MVP

[Torreysmithforthewin]

So... Who do you guys think should get MVP?

Romo should get it. But he won't.

In Completion Percentage, Touchdowns, Interceptions Yards/Attempts, Passer Rating, QBR, Deep accuracy percentage, Pressured Accuracy Percentage, 4th Q comebacks and Game winning drives, Romo ranks 1st in 6 of them.

Rodgers ranks 1st in only 2.

And Romo has done all this with a surgically repaired back, fractured transverse processes, and damaged ribs.

Undefeated on the road and in December. I totally understand that Rodgers is undefeated at home... However he's playing in Green Bay.

Yeah... Romo has a few losses at home.

Vs the 49ers : he hadn't played in the preseason and movement was very limited.

Vs Redskins : Romo went out with a back injury

Vs Cardinals : He didn't play, Murray held under 100 yards.

Vs Eagles : extremely short turnaround

So... Who do you guys think should win the MVP?

[GrimCoconut]

Watt

[BALTIMOREFLACCO]

Interesting take, I'm very pro-Romo as he helped me through to two fantasy titles this year.....I think Watt should win it, but won't. Probably going to Rodgers.

[ratedr]

I've always been a Romo fan but you can argue he's not even the MVP on his own team. If it goes to a QB I don't see how you don't pick Rodgers.

 

Personally I'd like to see Watt get it.

[Ravenatic20]

I'm split between Watt and Romo.  Romo missed a little bit of time this year so that could set him back.

[Inqui]

Yeah, I'm rooting for Watt but my money's on Rodgers.

[hawkprey]

Romo's stats are pretty much attributable to the O-line and Dez Bryant. I mean it's pretty ridiculous to think that having the #1 WR and O-line in the game doesn't make it that much easier. His most difficult tests were against the Rams and Seahawks' defenses, before they got healthy/on a roll, and he got to sit out for the next toughest test (Cardinals). So no, I would not put Romo in the conversation.

 

It's either Watt or BS.

[K-Dog]

Here is my problem with Watt getting MVP.

The award is most VALUABLE player.

With Watt the Texans are middle of the pack.

With out Watt the Texans likely remain middle of the pack.

[Inqui]

Romo's stats are pretty much attributable to the O-line and Dez Bryant. I mean it's pretty ridiculous to think that having the #1 WR and O-line in the game doesn't make it that much easier. His most difficult tests were against the Rams and Seahawks' defenses, before they got healthy/on a roll, and he got to sit out for the next toughest test (Cardinals). So no, I would not put Romo in the conversation.

 

It's either Watt or BS.

What did Bill Simmons do to earn MVP?

[ratedr]

Here is my problem with Watt getting MVP.

The award is most VALUABLE player.

With Watt the Texans are middle of the pack.

With out Watt the Texans likely remain middle of the pack.

This is why he won't win.

 

In the end even the 20th best QB is more valuable in terms of W/L than Watt. Ask Arizona.

[Gordo52]

Rodgers

Watt

Romo

Brady

Brown

It's so hard to put them in order after Rodgers.

[gabefergy]

To me it's Rodgers and it's not that close. Watt is great, but he isn't as valuable simply because of the position he plays.

 

Rodgers was phenomenal this season. 38 TDs to only 5 Ints. 8.4 YPA. The way he navigates the pocket and makes plays on the move is unparralleled.

[52520Andrew]

Watt simply because you don't get defensive players who make that much of an impact for a team. Rodgers second. Romo is good but how much of his success this year is because that godly O-line and running game?

[redrum52]

Watt

[Torreysmithforthewin]

Romos Oline Pass Block Rating - 83.5

Rodgers - 85.5

Cowboys yards/rush - 4.5

Packers - 4.4

Interesting...

[arnie_uk]

Watt. Hes the best player in the league with Rodgers a close second

[beanfigger]

Had we lost and Houston made the playoffs, I think Watt would've had a major edge. Since they are sitting at home in January, I think Rodgers made a great last week case with that return to the field while injured to lead his team to a division crown.

[Mt. Crushmore]

Watt

[Gordo52]

Fair or not, 4 of Rodgers 5 INT's were off the hands of a receiver. His numbers would look even better if he didn't have to sit for about 5 quarters due to blowouts...

He's the most valuable player in the league. You could make a case for JJ but unfortunately for him he doesn't play QB and his team isn't in the playoffs.

[cobrajet]

Aaron Rodgers

[Footman DCXLV]

I don't get all these people saying Romo or Rodgers. And, Watt getting it would be ridiculous. He's clearly the best defensive player in the league, so Defensive Player of the Year makes sense. But, being the Defensive Player of the Year, and also catching all of THREE balls in a single season, regardless of whether or not they were touchdowns, does not make you the league MVP. If he's that valuable, and he's one of the only players in the league who's playing offense AND defense, how did his team still not make the playoffs? Watt is Defensive Player of the Year, but not MVP.

 

Meanwhile, Rodgers didn't do anything he hasn't done before and still laied the occasional egg (see Detroit and Buffalo), and Romo threw a lot of touchdowns, but had was 14th in the league in yards. He did play his best season of football to date, but that's because he's on the best team he's been on. And, there's one reason for that, and he's this year's MVP: DeMarco Murray.

 

It shouldn't even be a discussion. I'm tired of people confusing "best player in the league" with "League MVP." MVP also doesn't translate to "quarterback with the best stats." The MVP is the Most Valuable Player. In other words, the single player in the entire league who had the biggest impact on his team. Romo put up big touchdown numbers like he's done before, and Bryant put up big numbers like he always does. Neither of those changed Dallas from the mediocre under-performers they've been for years into the elite, balanced team they were this year. The running game did. DeMarco Murray did. He led the league in rushing for nearly the entire season, and had more than 500 more yards than anybody else in the league. That's insane. And, unlike when Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson had great rushing seasons, it actually translated directly into wins. This wasn't a team padding their superstar's stats because that's all they had to play for. This was a team that needed their guy to continue to be a stud in order for them to finally compete with the best teams in this league.

 

DeMarco Murray had the biggest impact on his team of any player in this league. He was, simply, the most valuable NFL player this season. He played all 16 games this year, and with at least 19 carries in every single game and only four games with fewer than 100 rushing yards, he was also the most consistent player all year long. This is a no-brainer. Peterson winning the award a couple years ago gives me hope, but I won't be shocked if the continued QB-bias results in the Rodgers winning the award again. 

[darklight1216]

You make a very compelling argument, Footman.

[arnie_uk]

I don't get all these people saying Romo or Rodgers. And, Watt getting it would be ridiculous. He's clearly the best defensive player in the league, so Defensive Player of the Year makes sense. But, being the Defensive Player of the Year, and also catching all of THREE balls in a single season, regardless of whether or not they were touchdowns, does not make you the league MVP. If he's that valuable, and he's one of the only players in the league who's playing offense AND defense, how did his team still not make the playoffs? Watt is Defensive Player of the Year, but not MVP.

Meanwhile, Rodgers didn't do anything he hasn't done before and still laied the occasional egg (see Detroit and Buffalo), and Romo threw a lot of touchdowns, but had was 14th in the league in yards. He did play his best season of football to date, but that's because he's on the best team he's been on. And, there's one reason for that, and he's this year's MVP: DeMarco Murray.

It shouldn't even be a discussion. I'm tired of people confusing "best player in the league" with "League MVP." MVP also doesn't translate to "quarterback with the best stats." The MVP is the Most Valuable Player. In other words, the single player in the entire league who had the biggest impact on his team. Romo put up big touchdown numbers like he's done before, and Bryant put up big numbers like he always does. Neither of those changed Dallas from the mediocre under-performers they've been for years into the elite, balanced team they were this year. The running game did. DeMarco Murray did. He led the league in rushing for nearly the entire season, and had more than 500 more yards than anybody else in the league. That's insane. And, unlike when Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson had great rushing seasons, it actually translated directly into wins. This wasn't a team padding their superstar's stats because that's all they had to play for. This was a team that needed their guy to continue to be a stud in order for them to finally compete with the best teams in this league.

DeMarco Murray had the biggest impact on his team of any player in this league. He was, simply, the most valuable NFL player this season. He played all 16 games this year, and with at least 19 carries in every single game and only four games with fewer than 100 rushing yards, he was also the most consistent player all year long. This is a no-brainer. Peterson winning the award a couple years ago gives me hope, but I won't be shocked if the continued QB-bias results in the Rodgers winning the award again.

I raise you the dallas oline. They were responsible for his success. Best line in the league this past year.

[Footman DCXLV]

I raise you the dallas oline. They were responsible for his success. Best line in the league this past year.

 

Can't argue with that. Unfortunately, you can't split MVP between five players, so you have to give it to the guy actually running the ball.

[arnie_uk]

Can't argue with that. Unfortunately, you can't split MVP between five players, so you have to give it to the guy actually running the ball.

but that's why a running back rarely gets it.

[Footman DCXLV]

but that's why a running back rarely gets it.

 

I don't think that's the case, because you can make the same argument for a QB. The guys putting up the biggest numbers are usually sacked the least and/or given the most time to find open receivers. Everything comes down to the offensive and defensive lines, in the end. I think it's just the modern era where everybody loves quarterbacks and it's all about throwing the ball. Ladainian Tomlinson's MVP year was really the end of an era and the beginning of "this is a passing league."

[Torreysmithforthewin]

I don't get all these people saying Romo or Rodgers. And, Watt getting it would be ridiculous. He's clearly the best defensive player in the league, so Defensive Player of the Year makes sense. But, being the Defensive Player of the Year, and also catching all of THREE balls in a single season, regardless of whether or not they were touchdowns, does not make you the league MVP. If he's that valuable, and he's one of the only players in the league who's playing offense AND defense, how did his team still not make the playoffs? Watt is Defensive Player of the Year, but not MVP.

Meanwhile, Rodgers didn't do anything he hasn't done before and still laied the occasional egg (see Detroit and Buffalo), and Romo threw a lot of touchdowns, but had was 14th in the league in yards. He did play his best season of football to date, but that's because he's on the best team he's been on. And, there's one reason for that, and he's this year's MVP: DeMarco Murray.

It shouldn't even be a discussion. I'm tired of people confusing "best player in the league" with "League MVP." MVP also doesn't translate to "quarterback with the best stats." The MVP is the Most Valuable Player. In other words, the single player in the entire league who had the biggest impact on his team. Romo put up big touchdown numbers like he's done before, and Bryant put up big numbers like he always does. Neither of those changed Dallas from the mediocre under-performers they've been for years into the elite, balanced team they were this year. The running game did. DeMarco Murray did. He led the league in rushing for nearly the entire season, and had more than 500 more yards than anybody else in the league. That's insane. And, unlike when Adrian Peterson or Chris Johnson had great rushing seasons, it actually translated directly into wins. This wasn't a team padding their superstar's stats because that's all they had to play for. This was a team that needed their guy to continue to be a stud in order for them to finally compete with the best teams in this league.

DeMarco Murray had the biggest impact on his team of any player in this league. He was, simply, the most valuable NFL player this season. He played all 16 games this year, and with at least 19 carries in every single game and only four games with fewer than 100 rushing yards, he was also the most consistent player all year long. This is a no-brainer. Peterson winning the award a couple years ago gives me hope, but I won't be shocked if the continued QB-bias results in the Rodgers winning the award again.

Romo didn't play vs Arizona and Murray only got around 70 yards... That game resulted in a loss.

[Kaiowas]

Watt

[Footman DCXLV]

Romo didn't play vs Arizona and Murray only got around 70 yards... That game resulted in a loss.

 

Arizona had a really good defense and could focus even more on Murray with the starting quarterback out. There's no denying Dallas is better with Romo under center than their backup. That doesn't make him MVP. Murray without Romo resulted in a loss against a very good team. I think Romo without Murray this year would have resulted quite a few losses.

[Gordo52]

Packers would probably be winless if they were forced to start Flynn all year.... Ok maybe 2-14 and at best 4-12......

DeMarco's a beast but cmon man. Not even sure I'd put him ahead of Brown or Gronk in terms to meaning more for their teams.