Merged: Brandon Marshall reportedly being traded to the Jets

[mdrsharon]

bottom line, he would be another threat, which we need.

let's see what happens...

[TDubbs]

The word for dez Bryant turned from diva to passionate after the Cowboys started winning.

Steve smith was a diva in Carolina and a passionate warrior in baltimore...

Give me a diva then, give me someone who shows he gives a damn. Joe will put them in line anyways.

 

That's a crucial element that I think many people miss. They want to label WR's like that without understanding the full picture. Those guys actually care and are passionate about winning and competing; They don't cross the line to being toxic like a Terrell Owens. 

 

Steering it back to Brandon Marshall, early in his career he didn't know how to channel that passion. He had mental health issues which he now understands and deals with. What I see now is a passionate guy who can better handle his emotions. IF he was cut, I'd love him here in Baltimore. Not to mention the fact our QB is not a cancer like Jay Cutler. 

[balfan23]

A part of me would like to have him, as long as we can get him at a reasonable price (which is doubtful) ... but another part of me wants to see us get young at that position. If we got Marshal, Torrey would be as good as gone and our WRs would be 2 guys over 30. It is worth entertaining the idea, but I'm not entirely sold and still think this is a longshot. 

[Purple Punishment]

A part of me would like to have him, as long as we can get him at a reasonable price (which is doubtful) ... but another part of me wants to see us get young at that position. If we got Marshal, Torrey would be as good as gone and our WRs would be 2 guys over 30. It is worth entertaining the idea, but I'm not entirely sold and still think this is a longshot.

I think it's a great move if it happens. Both Smith and Marshall both play at high levels. Bring in a real WE talent in the draft and groom him under 2 greats. Give these two guys a real chance at a championship

Edit: 5 years ago, this duo would have been the pinnacle of WR tandems

[GrimCoconut]

Don't get me wrong. I'd love to have Marshall and Smith Sr. I'd welcome them both here if it happened. With that said, there's absolutely a risk that they may have conflicting personalities that just don't mix. It's a fine line and I know it's easy to disregard and say they could both be passionate. That's true. What I'm saying is you better make sure it's passion and not poison, because WR cried before about not getting the ball. It can be a distraction. Ozzie and crew will do their due diligence, though. Of that I'm sure.

[JO_75]

Here's how I see it. Marshall turns 31 in March, Smith Sr. 36 in May. A five year difference in age meaning we could get 5+ more years out of Marshall compared to Smith's one or two years. Also why does it seem people think Torrey would be gone if we signed Marshall? What about one and done for Steve Smith Sr and we keep Torrey? Smith Sr. is only owed 3M in base salary until the end of his contract. Smith carries 2.3M in dead cap if we were to release him, but only 1.16M if we designate him Post June 1st cut. 

 

The only thing would be is hope the Bears release Marshall and aren't trying to trade him. If they are trying to trade him, I believe the asking price would be too much for Ozzie to consider. The only way Marshall comes is if they outright release him. 

[PurpleCity5]

torreys offer was about equal to brandons current numbers (i read it on the boards somewhere) if that is the case, the let torrey walk and offer brandon torreys contract + a little bit extra to sweeten the pot, he would probably take it and we would get a huge boost in production, signing torrey to that contract offer would have been reckless, he is worth nowhere near that, and still said he wanted more. 

 

signing marshall, having SSS under a cheap contract, and getting a lucky draft fall and being able to nab jaelen strong or devin smith in the 2nd, or maybe even justin hardy or antwan goodley in the 4th, and suddenly we could have some dynamic threats at wr, a solid o-line, a solid OC, and a great front seven(even if we dont manage to keep ngata) we would have enough of a foundation with an elite WR for long enough to get us another ring. 

 

make no mistakes about it, a wr of marshalls caliber puts us in immediate SB contention in a huge way, assuming he stays healthy. if we have him on the roster this past season, ill go out on a limb and say we find a way to beat NE in the playoffs. 

 

if the bears stay true to their word and cut marshall, he should be the prime target for us, he is the missing ingredient for this team and i see no other moves that could be made to get us back in the super bowl that would be more promising than this one

If we grab Marshall, I'd rather have a BPA R1, and select a deep threat round 2. Rashard Green would be very ideal as a #2, or maybe we'll allow Brown and Camp duel it out. Devin Smith would be awesome but I don't see how we get him, to early R1 and too late R2.

 

I don't understand why some would put down Marshall. He'd be a clear Star #1 here no question about it. Marshall would not only help us get through Denver & NE, he'd lead the way for another Lombardi, you don't take draft into the equation when you consider that. 

 

I really don't mind if we give up a 3rd and 4th we'll probably get that 4th pick back in compensation and those picks have kinda fallen off recently. 

 

Also, equate the value of Marshall, with a 3rd and 4th Round pick. Would we get the same production from those picks that we'd get from Marshall? 

 

Plus, we can afford Brandon if we let Torrey walk and still keep Jimmy, I'm sure that'll lead us cutting bait with Webb because I'm sure F.O wants to keep Yanda or K.O for 2016, maybe both. Tarrell Brown would be an idea #2 CB here. 

 

Brandon Marshall is totally worth it. 

[JoeyFlex5]

If we grab Marshall, I'd rather have a BPA R1, and select a deep threat round 2. Rashard Green would be very ideal as a #2, or maybe we'll allow Brown and Camp duel it out. Devin Smith would be awesome but I don't see how we get him, to early R1 and too late R2.

 

I don't understand why some would put down Marshall. He'd be a clear Star #1 here no question about it. Marshall would not only help us get through Denver & NE, he'd lead the way for another Lombardi, you don't take draft into the equation when you consider that. 

 

I really don't mind if we give up a 3rd and 4th, we'll probably get that 4th pick back in compensation and those picks have kinda fallen off recently. 

 

Also, equate the value of Marshall, with a 3rd and 4th Round pick. Would we get the same production from those picks that we'd get from Marshall? 

 

Plus, we can afford Brandon if we let Torrey walk and still keep Jimmy, I'm sure that'll lead us cutting bait with Webb because I'm sure F.O wants to keep Yanda or K.O for 2016, maybe both. Tarrell Brown would be an idea #2 CB here. 

 

Brandon Marshall is totally worth it. 

only way i see marshall commanding a 3rd and 4th is if there is a bidding war, in which case i think the ravens would kindly decline, i still think that IF he is coming here than the most likely route would be cut/sign. it has yet to be confirmed but if the rumors of the bears wanting to part ways is true, then i could see ozzie being on brandon's speed dial and he would probably be giddy as hell at the idea of coming to baltimore. 

 

and i wasnt referring to just looking for a WR in the draft, but in my eyes if jaelen strong is there at 26 i think he is the best fit for the team and well worthy of being selected at 26, but then again i like gurley and possibly bud dupree or marcus peters in the first as well, i would be thrilled with any of them. 

 

and the devin smith thing, i could see many scenarios playing out where we trade back in the first, either too many prospects all jammed up in similar spots on our boards, or no prospects we see value in at 26, either one is possible, and there was some buzz about the ravens being interested in devin smith at the senior bowl and i could see him being on our radar, im sure ozzie is still kicking himself after passing up alshon jeffrey, maybe he sees a similar situation that he simply cant pass up. 

 

but yes i still think BPA is the best way to go, i was just mulling over possibilities that could drastically improve our wr corps

[balfan23]

Here's how I see it. Marshall turns 31 in March, Smith Sr. 36 in May. A five year difference in age meaning we could get 5+ more years out of Marshall compared to Smith's one or two years. Also why does it seem people think Torrey would be gone if we signed Marshall? What about one and done for Steve Smith Sr and we keep Torrey? Smith Sr. is only owed 3M in base salary until the end of his contract. Smith carries 2.3M in dead cap if we were to release him, but only 1.16M if we designate him Post June 1st cut. 

 

The only thing would be is hope the Bears release Marshall and aren't trying to trade him. If they are trying to trade him, I believe the asking price would be too much for Ozzie to consider. The only way Marshall comes is if they outright release him. 

Because our cap situation is just that tight.

 

True, we could try to make Smith Sr the casualty of signing Marshal rather than Torrey, but Smith Sr is under 2M in savings on a cut - that's just not enough to make offers to both Marshal and Torrey - especially considering we have other signings that need to be made. I just don't think it is practical. Maybe they'd find a way to make it work, but it just seems like a stretch. 

[usmccharles]

It would be great to have him and maybe we're the front runners but there are 31 other teams. Most likely not happening.

Actually.... There would be 30 other teams

[mg90]

Actually.... There would be 30 other teams

It's possible he stays in Chicago, so 31 is right.

[reed20]

"Brandon Marshall thinks that playing for the Ravens would have its perks.

The Bears wideout, who still has three years left on his deal in Chicago, interviewed John Harbaugh for his side gig as a reporter for Showtime's Inside The NFL last week.

(During Super Bowl Week) I actually interviewed him," Marshall said on Inside The NFL, via the Ravens' official website. "I said, 'If I played for you, would you let me do Inside the NFL?'

"He said, 'Oh, absolutely.' He knew I was taking a lot of heat for doing the show. But, when you are the first in the space to do something like this, you are going to get a lot of push-back and we (the Bears) had the worst year possible."

If Marshall were to ever leave Chicago before his contract was finished -- a move that would need to happen before the start of the 2015 league year -- pairing him with Torrey Smith and Steve Smith in Baltimore would certainly be a gift for Joe Flacco.

Of course, this might only be a pipe dream. Marshall was clearly joking when he interviewed Harbaugh and he was using the platform to take a shot at his critics, many of whom were inside the Bears' facility and disapproved of Marshall spending his off days filming a television program.

The frustrations held by his former critics could spill over into the new regime, of course.

In that case, Harbaugh and Marshall might be together again."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000469150/article/brandon-marshall-jokes-about-playing-for-the-ravens

[757RavensFan]

Discussed in depth in the other Brandon Marshall post. 

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[PurpleCity5]

People bring up the Bears cap and point out how Marshall wouldn't need to be cut in order to save cap. Yes, this is true but the Bears have been ultimately pitiful on defense and they'll need much more than the draft to fix that, it's a process that'll involve FA as well. 

 

Marshall's salary is guaranteed IF he's on the roster by March 13th, if they cut him before March 13th, they'll take a $5M hit, after that, they'll owe nothing. So, yes, cap does come into some consideration, I'm also sure they'd like to make sure they can lock up Alshon Jeffery as well, who's obviously the #1 guy there. 

 

But the biggest reason is the fact that there reason for cutting Marshall is bigger than Cap, it's just his teammates not liking him a whole lot and the Bears not liking him to the idea of inside the NFL and the spotlight. Some New sites write that players would even stamp his bus ticket....

 

That's what worries me the most. 

[paulhs94]

I'm just tired of our FO signing veteran WRs during the offseason and then using it as an excuse to not draft a young stud WR. Flacco needs a young WR to build chemistry with, and so far Torrey Smith is the only receiver that has developed alongside Flacco for most of his career. I'd really like to see us draft a #1 franchise receiver in this draft.

[DomMcRaven]

I'm just tired of our FO signing veteran WRs during the offseason and then using it as an excuse to not draft a young stud WR. Flacco needs a young WR to build chemistry with, and so far Torrey Smith is the only receiver that has developed alongside Flacco for most of his career. I'd really like to see us draft a #1 franchise receiver in this draft.

I've been saying this for the longest time!!! Thank you!!

[PurpleCity5]

I've been saying this for the longest time!!! Thank you!!

F.O has targeted guys like Dez Bryant and Mike Evans, their stock would explode or they'd get traded for, we're just unlucky. Outside of that, we suck at drafting WRs, Lol. 

[DomMcRaven]

F.O has targeted guys like Dez Bryant and Mike Evans, their stock would explode of they'd get traded for, we're just unlucky. Outside of that, we suck at drafting WRs, Lol. 

Yeah I'll give them credit for that, but I just hope that this is the year that we can finally land one. 

[usmccharles]

Yeah I'll give them credit for that, but I just hope that this is the year that we can finally land one. 

Are you suggesting one in the first round?  if so who are the potential guys, i havent exactly looked yet

[Moderator 3]

Are you suggesting one in the first round?  if so who are the potential guys, i havent exactly looked yet

That conversation is going on in the Draft Forum, where it belongs.

[PurpleCity5]

Now let the speculation begin! > : ) 

[757RavensFan]

Now let the speculation begin! > : ) 

 

You have an update to the situation?  Fill us in man!

[Inqui]

You have an update to the situation? Fill us in man!

According to the Chicago Tribune, he's been told there are no promises about his future. I'm on mobile, but it's not hard to Google "Brandon Marshall news".

[757RavensFan]

According to the Chicago Tribune, he's been told there are no promises about his future. I'm on mobile, but it's not hard to Google "Brandon Marshall news".

 

It's even easier to not be a jerk about it. 

[52520Andrew]

According to the Chicago Tribune, he's been told there are no promises about his future. I'm on mobile, but it's not hard to Google "Brandon Marshall news".

 

Eh usually it is best to provide a link with news, save the entire board from having to google stuff lol and it takes just as long as going over there yourself. With that said, here you all go...

 

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-brandon-marshall-future-20150211-story.html

 

From what I have read though I wouldn't get into it too much, basically they are going to look at the entire roster since it is a new regime and they don't know exactly what they want to do yet. Not really much of a surprise honestly as that would be true for every new regime but we will see if more concrete stuff comes out. Also sounds like Gase and Marshall are on good terms from their Denver days.

[Inqui]

It's even easier to not be a jerk about it.

I didn't mean it like that. It's the top story on the Google news feed.

[PurpleCity5]

It's even easier to not be a jerk about it. 

Or you can go to B/R, they're updating everything. I prefer that version tbh, one link and keeps everything in one place. 

[PurpleCity5]

I think the Bears are focusing a lot on Jay Cutler and will determine if he can perform better with or without Marshall and make Alshon the main focus. This sounds like do-or-die time for Cutler. 

[PurpleCity5]

One thing to note. Oz doesn't pick up Veteran WR for no reason or to troll. 

 

Having an established WR brings him so much flexibility. Especially for a guy like Marshall who has plenty left in the tank, he would bring plenty of flexibility towards our Draft process. 

 

Not only that but we're probably going to be competing next year, I wouldn't mind a rookie WR, but my question is how will they perform when the lights come on? Will they be able to come up big?