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Michael Crabtree?

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Crabtree is a top receiver being held back by an inaccurate QB who's afraid to throw the ball. He won't get as much money as he deserves because of this, and would come with good value for a top-level WR. He's much better than any WR on our roster currently.

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I thought about us signing Crabtree too but because of how difficult it would be to keep Torrey and sign him I'm advocating for us to trade for Vernon Davis now.Adding the most explosive TE in the league and getting Pitta back should up the ante with our passing game.If Pitta has a full recovery and stays healthy we'll have the best TE duo by far.If he doesn't the we'll still have an upper echelon TE on our team.

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Crabtree is a top receiver being held back by an inaccurate QB who's afraid to throw the ball. He won't get as much money as he deserves because of this, and would come with good value for a top-level WR. He's much better than any WR on our roster currently.

 

Maybe a different skill set than the current corp. he isnt in the same league as AJ, Gordon and Brown and the team could sure as hell use that piece and thats what the fan base has been hoping for

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hawkprey, on 26 Dec 2014 - 6:11 PM, said:hawkprey, on 26 Dec 2014 - 6:11 PM, said:

Crabtree is a top receiver being held back by an inaccurate QB who's afraid to throw the ball. He won't get as much money as he deserves because of this, and would come with good value for a top-level WR. He's much better than any WR on our roster currently.

 

top receivers dont have 1 1000yard season in 6 years lol

 

heck that inaccurate QB appears to have managed to get back to back 1000 yards seasons with boldin.

a feat boldin never got done here.

 

at this point torrey has more TDs in less games then crabtree and they avg about the same first downs per game.

if torrey keeps up this pace he would have much better numbers when he reaches the point where crabtree is now.

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top receivers dont have 1 1000yard season in 6 years lol

 

heck that inaccurate QB appears to have managed to get back to back 1000 yards seasons with boldin.

a feat boldin never got done here.

 

at this point torrey has more TDs in less games then crabtree and they avg about the same first downs per game.

if torrey keeps up this pace he would have much better numbers when he reaches the point where crabtree is now.

I think because they "rely" solely on Boldin out there.....  that's why.  You don't see them passing the ball around at all.

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The ravens have over a 137 million tied up in 41 players next year so unless there are some cuts i don't see signing any high priced free agents. Maybe one of these years the ravens will have more then 5 million in cap space after a season.

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The ravens have over a 137 million tied up in 41 players next year so unless there are some cuts i don't see signing any high priced free agents. Maybe one of these years the ravens will have more then 5 million in cap space after a season.

 

An off-season purge is nigh

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The ravens have over a 137 million tied up in 41 players next year so unless there are some cuts i don't see signing any high priced free agents. Maybe one of these years the ravens will have more then 5 million in cap space after a season.

 

 

Getting Ngata and Yanda extended,getting the $5 million in carry over cap space and possibly cutting Canty and Koch will free up about $20 million in cap space.

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There is an article on ProfootballTalk...  Regarding Torrey and the possibility or thought of not playing another game in Baltimore after Sunday.... I hate that news outlet, but it pops up on my FB ....  Reading some of the comments to that article???  WOW...  makes you kind of appreciate what we have..... 

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/26/torrey-smith-horrible-feeling-that-this-could-be-last-game-with-ravens/?utm_network=facebook&utm_post=3291263&utm_source=FB%20-%20SNF%20on%20NBC&utm_tags=

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Here is a thought:
 
Ravens have been missing that true #1 receiver, right?  Ozzie prefers to bring in "seasoned" receivers more than draft them.  Only problem is that they're usually on the wrong side of 30 by the time they get here.  Crabtree could check all those boxes.  So what if he was available as a 2015 UFA?
 
Michael Crabtree is apparently unsure of his future status with the 49ers.  He's over a season removed from his Achillies injury and may not last with his coach's future also up in the air.  Best part is that he'll be 28y/o week 2 of the 32015 season.
 
He hasn't lived up to expectation this year, but how much of that is due to the circus of the 49ers/Harbaugh "dance" this season?  Is he still capable of being a top receiver and should the Ravens actively pursue him this off season?

 

He is a definite upgrade over jones, and smith sr at this point. 

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I would not mind Crabtree--I think he is a better fit in our offense than Torrey. If Torrey gets his contract somewhere else he would be a solid consolation prize for our no.2 spot...I would add Cecil Shorts to the conversation too. While not the same size as Torrey or Crab I like him as someone to look at

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If the Ravens miss the playoffs for 2 consecutive seasons, Ozzie and Co. are gonna do everything possible to right the ship. They're going to try to improve immediately at WR and that would probably mean bringing in a proven vet, no time to "try" and develop a rookie at WR. I'm interested to see the fallout with the Bears. Wondering if Brandon Marshall or Alshon Jeffery decide to leave.

Look at the market of FA WR's, there's not many guys there, sure there are some big names, but I highly doubt they'll be let go by their respective teams, Alson isn't an FA and Brandon Marshall is under contract. A rookie like DeVante Parker wouldn't be bad. This team had Torrey in his rookie year when they went 12-4 with a first round bye. 

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Maryland loves Crabs, but Im not sure about Crabtrees. If he was released, I think he is more talented (or younger) than some on our team, but he's still not a guy I would want us to over pay.

As for drafting a WR, given a history with that, If it's not in the first 2 rounds, not worth our time. Free agency is the way to go.[/quote

Mmm can we hire G&M to be wr.

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I think because they "rely" solely on Boldin out there.....  that's why.  You don't see them passing the ball around at all.

. Maybe it's because Kaepernick trusts Boldin and not Crabtree I always thought Crabtree was overrated
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The ravens have over a 137 million tied up in 41 players next year so unless there are some cuts i don't see signing any high priced free agents. Maybe one of these years the ravens will have more then 5 million in cap space after a season.

From over the cap the Ravens should carry over 5.997 million over also Ngata should get restructured or cut. Cutting him saves 8.5mil I also think Canty and Koch are candidates Koch is due 3.1 mil ext year no way a punter gets that not to mention Webb will get restructured too, but the extra 6 will help but again no high priced FA
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An off-season purge is nigh

You're going to be disappointed... not only is it not happening, it pretty much can't happen and shouldn't happen.

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I'd be interested at the right price, but of course, that's not likely to happen.  Crabtree certainly hasn't lived up to his draft status or diva attitude early in his career, but he's still a pretty good WR.  I think this is another case where the stats don't tell the whole story.  He's in an odd situation there in SF.  That passing game is so hot and cold.

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Here is a thought:
 
Ravens have been missing that true #1 receiver, right?  Ozzie prefers to bring in "seasoned" receivers more than draft them.  Only problem is that they're usually on the wrong side of 30 by the time they get here.  Crabtree could check all those boxes.  So what if he was available as a 2015 UFA?
 
Michael Crabtree is apparently unsure of his future status with the 49ers.  He's over a season removed from his Achillies injury and may not last with his coach's future also up in the air.  Best part is that he'll be 28y/o week 2 of the 32015 season.
 
He hasn't lived up to expectation this year, but how much of that is due to the circus of the 49ers/Harbaugh "dance" this season?  Is he still capable of being a top receiver and should the Ravens actively pursue him this off season?

 

One thing for sure..  He does not want to play for a team that has Seattle on its plate twice a year.

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Crabtree really has no value right now. I'd be surprised if he signs anything more than a 1 year contract with a team. He was willing to bet on himself with his rookie contract. I'm pretty sure he's going to be willing to bet on himself yet again. I could see him going to the Colts or another team with a good QB situation.

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From over the cap the Ravens should carry over 5.997 million over also Ngata should get restructured or cut. Cutting him saves 8.5mil I also think Canty and Koch are candidates Koch is due 3.1 mil ext year no way a punter gets that not to mention Webb will get restructured too, but the extra 6 will help but again no high priced FA

Expect an increase in the salary cap by at least 10-12 million
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Personally I'd stay away from Crabtree. losing pitta was like getting a flat tire with no spare on a deserted highway. our secondary needs to be addressed or should I say undressed as in a clean slate. Riley cooper or Dwayne bowe would be ideal

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One thing for sure..  He does not want to play for a team that has Seattle on its plate twice a year

ha yea man , not sure he's a fan of dockers khaki pants sponsoring harboughs either though. im all for bringing rex ryan back for sure.

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Crabtree really has no value right now. I'd be surprised if he signs anything more than a 1 year contract with a team. He was willing to bet on himself with his rookie contract. I'm pretty sure he's going to be willing to bet on himself yet again. I could see him going to the Colts or another team with a good QB situation.

 

I agree ... I think he's similar to Hakeem Nicks who took a 1 year deal w/ the Colts. Both have looked like #1 WR's at times but have been injury prone and still need to prove their value. 

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Meh; the only offensive weapon I would want the Ravens to sign from the 49ers, this upcoming off-season, would be Vernon Davis... if he's released due to San Fran's salary cap problems, that is...

This.Pittas'been okay,but we haven't had a TE that defenses had to plan around since Heap.In lack of a true #1 receiver,a playmaking T.E. would do until we could find/draft one. 

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top receivers dont have 1 1000yard season in 6 years lol

 

heck that inaccurate QB appears to have managed to get back to back 1000 yards seasons with boldin.

a feat boldin never got done here.

 

at this point torrey has more TDs in less games then crabtree and they avg about the same first downs per game.

if torrey keeps up this pace he would have much better numbers when he reaches the point where crabtree is now.

 

Well, Boldin gets the short yardage passes, whereas Crabs gets the long bombs.  An inaccurate QB would have trouble with Crabtree streaking on the outside.  Thank God for that or we might not have won the Super Bowl!

 

As for Sherman, he's a good CB.  It's generally easier be be disruptive than productive.  CBs win most the time and he beat Kaepernick as much as he did Crabs.

 

Many had thought of Dez Bryant and Crabtree as having the same attributes and skill sets.  Yeah, they're divas but so are many top receivers and the Ravens locker room is solid enough to help.  They don't often take risks like that...maybe they should start?

 

Marlon, Kamar, Camp and Crabs.

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Tenacious Faulker, on 27 Dec 2014 - 02:55 AM, said:

Well, Boldin gets the short yardage passes, whereas Crabs gets the long bombs.  An inaccurate QB would have trouble with Crabtree streaking on the outside.  Thank God for that or we might not have won the Super Bowl!

 

As for Sherman, he's a good CB.  It's generally easier be be disruptive than productive.  CBs win most the time and he beat Kaepernick as much as he did Crabs.

 

Many had thought of Dez Bryant and Crabtree as having the same attributes and skill sets.  Yeah, they're divas but so are many top receivers and the Ravens locker room is solid enough to help.  They don't often take risks like that...maybe they should start?

 

Marlon, Kamar, Camp and Crabs.

 

he has 1 1000 yard season in 6 years and boldin hasent been there for 2 and same goes for keapernick.

 

if he cant beat the #1 corner 1on1, what makes you think he will beat double teams?

 

Also he doesent get bombs alone..

Boldin is actually avg more yards per catch so that argument wont fly lol.

 

also neither marlon,kamar,camp and crabs are deep threats.

none of them can stretch a defense.

we will face the same problems we had with mason , boldin and housh only now we got worse RouteRunners lol.

 

Why would the ravens take the risk on a guy less productive then what they have now and who will cost more as well?

Not to mention seems to be injury prone as well and has the risk of being a locker room cancer?

 

At least Dez has been really productive and healthy lol.

I can see why people would take the risk on him.

 

Torrey Smith has out produced Crabtree so far and torrey brings a skill set way harder to find then that of crabtree.

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The Mom Gene, on 26 Dec 2014 - 7:10 PM, said:

I think because they "rely" solely on Boldin out there.....  that's why.  You don't see them passing the ball around at all.

 

maybe its because boldin is just better?

 

also boldin has been there for only 2 seasons.

 

crabtree is in his 6th season.

 

yet only 1 1000yard season.......

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maybe its because boldin is just better?

 

also boldin has been there for only 2 seasons.

 

crabtree is in his 6th season.

 

yet only 1 1000yard season.......

Yeah, but he was suspended for one, or part of one,  if I remember correctly???

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