Ray Lewis delivers speech to Indy team.

[The Mom Gene]

did Irsay ask him to do it?

He's probably the one who PAID him.  If he was paid at all.

[Tru11]

ravensdfan, on 10 Jan 2015 - 6:56 PM, said:

Doesn't matter who asked him to do it. It was a poor decision, not well thought out. Indy is Indy and that leaves a bad taste in the mouth of many many Ravens' fans.

Ray is well aware of that legacy as well since he was part of that rebirth of football and spent all those years here.

 

I'm sure no disrespect was intended - I don't think anyone has claimed otherwise - but it is Ray not thinking outside Ray, which he sometimes does.

 

 JoeyFlex5 worded it pretty good.

[The Mom Gene]

i was just pointing out that they are one of the many teams that have a fire sale with our leftovers lol, i dont feel any kind of spite about it. pagano is a very high character guy, he is a guy you wanna root for regardless of who hes with, he got a HC job and he recruited who he thought he would succeed with, no harm in that imo, he has to look out for himself as a first time HC, he doesnt wanna fail at his new job and he needs the supporting cast, its all in the game, nearly all first time HC's find at least one person that they are familiar with to come with them to their new job.

And we'll probably have to play them next week....

[ravensdfan]

 

 JoeyFlex5 worded it pretty good.

No he didn't. Spoken like a true youngun' who wasn't around to see the devastation when it happened.

 

It isn't legacy breaking - no one thinks he intended any disrespect - but it is still a poor decision on his part given the history with Indy.

[Tru11]

He's probably the one who PAID him.  If he was paid at all.

 

You don't know if Irsay asked him, you don't know if Irsay paid him , yet you react like he did this for Irsay?

[JoeyFlex5]

No he didn't. Spoken like a true youngun' who wasn't around to see the devastation when it happened.

 

It isn't legacy breaking - no one thinks he intended any disrespect - but it is still a poor decision on his part given the history with Indy.

spoken like a true youngun, yes i am young and wasnt around for it, but really its been 30 years, 30 YEARS since the colts left, we have become one of the juggernauts of the league in our short time here, the youngest franchise in nfl history to win a super bowl in 2000, in 4 more years we will already have 3 hall of famers, we just won a super bowl 2 seasons ago and are competing for one again, all this in only 18 years of existence, how much more will it take for you former colts fans to get over it? irsay is the devil of the nfl and i understand that, the whole family should be in jail in one way or another, but its the ownership you should hate, not the team, so instead of being condescending because im not some old timer who was around for the colts, why dont you open your eyes, like i said, and realize that these are the indianapolis colts, not the baltimore colts who up and rolled out on us, and let go of this 30 year old grudge and a move on, hate the irsays all you want, but to speak ill of ray lewis because hes simply giving a speech for his old coach, is just silly.

[ratedr]

spoken like a true youngun, yes i am young and wasnt around for it, but really its been 30 years, 30 YEARS since the colts left, we have become one of the juggernauts of the league in our short time here, the youngest franchise in nfl history to win a super bowl in 2000, in 4 more years we will already have 3 hall of famers, we just won a super bowl 2 seasons ago and are competing for one again, all this in only 18 years of existence, how much more will it take for you former colts fans to get over it? irsay is the devil of the nfl and i understand that, the whole family should be in jail in one way or another, but its the ownership you should hate, not the team, so instead of being condescending because im not some old timer who was around for the colts, why dont you open your eyes, like i said, and realize that these are the indianapolis colts, not the baltimore colts who up and rolled out on us, and let go of this 30 year old grudge and a move on, hate the irsays all you want, but to speak ill of ray lewis because hes simply giving a speech for his old coach, is just silly.

Agreed.

 

Also, the Colts have officially been in Indy longer than they were in Baltimore, as of this year.

 

The Ravens are a more successful franchise than the Colts. Of course, I wasn't around in 1984 so it's easy for me to say "it's time to let it go," but come on. It is what it is. Pagano is a friend.

[ravensdfan]

spoken like a true youngun, yes i am young and wasnt around for it, but really its been 30 years, 30 YEARS since the colts left, we have become one of the juggernauts of the league in our short time here, the youngest franchise in nfl history to win a super bowl in 2000, in 4 more years we will already have 3 hall of famers, we just won a super bowl 2 seasons ago and are competing for one again, all this in only 18 years of existence, how much more will it take for you former colts fans to get over it? irsay is the devil of the nfl and i understand that, the whole family should be in jail in one way or another, but its the ownership you should hate, not the team, so instead of being condescending because im not some old timer who was around for the colts, why dont you open your eyes, like i said, and realize that these are the indianapolis colts, not the baltimore colts who up and rolled out on us, and let go of this 30 year old grudge and a move on, hate the irsays all you want, but to speak ill of ray lewis because hes simply giving a speech for his old coach, is just silly.

Again, don't speak on things you know nothing about because you weren't around for them. And don't tell people who did live through those things how they should feel about them.

 

It's funny how the younguns are getting so defensive when not a soul said it was an intentional disrespect or any legacy breaking thing.

 

Ray is not a god. He made a poor decision given the history between Baltimore & Indy during a post season run that the Ravens are also in. Period. It was a poor decision.

[JoeyFlex5]

Again, don't speak on things you know nothing about because you weren't around for them. And don't tell people who did live through those things how they should feel about them.

 

It's funny how the younguns are getting so defensive when not a soul said it was an intentional disrespect or any legacy breaking thing.

 

Ray is not a god. He made a poor decision given the history between Baltimore & Indy during a post season run that the Ravens are also in. Period. It was a poor decision.

i dont see it as a poor decision, i see it as a standup move and a favor he is doing for an old friend and former mentor. 

 

also i have grandparents in their 70's that i am very close with, they were my age during the unitas era, they took road trips to all around the country to watch unitas play in key games, they saw "the greatest game ever played" live, they are about as die hard as an old colts fan can be, they acknowledge that chuck pagano and the colts isnt the problem, it is the irsays, they arent holding any grudge to the colts, and most of the old colts fans i know personally are the same way, they have completely gotten over it and are happy with having a far superior franchise. 

 

just think, if the colts stayed, we would have a team owned by the irsays, instead of the best owner in football in steve bisciotti.

[K-Dog]

Not to further the derail, but imagine if you will.

Middle of the night the Ravens roll out to.... say New Mexico. And they leave nothing nothing nothing behind.

No warning. Just boom. Gone.

You want me to believe you would not be bitter?

[Tru11]

No he didn't. Spoken like a true youngun' who wasn't around to see the devastation when it happened.

 

It isn't legacy breaking - no one thinks he intended any disrespect - but it is still a poor decision on his part given the history with Indy.

 

Ma`am not to be disrespectfull but their are far worst things in life then a team leaving a city.

 

If this is the most devastating thing you ever experienced then you should by all means consider yourself a lucky and blessed person.

 

Where I was born and raised we had other things on our mind lol.

 

So yeah lets just agree we will differ on this.

 

I see no problem in a person grating a friends request and as a ray lewis homer ill gladly believe he was doing this for Chuck and not the colts/Irsay.

 

If afterwards comes out Irsay was the 1 who asked him ill gladly take back what I said change it to `` it was a poor decision```.

[JoeyFlex5]

Not to further the derail, but imagine if you will.

Middle of the night the Ravens roll out to.... say New Mexico. And they leave nothing nothing nothing behind.

No warning. Just boom. Gone.

You want me to believe you would not be bitter?

id certainly be bitter, and would not root for them, and my opinion of bisciotti would change heavily, but 30 years from now if baltimore got another team that quickly established itself as one of the top ogranizations in the league and the team in new mexico is plagued by horrible ownership, after 30 years when that team is completely gone and all the coaches and players are retired, i think id let it go. now if we never got another team, or if the team we received were annual cellar-dwellers, it would be a different story, but i think our franchise is so far superior to the colts that we should be laughing in their faces instead of holding a grudge and hating them.

[ravensdfan]

Ma`am not to be disrespectfull but their are far worst things in life then a team leaving a city.

 

If this is the most devastating thing you ever experienced then you should by all means consider yourself a lucky and blessed person.

 

Where I was born and raised we had other things on our mind lol.

 

So yeah lets just agree we will differ on this.

 

I see no problem in a person grating a friends request and as a ray lewis homer ill gladly believe he was doing this for Chuck and not the colts/Irsay.

 

If afterwards comes out Irsay was the 1 who asked him ill gladly take back what I said change it to `` it was a poor decision```.

I guess I'm not being clear. No one believes he did it for Irsay. It doesn't matter. He is well aware of the history between Indy and Baltimore. Well aware how some Ravens' fans would feel about it.

Done in the heart of a post season run where Indy is a team that stands in their way.

 

Poor , not well thought out decision.

[JO_75]

If Harbaugh had called in Ray to give us a speech I'm sure he would've been there in a heartbeat. Truth is, imo, if you need outside motivation to win a Playoff game in the NFL you've already lost. 

 

The fact they aren't motivated enough to do it for Chuck after what he went through with the cancer and being in the hospital and not on the sideline. The fact they aren't motivated enough to win another Super Bowl already, and need to bring in Ray says they aren't ready to be a Super Bowl team. 

[MTRavensFan]

The fact they aren't motivated enough to do it for Chuck after what he went through with the cancer and being in the hospital and not on the sideline. The fact they aren't motivated enough to win another Super Bowl already, and need to bring in Ray says they aren't ready to be a Super Bowl team. 

 

Post of the day.

[The Mom Gene]

You don't know if Irsay asked him, you don't know if Irsay paid him , yet you react like he did this for Irsay?

Doesn't matter... He did it for Irsay's team...  Pagano may run it, but Irsay owns it...

 

and straight fact is, like I said...  We win...  Colts win..  We're playing them next week...  and oh yeah, what JO_75 said.

[Tru11]

ravensdfan, on 10 Jan 2015 - 8:01 PM, said:

I guess I'm not being clear. No one believes he did it for Irsay. It doesn't matter. He is well aware of the history between Indy and Baltimore. Well aware how some Ravens' fans would feel about it.

Done in the heart of a post season run where Indy is a team that stands in their way.

 

Poor , not well thought out decision.

 

you have the right to your opinion.

 

I don't agree at all.

[TDubbs]

The fact they aren't motivated enough to do it for Chuck after what he went through with the cancer and being in the hospital and not on the sideline. The fact they aren't motivated enough to win another Super Bowl already, and need to bring in Ray says they aren't ready to be a Super Bowl team. 

 

Yep, my line of thinking exactly. Moreover, it speaks to how motivated Chuck thinks his team is and he's looking for a spark. 

[ravensdfan]

you have the right to your opinion.

 

I don't agree at all.

well just in case you think others haven't noticed:

 

"the beauty of it is that his former team, the Ravens, are also playing"

"Dude gave a motivational speech to the Colts, while his former team is still alive in the same conference. Lolz."

 

Thanks Ray for the laughs directed our way. smh

 

piss poor decision all the way around.

[Tank 92]

And we'll probably have to play them next week....

 

 

That's why Ray did it.  He knew we'd rather play the colts than the broncs.  

[Ravenatic20]

I'm not offended by Ray giving them a speech - who cares?  If he did it to the Ravens next opponent I would be offended but otherwise I don't care.  I also agree that we need to separate from Ray a little, at least for now.  Let Harbaugh and company keep themselves going.  After 7 or 8 years into retirement I hope to see Ray around the castle more, but for now step back.

 

As far as Isray / Colts - let it go.  Put all of your effort into the Ravens.

[The Mom Gene]

Some people like this, some people don't...

[edreed2o]

I dont like it at all but theres nothing we can do about it. If hes willing to give a speech to the colts then what other team would he help motivate? Steelers? Broncos? Patriots? It just disgusts me to be honest. I dont know why it erks me this much but it does. Especially knowing "your" team, with your statue in front of the stadium, is in the running as well. Hell, maybe he'll motivate them more if we travel to Indy next week? Why not?

[Tru11]

ravensdfan, on 10 Jan 2015 - 8:34 PM, said:

well just in case you think others haven't noticed:

 

"the beauty of it is that his former team, the Ravens, are also playing"

"Dude gave a motivational speech to the Colts, while his former team is still alive in the same conference. Lolz."

 

Thanks Ray for the laughs directed our way. smh

 

piss poor decision all the way around.

 

I don't see it that way at all.

[edreed2o]

I'm not offended by Ray giving them a speech - who cares? If he did it to the Ravens next opponent I would be offended but otherwise I don't care. I also agree that we need to separate from Ray a little, at least for now. Let Harbaugh and company keep themselves going. After 7 or 8 years into retirement I hope to see Ray around the castle more, but for now step back.

As far as Isray / Colts - let it go. Put all of your effort into the Ravens.

The Colts could quite possibly be our next opponent...

[DefensiveMind]

Not a big deal, Chuck probably asked him to and they arent playing us so its nothing personal. 

[Ravenslifer]

I suppose it's kind of cool that Pags has that kind of respect for Ray that he'd call Ray in.  But as far as the Ravens are concerned, if we need anybody outside of the locker room to deliver some kind of motivational speech, IMO we don't deserve to call ourselves Superbowl contenders.  I don't know what Ray actually said, but if it was a pep talk, my thoughts are simply that if I was an NFL player playing for what I believed was a contender, why would I need any voice outside of everyday locker room voices for motivational speeches?

[The Raven]

Motivational speeches are overrated. By the time you get to the field, you forget about the speech and just worry about kicking the crap out of the other guy. Speeches are dumb. 

 

Also, Ray is a grown man, so I'm not gonna say he made a mistake by giving the Colts a stupid little speech that probably didn't make sense anyway. 

[The Raven]

I'm not offended by Ray giving them a speech - who cares?  If he did it to the Ravens next opponent I would be offended but otherwise I don't care.  I also agree that we need to separate from Ray a little, at least for now.  Let Harbaugh and company keep themselves going.  After 7 or 8 years into retirement I hope to see Ray around the castle more, but for now step back.

 

As far as Isray / Colts - let it go.  Put all of your effort into the Ravens.

 

This sums up my thoughts. We need to let Ray be Ray. He's not our mascot. We don't own him. I also agree with letting go of the bitterness to the Colts. I think I read once that this Irsay was very against the move to Indianapolis. Nobody is left from the team that left. I can't continue feeling bitter about that. Not to mention... We do have a team now... Only grief is that our records are Indy's now, and that's lame.

 

The Colts could quite possibly be our next opponent...

 

But not this week. And like I said, speeches don't matter anyway.

[fake punt]

I suppose it's kind of cool that Pags has that kind of respect for Ray that he'd call Ray in.  

 

Serious question. Do you guys actually like that idiotic, self-centered dance Ray Lewis opened each game with? That crap would not fly with almost any other NFL organization. The man was a great linebacker, but not at all my kind of guy.