Rashaan Melvin

[The Raven]

Makes you wonder how he went almost an entire season w/out getting an opportunity w/ the Ravens or other teams.

 

 

Happens to a lot of players.  Sometimes opportunity is just as important as talent.  Also, some guys play better on the field than practice, but never get meaningful snaps.  

 

From what I've read, injuries kept him off the field, so he never had opportunities to prove himself. Also, he came from a small school, so he was raw and developmentally behind. Maybe it's just now clicking.

 

He seems to be more of a press man guy, instead of a zone corner. I think Tampa (where he played) likes zone guys more. We've used him almost exclusively as a bump and run man.

[omar586]

from what i saw last 2 games he's playing solid football

[H8R]

His skill set does not match up will with Antonio Brown. Shifty little guy

Who's does...?

[izvoodoo]

From what I've read, injuries kept him off the field, so he never had opportunities to prove himself. Also, he came from a small school, so he was raw and developmentally behind. Maybe it's just now clicking.

 

He seems to be more of a press man guy, instead of a zone corner. I think Tampa (where he played) likes zone guys more. We've used him almost exclusively as a bump and run man.

Well Lovie Smith is their coach right now, and I know they've played Tampa 2.  It's like how Arthur Brown is CLEARLY a 4-3 OLB

[izvoodoo]

Who's does...?

Rashaan Melvin.  I'd be worried about Melvin on Brown.  Of course I'd be worried about anyone matched up on Brown.

[Ravenslifer]

Rashaan Melvin.  I'd be worried about Melvin on Brown.  Of course I'd be worried about anyone matched up on Brown.

 

I think that was his point - what cornerback can actually match up with Antonio Brown - he's made some good CBs look pretty pedestrian.  He had a good game when we had Jimmy early in the season, then absolutely destroyed us in the second game.  He played well in both his games against Joe Haden, played well against JJ, against pretty much every opponent this year.

[rmw10]

Well Lovie Smith is their coach right now, and I know they've played Tampa 2.  It's like how Arthur Brown is CLEARLY a 4-3 OLB

 

Yep scheme fits always push guys out.  Like you said, Arthur Brown is best in a 4-3.  I don't think he's ever put on the weight as we expected.  In the case of Melvin, it seems that he's a guy that simply wasn't a fit for a more zone oriented scheme.

[rmcjacket23]

I think that was his point - what cornerback can actually match up with Antonio Brown - he's made some good CBs look pretty pedestrian.  He had a good game when we had Jimmy early in the season, then absolutely destroyed us in the second game.  He played well in both his games against Joe Haden, played well against JJ, against pretty much every opponent this year.

Melvin is frankly tough to gauge. Obviously we'd all like to see him back, but I certainly don't think he should just be handed a starting job opposite Jimmy.

 

We don't really know what he is. We know he's doing fine, but we also don't know if that's based on the competition he's facing and/or the fact that the corners playing in front of him before sucked so badly that maybe he's not really that good but he's just better than the Brown/Gorrer type guys.

 

I'd like to resign him and bring in some competition via the draft and/or FA and have him compete for a starting job. If he wins it, great, we know he's probably up for the gig at that point.

[H8R]

I want him tomah until he proves he can't... Because from what I've seen, he's solid enough ... As some say, he'll be facing a quality QB this time.... We'll see how he does, but I can tell you his mentality on the field is raven like and he's aggressive , long and good speed.

[rmw10]

Melvin is frankly tough to gauge. Obviously we'd all like to see him back, but I certainly don't think he should just be handed a starting job opposite Jimmy.

 

We don't really know what he is. We know he's doing fine, but we also don't know if that's based on the competition he's facing and/or the fact that the corners playing in front of him before sucked so badly that maybe he's not really that good but he's just better than the Brown/Gorrer type guys.

 

I'd like to resign him and bring in some competition via the draft and/or FA and have him compete for a starting job. If he wins it, great, we know he's probably up for the gig at that point.

 

I'm hoping we don't have to worry about being completely reliant on someone like Melvin next year, although I do think he's been impressive in his short time so far.  Ideally he's the #4/5 on the depth chart, as we know he can at least step up and handle a larger role if injuries necessitate it.

 

In my mind, I'm really hoping our depth chart shapes up as...

 

#1: Jimmy Smith (hoping he recovers from the lisfranc of course)

#2: Lardarius Webb (hoping that he continues playing as he has lately)

#3: Veteran FA (more of a mid tier guy, nothing too expensive)

#4: High-Mid Round Pick (someone to develop for the future when Webb's contract becomes even more of a hindrance)

#5: Rashaan Melvin (could slide up to 4 depending on the pick)

#6: Asa Jackson (could honestly take him or leave him)

[The Raven]

I'm actually relatively confident in Melvin vs Antonio Brown. Melvin's press coverage is lethal and Brown struggles against press, as most speed receivers do.

[Cillmatic]

#1: Jimmy Smith (hoping he recovers from the lisfranc of course)

#2: Lardarius Webb (hoping that he continues playing as he has lately)

#3: Veteran FA (more of a mid tier guy, nothing too expensive)

#4: High-Mid Round Pick (someone to develop for the future when Webb's contract becomes even more of a hindrance)

#5: Rashaan Melvin (could slide up to 4 depending on the pick)

#6: Asa Jackson (could honestly take him or leave him)

Melvin's better than any old free agent we'd find. And es good enough to be our #3, which brings us to the question of whether or not we draft a CB high in the draft.

[Cillmatic]

If he can handle Antonio Brown this week he's a keeper.

[rmw10]

Melvin's better than any old free agent we'd find. And es good enough to be our #3, which brings us to the question of whether or not we draft a CB high in the draft.

 

I'm not talking about some 30+ year old guy.  I'm looking more for a mid-late 20s guy in the mid tier price range.

 

I'm more than alright if Melvin comes into camp and wins a bigger role.  I'm not a fan of handing guys roles and counting on them.  We tried that this year and it didn't work at all.  We need to add more guys there, both for next year and the more distant future.

Edited December 31, 2014 by rmw10

[Gordo52]

I'm hoping we don't have to worry about being completely reliant on someone like Melvin next year, although I do think he's been impressive in his short time so far. Ideally he's the #4/5 on the depth chart, as we know he can at least step up and handle a larger role if injuries necessitate it.

In my mind, I'm really hoping our depth chart shapes up as...

#1: Jimmy Smith (hoping he recovers from the lisfranc of course)

#2: Lardarius Webb (hoping that he continues playing as he has lately)

#3: Veteran FA (more of a mid tier guy, nothing too expensive)

#4: High-Mid Round Pick (someone to develop for the future when Webb's contract becomes even more of a hindrance)

#5: Rashaan Melvin (could slide up to 4 depending on the pick)

#6: Asa Jackson (could honestly take him or leave him)

Agreed entirely.... ideal scenario.

Plus you can never have enough good/average corners. Combine that with Melvin still having some upside and I think he could challenge for that 3/4/5 CB spot and be a nice surprise.

[rmw10]

Agreed entirely.... ideal scenario.

Plus you can never have enough good/average corners. Combine that with Melvin still having some upside and I think he could challenge for that 3/4/5 CB spot and be a nice surprise.

 

Yeah.  I should have included it in the post you quoted, but as I just mentioned above, I'm more than alright if Melvin plays well in camp and preseason and earns a higher spot on the depth chart.  I'm just not one that's about handing a guy a job anymore, with the disaster that we saw this year.

[allblackraven]

If he can handle Antonio Brown this week he's a keeper.

That's pretty tough condition to put on a guy with 2 NFL career starts. He's a keeper regardless of what happens on Saturday but if he handles him well, it will let us go BPA in the draft and maybe even get that 1st round WR that we crave for.

[Gordo52]

Yeah. I should have included it in the post you quoted, but as I just mentioned above, I'm more than alright if Melvin plays well in camp and preseason and earns a higher spot on the depth chart. I'm just not one that's about handing a guy a job anymore, with the disaster that we saw this year.

Agreed.

Could also add 2013 with the young group of WR's who never stepped up

Edited December 31, 2014 by Gordo52

[52liveforever]

Melvin's better than any old free agent we'd find. And es good enough to be our #3, which brings us to the question of whether or not we draft a CB high in the draft.

 

i think we still should draft high for corner in the draft, this season is enough proof of that. even if Melvin continues to impress. our top two corners are very injury prone. also depending on the year jimmy has next season we may not be able to get him back. hopefully he is a priority, but we have quite a few BIG contacts on this team already, if we cant get some of them re done or restructured jimmy could be too costly. getting a high pick in next yr to get that yr of experience inn case of injuries or jimmy smith walking i think is important.

[757RavensFan]

I'm hoping we don't have to worry about being completely reliant on someone like Melvin next year, although I do think he's been impressive in his short time so far. Ideally he's the #4/5 on the depth chart, as we know he can at least step up and handle a larger role if injuries necessitate it.

In my mind, I'm really hoping our depth chart shapes up as...

#1: Jimmy Smith (hoping he recovers from the lisfranc of course)

#2: Lardarius Webb (hoping that he continues playing as he has lately)

#3: Veteran FA (more of a mid tier guy, nothing too expensive)

#4: High-Mid Round Pick (someone to develop for the future when Webb's contract becomes even more of a hindrance)

#5: Rashaan Melvin (could slide up to 4 depending on the pick)

#6: Asa Jackson (could honestly take him or leave him)

If we have a deep playoff run and Melvin more than holds his own vs the talented QBs in the playoffs, I personally feel the 3rd CB spot is his to lose going into camp. He would have earned it plus he's salary cap friendly.

[pitchblack_20]

If he can handle Antonio Brown this week he's a keeper.

That's the way I'm looking at it. No one really knows what to expect from him, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say I think he may play well.

[thisme007]

This guy will make some big Plays..

[I AM LEGEND]

Below is a list of 2015 F.A. CBs. And how much they're making this year.

Tramon Williams CB UFA GB TBD 31 7 $9,500,000

Ike Taylor CB UFA PIT TBD 34 11 $7,692,403

Darrelle Revis CB UFA NE TBD 29 7 $7,000,000

Kareem Jackson CB UFA HOU TBD 26 4 $4,335,000

Antonio Cromartie CB UFA ARI TBD 30 8 $4,000,000

Bradley Fletcher CB UFA PHI TBD 28 5 $3,650,000

Charles Tillman CB UFA CHI TBD 33 11 $3,050,000

Walter Thurmond CB UFA NYG TBD 27 4 $3,000,000

Brandon Flowers CB UFA SD TBD 28 6 $3,000,000

Darius Butler CB UFA IND TBD 28 5 $3,000,000

Patrick Robinson CB UFA NO TBD 27 4 $2,804,333

Kyle Wilson CB UFA NYJ TBD 27 4 $2,387,400

Jarrett Bush CB UFA GB TBD 30 8 $2,033,333

Terence Newman CB UFA CIN TBD 36 11 $2,000,000

Mike Jenkins CB UFA TB TBD 29 7 $1,875,000

Chris Culliver CB UFA SF TBD 26 3 $1,580,719

Buster Skrine CB UFA CLE TBD 25 3 $1,481,500

Robert McClain CB UFA ATL TBD 26 3 $1,431,000

Josh Gordy CB UFA IND TBD 27 4 $1,431,000

Alan Ball CB UFA JAC TBD 29 7 $1,305,000

Brandon Harris CB UFA TEN TBD 24 3 $824,907

Christopher Owens CB UFA KC TBD 28 5 $800,000

Shareece Wright CB UFA SD TBD 27 3 $781,035

Davon House CB UFA GB TBD 25 3 $720,145

Perrish Cox CB UFA SF TBD 27 4 $695,000

Byron Maxwell CB UFA SEA TBD 26 3 $673,363

Sterling Moore CB UFA DAL TBD 24 3 $645,000

Chimdi Chekwa CB RFA OAK TBD 26 2 $645,000

Josh Wilson CB UFA ATL TBD 29 7 $635,000

Sherrick McManis CB UFA CHI TBD 27 4 $635,000

Brice McCain CB UFA PIT TBD 28 5 $635,000

Rashean Mathis CB UFA DET TBD 34 11 $635,000

Javier Arenas CB UFA ATL TBD 27 4 $635,000

E.J. Biggers CB UFA WAS TBD 27 5 $635,000

Zackary Bowman CB UFA NYG TBD 30 6 $635,000

Leonard Johnson CB RFA TB TBD 24 3 $572,500

Aaron Ross CB UFA BAL TBD 32 7 $570,000

Cassius Vaughn CB UFA DET TBD 27 4 $570,000

Tony Carter CB RFA DEN TBD 28 4 $570,000

Chris Cook CB UFA SF TBD 27 4 $570,000

Antwon Blake CB RFA PIT TBD 24 2 $570,000

Phillip Adams CB UFA NYJ TBD 26 4 $570,000

Neiko Thorpe CB RFA OAK TBD 24 2 $495,000

James Dockery CB UFA CAR TBD 26 3 $455,294

Chris Lewis-Harris CB ERFA CIN TBD 25 2 $436,765

Demontre Hurst CB ERFA CHI TBD 23 1 $370,588

Tommie Campbell CB UFA JAC TBD 27 4 $341,470

Adrian Davis CB ERFA NO TBD 25 1 $306,334

Chykie Brown CB UFA NYG TBD 28 3 $303,529

Mike Harris CB RFA NYG TBD 25 2 $301,764

Al Louis-Jean CB ERFA CHI TBD 21 $296,470

Chandler Fenner CB ERFA NYG TBD 24 2 $271,764

Teddy Williams CB RFA JAC TBD 26 2 $234,706

Rashaan Melvin CB ERFA BAL TBD 25 1 $232,941

Danny Gorrer CB UFA BAL TBD 28 5 $226,412

R.J. Stanford CB RFA MIA TBD 26 2 $214,706

Tramain Jacobs CB ERFA BAL TBD 22 $170,118

Terrence Frederick CB ERFA NO TBD 24 2 $148,235

Justin Rogers CB UFA WAS TBD 26 3 $113,823

T.J. Heath CB UFA MIA TBD 27 2 $100,588

Antoine Cason CB UFA BAL TBD 28 6 $100,588

Carrington Byndom CB ERFA CAR TBD 22 $98,823

Johsua Thomas CB UFA DET TBD 25 3 $75,882

Chris Greenwood CB UFA BAL TBD 25 1 $67,058

Cameron Fuller CB ERFA SF TBD $24,705

Nick Sukay CB RFA BUF TBD 25 $0

Marquese Wheaton CB RFA TB TBD 27 $0

Myron Rolle CB RFA PIT TBD 28

[rmcjacket23]

I'm hoping we don't have to worry about being completely reliant on someone like Melvin next year, although I do think he's been impressive in his short time so far.  Ideally he's the #4/5 on the depth chart, as we know he can at least step up and handle a larger role if injuries necessitate it.

 

In my mind, I'm really hoping our depth chart shapes up as...

 

#1: Jimmy Smith (hoping he recovers from the lisfranc of course)

#2: Lardarius Webb (hoping that he continues playing as he has lately)

#3: Veteran FA (more of a mid tier guy, nothing too expensive)

#4: High-Mid Round Pick (someone to develop for the future when Webb's contract becomes even more of a hindrance)

#5: Rashaan Melvin (could slide up to 4 depending on the pick)

#6: Asa Jackson (could honestly take him or leave him)

Right, but keep in mind that 1. Webb's final season very well may be in 2015... his cap number is quite big and there will be ample cap savings in 2016 to release him. and 2. there's no guarantee that a mid-round pick will be signed long-term either... it could be on a short term or even one year deal (sort of like the Brandon Flowers deal).

 

So, given that, you could be banking on Melvin to be a significant contributor sooner rather than later.

[757RavensFan]

I'm hoping we don't have to worry about being completely reliant on someone like Melvin next year, although I do think he's been impressive in his short time so far.  Ideally he's the #4/5 on the depth chart, as we know he can at least step up and handle a larger role if injuries necessitate it.

 

In my mind, I'm really hoping our depth chart shapes up as...

 

#1: Jimmy Smith (hoping he recovers from the lisfranc of course)

#2: Lardarius Webb (hoping that he continues playing as he has lately)

#3: Veteran FA (more of a mid tier guy, nothing too expensive)

#4: High-Mid Round Pick (someone to develop for the future when Webb's contract becomes even more of a hindrance)

#5: Rashaan Melvin (could slide up to 4 depending on the pick)

#6: Asa Jackson (could honestly take him or leave him)

 

Even if this scenario played out, Melvin AT LEAST deserves the #4 spot over an unproven rookie.

[52520Andrew]

I'm not talking about some 30+ year old guy. I'm looking more for a mid-late 20s guy in the mid tier price range.

I'm more than alright if Melvin comes into camp and wins a bigger role. I'm not a fan of handing guys roles and counting on them. We tried that this year and it didn't work at all. We need to add more guys there, both for next year and the more distant future.

We tried it with Gino last year at C as well...

[ravensnick]

I think that was his point - what cornerback can actually match up with Antonio Brown - he's made some good CBs look pretty pedestrian.  He had a good game when we had Jimmy early in the season, then absolutely destroyed us in the second game.  He played well in both his games against Joe Haden, played well against JJ, against pretty much every opponent this year.

He has always had Hadens number when ever they played.

[rmw10]

Right, but keep in mind that 1. Webb's final season very well may be in 2015... his cap number is quite big and there will be ample cap savings in 2016 to release him. and 2. there's no guarantee that a mid-round pick will be signed long-term either... it could be on a short term or even one year deal (sort of like the Brandon Flowers deal).

 

So, given that, you could be banking on Melvin to be a significant contributor sooner rather than later.

 

I never said I wouldn't bank of Melvin contributing.  I'd just rather he earn it over the course of the offseason rather than having the job handed to him.

[H8R]

He's played against Blake Bortles, Case keenum, and Connor Shaw. We shall fine his meddle this week.

Melvin played a very solid game... Did he not?

[rmw10]

Melvin played a very solid game... Did he not?

 

He played very well.  They even tasked him on Antonio Brown at times and he held his own.