple of those guys. Our biggest priority to retain is Will Hill by a mile!! Decent safety's are hard to find these days. Guys like Mcphee and Torrey are easily replaceable. Hill and Jimmy are the building blocks of the secondary. Hopefully Brooks makes a stride at FS and Webb takes a pay cut restructure and injury free and the secondary will be far better

Webb will take a significant pay cut restructure I'm sure

Although he was solid, his value on the market isn't much right now if we cut him. He would end up somewhere on a $1mil/1yr prove it deal.

[rmcjacket23]

Actually I agree with all the players to cut. One other name to consider to cut or trade is Eugene Monroe. He was the weakest link of a dominant OLine. Hurst played as well as him or better and he is undrafted. I would trade him or cut him if we can't trade him and replace him with Hurst or a rookie or free agent who doesn't have to be dominant but just technically sound and knows how to do his job. That is all Monroe is at best is solid but he was signed to be a dominant LT that can block edge rushers by himself. If he is only going to be solid then get somebody far cheaper to be solid and use that $$ on somebody like Crabtree, Britt, Housler, Gresham or even Vernon Davis or even a couple of those guys. Our biggest priority to retain is Will Hill by a mile!! Decent safety's are hard to find these days. Guys like Mcphee and Torrey are easily replaceable. Hill and Jimmy are the building blocks of the secondary. Hopefully Brooks makes a stride at FS and Webb takes a pay cut restructure and injury free and the secondary will be far better

Webb will take a significant pay cut restructure I'm sure

Although he was solid, his value on the market isn't much right now if we cut him. He would end up somewhere on a $1mil/1yr prove it deal.

Monroe was better than Hurst most of the time and isn't going anywhere.

[GrimCoconut]

Monroe is not getting cut or traded. The dead money would be absurd if we did that.

[Bltravens]

Not cutting Brown or Elam.  Brown will be the starting backer beside Mosley not next year but the year after.  Elam, I mean, just let him ride out his rookie deal and see if he gets better.  No point cutting him after 2 seasons.

[Pirate88]

If we trade him then the only $$ that counts is signing bonus $$ which we can spread out over several years. Now if we cut him his cap hit is similar to if he is on the team. Now "IF" he can play like he did in 2013 season our OLine is the best in the NFL!! No matter what they say about the cowboys OLine. Wagner Yanda Osemele all are arguably the best at their position. If Monroe turns back into a top10 LT that would be the best scenario but he was barely solid this year.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Drop Arthur Brown from your list.

Add Gino Gradkowski.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Drop Arthur Brown from your list.

Add Gino Gradkowski.

Gino's and Jah Reid = lvps.

I can't believe the amount of TIME put into these players for basically worse than nothing.

When you have players this bad, please give them the oniel cousins treatment. They are better off experimenting with another team.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Terrence Cody - this guy was a bust 2nd round pick. he could never stay on his feet and it looks like from the pictures of him that he has put on a lot of weight.

 

Jah Reid - he's as good as gone they tried to develop him and they've gone as far as they could.  He has little value except that he can play any (although poorly) any position on the O-line.

 

Tyrod Taylor - If he takes a cap friendly deal or some other team doesn't ovdervalue him then he might very well stay.

 

Jacoby Jones - Jones had one decent season here - the Super Bowl Season. It seems he took a backslide after that and DWTS.  He's essentially an expensive KR right now.  Let him go and sign Eddie Royal or Brandon lloyd on the cheap.

 

Matt Elam - He'll stay and will eventually be last on the depth chart at this rate.  They don't give up on their high draft picks this early without cause - though, I'm for changing that just for him.

 

Arthur Brown - Like Elam they won't let him go until 1) they find a trade partner for him or 2) 2016 when his rookie deal expires.

[K-Dog]

I am to the point where I feel we can let Jacby go.

He is a fun guy but on field just itsnt the threat he once was.

Ozzie must hate this time of year. I know I would.

[rmcjacket23]

If we trade him then the only $$ that counts is signing bonus $$ which we can spread out over several years. Now if we cut him his cap hit is similar to if he is on the team. Now "IF" he can play like he did in 2013 season our OLine is the best in the NFL!! No matter what they say about the cowboys OLine. Wagner Yanda Osemele all are arguably the best at their position. If Monroe turns back into a top10 LT that would be the best scenario but he was barely solid this year.

No, you can't spread out the signing bonus money over multiple seasons when the player isn't playing for you anymore. If you cut him or trade him, that salary cap hit becomes effective immediately.

 

Basically, it would cost us over $8M in 2015 against the cap if we traded him, and releasing him isn't realistic, so that's not even a consideration. His cap hit isn't "similar" where he plays or not... he counts $7.7M against the cap if he's here, and $14.3M against the cap if he's cut. That's close to double, so not similar at all.

 

Monroe's cap hit would actually INCREASE in 2015 by trading him.

 

In short, outside of injury, he's the starting LT for this team in 2015.

[Dfence4champs2052]

the ravens proved that every roster spot is important  as they are able to find contributors such as guy lawrence(this guy is only 24) and Rashaan Melvin off the street or other teams practice squad. below are what i believe to be wasted roster spots that could be use for other contributors.

 

 

obvious choices:

Terrence Cody - this guy was a bust 2nd round pick. he could never stay on his feet and it looks like from the pictures of him that he has put on a lot of weight.

 

Jah Reid - i never did get why they kept this guy. i assumed he had pictures.

 

Tyrod Taylor - if flacco ever went down tyrod was not going to be able to maintain the season. last year houston and cleveland picked qb's off the street that played better then trod who has a been there for 4 years.

 

a little more difficult choices;

Jacoby Jones - did you see how he carried the ball away from his body in the pats game. his break away speed seems to be gone and he can't catch a cold. thanks for the memoires.

 

Matt Elam - cut your losses. this guy can't tackle and seems immature. 1st rounder or not you should be able to find someone better off the street. during the pats game i was yelling that they should have cut elam at halftime.

 

the i don't get it choice;

 

arthur brown - i think this guy may be able to contribute if he got the chance but if you aren't going to play him then get rid of him and find someone else who can contribute.

I have no problem with any of these...and I posted in the game day thread last week Jacoby was carrying ball like a loaf of bread yet again flirting with disaster. Arthur Brown contributes on special teams, but I agree it baffles me how they've used him.

[JohnnyBoy8102]

There is no way Arthur Brown is let go. Daryl Smith is playing well but will be 33 years old next season. 

 

I still want to see Brown/Mosley on the inside in the near future. 

[Militant X 1]

I want Tyrod to leave Baltimore and go somewhere, so I can see what becomes of him in a better situation than being our "super" Joe's back up.  Joe is so durable (and that is awesome) that no backup will get any significant playing time.  Test the waters Tyrod!

[GrimCoconut]

I want Tyrod to leave Baltimore and go somewhere, so I can see what becomes of him in a better situation than being our "super" Joe's back up. Joe is so durable (and that is awesome) that no backup will get any significant playing time. Test the waters Tyrod!

I agree. I'd like to see him go somewhere and compete. Maybe he gets signed by the Broncos if Kubiak goes there lol.

[Militant X 1]

I agree. I'd like to see him go somewhere and compete. Maybe he gets signed by the Broncos if Kubiak goes there lol.

 

You never know.  Lol!  To me, the reality is that because Joe Flacco is so tuff and durable....no backup QB will get opportunities for significant (not garbage) playing time.  4 years of pine riding is enough for Tyrod I think.

[jdynamite]

Actually I agree with all the players to cut. One other name to consider to cut or trade is Eugene Monroe. He was the weakest link of a dominant OLine. Hurst played as well as him or better and he is undrafted. I would trade him or cut him if we can't trade him and replace him with Hurst or a rookie or free agent who doesn't have to be dominant but just technically sound and knows how to do his job. That is all Monroe is at best is solid but he was signed to be a dominant LT that can block edge rushers by himself. If he is only going to be solid then get somebody far cheaper to be solid and use that $$ on somebody like Crabtree, Britt, Housler, Gresham or even Vernon Davis or even a couple of those guys. Our biggest priority to retain is Will Hill by a mile!! Decent safety's are hard to find these days. Guys like Mcphee and Torrey are easily replaceable. Hill and Jimmy are the building blocks of the secondary. Hopefully Brooks makes a stride at FS and Webb takes a pay cut restructure and injury free and the secondary will be far better

Webb will take a significant pay cut restructure I'm sure

Although he was solid, his value on the market isn't much right now if we cut him. He would end up somewhere on a $1mil/1yr prove it deal.

Monroe and hurst play not even close. Hurst played well, and we tend to overblow because he was undrafted. when hurst is out there alignments alter to give him extra help to prevent sacks ( because of after that steeler game when Harrison mauled that kid from opening snap after being on his couch the previous week. ).

Monroe just signed a new contract, I don't know exact details of his deal but I'm sure it wouldn't be favorable to the salary cap to cut him, Trading him could be feasible If there is a trading partner willing to take on the salary and give us something draft picks in return ( not sure what team would fit that mold)

Well to spend the money on Crabtree, Britt, Gresham V.Davis. Crabtree hasn't been reliable for most of his career, Britt only shows flashes the team could have made a play for Britt at anytime last year and didn't. Gresham has been ok, but nothing like expected coming out of college not the receiving threat he should have been, but a good pro. v.Davia although aging would be a nice pick up because he plays tough and hard doesn't mind blocking but I doubt he takes that type of pay cut to come here instead of staying with 49ers.

[FlackAttack]

I believe the Ravens have a plan for Art Brown, we've had the luxury to spend time developing him quietly. He's not dead weight and it will be interesting to see him this offseason. 

lol wut? plz tell me this was a joke post..