Vent thread: Texans

[PurpleCity5]

I will say one thing... if we miss the playoffs again this year... it will be the second time in a row... the second year in a row since the Flacco contract... the second year in a row that Flacco is the leader of the team... I love the Ravens but I think if we (Flacco) are playing bad... we need to play Taylor and see if he is worth signing as a back up or after Flacco's guaranteed money is off the books we can cut him and move on. The Houston game would have been a perfect time to add a wrinkle in the game and use Taylor some to keep Texans from running so far upfield. A little old college option may have worked and gave a Flacco a chance to catch his breath... He was scared and has always played squared against the Texans the bengals and occasionally the steelers. Face it guys we were decimated this year on defense but we (offense) struggled against good defensive teams... yes we beat some bad teams to pad our record but other than that what strong defensive team did we beat. When we beat the steelers early in the year I believe they were hurting on offense and defense... since the Flacco deal I believe we are in rebuilding mode... if we miss the playoffs with this soft of a schedule and for a second time in a row... you have to admit some changes need to be made.

Play Tyrod? Good Luck. 

[Ed_Reed_Pick_Six]

So what are we rating our chances now? Pittsburgh and Cincinnati both beat superior teams to the Texans, and are in.

 

Honestly, to play that poorly in a game of that magnitude, wow. San Diego struggled to a huge win, as did the aforementioned division rivals. Pre 2012 teams would not have done this. I miss our old teams lol 

[jar2260]

With the way the offensive line played it would not have made a difference who played Quarter Back, Joe was lucky to survive. It might have helped if we had the pocket roll out away from Watt, but since he ran right by with no one slowing him down he probably would have caught Joe from behind! We needed to have at least two people hitting him, and that might not have worked!

[stampedehero]

Trying to stay positive it's hard though lol. Had you said it's a Browns bag situation that would have helped me some.

Na........ that would be a play on words triggering a reverse curse.  Or we can visualize it as putting them in a bag and giving them a Deacon Jones (he quoted he wanted to put QB;s in a bag and beat it with a baseball bat)

  BTW:My son and I are going to the game. I'll tell you if the beer tastes fresh.  

[stampedehero]

With all due respect to Dallas Clark, Brandon Stokely, Owen Daniels and Steve Smith, Sr., all of whom I hold in high regard, this approach to filling our receiving corps to replace Boldin and Pitta hasn't proven to be the best solution to our problems on offense. I'm just reinforcing your point because I agree with it. I think Ozzie Newsome could have caught two passes today. Wasn't that the total production we got from our TEs. And the throw to Steve Smith that went over his head --- well, wven the commentator said that if he was two inches taller he would have caught it. The only thing that's constant in life is that everything will change. Notwithstanding the various season-ending injuries and the self-inflicted wounds by Rice and Ngata, it's really time for change in the Ravens organization at a lot of levels. Whaddya say, Steve? Enough is enough!

 

BTW, did ya happen to catch the play in which Arian Foster ran for 35 yards? He ran thru a hole in the middle of our line, eluded Darryl Smith and then had two of our DBs chasing him down the field. They were the Keystone Cops, I think! This defensive backfield is really bad, I mean really, really bad. It does make me appreciate Chris MacCallister, Ed Reed, Samari Rolle, Dawan Landry and Jim Leonhard a lot more though. 

Keystone Cops   Thats funny   The team destroyed themselves both morally and physically against a team that wanted it more. 

[HoldingCall]

To those who thought Kubiak had an advantage prior to this game because he knew Texans players; wrong! I debated this with someone that since the players also knew Kubiak, he did not have an advantage. It now appear the advantage was all theirs.

[JoeyFlex5]

No, but other guys were.

cj mosley was hands down the BPA at that point and this season shows it.

[jazz1988]

Which could have been avoided if Harbaugh had taken charge and seen to it that Joe worked with Dennison to get himself together. Which could have been done while the offense was on the sideline, so Tyrod would not have been needed.

 

Actually Gary Kubiak talks with Flacco all the time so there's no need for Harbaugh to see to it that Flacco works with Dennison also Dennison stays in the booth.  Kubiak used to be a quarterback coach and  this is his offense so he knows how to work with quarterbacks and he consistently talks with Joe Flacco while on the sidelines about what's going on and etc on the field.

[Ravenseconbeast]

cj mosley was hands down the BPA at that point and this season shows it.

+1

People keep screaming we needed WR. But look at where we picked our players. #1 absolutely were BPA.

Mosley and Jernigan were the right pick.

Next year we hope a major playmaker on offense is there @ our reach, but if its a stretch, we're not wasting our top picks on bad players.

[JoeyFlex5]

+1

People keep screaming we needed WR. But look at where we picked our players. #1 absolutely were BPA.

Mosley and Jernigan were the right pick.

Next year we hope a major playmaker on offense is there @ our reach, but if its a reach, were not wasting our top picks on bad players.

BPA is how you build dynasties, look at all the dynasties out there, they found their qb, and then drafted BPA year after year and suddenly they had juggernaut teams, im sure most of those teams had bigger needs, but by picking the player with the most talent regardless of position is what made them well round and strongly built teams in the long run. 

 

its better to have a superstar in every position but 1 than to have mediocre players across the board that you wasted high draft picks on.

[DomMcRaven]

Virtually none. Joe didn't have time honestly.

What a shame. I hope it's incorporated more often now.

[ratedr]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-preston-ravens-column-1223-20141222-column.html

When is the last time someone has said they "smacked us in the mouth."

The team is soft. Harbaugh shipped out all the "problem children" and this is what we have left. Welcome to the new normal for the Baltimore Ravens.

[rmcjacket23]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-preston-ravens-column-1223-20141222-column.html

When is the last time someone has said they "smacked us in the mouth."

The team is soft. Harbaugh shipped out all the "problem children" and this is what we have left. Welcome to the new normal for the Baltimore Ravens.

About once a season EVERY season we get out physicaled by somebody. This isn't something new.

 

It happened when Ray and Ed were here, and its probably going to happen every year for the rest of eternity. Its just the nature of the NFL. Happens to Seattle too.

[The Mom Gene]

About once a season EVERY season we get out physicaled by somebody. This isn't something new.

 

It happened when Ray and Ed were here, and its probably going to happen every year for the rest of eternity. Its just the nature of the NFL. Happens to Seattle too.

That, and it's Mike Preston....  Sheesh

[ratedr]

That, and it's Mike Preston.... Sheesh

It's a Mike Preston article but the quote is not from him.

[ratedr]

We had the easiest road in the division. PIT clinched by beating a playoff contending Chiefs team...CIN clinched by beating the #2 Broncos.

Meanwhile we couldn't beat a guy who was hunting deer last Sunday.

[The Mom Gene]

It's a Mike Preston article but the quote is not from him.

and he just felt the need to publish it again...  I really despise that guy.  Him and Tony Lombardi.

[ratedr]

and he just felt the need to publish it again... I really despise that guy. Him and Tony Lombardi.

I don't like either of them, but sometimes I agree with them.

[Ravenslifer]

cj mosley was hands down the BPA at that point and this season shows it.

 

I was clearly not talking about CJ in the first round if you bothered to read the other posts I had written afterwords.  I was talking about the fact that there were ample opportunities in the second and third round to take a receiver, and we didn't.  Which is the same story every single year.  If you want an opportunity to play a top defense like Houston and beat them, you need the offensive playmakers to counter their defensive playmakers, and we don't have them.

[StingerNLG]

Haha the very definition of figuratively

 

Hahah ok.   In all seriousness I was hoping so.   I'm a PSL owner so like many here I am financially invested in this team.   But no sport is worth that, LOL.

[StingerNLG]

He wouldn't just be going "over there". He'd be working with Dennison, throwing the ball on the sidelines, trying to restore his broken mechanics which would have also gone a long way to restore his broken confidence.

 

I'd think that Joe would understand the difference between being benched and out of the game and being brought over for a few moments to get himself straightened and settled. And as for Tyrod, if he's any type of competitor, then he'd welcome any chance to get on the field.

 

If the option wouldn't work, then have him scramble around before either throwing to a wide open receiver (unlikely) or just throwing it away. If we have to punt once to get Joe back to being Joe, then I'll take that trade-off.

 

Doing something is generally better than doing nothing when doing nothing is sure to lead to certain disaster.

 

There are so many things wrong with this:

 

First, if "working with Flacco on the sidelines" was so important, why didn't they do it during halftime?

 

Second, pulling your starter off the field with only an 11 point deficit is sending the wrong message to the rest of the team, the QB, and the other team.  

 

And what message are you sending Tyrod?  "Hey man, we don't expect you to do anything, but just go out there and run around a bit until Flacco is done warming up on the sidelines."   Come on.

 

You know how you fix Flacco during the game?   Get Kubiak to change the gameplan to suit what's going on.  Run a bootleg or two to get Joe moving laterally and forward again.   Call some quick passes to get Flacco to 3 step and out.   Start giving him some easy completions and low-percentage passes to get a rhythm.   

 

Flacco is 7 years in the league, he didn't all of a sudden out of the blue simply forget how to throw a football.  So he doesn't need to come out of the game to get a lesson from the QB coach on footwork.   It's a ridiculous notion that no team in the NFL would ever do.    Did you think they were going to pull Peyton Manning off the field last night to get him right since he threw 4 picks, 2 of which were pick 6's?

 

This is the NFL, not high school.

[berad]

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-sp-preston-ravens-column-1223-20141222-column.html

When is the last time someone has said they "smacked us in the mouth."

The team is soft. Harbaugh shipped out all the "problem children" and this is what we have left. Welcome to the new normal for the Baltimore Ravens.

About Steve Smith:

 

I'm seeing why Carolina cut him.

It's not about being offended, he yaps too much for a guy who's had little production recently. His mouth is cute and funny when all is well but you need to know when to reel it in. After that performance yesterday his biggest concern should not be dumb fans.

Carolina expected it too, which is why they got rid of him.

Can't have it both ways.

Harbaugh is partially responsible for bringing in the players you're refering, too. Yet, when you hear the team talk about Boldin, Harbaugh probably didn't want him to go but Ozzie saw the $6M hit. Or unless you're talking about someone else... McKinnie sucked, Pollard is still unexplained - maybe you can pin that on Harbaugh.

Either way, it's a tired narrative and not the issue with the team. Our issues have been injuries, mostly on the defensive side, and inconsistently coming up with plays when we need them (Cincy x2/SD). Harbaugh and the team have navigated all the outside crap with Ray Rice, Haloti Ngata, etc.

[The Raven]

Which could have been avoided if Harbaugh had taken charge and seen to it that Joe worked with Dennison to get himself together. Which could have been done while the offense was on the sideline, so Tyrod would not have been needed.

 

If you had a pair of eyes you would have seen Flacco was working with Kubiak after every drive.

[ratedr]

About Steve Smith:

Can't have it both ways.

Harbaugh is partially responsible for bringing in the players you're refering, too. Yet, when you hear the team talk about Boldin, Harbaugh probably didn't want him to go but Ozzie saw the $6M hit. Or unless you're talking about someone else... McKinnie sucked, Pollard is still unexplained - maybe you can pin that on Harbaugh.

Either way, it's a tired narrative and not the issue with the team. Our issues have been injuries, mostly on the defensive side, and inconsistently coming up with plays when we need them (Cincy x2/SD)

Steve Smith and Boldin aren't the same type of attitude guys. SSS's bravado is more about himself. Never seen him as a great team guy. Not like Boldin at all.

He's closer to a Pollard, who I agree was a cancer.

[Tru11]

ratedr, on 23 Dec 2014 - 4:15 PM, said:

Steve Smith and Boldin aren't the same type of attitude guys. SSS's bravado is more about himself. Never seen him as a great team guy. Not like Boldin at all.

He's closer to a Pollard, who I agree was a cancer.

 

steve smith not a team guy?

 

the dude gave everything to the panthers and wasted basicially his career playing with mediocre QBs lol.

 

the best QBs he ever played with where jake delhomme and recently cam newton.

 

boldin said he would retire instead of playing for another team and what you know he is still playing lol.

if he was a team guy he would have taken the cut or restructerd.

 

im not going to fault him for not taking the cut but he moved on pretty easily.

 

steve smith is still pissed off his only team cut him lol.

he might have a big mouth but you cant question the dudes heart though.

[Alaska Alaska!]

Steve Smith and Boldin aren't the same type of attitude guys. SSS's bravado is more about himself. Never seen him as a great team guy. Not like Boldin at all.

He's closer to a Pollard, who I agree was a cancer.

Nah.  SSS lays his body on the line to both make catches AND make blocks for his team.  That's a very unfair statement you just made about him.  And that's exactly why he made the comment about the "fat, lazy, coach QBs".  People are asserting false stuff unjustly without sufficient evidence. 

[Florida Ravens Fan]

anyone else was annoyed when were two scores down in the 4th and the players are just walking up to the line. Showed no urgency at all and was just wasting their time. This team doesn't look cohesive maybe Johns locker room voice is falling flat. 

[ravensfan520]

Leave Tyrod out of this! Don't even bring his name up! Tyrod is my man but this team rises and falls with Joe Flacco at the helm. Give it a rest with the Tyrod mentions. Smh!

And since the contract we have fallen...

[rmcjacket23]

And since the contract we have fallen...

Except the contract has been incredibly team friendly so far...

[berad]

Steve Smith and Boldin aren't the same type of attitude guys. SSS's bravado is more about himself. Never seen him as a great team guy. Not like Boldin at all.

He's closer to a Pollard, who I agree was a cancer.

Don't agree with you on Steve Smith, but I'll leave it.

So what's the issue, then? If Boldin was a golden, team-first guy why would Harbaugh ship him out? Harbaugh said he was sad to see Boldin go but it was Ozzie who saw the $6M number and sent him packing.

So who are the "problem children" that Harbaugh sent away?