Brady to Ravens: 'Study the rule book and figure it out'

[darklight1216]

Maybe Tom should study the rules on sacks. He might notice that contrary to his belief, they are in fact legal.

[rmcjacket23]

Agreed, Harb's constant whining to the refs all years leads to NOT getting decisions when you need them. This was a chess match between Harb's and Bilichick , and Harb's lost.

 

Also, 3 personal foul penalties killed us, Torey for 2 and  Mcphee for the other.

The second one on Torrey was irrelevant... we scored a TD on the next play.

 

I don't recall the one on McPhee... when was that?

[ravensfan160]

Brady and Beli-cheat are so smug they make it easy to hate them. Then you have a guy like Peyton Manning who seems like a class act and it's sad to see the way his career is ending. I just hope somebody beats the Pats. Go Colts/Hawks/Pack!

[PatsFan363839]

Cocky and an ego-maniac"

That whiner was making fits to the refs all game. There is always an exception to the rule. Him cussing the hell out of the refs and not getting a single nod of penalty was a joke.

 

How do you know Brady was cussing the ref out?  He just looked pissed.  Supposedly, Jernigan gave him a nice, little eye rake so there is a reason for that. 

 

I'm not certain but on the one hissy fit it looked like he bumped the ref with his facemask. Wish I would have DVR'd it to find out.

 

He didn't.

[i82much]

The plays were legal, the formation was legal.  However, the intent of the rule is to prevent the defense from being deceived about which receivers were eligible.  Clearly the Patriots used the numbers of the players involved, the formation, and the delay in reporting eligibility to intentionally deceive the Ravens.  The referees did not appreciate the situation quickly enough and did not afford the Ravens an adequate opportunity to react.  Yes, there may have been 10 seconds or so between the reporting eligibility but the Ravens were entitled not only to an opportunity to adjust their coverage on the field BUT ALSO DENIED THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUBSTITUTE.  That is the key.  If the refs had given the Ravens the chance to substitute, chances are very good the Patriots would have gotten a delay of game penalty (there are substitution rules to this effect).  

[furi0usbee]

Maybe Tom should study the rules on sacks. He might notice that contrary to his belief, they are in fact legal.

Ok. I'm sure he'll study them in between practice and studying the playbook for the Colts. I'm very sure of it.

[The Mom Gene]

Ok. I'm sure he'll study them in between practice and studying the playbook for the Colts. I'm very sure of it.

I'm guessing he should have studied them a long time ago...  like maybe 13 years ago or so????  His petulance is annoying, and not only to Ravens fans, but to most other teams as well.  Most other QB's don't get the discretion that he does.  Flacco had his helmet ripped off a few weeks ago...  hmmmmm... no flag...  But you didn't see him standing there screaming in the refs face about it.

[The Raven]

Well, Harbaugh said today in his press conference: "had no way in determining the outcome of the game." His only problem, he said, was with the refs' handling of it. He said, "My issue was the mechanics of the officiating."

 

So, if you wanna keep crying, go for it. But our head coach isn't blaming our loss on this, and he's not saying it's cheap. So...

[i82much]

It was cheap, he is just trying to backpedal and take the high road.  Politics.  The Pats intentionally manipulated the numbers, the timing of when they announced eligibility, and how they announced it (identifying ineligible instead of specifically pointing out who was eligible) to gain an unfair advantage.  It worked by not only confusing the Ravens, but more importantly by confusing the officials.  

 

The Ravens should have had an opportunity to substitute and they did not.  To suggest that the yards gained by this deceptive ruse did not influence the outcome of the game is pure political talk and simply not true.  Once again, Belichick has skirted the edge of the rulebook to unfair advantage.  

 

Tell me it is legal, I agree.  Tell me the Pats are really an all-time great team, BS.  

[Moderator 3]

I'm a little surprised by the number of Pats fans who continue to invade our forums to "defend" the actions of their team. If they are so almighty great, why do they care what we think? Shouldn't they have moved on to trolling the Colts by now? It might not be a very "modish" thing to say, but they seem to be the worst winners ever.

[Edgar]

"We had six eligible receivers on the field but only five were eligible". That's an interesting choice of words, don't you think?

A bit of an insight into how duplicitous the action was… A bit of a slip of the Freudian nature.

[Bltravens]

 

Is that why Green Bay beat the Patriots 26-21 in Week 13? 

 

I think the Patriots match up better with the Hawks. The Seahawks receivers will be erased, the Patriots will expose the bad pass blocking of the Seattle line, and they'll spy Wilson. If Seattle wants to win, they need Lynch to have a hell of a day. I strongly feel the Patriots will put a hurtin' on Seattle's passing offense.

 

Lol, a 5 point game suggests its an evenly matched game.  I simply think Seattle's defense has a far better chance of stopping Brady than GB's does.  Whether Rodger's scores a ton again on the Pats D I think is questionable, though not out of the question.  And I'm not entirely sure who is going to be pass rushing for the Pats.  Jones looked pretty average against an undrafted rookie who tore his ACL. Seattle can control the clock with Lynch and Wilson.  Plus if we can score 32, I don't know how Seattle can't score into the mid to high 20s.

 

[K-Dog]

I'm a little surprised by the number of Pats fans who continue to invade our forums to "defend" the actions of their team. If they are so almighty great, why do they care what we think? Shouldn't they have moved on to trolling the Colts by now? It might not be a very "modish" thing to say, but they seem to be the worst winners ever.

My wife said the same thing earlier today.  Her cousin is one of "those"  pats fans, and he has twenty some unprovoked on Facebook posts since Saturday defending the pats.  My wife just posted.... " feeling guilty about something?  "

 

The funny thing is the VAST majority of Ravens fans are long since over this.  Its the pats fans that seemingly wont let it go.

[furi0usbee]

I'm guessing he should have studied them a long time ago...  like maybe 13 years ago or so????  His petulance is annoying, and not only to Ravens fans, but to most other teams as well.  Most other QB's don't get the discretion that he does.  Flacco had his helmet ripped off a few weeks ago...  hmmmmm... no flag...  But you didn't see him standing there screaming in the refs face about it.

 

Flacco barely ever opens his mouth for anything. I'm not knocking that, I like how he handles the offense. But Brady is extremely vocal on the field, and Flacco just doesn't say much. So I don't expect him to say much even if/when his helmet is torn off. That's not Brady. Different player, different personality. I don't care whether Brady whines, cries, yells, etc. I only care about him winning. And more times than not he hasn't let me down. If all you can complain about is Brady whining to refs, that's good, because that means we won the game. I would never waste my time talking about what Suggs says, etc. You man up on the field and win. Do that, and nothing else matters.

[Grapple Raven]

Might not be new to Belichick or Brady but that doesn't mean it's unworthy of a penalty

 

 

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/25/tom-brady-tantrum-broncos-patriots-refs-video_n_4338404.html

 

Berad, it shows up in this gif, but it shows up better in the "Wired" episode of that shot to the face of Jerrigan by Brady boy!  I've never seen a QB play the game that doesn't think he needs to ever get tackled, lmao! This guy is such a prima donna it is laughable! Someone should remind him its football!  Honestly, I would hate to play with him and have to defend his crap all the time, that has got to get old really quick.

[Tiz]

My wife said the same thing earlier today. Her cousin is one of "those" pats fans, and he has twenty some unprovoked on Facebook posts since Saturday defending the pats. My wife just posted.... " feeling guilty about something? "

The funny thing is the VAST majority of Ravens fans are long since over this. Its the pats fans that seemingly wont let it go.

Lol. I'm sure there were lots of ravens fans doing that regarding the sb over sf.

[Tank 92]

I don't care whether Brady whines, cries, yells, etc. I only care about him winning. And more times than not he hasn't let me down. If all you can complain about is Brady whining to refs, that's good, because that means we won the game. I would never waste my time talking about what Suggs says, etc. You man up on the field and win. Do that, and nothing else matters.

 

 

I don't think anyone gives a rat's butt about Miss brady and her whining. What they do care about is the preferential treatment she gets.  

[Tank 92]

Lol. I'm sure there were lots of ravens fans doing that regarding the sb over sf.

 

 

why is that?

[Tiz]

why is that?

Pushing a ref is written as automatic ejection

[Tank 92]

Pushing a ref is written as automatic ejection

 

 

lol.........losing Cary Williams wouldn't have been a big deal or changed the outcome of the game.

[K-Dog]

Lol. I'm sure there were lots of ravens fans doing that regarding the sb over sf.

No. Not that I recall.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

"We had six eligible receivers on the field but only five were eligible". That's an interesting choice of words, don't you think?

A bit of an insight into how duplicitous the action was… A bit of a slip of the Freudian nature.

 

More attention should be made of this.

Are we shocked though that there isn't?

[Tiz]

lol.........losing Cary Williams wouldn't have been a big deal or changed the outcome of the game.

Doesn't matter if he'd change the outcome or not. The fact remains people here live a double standard. Any player from another team pushing a ref and not ejecting you have a multi page thread whining...

[Tank 92]

Doesn't matter if he'd change the outcome or not. The fact remains people here live a double standard. Any player from another team pushing a ref and not ejecting you have a multi page thread whining...

 

 

I wouldn't call it a "double standard".......we're not talking about morals or ethics here. It's called being a fan and having the bias that naturally comes for some while supporting their team.

[RavenSince1998]

This is not cheating. It's not outside the rules. 

But is it really football? The answer is no. The Pats found another way to manipulate the momentum of another game to their benefit, in a classless manner. Again.

[Tiz]

I wouldn't call it a "double standard".......we're not talking about morals or ethics here. It's called being a fan and having the bias that naturally comes for some while supporting their team.

So you want to use the same definition but soften the word choice. Ok sure you're just being a fan....

[Desert]

I think you meant Belichick....  Not Billick... 

And I think you meant Torrey...  Not Torey.

 

There was no win or loss here on this....  First of all...  Don't feed the trolls....

Second, the BEEF was with the deception, AND that the Refs should have handled and didn't...  It's no chess match...  The Patriots believe we were "outcoached"...  We weren't.  We were deceived by them putting 6 receivers on the field, and the refs not announcing one of them (which one of them) was ineligible.

Believe what you want, if Harb's would have been a little smarter he would have used a time out.(smarter coach) enough said anyway...

[Tank 92]

So you want to use the same definition but soften the word choice. Ok sure you're just being a fan....

 

 

OK........what are being?  lol

[The Mom Gene]

Berad, it shows up in this gif, but it shows up better in the "Wired" episode of that shot to the face of Jerrigan by Brady boy!  I've never seen a QB play the game that doesn't think he needs to ever get tackled, lmao! This guy is such a prima donna it is laughable! Someone should remind him its football!  Honestly, I would hate to play with him and have to defend his crap all the time, that has got to get old really quick.

But, but, but...  That guy???  He poked me in the eye!!! 

[The Mom Gene]

lol.........losing Cary Williams wouldn't have been a big deal or changed the outcome of the game.

 

Problem is when we lost Cary Williams and Corey Graham.... we kept 4 corners...  One was suspended (Asa), one had back spasms and leg issues (Webby) and was out.  Two were hurt in a span of 3 weeks (Jimmy and Chykie), and then we get Webby back....  and the other wound up hurt after he came back from suspension (Asa)... It was a Carousel of Corners....  We didn't keep enough depth...  but who would have thought we needed that much depth?  Sure as heck not me!!!