Updated: Who Should Be Our Next OC? It's Trestman

[rmcjacket23]

2014 stats :

 

22,2 runs / game...

30 out of 32 teams

 

1441 rushing yards

27 out of 32 teams

 

avg 4,1/run

16 out of 32 teams

 

so run game was pretty good just wasnt using it because they were trailing and bad playcalling. I've watched a lot of Bears football because I'm from Canada and I saw Trestman during his 3 yeards here.. sure wasnt the same rules but he was a weird playcaller. he had Calvillo which help a lot. His passing games used the larger field a lot. He's soft and Flacco will love that but Steve Smith won't.

 

AFC North is all about smathmouth football so I don't know if Trestman is the right guy. Even if you lose by 10 you HAVE to run the ball. Flacco stats against Dime/quarter defense are horrible. He needs a good running game to help his passing game. 

Agreed, but Trestman isn't the HC here either, so even the OC has to sort of answer to the HC if the gameplan isn't being followed. If Trestman comes out the first few weeks and Joe's throwing 50 passes a game and we are losing, I have no doubt Harbaugh will force changes to the gameplan.

 

Keep in mind that falling behind early and by a lot in a game is generally a combination of 1. ineffective offensive production early and 2. poor defensive play (among other possible factors, like turnovers).

 

Our defense is far from great, but its a lot better than the Bears was, and pretty typically in the Harbaugh era, we aren't the kind of teaming falling behind by 14 points or more in the first half.

 

I think the volume of the rushing attack will still be adequate (though probably not as much as Kubiak's), but it still comes down to execution. Running the ball 20-25 times on a team that can't block and can't run (see 2013) doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. I have no reason to suspect that will be the case in 2015.

Edited January 21, 2015 by rmcjacket23

[hawkprey]

I'm glad so many of you know our run game is going to go to crap. That makes me question Trestman's tactics. Why break Yanda's legs and kick KO off the team? Why bring back O'Neil Cousins and bench Wagner? And why would he sign my uncle to play runningback when we have a perfectly good one in Forsett? Very questionable stuff, in my opinion.

[1/28/01]

I'm sorry, but are some complaining of the potential for a dink and dunk offense? I welcome that with open arms!

[ratedr]

you guys should go to the NFL.Com article and see what fans from other teams are saying. A lot of Steelers fans say this was a good hire. Flacco also getting alot of praise even from ughhh pat fans.

Pats fans probably have more respect for Flacco than another other fanbase really.

[Gordo52]

Link please? Not all forums are as easy to navigate through like the Ravens haha

Sorry, didn't even bother since the site contains profanity and my post would likely get removed...

Chicitysports.com --- "TRESTMAN TO RAVENS AS OC" is the thread.

[Inqui]

Sorry, didn't even bother since the site contains profanity and my post would likely get removed...

Chicitysports.com --- "TRESTMAN TO RAVENS AS OC" is the thread.

Was at the bottom of the first page of the Bears forum when I got there, so it might be on the second page.

[rmcjacket23]

Why do we care about what Bears fans say about him again?

[Inqui]

Why do we care about what Bears fans say about him again?

You're no fun.

[1/28/01]

You're no fun.

Ha.

[StingerNLG]

Guys, keep in mind the perception of the Bears and Trestman being pass-happy comes from the fact that their defense also sucked and they spent many quarters having to play catch-up.    When you are down 31-17 in the 3rd quarter to the Packers, you abandon the run.   When you're down 21-7 in the 3rd quarter to the Dolphins, you abandon the run.

 

They played from behind a LOT last year.   So they had no choice but to pass a lot more than they probably wanted to.   So I wouldn't mark that as a tendancy from Trestman just yet.

[The Raven]

I'm sorry, but are some complaining of the potential for a dink and dunk offense? I welcome that with open arms!

 

Apparently we aren't built for it, even though we did it this year...

[Gordo52]

Why do we care about what Bears fans say about him again?

Might find stuff we don't know about him over there. They do know him very welll... Lighten up, John Boehner.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Apparently we aren't built for it, even though we did it this year...

I thought this was balatantly obvious? 

 

We weren't exactly an attacking offense. Efficient? Very, most games. Not really aggressive. 

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Might find stuff we don't know about him over there. They do know him very welll... Lighten up, John Boehner.

Their brains are probably frozen from the cold. 

[Bmoreazfan]

I am not at all excited about this like I was with the Kubiak hire because I knew what to expect. I think Oz and company picked him specifically because he was the safe conservative pick that will stick around for a bit (Oz already knew him well also). I don't think we were ready to turn our Offense over to the likes of Gase regardless if he is or isn't the next great up and coming HC.

 

I will trust the brass on this one until they prove me wrong. But I expect the standards to have been set high and any decrease in production = new OC

[rmcjacket23]

Might find stuff we don't know about him over there. They do know him very welll... Lighten up, John Boehner.

Or, we might find some bitter fans who just don't like it when things don't go their way...

 

... sort of like what Broncos fans who come on these boards to find out "information" about Kubiak would see...

[1/28/01]

Apparently we aren't built for it, even though we did it this year...

I'm all for it (again). Joe excels in the short to intermediate throws. It's no shock to anyone that I cringe when a 40+ yarder is tossed. I'll take a dink and dunk and occasional kill shot offense all day long.

[rmcjacket23]

I am not at all excited about this like I was with the Kubiak hire because I knew what to expect. I think Oz and company picked him specifically because he was the safe conservative pick that will stick around for a bit (Oz already knew him well also). I don't think we were ready to turn our Offense over to the likes of Gase regardless if he is or isn't the next great up and coming HC.

 

I will trust the brass on this one until they prove me wrong. But I expect the standards to have been set high and any decrease in production = new OC

Well, decrease in production is also mostly based on the execution and talent of the players in the offense. Coaches coach and players play.

[The Raven]

Dink and dunk is the formula for success. Just ask the Patriots.

[Cville-Raven]

I'm ok with this considering who was available. Should be interesting to see if he uses the ZBS. 

[Dewy101]

Agreed, but Trestman isn't the HC here either, so even the OC has to sort of answer to the HC if the gameplan isn't being followed. If Trestman comes out the first few weeks and Joe's throwing 50 passes a game and we are losing, I have no doubt Harbaugh will force changes to the gameplan.

Keep in mind that falling behind early and by a lot in a game is generally a combination of 1. ineffective offensive production early and 2. poor defensive play (among other possible factors, like turnovers).

Our defense is far from great, but its a lot better than the Bears was, and pretty typically in the Harbaugh era, we aren't the kind of teaming falling behind by 14 points or more in the first half.

I think the volume of the rushing attack will still be adequate (though probably not as much as Kubiak's), but it still comes down to execution. Running the ball 20-25 times on a team that can't block and can't run (see 2013) doesn't make a whole lot of sense either. I have no reason to suspect that will be the case in 2015.

Agreed but our defense was great for the 1st seven weeks of course. We're just a solid CB and an Elams progression away from being great.

[Cville-Raven]

Dink and dunk is the formula for success. Just ask the Patriots.

Dink, dunk, and deflate...lol Am I right???

Edited January 21, 2015 by Cville-Raven

[Bmoreazfan]

Well, decrease in production is also mostly based on the execution and talent of the players in the offense. Coaches coach and players play.

Good point, guess I should have said if we are consistently getting out coached offensively like the old days = new OC

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

Dink, dunk, and deflate...lol Am I right???

Too soon and you should be ashamed... LOL

[Dewy101]

Sorry, didn't even bother since the site contains profanity and my post would likely get removed...

Chicitysports.com --- "TRESTMAN TO RAVENS AS OC" is the thread.

Thanks. Haha jealous they get to use profanity.

[ravensdfan]

I'm sorry, but are some complaining of the potential for a dink and dunk offense? I welcome that with open arms!

Not complaining about the potential - it requires timing, screens are a big part of it as well. We do not do screens well. Timing routes do not seem to go well for us. We do not have that receiving RB threat for checkdowns.

 

Not sure we have the right personnel in place to efficiently run a dink & dunk offense.

[ravensdfan]

Dink and dunk is the formula for success. Just ask the Patriots.

For them with their personnel.

[allblackraven]

If we all want to be honest - Trestman over Shannahan and especially Gase was probably the easiest hire Ozzie, Steve and Harbs ever did. Just reading through their resumes makes it a no-brainer.

[LosT_in_TranSlatioN]

We ran a dink and dunk last year and if not for injuries in the secondary, would probably be in the super bowl right now. We lose Torrey, who's not really that suited for a dink and dunk offense... 

 

We can run it. Our offense was not the problem this past season.. We should pick up a #1 WR, but if we pick up a few quality weapons we'll be fine. 

Edited January 21, 2015 by LosT_in_TranSlatioN

[Inqui]

Who was it that suggested reading the comments of NFL.com?

 

Ravens have a history of hiring losers and the following seasons are than predictable. They hired Cam Cameron as OC in 2008, ex-head coach of Miami and Miami only won one game that year, the worst record in the NFL and Miami's 40 year franchise. Ravens hired Cam as OC on 2008. The Ravens O struggled and he was fired and replaced by Jim Caldwell. After Caldwell left to head the Lions 2013, the Ravens get another loser in Kubiak fired from Houston which only won 2 games in 2013. Now the Ravens throw the ring around Mark Trestman, another loser with the Bears. Predictabily, history repeats itself and the Ravens will struggle again on offense. The Ravens will rise to SB status again when there is continuity on the Offensive line and that starts with the OC. Ozzie N. should have went to the NCAAF for a coach from the Tide, Ducks, Buckeyes for new blood rather that getting recycled NFL coaches.

 

 

Madness and stupidity.