FAs to Consider: WRs and TEs

[Moderator 3]

The thread explosion and merges are getting difficult to follow. Let's try to organize these discussions by position groups, at least.

[Static]

Demariyus Thomas interests me but after watching him stand around and fail to block for C.J Anderson I have questions about his heart. 

 

But I think its time to get some dang size in the receiving core. 

[platinumxx2]

Brian Hartline (6'2, 200 lbs, Age 28, Miami) is a potential cap casualty with a cap figure of about $6M. He was phased out of their offence this year, primarily due to the emergence of Jarvis Landry. Prior to this down year, he produced two 1,000+ yard seasons. He isn't a burner - but is extremely reliable in the intermediate part of the field. This signing also fits the MO of not counting towards comp picks.

[rmw10]

Cecil Shorts intrigues me if Torrey walks.  He had an injury riddled year, but prior to that, he was pretty much the lone bright spot on an awful Jaguars team.  He had some drop issues this year but never really developed consistency with the injury problems.

[Inqui]

Before anyone asks, we're not touching Dez Bryant, Randall Cobb or Demariyus Thomas. Even if they (somehow) don't get retained by their own teams, they'll be way too expensive on the open market. Even Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson are close to complete pipe dreams.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Hakeem Nicks used to be one of my favorite WRs coming out of UNC. Fast physical and had the looks of a true #1 WR for the NYG. He has seemingly been on the decline, but if he is given a shot at a starting role again and is motivated enough he could rebound back to the beast that he was just a few yrs ago. I doubt the Colts resign him due to the fact that he was demoted in a deep receiving corps in Indy. If we could get anything close to how he was in NY we could have a potential steal on our hands. Don't see any type of market for him, if Torrey walks I'd give Nicks a call.

[RavensFanMania]

Stay away from Nicks. He takes too many plays off and is an awful route runner.

[KDUBB44]

trade for ODB

[Pirate88]

Cinci has Marvin Jones returning and are looking to draft a WR early. They could be willing to trade Sanu. Sanu is a phenomenal talent with a similar game of Boldin but he is younger faster n more athletic than Boldin. He is 6'2 nearly 220, he attacks the football blocks hard and is an intense competitor. The bungals want more from their #2wr and to nieve to see the prob is their $110mil QB and not the WRs. At times AJ Green even is questioned to be a true elite WR in the category of Calvin and Dez. 2 great WRs, 2 Round1 TEs and a great receiving RB underperforming and they have yet to figure out its the QB! Sanu could be a steal of a trade. I really think he would be dynamic with Joe in our offense. 1200 yards and 10+ TDs should be expected. Gresham is as talented as Gronk n Graham but is held back in cinci. He is reported to be in trade talk and not happy in cinci.At this point if Pitta can play at his peak it is a bonus. If Pitta does return Strong he n Gresham would be a lethal receiving blocking TE duo. Otherwise Gresham could be a great weapon in our offense and an absolute steal like his teammate Sanu. Out of the 2 I would definitely take Sanu however. He plays a lot like Dez Bryant. Would be a monster in our offense.

Sorry bout my typos mods. New here and rushing posts like a new toy.

[PurpleCity5]

Cinci has Marvin Jones returning and are looking to draft a WR early. They could be willing to trade Sanu. Sanu is a phenomenal talent with a similar game of Boldin but he is younger faster n more athletic than Boldin. He is 6'2 nearly 220, he attacks the football blocks hard and is an intense competitor. The bungals want more from their #2wr and to nieve to see the prob is their $110mil QB and not the WRs. At times AJ Green even is questioned to be a true elite WR in the category of Calvin and Dez. 2 great WRs, 2 Round1 TEs and a great receiving RB underperforming and they have yet to figure out its the QB! Sanu could be a steal of a trade. I really think he would be dynamic with Joe in our offense. 1200 yards and 10+ TDs should be expected. Gresham is as talented as Gronk n Graham but is held back in cinci. He is reported to be in trade talk and not happy in cinci.At this point if Pitta can play at his peak it is a bonus. If Pitta does return Strong he n Gresham would be a lethal receiving blocking TE duo. Otherwise Gresham could be a great weapon in our offense and an absolute steal like his teammate Sanu. Out of the 2 I would definitely take Sanu however. He plays a lot like Dez Bryant. Would be a monster in our offense.

Sorry bout my typos mods. New here and rushing posts like a new toy.

I don't Cinc would do that considering that they play in the same division as us, it seems unlikely that they would do that, I'd also rather see us draft a first round WR at this point. 

[Pirate88]

Since WRs take longer to develop into pro bowl players usually I'm for trading up to secure an explosive edge rushers and signing or trading for a young but polished and talented WR like Sanu or Marshall although Marshall is like 31 now. Because with Joe Cool and our Great OLine this offense is ready to roll in 2015. If they take a WR early let's be sure he can become a game changer by playoff time next yr. I still would like a #1 TE as well. Gilmore has great hands and a good blocker but we really missed that TE that threatens the seam like Pitta who may not be asas fast or talented as he was. Marshall at 31 could be a bargain as could Gresham whose price has declined in Cinci. Marshall would welcome an elite QB and shot at a ring! Torry stretching the field with Marshall and Gresham attacking the ball deep and in crowds and better chemistry with Campanaro and Marlon with our dominant OLine and our Offense is top3. Marshall n Gresham just couple of many offensive arsenals. Sanu is a very talented and underappreciated WR due to terrible QB play with similar talent of Dez Bryant .

[BmoreBird22]

Before anyone asks, we're not touching Dez Bryant, Randall Cobb or Demariyus Thomas. Even if they (somehow) don't get retained by their own teams, they'll be way too expensive on the open market. Even Larry Fitzgerald and Andre Johnson are close to complete pipe dreams.

I actually think Cobb is on the wish list that likely won't happen, but could happen. I think he'll fly under the radar, especially if Johnson and Fitz got cut.

[HomeoftheBRAVENS]

With Pitta's career being a huge question mark and Daniels being a free agent I think we should try to trade for Vernon Davis.I can think of a few pros(Kubiak and Joe possibly having both Pitta and Davis to work with in an offense thats built around having two quality TE's) and cons(the fact that we already have a big contract at that position) for this idea,but we need more fire power and athleticism in our passing game.Especially at the TE position.I'm hoping the ravens will atleast give the idea some serious consideration when they do their offseason meetings.

[baltimorefan328]

I'm just not really sure I'm willing to trust Davis and would rather sign a younger tight end or a guy who will have less salary cap. Theres some other decent to good receiving tight ends in this years free agency who I think Kubiak could really work with because we already have our blocking tight end. Davis has drop and concentration problems sometimes and yes he had an amazing 2013, but he had a terrible last season in 14 games and his 2012 season is something I think we could definitely get out of someone else. 

 

2012 Davis: 41 catches, 548 yards, 5 TDs

2014 Owen Daniels: 48 catches, 527 yards, 4 TDs

 

So I'm not saying I wouldnt take Davis if it was for very cheap trade, but I think we could draft or sign a solid receiving tight end threat that could give us similar production in a Kubiak style offense. Also I wouldn't sleep on Gilmore, he's not a huge receiving threat but he's got great hands and is a solid secondary receiving target to compliment a good, but not amazing, receiving tight end

[GrimCoconut]

I think Davis (SF) and Lewis (JAX) are both very legitimate possibilities and I wouldn't mind either. I think if Davis was inexplicably cut due to cap, we'd certainly be competing for his services. I think Davis would sign here, however, on a cheap one year deal. Before I get looks, I think he could see the benefit in going to Kubiak's system which produces numbers for TE. I think he would look like a superstar with Flacco and Kubiak and this OL and he knows it.

He also has a very legitimate chance at a Super Bowl title, which is also big. Patriots could be in the mix, too. I can even see Seattle since he might want revenge.

[Seseau]

How about Maclin? He interests me

[Pirate88]

Maclin would be aweome but I doubt Philly will let him hit the market. He has Torry Smith speed but a better route runner and will highpoint the football. Davis would be a huge pickup as well. I dont think Cinci picked up Gresham's option either.

Let me throw a name out there. Colt Lyerla. I know I know he has his demons but he is young and its not like he is using herone or crack. Many players had coke probs and cleaned up to go on great careers.

Let me say this bout Colt. Much like Gronk, People don't realize how fast and athletic and strong this dude is til they play him! He is a rare athlete and football player. Peeps think of gronk as a good athlete for his size and uses his size to box out DBs but once they play with or against him and witness him making acrobatic plays and flipping into the end zone lading on his head and neck players and coaches are starstruck realizing how great an athlete he is. Well Colt is an even better athlete! Josh Huff drafted in Round #3 n a teammate of Colt proclaimed him the best athlete and football player he ever played with or against! That's saying something. His stories of Colt are legendary. When Kyle Long was mentoring him on and off the field and in the weight room and practice field and had him focused Colt could play ANY position as well as that positions starters or better. Working with Kyle Long Colt was over 250 lbs and ripped! Huff said Colt could line up at safety or LB and cover him as well as any Corner or safety he played against and often could not get open on Colt as well as Colt could have layed cruching hits if he wanted to. He could line up at RB and fake out tacklers or drag them. As a TE Colt could blow past and burn Corners like any WR or out jump and out muscle any defender for the ball. If that's not impressive he said Colt could block Defensive lineman edge rushers as well as Kyle Long could! He and Kyle Long said if Colt Lyerla stays focused he will be the best player in the NFL.

His substance use is a correctable habit. Colt is smart just look at his SAT scores he just had no guidance. The ravens have great structure and coaching as well as great veteran leadership. Pitta could mentor Colt coach him up and be a big brother type as could many other Ravens. Owen Daniels is a very hard worker and worth bringing back to mentor Colt as could Pitta if he returns to the Ravens. The reward on Colt is worth investing time into mentoring him and coaching him up. There is no real risk because he won't cost a draft pick or big contract and the Ravens could have the best TE and one of best players in the NFL.

[Alaska Alaska!]

I think Davis (SF) and Lewis (JAX) are both very legitimate possibilities and I wouldn't mind either. I think if Davis was inexplicably cut due to cap, we'd certainly be competing for his services. I think Davis would sign here, however, on a cheap one year deal. Before I get looks, I think he could see the benefit in going to Kubiak's system which produces numbers for TE. I think he would look like a superstar with Flacco and Kubiak and this OL and he knows it.

He also has a very legitimate chance at a Super Bowl title, which is also big. Patriots could be in the mix, too. I can even see Seattle since he might want revenge.

Another benefit to getting Davis is that the Ravens are close to his hometown (although he's from Redskins Country). Hopefully the Pats keep their grubby little hands off of him

[Dfence4champs2052]

Cinci has Marvin Jones returning and are looking to draft a WR early. They could be willing to trade Sanu. Sanu is a phenomenal talent with a similar game of Boldin but he is younger faster n more athletic than Boldin. He is 6'2 nearly 220, he attacks the football blocks hard and is an intense competitor. The bungals want more from their #2wr and to nieve to see the prob is their $110mil QB and not the WRs. At times AJ Green even is questioned to be a true elite WR in the category of Calvin and Dez. 2 great WRs, 2 Round1 TEs and a great receiving RB underperforming and they have yet to figure out its the QB! Sanu could be a steal of a trade. I really think he would be dynamic with Joe in our offense. 1200 yards and 10+ TDs should be expected. Gresham is as talented as Gronk n Graham but is held back in cinci. He is reported to be in trade talk and not happy in cinci.At this point if Pitta can play at his peak it is a bonus. If Pitta does return Strong he n Gresham would be a lethal receiving blocking TE duo. Otherwise Gresham could be a great weapon in our offense and an absolute steal like his teammate Sanu. Out of the 2 I would definitely take Sanu however. He plays a lot like Dez Bryant. Would be a monster in our offense.

Sorry bout my typos mods. New here and rushing posts like a new toy.

I like this.....one of my former Scarlet Knights too! He's a solid WR with great size as this post states.

[Dfence4champs2052]

How about Maclin? He interests me

I wish, but he's getting PAID. He was the virtual WR version of Joe! He bet on himself and produced big time this season coming off knee surgery and showed he's an outright #1.

[Dfence4champs2052]

Stay away from Nicks. He takes too many plays off and is an awful route runner.

And wasn't he ALWAYS hurt in NY as well? Definite pass.

[Pirate88]

Yeah Maclin is getting paid for sure. Patsies won't be active in FA cuz they are trying to keep Revis and McCourty and some others. Davis would be cool but the bargain is Gresham who is not returning to Cinci and is undervalued due to terrible qb play and lack of focus in a losing undisciplined atmosphere in Cinci. Gresham would have a breakout season in the Raven offense. He has more raw talent than Pitta and Being on Ravens would ignite his competitiveness.

However the real prize at TE is signing Colt Lyerla and getting him straight and focused. He is a very rare athlete and football player. But If Ravens dont wannawanna go that route with Colt then they should snap up on Davis or Gresham or Cameron. But Gresham is the bargain. Similar skills to Gronk and Graham but under valued on a team with poor motivation and a terrible overrated QB. Cinci fans have verbally assaulted him and he would love to play here and shut the fans up and make them eat their words while proving he wasn't the problem.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Gotta love the offseason....

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Maclins staying in Philly. Don't think he'll get as big a pay day as you think - Desean wanted to get paid and Chip bet on the fact that it was his offense, not the player - and he was right. The eagles and chip will have that on their side and Maclin wants to stay in Philly.

Thomas, Cobb, and Dez ain't happenin. No cap room. The only "splash" or name I could even remotely see happening is Andre Johnson if he wants to reunite with Kubiak and have one last shot at a title. I'd actually like this - he and SS could rotate as our #1 to stay fresh.

Torrey will be resigned to a good value deal. I personally want him back. I think he knows his role and his value. We all get on him about not bein a "true #1" whatever that means... But dude knows he's not. And he can't argue he is. 1 season over 1,000 yds. This year in the 700's. Desean didn't break the bank last year an that was coming off 1,400 yd year. The league, the Ravens, the fans, and I guarantee you even Torrey are all on the same page as to who he is. A great deep threat who creates space. Potential to hit the home run, not consistent enough yet, but has added value in how he helps open up the middle and run game. He'll get a pay day but not as big as many think.

TE we might see something happen. But I think Davis is a pipe dream. Ladies and gents I think were OVER the cap right now or just slightly under and that's with only 41 players signed. Then we hope to keep McPhee, Torrey, and Forsett. Ain't gonna be much left for shoppin.

So I think that eliminates Vernon Davis unless the market for him crashes for some reason. Gresham I'd be interested in on the cheap. He kinda reminds me of Ed Dickson, only I believe he still could achieve his potential in the right situation.

But what we do at TE is all contingent upon what they really think of Pitta. If they're confident he returns and can play, they resign Daniels and roll with Gilmore as the 3rd. If Pitta is a big question mark I think they go with a younger option and cut bait with Daniels as they'll need someone who can step in and produce for 16 games. This is where I could see a Gresham pickup. If I recall I think they liked him and would've picked him had the bengals not taken him. And if someone can unlock his potential it's Kubes and this offense.

And there you have it folks. Best case scenerio or I guess biggest splash scenerio would be if Andre Johnson were to take a sweetheart 1 or 2 yr deal, resign Torrey to a reasonable and fair deal to both sides, and then either resigning Daniels or a younger upside player on the cheap like Gresham.

Outside of that I really wouldn't get your hopes up. Andre Johnson is our best bet at a "splash" pickup at the skill positions.

[Tru11]

People are under the impression there is no such thing as a CAP if I see the names they are bringing up lol.

[Ravenseconbeast]

Cecil Shorts intrigues me if Torrey walks. He had an injury riddled year, but prior to that, he was pretty much the lone bright spot on an awful Jaguars team. He had some drop issues this year but never really developed consistency with the injury problems.

Guys like that won't last in ravens uniform. Our receivers needs to take a beating and grab some tough catches. Cecil reminds me of Lee evans

[Alaska Alaska!]

I actually think Cobb is on the wish list that likely won't happen, but could happen. I think he'll fly under the radar, especially if Johnson and Fitz got cut.

After the game he had last Sunday?  No way he's under anyone's radar.

[BmoreBird22]

After the game he had last Sunday?  No way he's under anyone's radar.

If Dez, Demaryius, Julius, Fitz, Maclin, and Andre are out there as available pass catchers, do you really think Cobb will get much love? I mean, one of those receivers could be the Ravens gain because of deflated value

[berad]

Gresham I'd be interested in on the cheap. He kinda reminds me of Ed Dickson, only I believe he still could achieve his potential in the right situation.

I always throw Gresham's name out there because the FO loved him coming out of Oklahoma. It's been 5-6 years since then but he could still be productive. You're right, he's Ed Dickson with better hands but he did have some nagging injuries.

[baltimorefan328]

If Dez, Demaryius, Julius, Fitz, Maclin, and Andre are out there as available pass catchers, do you really think Cobb will get much love? I mean, one of those receivers could be the Ravens gain because of deflated value

The issue is what is the free agent market actually going to be. I'd say theres about a 1% chance Dez leaves Dallas, Andre will be 34 and had his lowest Yards per catch average since 2005, Fitz is also getting older plus both him and Andre are under contract and even if they are cut probably wouldnt take what the Ravens are willing to pay unless they believe in Kubiak and want the chance to win a championship. Julius is likely to get paid above what Ozzie would pay for a TE. That really leaves Maclin, who I am thinking will get a decent contract after that year and Cobb is not exactly the guy the fans have been calling for. He's a great WR but not really that big physical guy that people have wanted. As of right now I dont have a ton of confidence the Ravens go out and sign a wide receiver especially if they resign Torrey