Vent thread: Texans

[Raving_Heathen]

The Texans D, running game and receiving corps with Foster are not mediocre.

QB is where they are weak.

We got thoroughly outcoached by them too.

 

Their 7-7 record is the very definition of mediocre.

[redrum52]

As many misses as hits in the first 3 rounds.

In 13 he found a starting FB, NT, RT and I think SS(I think Elam starts).  In this draft he got Mosley a starter and Jernigan, who will be.  Urban was suppose to be playing and I also forgot about KLM.  Look at the 13 draft and tell me how many players are doing well.  Just do me a favor and look at the first round selections.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Only caught the last 5 mins of the game. What was happening with the OL? Noticed Hurst at LT and Yanda I think at RT. Injuries for our tackles or just bad play?

 

Innjuries.

Not that they were playing well before they got hurt, but with them out, it just got worse as Watt thoroughly dominated Hurst, who got no help from a TE or RB. Just left one on one with the best defensive force in the game today, a ridiculous decision by our coaches not to make the obvious adjustment there.

[Raving_Heathen]

I heard the same, clearly he was wrong. At some point in the season it appeared to be the case but the Ravens have not gotten better as the season matured.

 

Bayless really needs to get off the Ravens bandwagon. Everything he touches is poisoned. Please go back to hating on this team.

[thisme007]

The final score indicates otherwise!

The Jags beat the steelers,Rams beat the Broncos,and Buffalo beat the Packers,and look where there at..

[ratedr]

The Texans have good talent outside of QB. Unfortunately I can't help but think they just knew what Kubiak was gonna do. That's on Kubiak.

[Militant X 1]

The Texans is not better than the Ravens..

 

The were today...a whole lot better than the Ravens!  Not even close!

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Their 7-7 record is the very definition of mediocre.

You mean 8-7.

And they were not mediocre today.

[thisme007]

Even with the good defensive effort, this is the second week in a row where we would've been torched if the team had a decent QB. We won't be able to hold good QBs under 30. And if the offense can't score...it's over.

Absolutely not..

[rmcjacket23]

In 13 he found a starting FB, NT, RT and I think SS(I think Elam starts).  In this draft he got Mosley a starter and Jernigan, who will be.  Urban was suppose to be playing and I also forgot about KLM.  Look at the 13 draft and tell me how many players are doing well.  Just do me a favor and look at the first round selections.

There's no point in arguing this anymore.

 

The notion of the Ravens having poor drafts in the last two seasons as essentially been proven false by any reasonable person.

 

If you can get decent 2-3 starters out of any draft class, you've had a great draft. And if you can get basically 1 pro bowl-type player every 3 years, you've had a pretty great draft.

 

The notion of the Ravens nailing like 5-6 starters out of a single draft was never realistic nor has it probably ever happened anyway.

[ravensdfan]

... the Ravens to be a team in like manner of the Patriots-who always seem to make it to the post season?  Hmm.

Today was crap but let's be honest. Even with this team we would be in the post season every year in that division. The Patriots have had no real competition there for years and years.

[thisme007]

The were today...a whole lot better than the Ravens!  Not even close!

Absolutely not..

[ravensdfan]

There's no point in arguing this anymore.

 

The notion of the Ravens having poor drafts in the last two seasons as essentially been proven false by any reasonable person.

 

If you can get decent 2-3 starters out of any draft class, you've had a great draft. And if you can get basically 1 pro bowl-type player every 3 years, you've had a pretty great draft.

 

The notion of the Ravens nailing like 5-6 starters out of a single draft was never realistic nor has it probably ever happened anyway.

It's not a great draft if you aren't getting the job done that is needed for your team to compete. Fill the defensive line with pro bowlers (where we've spent out last six top picks) and watch them be a non-factor like today because you ignored the secondary and receivers that can actually run a quick route and be there to counter the blitz.

[BmoreBird22]

In this game Flacco was way off on at least three open receivers everyone saw (one potential TD). Normally, I am on his side even on tough days, but this one is on him. Sure the Texans put him under duress, but what separates an elite QB from a good one is that under such duress they remain accurate hitting open receivers. That usually backs off an all out pass rush.

Guess Aaron Rodgers isn't elite because that wasn't him against the Bills at all

[ravensdfan]

The Texans have good talent outside of QB. Unfortunately I can't help but think they just knew what Kubiak was gonna do. That's on Kubiak.

I blame a lot of this on Kubiak. They were even talking about how it looked like the defense was always one step ahead of him and knew everything he was going to do. He should have went outside his usual playbook and tendencies when facing a team that knew him so well.

Instead he played scared, vanilla and conservative. That did NOT help the struggling offense in the least and even made it worse.

[JoeyFlex5]

 

 

Torrey Smith might have been the single worst player on the field. Responsible for Flacco's 3rd INT and just completely gave up on a route that likely ends in a TD. How he has 10 TDs I don't know. I do not want him back next year unless he agrees to a deal worth the price of a Happy Meal.

 

have you ever tried sprinting through a sudden cramp? when i get a sudden leg cramp at work i can barely move.  

 

not 100% positive that it was a leg cramp but his reaction certainly would lead anyone to believe thats what it was. a cramped hamstring will completely lock up your leg and make it literally physically impossible to perform the motions to sprint. may be a minor and temporary thing that can just be shook off, but while that cramp is happening its a pretty debilitating injury. 

 

that said, even with the 2 touchdowns, he was god awful today. 

 

another thing i wanna point out is how bad our interior line was, jj watt gets alot of praise but we dedicated a undrafted rookie to block him with no help what so ever, so he just kinda had a easy day, crick on the other hand, absolutely dominated the run game, our interior line let him blow up just about every run play we attempted.

[PerpetuallyBored74]

It's not a great draft if you aren't getting the job done that is needed for your team to compete. Fill the defensive line with pro bowlers (where we've spent out last six top picks) and watch them be a non-factor like today because you ignored the secondary and receivers that can actually run a quick route and be there to counter the blitz.

 

This.

 

I blame a lot of this on Kubiak. They were even talking about how it looked like the defense was always one step ahead of him and knew everything he was going to do. He should have went outside his usual playbook and tendencies when facing a team that knew him so well.

Instead he played scared, vanilla and conservative. That did NOT help the struggling offense in the least and even made it worse.

 

And this.

 

We had another "perfect storm" game where all these various factors and circumstances came together at once to produce a perfect storm that we had no chance of overcoming.

Last year it was against Buffalo, the year before it was also against the Texans.

Seems we have at least one such game every season.

[RaineV1]

The Texans do have a better team than the Ravens overall. The Ravens have a much better QB but the only position I can honestly say the Ravens are better at. Their o-lines are about even. It's a close matchup with their front seven but they have freaking Superman on the d-line. And it's not even a contest when you compare the Ravens secondary and receiving core to the Texans.

 

The only reason the Texans aren't a playoff team is because of bad qb play. Even Marc Sanchez would have been able to get them into the playoffs.

[Raving_Heathen]

You mean 8-7.

And they were not mediocre today.

 

No I really meant 7-7, since that's what they were coming into this game. But yeah, by virtue of them destroying us today, they would now be 8-7.

[ratedr]

have you ever tried sprinting through a sudden cramp? when i get a sudden leg cramp at work i can barely move.  

 

not 100% positive that it was a leg cramp but his reaction certainly would lead anyone to believe thats what it was. a cramped hamstring will completely lock up your leg and make it literally physically impossible to perform the motions to sprint. may be a minor and temporary thing that can just be shook off, but while that cramp is happening its a pretty debilitating injury. 

 

that said, even with the 2 touchdowns, he was god awful today. 

 

another thing i wanna point out is how bad our interior line was, jj watt gets alot of praise but we dedicated a undrafted rookie to block him with no help what so ever, so he just kinda had a easy day, crick on the other hand, absolutely dominated the run game, our interior line let him blow up just about every run play we attempted.

The cynic in me wonders if he acted like it was a cramp to save face. I'm that down on him.

[Raving_Heathen]

The Texans do have a better team than the Ravens overall. The Ravens have a much better QB but the only position I can honestly say the Ravens are better at. Their o-lines are about even. It's a close matchup with their front seven but they have freaking Superman on the d-line. And it's not even a contest when you compare the Ravens secondary and receiving core to the Texans.

 

The only reason the Texans aren't a playoff team is because of bad qb play. Even Marc Sanchez would have been able to get them into the playoffs.

 

Let's not go overboard here. I'm pretty sure a lot of Philly fans would disagree.

[monkeycatt]

do the Chiefs have any incentive (other than pride/being a division-rival spoiler) to beat SD next week?  i mean, they're pretty much ouf of playoff contention at this point, right?

[rmw10]

do the Chiefs have any incentive (other than pride/being a division-rival spoiler) to beat SD next week?  i mean, they're pretty much ouf of playoff contention at this point, right?

 

Nope.  They're still in the hunt.  They need a lot to go their way but they aren't going to simply lay down.

[ravensdfan]

do the Chiefs have any incentive (other than pride/being a division-rival spoiler) to beat SD next week?  i mean, they're pretty much ouf of playoff contention at this point, right?

That spoiler / division thing can be a pretty big incentive. I honestly don't know if they're out mathematically or not.

[ratedr]

do the Chiefs have any incentive (other than pride/being a division-rival spoiler) to beat SD next week?  i mean, they're pretty much ouf of playoff contention at this point, right?

Unfortunately no. If we win they'll be eliminated.

 

That said, they are rivals so don't count them out. Andy Reid never gives up. Remember that SD was a missed kick away from losing to the Chiefs at home last year despite the Chiefs playing backups.

 

But I'd feel more comfortable with our chances if DEN wins tomorrow.

[Militant X 1]

Today was crap but let's be honest. Even with this team we would be in the post season every year in that division. The Patriots have had no real competition there for years and years.

 

See but that's my point!  You guys want to keep giving the props to the division that they are in and not them.  The Patriots just have a culture about them...regardless of who the WR's and HB's are and even with those on the defense that's says....we're the team to beat!  That mentality and culture of winning transcends beyond just their division rivals.

[Raving_Heathen]

Guess Aaron Rodgers isn't elite because that wasn't him against the Bills at all

 

Saying this as a Flacco supporter who's made similar arguments in the past, but guys like Rodgers, Peyton, and Brady are held to a different standard because they're expected to do a lot more for their offenses and franchises than Flacco (also throw in Roethlisberger and Eli, if it makes you feel better). Those guys get a pass for the handful of bad games they have every year because without them their teams aren't doing anything.

[4everraven]

In 13 he found a starting FB, NT, RT and I think SS(I think Elam starts). In this draft he got Mosley a starter and Jernigan, who will be. Urban was suppose to be playing and I also forgot about KLM. Look at the 13 draft and tell me how many players are doing well. Just do me a favor and look at the first round selections.

The only difference makers are B Williams, Mosley and Jernigan. Elam? Really? A hit? Starting itself in my opinion doesn't count as a hit. But I do understand the thinking that every starter is a hit. I don't prescribe to that thinking though. Look how many starters are on the Jags, Jets, etc. I wouldn't consider all 22 on those teams hits.

[Raving_Heathen]

Unfortunately no. If we win they'll be eliminated.

 

 

What time do they play? Hopefully it's at the same time as the Ravens/Browns

[ratedr]

What time do they play? Hopefully it's at the same time as the Ravens/Browns

It is, thankfully. Hopefully they're not scoreboard watching.