The Return of the Amazing Webb?

[1/28/01]

im pretty sure 5`10 and 6`4 players have different ideas about what they would label super high.....

nice try trollin though.

Trolling? Ha, nope.

[Tru11]

H8R, on 04 Jan 2015 - 5:06 PM, said:

It's not trollin'... It's fact.. He wasn't catching sky balls that were higher than physically capable of webb to deflect. You're reaching, and just spewing crap again... Name a ball that he caught that was some special catch where he had to sky over Webb to bring down. NONE

 

its a fact bigger players don't have an advantage over smaller players when it comes to jump balls?

 

alright then

[Tru11]

1/28/01, on 04 Jan 2015 - 5:48 PM, said:

Trolling? Ha, nope.

 

so you agree height doesent matter when players have to jump?

[H8R]

its a fact bigger players don't have an advantage over smaller players when it comes to jump balls?

alright then

It's a fact that day in/ day out, SMALLER db's man up on taller WR's... I didn't see any jump balls, that's the point...

[Tru11]

H8R, on 04 Jan 2015 - 6:26 PM, said:H8R, on 04 Jan 2015 - 6:26 PM, said:

It's a fact that day in/ day out, SMALLER db's man up on taller WR's... I didn't see any jump balls, that's the point...

 

so on that TD pass both players never left the ground?.

 

also isent it a fact that taller WRs have an advantage over smaller DBs on passes where they have to jump?

[arnie_uk]

Webby had a tough game but at least he was making the tackles when needed.

he missed numerous tackles, especially early

[Radinho84]

so on that TD pass both players never left the ground?.

 

also isent it a fact that taller WRs have an advantage over smaller DBs on passes where they have to jump?

The point is that Webb wash´t able to create enough pressure to force Ben to throw jump balls to his receivers. Webb is not the same he used to be and I don´t think he ever will be again due to his messed up knees. Hopefully he down´s become a liability 

[757RavensFan]

On the TD pass that Webb was defending, there really wasn't much that he could do. He was in perfect position and he almost knocked the ball out of the receiver's hands while they both were going to the ground.  Sometimes you have to accept that the WR's best effort was greater than the DB's best effort.

[Tank 92]

On the TD pass that Webb was defending, there really wasn't much that he could do. He was in perfect position and he almost knocked the ball out of the receiver's hands while they both were going to the ground.  Sometimes you have to admit that the WR's best effort was greater than the DB's best effort.

 

To be frank, I wasn't as upset at him getting beat as I was him jumping up and getting in the back judge's face, especially since there wasn't a hint of OPI. You got beat, get off the field and prep better for the next chance.

 

So yeah.......when is it that the "Amazing Webb" is going to return?  This week I hope!

[PurpleCity5]

Webb didn't have a bad game. Antonio Brown had a 44 YRD gain from the Forsett fumble, take that away and you practically leave him with 73 for the game. The Ravens defended him well, it could have been much worse. I feel like the secondary isn't getting enough credit. 

[1/28/01]

Webb didn't have a bad game. Antonio Brown had a 44 YRD gain from the Forsett fumble, take that away and you practically leave him with 73 for the game. The Ravens defended him well, it could have been much worse. I feel like the secondary isn't getting enough credit.

Webb wasnt on Brown all that often. Webb was the black mark for the secondary. Melvin, Hill, Stewart and even Elam played pretty well.

[757RavensFan]

Webb didn't have a bad game. Antonio Brown had a 44 YRD gain from the Forsett fumble, take that away and you practically leave him with 73 for the game. The Ravens defended him well, it could have been much worse. I feel like the secondary isn't getting enough credit. 

 

 

Except on that 44 yard reception.  3 guys around him and NO one even close to knocking the ball away.   

[PurpleCity5]

Except on that 44 yard reception.  3 guys around him and NO one even close to knocking the ball away.   

Putting Daryl Smith on Webb wasn't a good idea. That was a terrible match up. Smith is a good coverage linebacker, but a Linebackers against a WR like Brown simply won't work, either that or blown coverage. 

[757RavensFan]

Putting Daryl Smith on Webb Brown wasn't a good idea. That was a terrible match up. Smith is a good coverage linebacker, but a Linebackers against a WR like Brown simply won't work, either that or blown coverage. 

 

Fixed it for you.

 

That's his responsibility in a Tampa Cover 2.  ILB covers receiver going up the middle anticipating over the top help.  That was on Hill and Stewart to help.   

[PurpleCity5]

Fixed it for you.

 

That's his responsibility in a Tampa Cover 2.  ILB covers receiver going up the middle anticipating over the top help.  That was on Hill and Stewart to help.   

Well, it didn't sound right, someone was supposed to help Daryl, no way you do something like that. Def. the safeties didn't do a good job and yes you're right. Thanks for the correction btw.

[Ozzsome]

I just re-watched the game and still don't see how Webb had a horrible game

 

He missed 3 tackles, 2 of them coming in the first series.

He was beat twice in coverage, one of which was a back shoulder fade to Bryant, which is almost impossible to cover in a single man and the other being the TD. I don't consider the Deep Post where there was incidental contact with the WR as beat, because he was stride for stride with him and was in really good position to knock the ball away. On another note I also do not consider the almost TD throw from Gradkowski to Bryant as beat. There is only so much you can do as a DB when the WR has 6 inches on you in a jump ball situation, and he only missed the ball by a hair, also it was a Cover 2 Man so he knew he had Hill over the top

 

Other than that, Roethlisberger looked his way early and often but could not throw it his direction because of some very good coverage by Webb and had to take his second read, sometimes even his 3rd. On Stewarts interception in the endzone, guess who Roethlisbergers first read was?

[cobrajet]

The only thing I can say about Webb is that he was balling when we paid him. He was shut down then he got injured and does not seem to be the same guy. I am not going to hate on him for that. It is not like he did something stupid to hurt the team and now costing us cap space. The guy won the Ed Block award, he is a decent man. Injuries happen.

[The Raven]

I just re-watched the game and still don't see how Webb had a horrible game

 

He missed 3 tackles, 2 of them coming in the first series.

He was beat twice in coverage, one of which was a back shoulder fade to Bryant, which is almost impossible to cover in a single man and the other being the TD. I don't consider the Deep Post where there was incidental contact with the WR as beat, because he was stride for stride with him and was in really good position to knock the ball away. On another note I also do not consider the almost TD throw from Gradkowski to Bryant as beat. There is only so much you can do as a DB when the WR has 6 inches on you in a jump ball situation, and he only missed the ball by a hair, also it was a Cover 2 Man so he knew he had Hill over the top

 

Other than that, Roethlisberger looked his way early and often but could not throw it his direction because of some very good coverage by Webb and had to take his second read, sometimes even his 3rd. On Stewarts interception in the endzone, guess who Roethlisbergers first read was?

 

He missed three tackles? Sorry, that's horrible. No question.

[The Raven]

Fixed it for you.

 

That's his responsibility in a Tampa Cover 2.  ILB covers receiver going up the middle anticipating over the top help.  That was on Hill and Stewart to help.   

Well, it didn't sound right, someone was supposed to help Daryl, no way you do something like that. Def. the safeties didn't do a good job and yes you're right. Thanks for the correction btw.

 

Technically speaking, it's not even on them to help. They have their own zones to worry about.They're responsible for the deep halves.

 

I will say that cover two wasn't the wrong call there. I don't think cover two works effectively against three wide sets unless you really think they're going short. If you call cover two against a three wide set, you really need that pass rush to get home. I would've went cover three or cover 1 but hindsight is 20/20.

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

Webb looks to be getting back to his best, and it could not have come at a better time.

 

I'm still depressed Jimmy is out for the season. Those two healthy is an elite corner combination! 

[Dfence4champs2052]

He's made a couple of plays but he's nothing close to what he was before the knee injuries. He was a shutdown corner. He's starting to look better, but I'd be reluctant to call him back or amazing.

[Kinda_Dante]

He's made a couple of plays but he's nothing close to what he was before the knee injuries. He was a shutdown corner. He's starting to look better, but I'd be reluctant to call him back or amazing.

Yea i agree when I see him make a couple of the ridiculous picks he was making before i.e. diving backwards against brady in the playoffs then I'll say he's back. he seems to always be in the right place but isn't making plays on the ball like he used to.

[ravensfan160]

I thought he's played better of late but at the same time it seemed like Big Ben was going after him last week instead of Melvin. It might just be that we were giving Melvin safety help so Ben went after single coverage. It would be nice to know which.

[ellicottraven]

I thought he's played better of late but at the same time it seemed like Big Ben was going after him last week instead of Melvin. It might just be that we were giving Melvin safety help so Ben went after single coverage. It would be nice to know which.

The latter and probably because Webb covered Brown most of the night if I remember, but don't quote me on that....

[aquelenelson]

Webb isn't playing even near the value of his contract. He need to improve a lot, and not get injured - again.