January Joe

[PurpleCity5]

Just for thought, Brady or Luck won't be playing in the Pro Bowl, good chance Manning doesn't either as well as Aaron Rodgers. What are the chances Joe finally get's in? 

[The Mom Gene]

We are a very well-balanced organization but we can't seem to draft any legit WR.  Hopefully, Kubiak will give some of his valuable inputs in drafting a legit WR and TEs...... We seem to miss some of those stars in previous draft....

There are 4 names....  Guys I love but just aren't there yet.....  Aiken... Brown... Campanaro and Gillmore.

  I think you see a lot more of Camp and Aiken next year.

I think we have some...  They're just not there yet.

[The Mom Gene]

Just for thought, Brady or Luck won't be playing in the Pro Bowl, good chance Manning doesn't either as well as Aaron Rodgers. What are the chances Joe finally get's in? 

Where did he come in on the list???

[GrimCoconut]

Just for thought, Brady or Luck won't be playing in the Pro Bowl, good chance Manning doesn't either as well as Aaron Rodgers. What are the chances Joe finally get's in?

None. Rivers, Stafford and Wilson are the three alternates.

[codizzle]

That's my QB

Needed a perfect game of him carrying the defense to win ... He fell a little short

Damn proud of the team though

Bright future with flacco/Kubiak together for another year

Now please go get a freaking legit weapon for the man

[H8R]

That's my QB

Needed a perfect game of him carrying the defense to win ... He fell a little short

Damn proud of the team though

Bright future with flacco/Kubiak together for another year

Now please go get a freaking legit weapon for the man

Imagine what could have been with Kubiak coming in sooner in Flaccos/Rices career... YIKES!

[codizzle]

Imagine what could have been with Kubiak coming in sooner in Flaccos/Rices career... YIKES!

Try not to think like that cause I just get upset lol

Flacco..mason..rice and a healthy pitta or even boldin

Man o man

[52N19]

i'm a Joe fan but to get to the SB the ravens are going to have to start playing some home playoff games. we need September, October and November Joe to play better. we know what he does when he gets to December, January and February.

[StingerNLG]

i'm a Joe fan but to get to the SB the ravens are going to have to start playing some home playoff games. we need September, October and November Joe to play better. we know what he does when he gets to December, January and February.

 

With his road playoff record?   I almost feel more comfortable on the road LOL.

 

The good thing is that Kubiak is coming back next year.   Flacco's numbers have already started to rise under Kubiak and it's going to be even better next year.    So he's on the way.

[PurpleCity5]

None. Rivers, Stafford and Wilson are the three alternates.

Stafford?! Wow! Are you kidding me?! Rivers, eh, maybe he will get in but it seems like his injury might prevent it. 

[AsianRice]

There are 4 names....  Guys I love but just aren't there yet.....  Aiken... Brown... Campanaro and Gillmore.

  I think you see a lot more of Camp and Aiken next year.

I think we have some...  They're just not there yet.

All of them are a legit possession WR  under Kubiak's offense.  We need a deep threat WR who is consistently running a finish deep route, fighting for contested catch, and physical ball catcher.

 

I think those 4 you mentioned like all of us expecting are the future of this offense but still lack of 1 piece.....

 

Not a lot of QB has huge arm like Joe; we need to take advantage of that....

 

PS: We'll see how we draft WR this year with Kubiak's essential inputs....

[gooftroop]

Indefensible huh?

 

Your #1 speed receiver on their BACKUP CB that just came in the game (remember, that wasn't Browner) with a single high safety, and you're not taking that shot?

 

Come on.  Want to debate the throw itself and where it headed, fine.  But indefensible bad decision?   No way.  

 

I'd bet you a ticket to a Ravens game that Aaron Rodgers, Andrew Luck, and a bunch of other QB's worth their salt take that shot if they have it.

Nah, I'd rather debate the wisdom of throwing what amounted to a jump ball when it's second and five on the opponents 40-yard-line, and you have 1:55 and one timeout remaining. You've been moving the ball well all day, the clock's not a factor, and you'd love to give Brady as little time as possible if you do score. The one thing you have to do there is take care of the ball. Way too early to gamble...

[StingerNLG]

Nah, I'd rather debate the wisdom of throwing what amounted to a jump ball when it's second and five on the opponents 40-yard-line, and you have 1:55 and one timeout remaining. You've been moving the ball well all day, the clock's not a factor, and you'd love to give Brady as little time as possible if you do score. The one thing you have to do there is take care of the ball. Way too early to gamble...

The fact you think it was a "jump ball" is the first mistake. No rational person saw that as a jump ball, even Jamison Hensley wrote it.

Second, you see a shot and you take the shot. As the QB you don't care about whether you leave time for Brady. That isn't your concern. Your concern is winning the game.

Bottom line is he made a decision I'd except any if those QB'S in the playoffs to make, and Tony Romo made a similar choice in his game and almost won. It was a matchup that favors you and the fact Flacco saw that to begin with was good.

[gooftroop]

The fact you think it was a "jump ball" is the first mistake. No rational person saw that as a jump ball, even Jamison Hensley wrote it.

Second, you see a shot and you take the shot. As the QB you don't care about whether you leave time for Brady. That isn't your concern. Your concern is winning the game.

Bottom line is he made a decision I'd except any if those QB'S in the playoffs to make, and Tony Romo made a similar choice in his game and almost won. It was a matchup that favors you and the fact Flacco saw that to begin with was good.

Well, I'll just disagree and leave the results to speak for themselves. No need for another empty lecture.

[darklight1216]

Peyton sounds non-committal. Maybe he should mutually part with Denver and then sign with Baltimore. He could play from September through November and Joe could finish out the season from December through February.

Manning would avoid cold weather and the Ravens would secure home advantage in the PO. Naturally, this combo would win the Sb so everybody comes out on top.

[ratedr]

None. Rivers, Stafford and Wilson are the three alternates.

lol how the heck did Stafford get in there? Tells you that it's all about name recognition.

 

Flacco has a good chance next year though, he gained a lot of respect from people this weekend, even in defeat.

[izvoodoo]

The fact you think it was a "jump ball" is the first mistake. No rational person saw that as a jump ball, even Jamison Hensley wrote it.

Second, you see a shot and you take the shot. As the QB you don't care about whether you leave time for Brady. That isn't your concern. Your concern is winning the game.

Bottom line is he made a decision I'd except any if those QB'S in the playoffs to make, and Tony Romo made a similar choice in his game and almost won. It was a matchup that favors you and the fact Flacco saw that to begin with was good.

The process of not looking off the safety was the big problem.  But that balls gotta be towards the sideline, so Torrey has a better shot at it.  Probably his worst play of the game, but the only reason we were in that game was 1) Flacco and 2) Oline

[codizzle]

The process of not looking off the safety was the big problem. But that balls gotta be towards the sideline, so Torrey has a better shot at it. Probably his worst play of the game, but the only reason we were in that game was 1) Flacco and 2) Oline

Agreed completely

[StingerNLG]

The process of not looking off the safety was the big problem.  But that balls gotta be towards the sideline, so Torrey has a better shot at it.  Probably his worst play of the game, but the only reason we were in that game was 1) Flacco and 2) Oline

 

Now that's a reasonable point.   Someone simply saying it was a "jump ball" is ridiculous.  This I can understand.   But I also don't think you can look off the safety if you are going to throw the ball downfield like that.   And I'm sure the safety was probably headed that way regardless because he's going to help out his backup CB.  

 

Could the throw have gone more to the sideline?  Probably so.   Still doesn't absolve Torrey from making a play on the ball which every screenshot you see of the ball in relation to both of them shows could have been made.

[StingerNLG]

Well, I'll just disagree and leave the results to speak for themselves. No need for another empty lecture.

 

Yeah ok.

[izvoodoo]

Now that's a reasonable point.   Someone simply saying it was a "jump ball" is ridiculous.  This I can understand.   But I also don't think you can look off the safety if you are going to throw the ball downfield like that.   And I'm sure the safety was probably headed that way regardless because he's going to help out his backup CB.  

 

Could the throw have gone more to the sideline?  Probably so.   Still doesn't absolve Torrey from making a play on the ball which every screenshot you see of the ball in relation to both of them shows could have been made.

You can.  Marlon was coming on the crosser, and that was still in the safeties "zone."  Torrey played it poorly too.  Steve Smith does it all the time and on throws with air under it.  He walls off the defender and dives for the catch, as opposed to running and jumping like say Anquin.  It's not a bad tactic. In fact Torrey's catch on the other side of the field was done that exact way. The thing is they were both judging the ball like it was Iso coverage, when really the safety was sliding Torreys way.  Poor play all around.

[ravensdfan]

Well, I'll just disagree and leave the results to speak for themselves. No need for another empty lecture.

We needed a TD not a FG. You can't play run the clock out when you need to get into the end zone. If we had run the ball three straight times and failed to get into the end zone, people like you would be here saying how we should have passed the ball.

You have to take your shot when it presents itself in that situation.

It wasn't Flacco's best pass but Torrey had the opportunity and time to break it up at the very least. If he's in position, he had a chance at making that catch.

We only had a chance at winning that game because Flacco had been aggressive all game. To then try to blame him for being aggressive in that situation is absurd.

[StingerNLG]

We needed a TD not a FG. You can't play run the clock out when you need to get into the end zone. If we had run the ball three straight times and failed to get into the end zone, people like you would be here saying how we should have passed the ball.

You have to take your shot when it presents itself in that situation.

 

BINGO.   The favorable matchup was there.   You need to score.   You can't guarantee you can continue to dink and dunk the ball either.   And you can't on offense think on the field about your defense.   The offense's job is to score points.   They saw something they thought would work.

 

We only had a chance at winning that game because Flacco had been aggressive all game. To then try to blame him for being aggressive in that situation is absurd.

 

Which is exactly what Jamison Hensley said.

[gooftroop]

We needed a TD not a FG. You can't play run the clock out when you need to get into the end zone. If we had run the ball three straight times and failed to get into the end zone, people like you would be here saying how we should have passed the ball.

You have to take your shot when it presents itself in that situation.

It wasn't Flacco's best pass but Torrey had the opportunity and time to break it up at the very least. If he's in position, he had a chance at making that catch.

We only had a chance at winning that game because Flacco had been aggressive all game. To then try to blame him for being aggressive in that situation is absurd.

"People like you" read without comprehending. Who said anything only needing a FG, or running out the clock? Who's blaming Joe for "being aggressive"? Not me. If you want to refute my argument, quote what I said instead of making stuff up. And what I said is that it was the wrong time for that kind of gamble- and that's all I said.

[gooftroop]

The process of not looking off the safety was the big problem.  But that balls gotta be towards the sideline, so Torrey has a better shot at it.  Probably his worst play of the game, but the only reason we were in that game was 1) Flacco and 2) Oline

Sure. Joe played great on Saturday, no question about it. Makes the way it ended harder to take, not easier...

[Tiz]

Simply stated, Flacco was the best QB not just in that game, but the entire playoffs till that point! Nobody is going to easily wrest away the mantle of January Joe from Flacco any more! He is quite simply the best clutch and post season QB in the league!

I think it's obvious he was but won't get a chance this year to make believers out of more people

[ravensdfan]

A really bad decision by Joe, given the situation. 30 seconds and no timeouts left? Sure. Middle of the second quarter? Okay. But not when you have to score on that possession, it's 2nd and five, and you have a timeout and almost two minutes remaining. Would've been a bad decision even if it was only one-on-one, instead of one-on-two. Indefensible, any way you look at it, IMO.

 

 

Nah, I'd rather debate the wisdom of throwing what amounted to a jump ball when it's second and five on the opponents 40-yard-line, and you have 1:55 and one timeout remaining. You've been moving the ball well all day, the clock's not a factor, and you'd love to give Brady as little time as possible if you do score. The one thing you have to do there is take care of the ball. Way too early to gamble...

 

 

"People like you" read without comprehending. Who said anything only needing a FG, or running out the clock? Who's blaming Joe for "being aggressive"? Not me. If you want to refute my argument, quote what I said instead of making stuff up. And what I said is that it was the wrong time for that kind of gamble- and that's all I said.

 

Well be careful what you wish for because there is exactly what you said. Indefensible you said. That's blaming him for taking that shot. My response is repeated for you below - and still stands.

We needed a TD not a FG. You can't play run the clock out when you need to get into the end zone. If we had run the ball three straight times and failed to get into the end zone, people like you would be here saying how we should have passed the ball.

You have to take your shot when it presents itself in that situation.

It wasn't Flacco's best pass but Torrey had the opportunity and time to break it up at the very least. If he's in position, he had a chance at making that catch.

We only had a chance at winning that game because Flacco had been aggressive all game. To then try to blame him for being aggressive in that situation is absurd.

[gooftroop]

Well be careful what you wish for because there is exactly what you said. Indefensible you said. That's blaming him for taking that shot. My response is repeated for you below - and still stands.

Man, you don't learn easily. You see, I am blaming Joe for taking that shot. That's the point. But thanks for the warning about being careful- you never know when you'll run into somebody with steel-trap mind. Laughable.

[ravensdfan]

"People like you" read without comprehending. Who said anything only needing a FG, or running out the clock? Who's blaming Joe for "being aggressive"? Not me. If you want to refute my argument, quote what I said instead of making stuff up. And what I said is that it was the wrong time for that kind of gamble- and that's all I said.

 

 

Man, you don't learn easily. You see, I am blaming Joe for taking that shot. That's the point. But thanks for the warning about being careful- you never know when you'll run into somebody with steel-trap mind. Laughable.

Dude are you sharing an account with your brother or something?

My response still stands. Absurd to blame him for being aggressive in that situation, i.e. for taking a shot any QB worth their salt takes because we see it all the time, every Sunday. It is a play that won us a SB.

 

I mean what part of "Joe's aggressive play is the only reason we even had a chance to win that game so to then blame him for being aggressive in that situation is absurd." is not registering? Which is exactly what you're doing by blaming him for taking that shot. It is exactly what I said. smh

[K-Dog]

If Joe never threw into coverage he would never throw.