Merged: Brandon Marshall reportedly being traded to the Jets

[757RavensFan]

I didn't mean it like that. It's the top story on the Google news feed.

 

My apologies!!

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

Realistically, we would not be able to sign Marshall should he be cut by the Bears. There will be plenty of suitors and would most likely be out of our price range even without signing Torrey.

I think a more realistic option if the team wanted to bring Marshall to Baltimore would be via trade. The question is, what would you be willing to give up in order to lure him to the Ravens? We are rumored to have around 9 picks after being awarded compensatory draft picks. I don't think 9 rookies make the roster after we are done filling our roster via free agency and extensions. I don't think it would be a bad move to give up a couple mid round picks for Marshall. I can't remember off the top of my head what the Bears had to spend to get him from Miami.

I know this year proved more than any other year that depth is critical in the NFL and draft picks are valuable commodities. I just love the idea of having Marshall, Smith Sr., Campanaro, Brown, and Aiken at WR. This would also allow us to avoid having to take the gamble on drafting a WR high in the draft.

He's more out of our price range in a trade scenario unless it's a trade with an extension in place which I don't know if the ravens would be willing to do with an aging WR with a checkered past.

I think if there's any chance at all to get Marshall it'd be if he for some reason gets cut.

And on the bit about there being other suitors and that making it impossible for the ravens to sign him - I believe this came from Marshall via Twitter - but he said if he isn't playing for Chicago this coming season he only wants to play for Trestman.

That coupled with the conversations with Harbs, though playful and lighthearted, indicate Marshall having interest in playing for the ravens if he somehow gets cut. Other things equal or even close, I honestly believe Marshall would choose to sign with the ravens on the open market.

But I personally don't see it happening. Just can't see the bears parting ways with him when the cap savings aren't great and they aren't strapped for space by any means. Meaning I don't think the cap is any motivation for them to cut Marshall. If they do cut him it'd be purely based on the new coaching staff and GM wanting to go in a different direction.

Again, can't see a new coaching staff with expectations of winning right away wanting to part ties with such a productive weapon that has an established rapport with the QB they have to hitch their ride to.

Unless hes viewed as that big of a distraction I just can't see it happening - trade, cut or otherwise. And bc of that if he is cut I don't know that id want him.

Having Steve smith and Marshall in the same locker room might just be too much ego in one room. Both have reputations for becoming distant and frustrated when not getting the targets they want. Having 2 guys like that especially when our offense is becoming more diverse in trying to get marlon, Aiken, camp, juice and Crockett more reps there just won't be enough to go around to keep both SS Sr. and Marshall quiet and happy.

I can't say id be against getting Marshall, but id be very "cautiously optimistic" unless Steve smith is let go or retires.

[BOLDnPurPnBlacK]

I'm just tired of our FO signing veteran WRs during the offseason and then using it as an excuse to not draft a young stud WR. Flacco needs a young WR to build chemistry with, and so far Torrey Smith is the only receiver that has developed alongside Flacco for most of his career. I'd really like to see us draft a #1 franchise receiver in this draft.

I think the whole idea of developing a young wr with Joe is a bit overstated. Joe's not exactly young anymore. What he needs is a consistent go to guy that will be here for 4-5 years. He also needs a well rounded core of weapons, not just 1 guy.

I still think drafting a guy is preferable but not so they can grow and develop together. Joe's grown and developed. He's not "coming up" in the league anymore - he's here and established. I prefer drafting that guy because you can get 4-5 years of consistency without committing a lot of cap space.

He could really use that guy but finding him through FA will likely cost more than we can really afford to tie up in the position. For that reason, and that reason alone, the draft is probably the best route to go.

[GrimCoconut]

Having Steve smith and Marshall in the same locker room might just be too much ego in one room. Both have reputations for becoming distant and frustrated when not getting the targets they want. Having 2 guys like that especially when our offense is becoming more diverse in trying to get marlon, Aiken, camp, juice and Crockett more reps there just won't be enough to go around to keep both SS Sr. and Marshall quiet and happy.

I can't say id be against getting Marshall, but id be very "cautiously optimistic" unless Steve smith is let go or retires.

This is where I am concerned. I like both WRs but there's concern when you have two competitive guys in Marshall and Smith Sr who want the ball. I'm not sure how that will go, to be honest. I'm not being rhetorical either, I'm genuinely uncertain how those two would mesh here. They could be awesome and could be awful. 

 

Then again, you have to ask yourself if we would keep Smith Sr if we got Marshall? There's another question in itself, one nobody mentioned. It's entirely possible we could let go of Smith Sr if we landed Marshall. 

[rmw10]

This is where I am concerned. I like both WRs but there's concern when you have two competitive guys in Marshall and Smith Sr who want the ball. I'm not sure how that will go, to be honest. I'm not being rhetorical either, I'm genuinely uncertain how those two would mesh here. They could be awesome and could be awful. 

 

Then again, you have to ask yourself if we would keep Smith Sr if we got Marshall? There's another question in itself, one nobody mentioned. It's entirely possible we could let go of Smith Sr if we landed Marshall. 

 

I'm still very curious about Stevie since Ozzie told him to take 3 weeks, despite already announcing his intention to return.  I don't know if it means anything, but it's still interesting.

[GrimCoconut]

I'm still very curious about Stevie since Ozzie told him to take 3 weeks, despite already announcing his intention to return.  I don't know if it means anything, but it's still interesting.

Yeah. I'm trying not to read into that, but it's a really weird comment to come from Ozzie. Still, I'm just going to ignore it for now, lol. I'll wait until the SoR and then go from there. 

[ittwasntme]

If the option was in front of you what would you choose?

You've Seen the work of Torrey Smith over the years first hand However I feel like Brandon Marshall Has grown up in his years in the nfl and seems Like he has his head on his shoulders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD6hMGL0GHA

This Post is strictly hypothetical currently. But has to be a thought

[Inqui]

Marshall, easily. At least this is more of a question than the Julio Jones vs Torrey Smith thread a while back.

[ittwasntme]

Marshall, easily. At least this is more of a question than the Julio Jones vs Torrey Smith thread a while back.

Not sure Atlanta would ever part ways with Jones LOL they would be foolish

[Mt. Crushmore]

Marshall and it isn't close

 

Marshall, easily. At least this is more of a question than the Julio Jones vs Torrey Smith thread a while back.

 

Ah, the good ole days

[ellicottraven]

Come on now. Why not Torrey AND Marshall?

[ittwasntme]

Come on now. Why not Torrey AND Marshall?

Come on now. Why not Torrey AND Marshall?

the cap hits for both wouldn't be possible

[usmccharles]

This is where I am concerned. I like both WRs but there's concern when you have two competitive guys in Marshall and Smith Sr who want the ball. I'm not sure how that will go, to be honest. I'm not being rhetorical either, I'm genuinely uncertain how those two would mesh here. They could be awesome and could be awful. 

 

Then again, you have to ask yourself if we would keep Smith Sr if we got Marshall? There's another question in itself, one nobody mentioned. It's entirely possible we could let go of Smith Sr if we landed Marshall. 

Good call, i never even thought of that.  How much cap space would be created by that move?

[GrimCoconut]

Good call, i never even thought of that.  How much cap space would be created by that move?

We'd save approximately $1,833,330. 

[Gordo52]

That combo of Marshall and Smith Sr would be pretty nasty though.

[usmccharles]

We'd save approximately $1,833,330.

Not really worth it imo unless that was the deciding factor of bringing Marshall in

[GrimCoconut]

Not really worth it imo unless that was the deciding factor of bringing Marshall in

Yeah, I agree, it's chump change, but with how tight we are against the cap it could be a necessary move. I'd rather keep Smith Sr than cut him for 1.8M, but you never really know in my opinion. 

[PurpleCity5]

I love Torrey, but Marshall is a star WR here, maybe Super Star. 

[Purple_City39]

They wouldn't have to cut Smith Sr. in order to bring in Marshall.  The team has between 12-16M to be saved between Ngata, Jacoby, McClellan, Canty, and Koch.  Not to mention around another 5M to be saved if they can extend Jimmy and Yanda.  And finally another few million from Webb doing the right thing and taking a pay cut, although this one isn't a guarantee.

 

They could keep Smitty and sign Marshall fairly easy.  Nobody else they'll pick up with be bank breakers anyway.  If they do sign Brandon, I still hope they get another WR early in the draft.  Surround Joe with weapons.  They already hinted at Smitty not being a starter so we'll need another one if Torrey walks.  I'd be fine with Marlon but it really seems that the coaches aren't huge fans of him

[Daft Classic]

1) Keep S. Smith 

2)Give the Money we'd give to Torrey to Marshall

3) Draft Jalen Strong

4) 2015 offense is stupid good

5) Smith Retires for 2016, Still have Marshall and Strong

[Gordo52]

1) Keep S. Smith

2)Give the Money we'd give to Torrey to Marshall

3) Draft Jalen Strong

4) 2015 offense is stupid good

5) Smith Retires for 2016, Still have Marshall and Strong

Would absolutely love but I cannot see Ozzie making those type of power moves for WR's. Would be a welcome surprise though.

[Static]

No way Ozzie double dips at WR.

[Alexir]

If we even were to get Marshall (huge longshot), I would want to cut Steve Smith immediately. They would be hard to manage and would both whine about getting the ball.

[Purple_City39]

No way Ozzie double dips at WR.

In the draft or free agency?  Because he's done both.  If they don't resign Torrey then he has to double dip since Harbaugh indicated that Smitty won't be a starter, so we'll need two

[jackster]

Maybe you never heard of Rob Gronkowski.  You know, the guy who led the game in targets, receptions, and receiving yards and constantly had double coverage rolled his way, allowing Amendola and Edelman to have favorable 1 on 1 matchups against our patchwork secondary.  Or maybe you've never heard of Derrelle Revis and Brandon Browner, who shut down Steve and Torrey all game.

As a Patriot fan that was the game plan all day long, even in the SB. Sent Gronk down the seam, and have Amendola/Edelmen fill in the gaps just vacated. I think Brandon Marshall would be an awesome addition to your club...Or ours    You need a stud for the opposing defenses to focus on, and then your other receivers will be complements of him. But if your thinking that will be enough to beat us next year. It AINT happening if we lock up Revis!

[ravensnick]

If we even were to get Marshall (huge longshot), I would want to cut Steve Smith immediately. They would be hard to manage and would both whine about getting the ball.

Remember, Chad Ochocinco played with Terrell Owens.

[Tank 92]

 But if your thinking that will be enough to beat us next year. It AINT happening if we lock up Revis!

 

 

This is sarcasm, right?

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Remember, Chad Ochocinco played with Terrell Owens.

That was a disaster from what I remembered.

Steve and Marshall in the locker room scare me. But sounds like Marshall has reformed. Plus I think Steve knows that one of the guys who would actually be willing to fight back from his crap is Marshall. So I don't think it's too much of a problem. Neither have ego issues. They have anger issues. Which is potentially worse but could be awesome on the field

[Purple Punishment]

That was a disaster from what I remembered.

Steve and Marshall in the locker room scare me. But sounds like Marshall has reformed. Plus I think Steve knows that one of the guys who would actually be willing to fight back from his crap is Marshall. So I don't think it's too much of a problem. Neither have ego issues. They have anger issues. Which is potentially worse but could be awesome on the field

TO had over 900 yards that season. Wasn't really a disaster

[GrimCoconut]

Owens and 85 were very good friends, IIRC. That's how I remember it, anyway. I think Ocho asked for him to come there or something to that effect.