Merged: Brandon Marshall reportedly being traded to the Jets

[Grapple Raven]

I agree with Grim, in that I think Marshall has a bit too much diva in him.  Healthy competition is one thing, but discord in a locker room is quite another.  We have great chemistry right now and I would hate to see that become an issue.  From everything I have read, and from what I've heard out of Marshall's own mouth, I'm not so sure that a lot of that discord in Chicago wasn't spawned by Marshall himself.  A lot of those reports of information leaking from the locker room to the press this season was rumored to be linked to Marshall.  Marshall didn't deny it when questioned about it on an earlier episode of "Inside the NFL". The fact that veterans on the show tried to counsel Marshall about it didn't seem to quell his enthusiasm either.  That was kind of a red flag to me.  I don't see Harbs putting up with that "telling tales out of school" stuff at all. 

 

At his age, health concerns are also an issue, and then there is the mental issue which is something that he will have to live with the rest of his life that will have to be managed because it is not going away.

 

He is definitely a good receiver, but I just have to mull over if these costs outweigh the worth in the long run.  Then his actual financial costs are another issue as well.  Interesting proposition though.

[PurpleCity5]

I don't think it's fair to say Marshall hasn't improved his overall self. He's a better person now than years ago. If Harbs and him were talking and joking around, I don't think Harbs would turn a blind eye and dump Marshall due to personality or chemistry issues, if anything it would be over cap. 

[Tiz]

I don't think it's fair to say Marshall hasn't improved his overall self. He's a better person now than years ago. If Harbs and him were talking and joking around, I don't think Harbs would turn a blind eye and dump Marshall due to personality or chemistry issues, if anything it would be over cap.

I agree. He even got treatment for being bipolar.

[Ray Lewis 4 President]

The idea of Baltimore signing Brandon Marshall is absurd.

a.) The team simply cannot afford him.

b.) He's aging as a player.

c.) He's a diva.

d.) This years NFL class is loaded with WR talent.

* The team should re-sign Torrey.. Steve Smith.. Kamar Aiken.. Marlon Brown.. Michael Campanaro..

If the team drafts a talented, sure handed, big-bodied WR in the 2nd-3rd round, that'd give Baltimore the best shot AND great QB WR chemistry

[orangle123]

The idea of Baltimore signing Brandon Marshall is absurd.

a.) The team simply cannot afford him.

b.) He's aging as a player.

c.) He's a diva.

d.) This years NFL class is loaded with WR talent.

* The team should re-sign Torrey.. Steve Smith.. Kamar Aiken.. Marlon Brown.. Michael Campanaro..

If the team drafts a talented, sure handed, big-bodied WR in the 2nd-3rd round, that'd give Baltimore the best shot AND great QB WR chemistry

I planned an saying this anyway, but you brought it up so I'm quoting you so I can additionally address your post directly. Those saying we can't afford him don't know what he's being paid right now, obviously. He's only making .5 thousand more than what we offered T Smith at the beginning of the year (7K a year). Would Oz nor pay .5 thousand more a year to upgrade from Smith to Marshall? Idk. The point is, he's not that expensive.

Also, I would like to say that his locker room issues are only as much concern to me as Smitty`s were when he joined us. And he turned out just fine.

[757RavensFan]

I agree with Grim, in that I think Marshall has a bit too much diva in him.  Healthy competition is one thing, but discord in a locker room is quite another.  We have great chemistry right now and I would hate to see that become an issue.  From everything I have read, and from what I've heard out of Marshall's own mouth, I'm not so sure that a lot of that discord in Chicago wasn't spawned by Marshall himself.  A lot of those reports of information leaking from the locker room to the press this season was rumored to be linked to Marshall.  Marshall didn't deny it when questioned about it on an earlier episode of "Inside the NFL". The fact that veterans on the show tried to counsel Marshall about it didn't seem to quell his enthusiasm either.  That was kind of a red flag to me.  I don't see Harbs putting up with that "telling tales out of school" stuff at all. 

 

At his age, health concerns are also an issue, and then there is the mental issue which is something that he will have to live with the rest of his life that will have to be managed because it is not going away.

 

He is definitely a good receiver, but I just have to mull over if these costs outweigh the worth in the long run.  Then his actual financial costs are another issue as well.  Interesting proposition though.

 

In all fairness, his antics in the locker room could directly be contributed to a strong desire to win. I'm sure if the Ravens were consistently out of the playoffs, some of our more talented guys/leaders would probably start voicing their frustrations on and off the field.

[rmcjacket23]

I agree with Grim, in that I think Marshall has a bit too much diva in him.  Healthy competition is one thing, but discord in a locker room is quite another.  We have great chemistry right now and I would hate to see that become an issue.  From everything I have read, and from what I've heard out of Marshall's own mouth, I'm not so sure that a lot of that discord in Chicago wasn't spawned by Marshall himself.  A lot of those reports of information leaking from the locker room to the press this season was rumored to be linked to Marshall.  Marshall didn't deny it when questioned about it on an earlier episode of "Inside the NFL". The fact that veterans on the show tried to counsel Marshall about it didn't seem to quell his enthusiasm either.  That was kind of a red flag to me.  I don't see Harbs putting up with that "telling tales out of school" stuff at all. 

 

At his age, health concerns are also an issue, and then there is the mental issue which is something that he will have to live with the rest of his life that will have to be managed because it is not going away.

 

He is definitely a good receiver, but I just have to mull over if these costs outweigh the worth in the long run.  Then his actual financial costs are another issue as well.  Interesting proposition though.

Lets be realistic though... 2015 is very possibly Steve Smith's last year with this team, along with Jacoby.

 

So after this season, assuming we re-sign Torrey, you've got Torrey and guys like Marlon/Aiken/Campanaro from the "chemistry" aspect.

 

Its possible Pitta never plays for us again, and its possible Steve Smith is in his final season.

 

In my opinion, one way or another, the "chemistry" aspect is a very short-term process.

[mmcclend]

As much as I like Marshall, signing him would just further push back our developmental process of our under receivers.

[Pirate88]

I agree with Grim, in that I think Marshall has a bit too much diva in him.  Healthy competition is one thing, but discord in a locker room is quite another.  We have great chemistry right now and I would hate to see that become an issue.  From everything I have read, and from what I've heard out of Marshall's own mouth, I'm not so sure that a lot of that discord in Chicago wasn't spawned by Marshall himself.  A lot of those reports of information leaking from the locker room to the press this season was rumored to be linked to Marshall.  Marshall didn't deny it when questioned about it on an earlier episode of "Inside the NFL". The fact that veterans on the show tried to counsel Marshall about it didn't seem to quell his enthusiasm either.  That was kind of a red flag to me.  I don't see Harbs putting up with that "telling tales out of school" stuff at all. 

 

At his age, health concerns are also an issue, and then there is the mental issue which is something that he will have to live with the rest of his life that will have to be managed because it is not going away.

 

He is definitely a good receiver, but I just have to mull over if these costs outweigh the worth in the long run.  Then his actual financial costs are another issue as well.  Interesting proposition though.

Chemistry!!?? Only chemistry I know in the NFL that counts is being in sync with the qb!! To say the best WR in ravens history is a distraction is ridiculous. When I was in grade9 my uncle who is a scout started teaching me about player details. That same year Deion Sanders signed a 1yr $1mil contract with the SF. The best cover corner ever. Morons like mike Ditka said SF was already a good team and the best shutdown corner ever to play the game would just be a distraction!! Guess what SF was a good team but were knocked from the playoffs by a better team the cowboys in consecutive years. SF finally beat the cowboys and Deion was the difference maker. So much for elite players being a "distraction" SF that year also traded up in the draft for another difference maker on defense named Bryant Young. They knew they were an impact player or 2 away from an almost sure Superbowl. They signed the Corner in free agency and moved up In the draft for the impact DT!!

OK I'm not saying some players aren't distractions. But you just can't repeat some broadcasters line and think its concrete. Just think it out!! Marshalls aggravation is from carrying terrible QBs and terrible teams and not getting a chance at playoffs ad superbowls!! Its an honor a great player wants to be part of our playoff excitement and wants to get a ring as being part of the Ravens. My only issue is he is 30 and nearing end of his prime. My question to him would be are you willing to take PRACTICE TRAINING CONDITIONING "AND" NUTRITION MORE Serious than ever. In your 20s a gifted athlete can eat fast food and get by with mediocre conditioning. After 10 yrs in the NFL fanatical practices training and nutrition is important to maintain pro bowl status!! I would ask Brandon Marshall if he is willing to practice stretch and train hard and long and use his Nutri Bullet every day more than I would be concerned with him being a distraction. Just ask Chad Johnson how he declined after 31 cuz he loved fast food and disliked conditioning. Andre Johnson remained elite into his early/mid 30s due to training/nutrition. He is just now reaching over the hill at nearly 36. I'm not at all concerned with Marshalls frustrations of playing on terrible teams and carrying terrible QBs. He along with almost any player is going to be humble with the ravens cuz they are finally with a confident hard working winning team with a winning atmosphere!! And he will know the ravens are winners and he is just being part of that and knowing his role is to just help get the team over the hump while helping younger players. He wants a ring and he doesn't want to come to the ravens to pad his stats or try to be the lead dog. He knows he is here to help the best team he has ever played for be great and play his part to help get back to the Superbowl. He wants to play for a QB that he is well aware can perform at an elite level when it counts. As well as be a part of helping himself to be a better player. He is aware Joe can help him be a better player than ever.

[rmcjacket23]

Chemistry!!?? Only chemistry I know in the NFL that counts is being in sync with the qb!! To say the best WR in ravens history is a distraction is ridiculous. When I was in grade9 my uncle who is a scout started teaching me about player details. That same year Deion Sanders signed a 1yr $1mil contract with the SF. The best cover corner ever. Morons like mike Ditka said SF was already a good team and the best shutdown corner ever to play the game would just be a distraction!! Guess what SF was a good team but were knocked from the playoffs by a better team the cowboys in consecutive years. SF finally beat the cowboys and Deion was the difference maker. So much for elite players being a "distraction" SF that year also traded up in the draft for another difference maker on defense named Bryant Young. They knew they were an impact player or 2 away from an almost sure Superbowl. They signed the Corner in free agency and moved up In the draft for the impact DT!!

OK I'm not saying some players aren't distractions. But you just can't repeat some broadcasters line and think its concrete. Just think it out!! Marshalls aggravation is from carrying terrible QBs and terrible teams and not getting a chance at playoffs ad superbowls!! Its an honor a great player wants to be part of our playoff excitement and wants to get a ring as being part of the Ravens. My only issue is he is 30 and nearing end of his prime. My question to him would be are you willing to take PRACTICE TRAINING CONDITIONING "AND" NUTRITION MORE Serious than ever. In your 20s a gifted athlete can eat fast food and get by with mediocre conditioning. After 10 yrs in the NFL fanatical practices training and nutrition is important to maintain pro bowl status!! I would ask Brandon Marshall if he is willing to practice stretch and train hard and long and use his Nutri Bullet every day more than I would be concerned with him being a distraction. Just ask Chad Johnson how he declined after 31 cuz he loved fast food and disliked conditioning. Andre Johnson remained elite into his early/mid 30s due to training/nutrition. He is just now reaching over the hill at nearly 36. I'm not at all concerned with Marshalls frustrations of playing on terrible teams and carrying terrible QBs. He along with almost any player is going to be humble with the ravens cuz they are finally with a confident hard working winning team with a winning atmosphere!! And he will know the ravens are winners and he is just being part of that and knowing his role is to just help get the team over the hump while helping younger players. He wants a ring and he doesn't want to come to the ravens to pad his stats or try to be the lead dog. He knows he is here to help the best team he has ever played for be great and play his part to help get back to the Superbowl. He wants to play for a QB that he is well aware can perform at an elite level when it counts. As well as be a part of helping himself to be a better player. He is aware Joe can help him be a better player than ever.

All this is great and cute and all, but this is all obviously premature...

 

Brandon Marshall isn't a FA. The Chicago Bears hold 10000% of the leverage here. If they want him back, he stays, no questions asked. Its that simple.

 

If they decide to cut him, then he becomes a FA, which means Marshall ha all the leverage. He gets to pick and choose who he wants to play for.

 

The Ravens, frankly, are just spectators in the process at this point. I thnk too many fans have somehow gathered the idea that all it takes to get Marshall is a smile and some cash.

 

Doesn't work that way. In the end, nobody here on these boards has any vague clue what Brandon Marshall wants. Despite what some fans think (and I have no idea why some fans think this to be honest), the #1 goal of every NFL football player is NOT to win a SB. For some players it is, for others its about getting paid the maximum amount of money possible to play a sport that they enjoy and are good at.

 

Attempting to guess what each individual person prefers is a waste of time and pointless. You don't know these people, and you never will.

[mg90]

It would be great to have him and maybe we're the front runners but there are 31 other teams. Most likely not happening.

[Ravenseconbeast]

So much talk if Brandon and it is(for now) a complete speculation. Can we even afford his cap? Is 10m/y receiver even worth it? He'd be billed in as the most expensive WR ravens has ever had their hands on and he is starting on 31yr old body.

Maybe on scenario like this, have bears eat a bit of chunk of the pay and give them a late round pick. Would that make sense?

[PurpleCity5]

I agree. He even got treatment for being bipolar.

Excatly, this Brandon is way better than the one we saw years ago. Say what you want but the Ravens have a history with guys with "Diva" personality's as well. Also, if we consider Crabtree why run away from Marshall? 

[rmcjacket23]

So much talk if Brandon and it is(for now) a complete speculation. Can we even afford his cap? Is 10m/y receiver even worth it? He'd be billed in as the most expensive WR ravens has ever had their hands on and he is starting on 31yr old body.

Maybe on scenario like this, have bears eat a bit of chunk of the pay and give them a late round pick. Would that make sense?

1. If he's outright released, he's a FA, which means we pick up whatever contract he agrees to sign with us.

 

2. If he were to be traded, we would assume the rest of the salaries on his contract, which includes a fully guaranteed $7.5M salary for 2015. After that we theoretically could agree to a restrucutre of some sort, but he has base salaries of $7.5M, $7.9M, and $8.3M remaining on the three years left on his deal. Nothing is guaranteed after 2015 though, so he would essentially be playing on a year to year contract after that.

 

Whether we could afford that or not we can't possibly know at this point. Conventional wisdom would say you can't afford him and Torrey, so it would be a one or the other type decision.

 

For me, adding Brandon Marshall doesn't really change much for me in terms of seeking a WR earlier in the draft. We know SSS has probably one year left, and assuming we acquired Marshall and let Torrey walk, you essentially are bringing in a veteran on a year to year deal.

[PurpleCity5]

So much talk if Brandon and it is(for now) a complete speculation. Can we even afford his cap? Is 10m/y receiver even worth it? He'd be billed in as the most expensive WR ravens has ever had their hands on and he is starting on 31yr old body.

Maybe on scenario like this, have bears eat a bit of chunk of the pay and give them a late round pick. Would that make sense?

Brandon's value in turn would help us drastically, we would have the cap if we allow Torrey to walk and reconstruct Ngata and part ways with other guys. IMO it's worth it, you're competing for a title in at the end of the day, not rebuilding. 

 

We've never had a WR with star caliber like Brandon, not only would he have the possibility of posting career #s in Baltimore, but he's the exact prototype WR that we love to have. He's be an obvious #1 no question. 

[Culpepper]

Completely agree with us getting him. Him and Steve would be a old duo though.

[JoeyFlex5]

All this is great and cute and all, but this is all obviously premature...

 

Brandon Marshall isn't a FA. The Chicago Bears hold 10000% of the leverage here. If they want him back, he stays, no questions asked. Its that simple.

 

If they decide to cut him, then he becomes a FA, which means Marshall ha all the leverage. He gets to pick and choose who he wants to play for.

 

The Ravens, frankly, are just spectators in the process at this point. I thnk too many fans have somehow gathered the idea that all it takes to get Marshall is a smile and some cash.

 

Doesn't work that way. In the end, nobody here on these boards has any vague clue what Brandon Marshall wants. Despite what some fans think (and I have no idea why some fans think this to be honest), the #1 goal of every NFL football player is NOT to win a SB. For some players it is, for others its about getting paid the maximum amount of money possible to play a sport that they enjoy and are good at.

 

Attempting to guess what each individual person prefers is a waste of time and pointless. You don't know these people, and you never will.

the bears have already stated they plan on cutting ties with brandon marshall. 

 

brandon and harbs are already laying a foundation with friendly talks, not making any moves, but these kinds of small talks can lead to us being the first phone call made when he gets cut. 

 

to say not every players goal is to win a super bowl is true, but when players start hitting that 30 year old mark and they start thinking about how they are gonna wind down their nfl career, it starts to come into play, especially a guy like marshall who has had a spectacular career on sorry teams and carrying sorry qb's to pro bowl seasons, if you dont think that winning a super bowl while he can still contribute in a big way is on his mind then that is just crazy talk, part of every player wants a ring very badly, these guys are competitors and they have played football since they were children, you dont think they wanna be at the pinnacle of football one day and raise that trophy? especially when he knows he only has a few years of elite production left, you can bet he wants to go to a team with a great and respected head coach for the first time in his career, with a WINNING quarterback for the first time, a quarterback who will share the load instead of having to make the qb look good all the time, he probably wants to be in a winning atmosphere for the first time ever. to assume he doesnt want a super bowl and that the ravens have no shot because he isnt CURRENTLY a free agent, is just ridiculous.

[757RavensFan]

the bears have already stated they plan on cutting ties with brandon marshall. 

 

brandon and harbs are already laying a foundation with friendly talks, not making any moves, but these kinds of small talks can lead to us being the first phone call made when he gets cut. 

 

to say not every players goal is to win a super bowl is true, but when players start hitting that 30 year old mark and they start thinking about how they are gonna wind down their nfl career, it starts to come into play, especially a guy like marshall who has had a spectacular career on sorry teams and carrying sorry qb's to pro bowl seasons, if you dont think that winning a super bowl while he can still contribute in a big way is on his mind then that is just crazy talk, part of every player wants a ring very badly, these guys are competitors and they have played football since they were children, you dont think they wanna be at the pinnacle of football one day and raise that trophy? especially when he knows he only has a few years of elite production left, you can bet he wants to go to a team with a great and respected head coach for the first time in his career, with a WINNING quarterback for the first time, a quarterback who will share the load instead of having to make the qb look good all the time, he probably wants to be in a winning atmosphere for the first time ever. to assume he doesnt want a super bowl and that the ravens have no shot because he isnt CURRENTLY a free agent, is just ridiculous.

 

Besides internet speculation, is there a reliable source for this?

[JoeyFlex5]

Brandon's value in turn would help us drastically, we would have the cap if we allow Torrey to walk and reconstruct Ngata and part ways with other guys. IMO it's worth it, you're competing for a title in at the end of the day, not rebuilding. 

 

We've never had a WR with star caliber like Brandon, not only would he have the possibility of posting career #s in Baltimore, but he's the exact prototype WR that we love to have. He's be an obvious #1 no question. 

torreys offer was about equal to brandons current numbers (i read it on the boards somewhere) if that is the case, the let torrey walk and offer brandon torreys contract + a little bit extra to sweeten the pot, he would probably take it and we would get a huge boost in production, signing torrey to that contract offer would have been reckless, he is worth nowhere near that, and still said he wanted more. 

 

signing marshall, having SSS under a cheap contract, and getting a lucky draft fall and being able to nab jaelen strong or devin smith in the 2nd, or maybe even justin hardy or antwan goodley in the 4th, and suddenly we could have some dynamic threats at wr, a solid o-line, a solid OC, and a great front seven(even if we dont manage to keep ngata) we would have enough of a foundation with an elite WR for long enough to get us another ring. 

 

make no mistakes about it, a wr of marshalls caliber puts us in immediate SB contention in a huge way, assuming he stays healthy. if we have him on the roster this past season, ill go out on a limb and say we find a way to beat NE in the playoffs. 

 

if the bears stay true to their word and cut marshall, he should be the prime target for us, he is the missing ingredient for this team and i see no other moves that could be made to get us back in the super bowl that would be more promising than this one

[rmcjacket23]

the bears have already stated they plan on cutting ties with brandon marshall. 

 

brandon and harbs are already laying a foundation with friendly talks, not making any moves, but these kinds of small talks can lead to us being the first phone call made when he gets cut. 

 

to say not every players goal is to win a super bowl is true, but when players start hitting that 30 year old mark and they start thinking about how they are gonna wind down their nfl career, it starts to come into play, especially a guy like marshall who has had a spectacular career on sorry teams and carrying sorry qb's to pro bowl seasons, if you dont think that winning a super bowl while he can still contribute in a big way is on his mind then that is just crazy talk, part of every player wants a ring very badly, these guys are competitors and they have played football since they were children, you dont think they wanna be at the pinnacle of football one day and raise that trophy? especially when he knows he only has a few years of elite production left, you can bet he wants to go to a team with a great and respected head coach for the first time in his career, with a WINNING quarterback for the first time, a quarterback who will share the load instead of having to make the qb look good all the time, he probably wants to be in a winning atmosphere for the first time ever. to assume he doesnt want a super bowl and that the ravens have no shot because he isnt CURRENTLY a free agent, is just ridiculous.

Please cite a specific article that said with 100% certainty that the Bears will release Marshall...

 

I'm willing to bet any article you find will give an indication that they are CONSIDERING releasing Marshall, not that they will.

 

I'll put it like this... I'd consider the likelihood of Marshall getting outright released as likely as the likelihood of Ngata getting outright released.

 

Possible, a consideration, but not even remotely guaranteed.

 

You're reaching at this point.

[JoeyFlex5]

Besides internet speculation, is there a reliable source for this?

nothing definitive, but there has been enough info floating around to catch our eyes.

 

do you have a problem with speculation? thats what most of sports forums are about in the offseason anyways. let us speculate.

[JoeyFlex5]

Please cite a specific article that said with 100% certainty that the Bears will release Marshall...

 

I'm willing to bet any article you find will give an indication that they are CONSIDERING releasing Marshall, not that they will.

 

I'll put it like this... I'd consider the likelihood of Marshall getting outright released as likely as the likelihood of Ngata getting outright released.

 

Possible, a consideration, but not even remotely guaranteed.

 

You're reaching at this point.

and as i just told someone else, these boards are made for speculation, youre not some harvard professor assigning essays that require detailed citations of anything, youre on a ravens forums, speculating with other people, but then telling people not to speculate. 

 

so while i may have overstated it a bit, there are reasons for us to have these conversations about marshall, and while im saying the bears plan to cut him, you are in turn saying that there is essentially no chance of it happening, speculating just as much as i am, only youre doing it for the sake of arguing. 

 

we had these same conversations in 2010 when the boldin rumors started, everyone was saying it wouldnt happen and its all "speculation" and a year later, boldin was on the team. get real dude, stop acting like some type of authority figure on here, we can speculate all we want.

[757RavensFan]

nothing definitive, but there has been enough info floating around to catch our eyes.

 

do you have a problem with speculation? thats what most of sports forums are about in the offseason anyways. let us speculate.

 

I was just wondering if you read something I haven't seen yet.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Carry on!

[Static]

Maybe. But when are we gonna give Joe some height on the outside? We already see how well he connects with Marlon

[rmcjacket23]

and as i just told someone else, these boards are made for speculation, youre not some harvard professor assigning essays that require detailed citations of anything, youre on a ravens forums, speculating with other people, but then telling people not to speculate. 

 

so while i may have overstated it a bit, there are reasons for us to have these conversations about marshall, and while im saying the bears plan to cut him, you are in turn saying that there is essentially no chance of it happening, speculating just as much as i am, only youre doing it for the sake of arguing. 

 

we had these same conversations in 2010 when the boldin rumors started, everyone was saying it wouldnt happen and its all "speculation" and a year later, boldin was on the team. get real dude, stop acting like some type of authority figure on here, we can speculate all we want.

You're missing the boat completely once again...

 

You're statement was, "the bears have already stated they plan on cutting ties with brandon marshall". This statement is inaccurate. That's not even vaguely a "speculation" statement... that's you stating something in the form of a fact that isn't even remotely a fact. If you want to make a speculation statement, I suggest using words like "I think" or similar words that make something be viewed as an opinion rather than a fact. Clearly, I'm not the only person that thinks this, as I wasn't the first to bring it up.

 

I never once even remotely hinted that the Bears are certainly not going to cut him... I said there's not nearly enough information to make any sort of judgment right now. This isn't some FA who only requires cash and cap space to become part of our team... he either has to be released or traded first, which is mostly out of our control.

 

If you want to SPECULATE about Marshall talking to Harbaugh on TV as a definitive statement that he is 100% going to be a Raven, then go for it. Me, I like to wait and hear things from credible sources and people before making such speculation. There's speculation that the Ravens are going to sign Demaryius Thomas also, but that doesn't mean he's been assigned a jersey number.

 

In short... pump the brakes, which is what I said from the beginning. There's a lot more things that have to happen for Marshall to be a Raven, and we are pretty far away from that happening right now. If I were you, I'd be praying that the Ravens don't resign Torrey then, because if they do, I think the Marshall signing becomes borderline impossible.

[bmore ravens20]

Realistically, we would not be able to sign Marshall should he be cut by the Bears.  There will be plenty of suitors and would most likely be out of our price range even without signing Torrey.

 

I think a more realistic option if the team wanted to bring Marshall to Baltimore would be via trade.  The question is, what would you be willing to give up in order to lure him to the Ravens? We are rumored to have around 9 picks after being awarded compensatory draft picks.  I don't think 9 rookies make the roster after we are done filling our roster via free agency and extensions. I don't think it would be a bad move to give up a couple mid round picks for Marshall.  I can't remember off the top of my head what the Bears had to spend to get him from Miami. 

 

I know this year proved more than any other year that depth is critical in the NFL and draft picks are valuable commodities.  I just love the idea of having Marshall, Smith Sr., Campanaro, Brown, and Aiken at WR.  This would also allow us to avoid having to take the gamble on drafting a WR high in the draft. 

[Pirate88]

Torrey can be replaced!! You can find one dimensional deep threats. It's hard to find a top10 WR. Matter of fact there are deep threats out there with similar or more talent than Torrey that are their teams #3-#4 WR. Torrey has received more targets than other skill deficient straight linish speed WRs by default. Steelers let Wallace walk who is more explosive and better than Torrey and he is a huge disappointment in Miami cuz they realized he is a one trick pony who is useless without an elite deep thrower and he is not a consistent go to guy. Instead his former team has consistently pumped out more deep threats and better more complete WRs. They didn't miss Wallace at all. Instead, WHILE HIS FORMER TEAMMATES AND NEW PLAYERS HAVE EASILY REPLACED AND SURPASSED HIM!! Theres not a team in the NFL at the moment that would prefer Wallace over Antonio Brown Emmanuel Sanders or even rookie Marty Bryant. I also don't understand this diva garbage. A WR is only a diva when he is on a bad team and allowed to stand out as an only winner on his team!! Even the great humble jerry Rice became a diva on a terrible SF team!! Then he left SF altogether!! No WR will be a diva on the Ravens!! We have great coaching that is strong and confident smart leaders that all players know is in control. The ravens also have talented players who are respected and in control. The ravens also promote hard work and a winning atmosphere that all players respect and try as part of the team. WRs are divas only when on a bad team with incompetent coaching/leadership/work Eric and system. The ravens promote an incredibly confident winning environment and team atmosphere cuz of hard work and great leadership from coaches veterans and talented focused players who set an example. It is the reason will hill or Justin Blackmon will be focused players on the ravens while suspended on other teams. We promote winning confidence and believe in former trouble young players. We are the team that promotes players to believe in themselves while providing structure, leadership and the will to work hard and win. They feel motivated to stay straight on the ravens and feel appreciated and the fun of winning. The ravens have the best structure for a young person to become focused and straight and now prefer enjoy being a great player in the NFL over a troubled young person.

Brandon Marshall would be very excited being part of a great team and happy being part of great winning team/environment finally. He would know he isn't bigger than the team!! He would just work hard and be excited to help a team win and be part of a team competitive in the playoffs.

[AsianRice]

Torrey can be replaced!! You can find one dimensional deep threats. It's hard to find a top10 WR. Matter of fact there are deep threats out there with similar or more talent than Torrey that are their teams #3-#4 WR. Torrey has received more targets than other skill deficient straight linish speed WRs by default. Steelers let Wallace walk who is more explosive and better than Torrey and he is a huge disappointment in Miami cuz they realized he is a one trick pony who is useless without an elite deep thrower and he is not a consistent go to guy. Instead his former team has consistently pumped out more deep threats and better more complete WRs. They didn't miss Wallace at all. Instead, WHILE HIS FORMER TEAMMATES AND NEW PLAYERS HAVE EASILY REPLACED AND SURPASSED HIM!! Theres not a team in the NFL at the moment that would prefer Wallace over Antonio Brown Emmanuel Sanders or even rookie Marty Bryant. I also don't understand this diva garbage. A WR is only a diva when he is on a bad team and allowed to stand out as an only winner on his team!! Even the great humble jerry Rice became a diva on a terrible SF team!! Then he left SF altogether!! No WR will be a diva on the Ravens!! We have great coaching that is strong and confident smart leaders that all players know is in control. The ravens also have talented players who are respected and in control. The ravens also promote hard work and a winning atmosphere that all players respect and try as part of the team. WRs are divas only when on a bad team with incompetent coaching/leadership/work Eric and system. The ravens promote an incredibly confident winning environment and team atmosphere cuz of hard work and great leadership from coaches veterans and talented focused players who set an example. It is the reason will hill or Justin Blackmon will be focused players on the ravens while suspended on other teams. We promote winning confidence and believe in former trouble young players. We are the team that promotes players to believe in themselves while providing structure, leadership and the will to work hard and win. They feel motivated to stay straight on the ravens and feel appreciated and the fun of winning. The ravens have the best structure for a young person to become focused and straight and now prefer enjoy being a great player in the NFL over a troubled young person.

Brandon Marshall would be very excited being part of a great team and happy being part of great winning team/environment finally. He would know he isn't bigger than the team!! He would just work hard and be excited to help a team win and be part of a team competitive in the playoffs.

I like your post and it is what I was thinking too but lazy to put altogether into words..lol

 

Marshall labelled as diva cuz he wants to win badly.  If he is here with us, Harbs will keep him straight up hard blue collar working player.  He will be enjoyed to be on the playoff caliber team for once....

 

PS: Nothing makes you more happy than winning, if you are a sport player.....

[Pirate88]

I like your post and it is what I was thinking too but lazy to put altogether into words..lol

 

Marshall labelled as diva cuz he wants to win badly.  If he is here with us, Harbs will keep him straight up hard blue collar working player.  He will be enjoyed to be on the playoff caliber team for once....

 

PS: Nothing makes you more happy than winning, if you are a sport player.....

Sorry dude lol, I'm often multi tasking during a post. I also have to pay attention to what I type. My current spell checker changes words around that were fine to begin with not to mention doubles up my words. Its relaxing when I actually get to post something uninterrupted. I actually had some time and made a nice post bout what we can learn from the Superbowl when the words suddenly switched aroundy completely!! But put simply he is an impact WR we never had. Like Gronk put the patriots overover.

[BSHU_Miami]

The word for dez Bryant turned from diva to passionate after the Cowboys started winning.

Steve smith was a diva in Carolina and a passionate warrior in baltimore...

Give me a diva then, give me someone who shows he gives a damn. Joe will put them in line anyways.