Orioles

[ravens27]

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This works out perfectly. He sounds like he will fit in pretty good, he is old and has never had his era under 4.00

2009 Rotation

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[Michael]

Horrible signing. Didn't we learn something from Steve Trachsel this past season. I'd rather have Penn start then this bum.

[ROH522155]

ive been supporting macphail ever since he's been here saying that things are gonna get better but i just dont know how much more i can take its ridiculous. 11 years people. and we still havent gotten it right. i was 3 the last time we went to the playoffs and the last time we won a world series, it was 11 years before i was born.

the thing i like about the ravens is that i will always be able to say that i was alive to see everything that happened with the ravens

[ravens27]

[quote name='Michael' post='115076' date='Dec 30 2008, 10:10 PM']Horrible signing. Didn't we learn something from Steve Trachsel this past season. I'd rather have Penn start then this bum.[/quote]

I would like to see Penn start if he is healthy this season. From what I have heard his rehab went good and he can throw pretty good. I would like to see Penn start, Brad Bergesen, Tillman, and some more of our big prospects

[ROH522155]

[quote name='ravens27' post='115297' date='Dec 31 2008, 03:25 PM']I would like to see Penn start if he is healthy this season. From what I have heard his rehab went good and he can throw pretty good. I would like to see Penn start, Brad Bergesen, Tillman, and some more of our big prospects[/quote]


we dont wanna rush them like we did olson and liz

[Michael]

[quote name='ravensorioleshoyas522155' post='115330' date='Dec 31 2008, 03:59 PM']we dont wanna rush them like we did olson and liz[/quote]

I think Liz is going to step up this season. He looked decent last season, i think he is going to be one of our surprises year.

[ravens27]

[quote name='Michael' post='115368' date='Dec 31 2008, 05:02 PM']I think Liz is going to step up this season. He looked decent last season, i think he is going to be one of our surprises year.[/quote]

I think Liz has great potential. He has a great arm, but he needs to control his accuracy. If he can fix his accuracy and control I think he can be a great pitcher. In some sort of way he reminds me of a young Daniel Cabrera.

[ravens27]

[quote name='ravensorioleshoyas522155' post='115330' date='Dec 31 2008, 03:59 PM']we dont wanna rush them like we did olson and liz[/quote]

Thats true, but I think Hayden and Bergesen could be MLB ready for 09.