Ready For The Dolphins?

[neepo13]

[quote name='soflaraven' post='115446' date='Dec 31 2008, 06:47 PM']The Dolphins are the best team we've beat. There's a thread about it[/quote]

The Ravens have also beaten 3 NFC East teams and the Texans, who the Dolphins lost to. The only playoff team the Dolphins have beat, is the 8-8 team from the worst division in football. Like I said, the Ravens are much more battle tested.

[Ronnie Brown # 23]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115450' date='Dec 31 2008, 06:53 PM']The Ravens have also beaten 3 NFC East teams and the Texans, who the Dolphins lost to. The only playoff team the Dolphins have beat, is the 8-8 team from the worst division in football. Like I said, the Ravens are much more battle tested.[/quote]

Dolphins have won 2 games against teams with winning records, Ravens have won 3, not much of a "battle tested" difference and outside of the Giants i think the NFC East is the most inconsistant division in football, you never know what team your going to get, either you get the team they can be or they play like **** so to me that's not much of an accomplishment.

[soflaraven]

[quote name='neepo13' post='115450' date='Dec 31 2008, 06:53 PM']The Ravens have also beaten 3 NFC East teams and the Texans, who the Dolphins lost to. The only playoff team the Dolphins have beat, is the 8-8 team from the worst division in football. Like I said, the Ravens are much more battle tested.[/quote]
They've beat the Jets and Patriots, who are not in the playoffs, but are still over .500

[flynismo]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115569' date='Dec 31 2008, 10:16 PM']Dolphins have won 2 games against teams with winning records, Ravens have won 3, not much of a "battle tested" difference and outside of the Giants i think the NFC East is the most inconsistant division in football, you never know what team your going to get, either you get the team they can be or they play like **** so to me that's not much of an accomplishment.[/quote]



[b]Baltimore:[/b]

Games against playoff teams - 7
Games against teams with sub-.500 records - 6

[b]Miami:[/b]

Games against playoff teams - 3
Games against teams with sub .500 records - 8

I think it's very clear that our road to 11-5 and the playoffs was much tougher than yours.

[Fin Fan In Cali]

[quote name='Moderator 2' post='115287' date='Dec 31 2008, 02:23 PM']Dear Dolphin Fans you are quite welcome to post here but this is NOT a post disturbing video board OR a trash talking board--thanks[/quote]Sorry about that. Not all of us Dolphin fans are here to talk smack and cause trouble.

[bossman419]

I don't see Flacco getting rattled in Miami. He's played in Dallas and Pittsburgh, in big time games. He really didn't look "rattled" to me

[Ronnie Brown # 23]

[quote name='flynismo' post='115738' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:21 PM'][b]Baltimore:[/b]

Games against playoff teams - 7
Games against teams with sub-.500 records - 6

[b]Miami:[/b]

Games against playoff teams - 3
Games against teams with sub .500 records - 8

I think it's very clear that our road to 11-5 and the playoffs was much tougher than yours.[/quote]

Ok but you should include the Patriots who have a better record then 4 of the 8 playoff teams, just because they didn't make the playoffs due to tiebreakers doesn't make them a playoff caliber team. I never said that you didn't have a tougher road but the truth is that the teams you beat are no better then the teams we beat, yes you lost to better teams, nobodys ever said you didn't but the point is that you LOST to them so there isn't really an arguement here?

[smashmouth]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115744' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:01 PM']Ok but you should include the Patriots who have a better record then 4 of the 8 playoff teams, just because they didn't make the playoffs due to tiebreakers doesn't make them a playoff caliber team. I never said that you didn't have a tougher road but the truth is that the teams you beat are no better then the teams we beat, yes you lost to better teams, nobodys ever said you didn't but the point is that you LOST to them so there isn't really an arguement here?[/quote]
The Pats is a good team, and you guys beat them, YAY, they are in your division, You know them as well as they do. Thats just as bad as us last year. We beat the Steelers in the last game, We almost took the number one Offense EVER down when we played the pats. Theat diddnt make us a good team. I'll give you guys this,You deseave to be in the playoffs, and probally would go further if It was any team but the Ravens. Us and the Steelers are the most dangerous in the AFC period. Colts could beat any of us two, and i think anyone else (including you)can beat The colts.

[bossman419]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115744' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:01 PM']Ok but you should include the Patriots who have a better record then 4 of the 8 playoff teams, just because they didn't make the playoffs due to tiebreakers doesn't make them a playoff caliber team. I never said that you didn't have a tougher road but the truth is that the teams you beat are no better then the teams we beat, yes you lost to better teams, nobodys ever said you didn't but the point is that you LOST to them so there isn't really an arguement here?[/quote]
Yes there is are argument here. The Ravens went to the wire with the Steelers and the Titans. Arguably two of the best teams in the playoffs. The Ravens are battle tested, and have played more quality teams. Would you rather go 11-5 playing cupcakes or playing good teams?

[smashmouth]

[quote name='bossman419' post='115742' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:57 PM']I don't see Flacco getting rattled in Miami. He's played in Dallas and Pittsburgh, in big time games. He really didn't look "rattled" to me[/quote]
ha, MIA defense is chump change compared to the defense's we faced this year. Including the time we played them this year, Flacco had a good day, although He got sacked 5 times.

[macbrak]

I've yet to see Flacco get rattled. Every team has made a point of trying to "get the rookie rattled". He's made rookie mistakes (ball protection mainly), but has never lost his cool.

[bossman419]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='115751' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:13 PM']ha, MIA defense is chump change compared to the defense's we faced this year. Including the time we played them this year, Flacco had a good day, although He got sacked 5 times.[/quote]
nah they are "new and improved". lol. A new and improved Miami defense shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the Ravens, Steelers, Eagles, and Cowboys defenses. I don't mean disrespect, Its the truth.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115744' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:01 PM']Ok but you should include the Patriots who have a better record then 4 of the 8 playoff teams, just because they didn't make the playoffs due to tiebreakers doesn't make them a playoff caliber team. I never said that you didn't have a tougher road but the truth is that the teams you beat are no better then the teams we beat, yes you lost to better teams, nobodys ever said you didn't but the point is that you LOST to them so there isn't really an arguement here?[/quote]
Include the Pats who played the same creme puff schedule that the Dolphins played?

[smashmouth]

[quote name='bossman419' post='115756' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:27 PM']nah they are "new and improved". lol. A new and improved Miami defense shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence with the Ravens, Steelers, Eagles, and Cowboys defenses. I don't mean disrespect, Its the truth.[/quote]
HAHA lets see how "new" they are when they have our very own 260 POUND brusier Mcclain runing it down there throat all day!! They need about another 10 all stars on defense to be mentioned in the same sentence IMO, but thats just my 2 cents.

[Fin Fan In Cali]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='115763' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:39 PM']HAHA lets see how "new" they are when they have our very own 260 POUND brusier Mcclain runing it down there throat all day!! They need about another 10 all stars on defense to be mentioned in the same sentence IMO, but thats just my 2 cents.[/quote]Please be aware when we played last both 1st and 2nd string DT's for us did not play.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115767' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:47 PM']Please be aware when we played last both 1st and 2nd string DT's for us did not play.[/quote]
Lets not go into injurys please? We have some huge injurys also.. as does most teams. One reason why we was 5-11 and you guys was 1-15 last year was injurys.. Gregg our starting NT/DT is on IR, Our number 1 CB.. IR, our starting SS, IR.. our backup to our number one CB is also had injurys. We still can pound the rock with the best of the run defenses, and because you guys are getting your DT's back is not going to make a huge difference.

[Fin Fan In Cali]

[quote name='smashmouth' post='115772' date='Jan 1 2009, 02:53 PM']Lets not go into injurys please? We have some huge injurys also.. as does most teams. One reason why we was 5-11 and you guys was 1-15 last year was injurys.. Gregg our starting NT/DT is on IR, Our number 1 CB.. IR, our starting SS, IR.. our backup to our number one CB is also had injurys. We still can pound the rock with the best of the run defenses, and because you guys are getting your DT's back is not going to make a huge difference.[/quote]Please do not get so cocky, I am not here for that. If you did your research one was hurt, and the other one was suspended. The arrogance that you post with, probably keeps a lot of the better Dolphin fans from posting here. It is a shame because your site could be so much better with football talk. To say a teams starting DT being in the lineup will not make a difference, is silly.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115767' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:47 PM']Please be aware when we played last both 1st and 2nd string DT's for us did not play.[/quote]

Whatever, more then 2 players contributed to us being able to run against you guys. Regardless of whether you had your best two tackles or not up front or not, there are 9 other guys on the field that could have made a play, maybe even 10 depending on what scheme you run.

Both our starting corners were down that game and our starting SS was out. While Ed Reed and Fabian Washington were playing injured. Thats 3/4 of the starting secondary OUT. The only starter that played was playing with a career threatening neck injury and one of the back ups was also playing with a neck injury, but we still managed to get the win. So forgive me, if I am not very sympathetic about your two starting DT's being out. Seeing as how our secondary has been ravaged by injury not only in that game but all season.

[neepo13]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115775' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:58 PM']Please do not get so cocky, I am not here for that. If you did your research one was hurt, and the other one was suspended. The arrogance that you post with, probably keeps a lot of the better Dolphin fans from posting here. It is a shame because your site could be so much better with football talk. To say a teams starting DT being in the lineup will not make a difference, is silly.[/quote]

I dont think he's saying that all. I think he's stating fact, every team has key injuries every season. The Dolphins are not the only team that have had to play a game depleted a one position. Pittsburgh has played with their 3rd string running back and practice squad players behind him all season. The Ravens have had 3 starters from its secondary go down this season. The Colts have had a patch work offensive line due to injuries all season, but they still found a way to win. So, lay off of the injury excuse please. Yeah, they would have made a differene but so would us having all our guys in our secondary healthy.

[smashmouth]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115775' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:58 PM']Please do not get so cocky, I am not here for that. If you did your research one was hurt, and the other one was suspended. The arrogance that you post with, probably keeps a lot of the better Dolphin fans from posting here. It is a shame because your site could be so much better with football talk. To say a teams starting DT being in the lineup will not make a difference, is silly.[/quote]

I diddnt say it wouldent make a difference, I said It wouldent make THAT much of a difference.. And just like I said, yes your 2 starting DT's was out.. with them in how much better does you defense get? maybe 1 spot? Im not being rude to you Im just asking. your backups may not be as good as your starters, but there still NFL players.

Besides Ravens fans love our football talk, we take after our defense, cocky and can back it up! Lets make some noise Ravens fans!!

[macbrak]

We've managed to get the fourth most yards rushing in the league while playing against 7 teams (and 8 games, 1/2 the season) ranked in the top 10 against the rush. Miami is number ten on that list, something not to take lightly, but I'm pretty sure we can run on you 100% healthy.

We keep the smack down here, that doesn't means we accept opposing fans with flowers and chocolates. We have regular steeler fans that are active participants and manage to have a decent dialogue with I think that speaks more about the atmosphere here then anything else.

While I hope our team respects Miami more then the members of this board, because healthy respect is a good thing, nothing I've seen or heard from Miami suggests anything but a Ravens win. Again I could be wrong and we could fall apart, but if they play ravens football there is no way they can lose against Miami.

[Chi_Town_Raven]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115775' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:58 PM']Please do not get so cocky, I am not here for that. If you did your research one was hurt, and the other one was suspended. The arrogance that you post with, probably keeps a lot of the better Dolphin fans from posting here. It is a shame because your site could be so much better with football talk. To say a teams starting DT being in the lineup will not make a difference, is silly.[/quote]


You are the last one to talk about injuries. Yes I know that two DTs were out when we played you. But we lost Landry, McAllister, Rolle, basically our whole O line, K Gregg, and our starting quarterback is playing by DEFAULT. Flacco has gotten so much better, and plays well on the road, very well. When we beat you, it wasn't because we were running down your throat. We literally dismantled you on the screen pass. So down come up in here and make half ****** excuses. We beat you badly. Your defense has gotten much worse than when we played you. The only thing I'm worried about is Joey Porter. I'm not being cocky, I'm telling you like it is. I understand football better than most. Injuries are part of your team. You can't blame it on injuries. You invest in a player, and if they get hurt, then it's just like them performing badly, it's not our fault.

[Moderator 2]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115739' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:33 PM']Sorry about that. Not all of us Dolphin fans are here to talk smack and cause trouble. [/quote]
We realize that We enjoyed having ya'll here before.



Injuries to this team is something the media never mentions, what are we up to 18-19 on IR? 3 defensive starters, 2 # 2's in the secondary and a starting O-lineman, McCune went on this week. Rolle had neck surgery, Gaither was playing hurt then there is Ed Reed playing with his neck issue. I can not imagine what this team would be with everyone healthy. Not making excuses but this shows the heart and moxey and strength of will of this team.

[wayne]

[quote name='Fin Fan In Cali' post='115775' date='Jan 1 2009, 12:58 PM'][b]Please do not get so cocky[/b], I am not here for that. If you did your research one was hurt, and the other one was suspended. [b]The arrogance that you post with, probably keeps a lot of the better Dolphin fans from posting here.[/b] It is a shame because your site could be so much better with football talk. To say a teams starting DT being in the lineup will not make a difference, is silly.[/quote]


First off, how are we suppose to be about this matter, humble? When was arrogance a bad thing when it came to sports? I want my team and me to feel like they are going to win every time they step out on the field, not doubt theirselves!

It's called SWAGGER like one of your fellow comrades said on your website and the best has that type of cocky, arrogance swagger (Micheal Jordan, Kobe Bryant, Randy Moss, Ladanian Tolmison, Barry Bonds, etc...)

Please stop it with the "Cocky/Arrogance" deal b/c most of this game is played mentally also and to feel Confident/Arrogant is a good thing in sports, especially when you can back it up!

[itscbm5042]

I'm almost positive that most of these Phins fans playing up the rookie angle haven't even seen Joe play outside of his NFL highlights. For them, of all teams, to say they can fluster Joe and make him lose his composure is just ill informed and ignorant. He has faced the Steelers defense twice, he has faced the Titans, the Giants, the Cowboys, the Eagles COME ON and the Dolphins...come on really the Dolphins? Are going to get him frustrated and play like a rookie? They really are living in a fantasy world or are completely delusional. The only indication that this phins team is "new and improved (lol)" is their record against a much softer schedule. Where as the Ravens have specific areas they have improved:

1. Dolphins didn't even face LeRon McClain! Yes 10TD 900YD bulldozer LeRon McClain. He had 5 carries for 17 yards in the first matchup lol
2. Our secondary is now the 2nd or 3rd best pass defense in the NFL
3. Mark Clayton is much improved and has been making incredible plays for weeks now, he hadn't developed a rapport with Joe by week 5
4. Joe Flacco has had 17 weeks of experience vs 5 as a rookie
5. The leadership and experience on our team far outweighs the Dolphins

[Chi_Town_Raven]

Yes, I want us to win every week. But I am not arrogant. I don't have overbearing pride. The Cowboys were arrogant and cocky, and what happened? I am confident that we will play our best and hopefully get a win. But I am never cocky. I've learned from my actual football teams. My overall record is 1-19. I love it when people say I suck at football because I have such a bad record. It shows how little they know about the game.

[Ronnie Brown # 23]

[quote name='bossman419' post='115750' date='Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM']Yes there is are argument here. The Ravens went to the wire with the Steelers and the Titans. Arguably two of the best teams in the playoffs. The Ravens are battle tested, and have played more quality teams. Would you rather go 11-5 playing cupcakes or playing good teams?[/quote]

Get it through your head you guys lost to every tough game that you played besides us which we're the best team you beat . The Ravens beat one 11-5 team and thats us, we beat one 11-5 team the Pats, every other team you've beat has been under 10 wins just like us. Look at the stats that are posted somewhere, the combined record between the teams you beat is 71-102-3, the combined record of teams we beat are 70-106. Ok the teams you beat have 1 more win, jeez big deal..... Yes you've lost to some better teams so yea you guys had a tougher schedule overall but the point is that you LOST! The teams you beat are in the same level as ours...

[smashmouth]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115849' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:18 PM']Get it through your head you guys lost to every tough game that you played besides us which we're the best team you beat . The Ravens beat one 11-5 team and thats us, we beat one 11-5 team the Pats, every other team you've beat has been under 10 wins just like us. Look at the stats that are posted somewhere, the combined record between the teams you beat is 71-102-3, the combined record of teams we beat are 70-106. Ok the teams you beat have 1 more win, jeez big deal..... Yes you've lost to some better teams so yea you guys had a tougher schedule overall but the point is that you LOST! The teams you beat are in the same level as ours...[/quote]
But the point is, your stats are compared to us because the tough teams we played. Would the Dolphins stats be THAT close had they played the top 5 teams in the NFL? I doubt it, stats is not going to win the game this sunday. The odds is against you guys and nothing you all can do to prove otherwise. I predict a good game, not a blowout, but not a very close game,
Ravins win 27-17

[neepo13]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115849' date='Jan 1 2009, 04:18 PM']Get it through your head you guys lost to every tough game that you played besides us which we're the best team you beat . The Ravens beat one 11-5 team and thats us, we beat one 11-5 team the Pats, every other team you've beat has been under 10 wins just like us. Look at the stats that are posted somewhere, the combined record between the teams you beat is 71-102-3, the combined record of teams we beat are 70-106. Ok the teams you beat have 1 more win, jeez big deal..... Yes you've lost to some better teams so yea you guys had a tougher schedule overall but the point is that you LOST! The teams you beat are in the same level as ours...[/quote]


The definition of being battle tested is that you have had to battle the BEST. The Ravens lost most of the games but they are a better team having had to play the best teams in the NFL, then having had to play an easy schedule. Why do you think they generally beat teams under .500 by 10 points or more? They battled with the best, so the worst are not a challenge for them. And they are able to take care of teams that they are "evenly" matched with ie D.C., Philly, Dallas, Miami. On the other hand, didnt the Chiefs damn near take Miami to overtime a few weeks ago? Didnt the Dolphins lose to a Texans team that Baltimore DESTROYED in their own house?

None of that is a slight against the Dolphins but the Dolphins defense and offense is not the toughest team we've faced all year, having had to play the best teams in the league. But Baltimore, at least defensively, might be the toughest team the Dolphins have had to face all year.

[RavensIQ]

[quote name='Ronnie Brown # 23' post='115849' date='Jan 1 2009, 03:18 PM']Get it through your head you guys lost to every tough game that you played besides us which we're the best team you beat . The Ravens beat one 11-5 team and thats us, we beat one 11-5 team the Pats, every other team you've beat has been under 10 wins just like us. Look at the stats that are posted somewhere, the combined record between the teams you beat is 71-102-3, the combined record of teams we beat are 70-106. Ok the teams you beat have 1 more win, jeez big deal..... Yes you've lost to some better teams so yea you guys had a tougher schedule overall but the point is that you LOST! The teams you beat are in the same level as ours...[/quote]


But we beat you...You're not on the same level as US! Get THAT through your head!

EDIT- Doesn't matter who we beat or who we faced...we WHOOPED the Dolphinslast time we played them. You have no argument. We already beat you, what's there to prove?