Next up: Texans

[beanfigger]

That's great. QBs don't win football games though, teams do. The team that earned the first pick in the draft last season isn't the same team that won 7 games this season.

Ryan Fitzpatrick has a higher QB rating than Joe Flacco this season. He is capable of playing really well on any given Sunday, and he's proven that throughout his career. Is he consistently good? Of course not. However, I've never seen Keenum show me anything to make me believe he is capable of having a big game. Fitzpatrick at least has that threat, however thin you believe it to be.

[757RavensFan]

That's great. QBs don't win football games though, teams do. The team that earned the first pick in the draft last season isn't the same team that won 7 games this season.

 

I simply answered your question.   Keenum has NEVER won a NFL football game in 8 tries.  Of course opposing fans would want him to start regardless of the difference in talent between him and the other Houston QBs. 

[rmcjacket23]

Ryan Fitzpatrick has a higher QB rating than Joe Flacco this season. He is capable of playing really well on any given Sunday, and he's proven that throughout his career. Is he consistently good? Of course not. However, I've never seen Keenum show me anything to make me believe he is capable of having a big game. Fitzpatrick at least has that threat, however thin you believe it to be.

1. Nobody cares about QB rating, because nobody actually knows what QB rating means.

2. Keenum doesn't need to have a big game. We've lost to QBs this very season who didn't have big games. We've had what I consider to be Keenum-level QBs perform just fine against us.

[rmcjacket23]

I simply answered your question.   Keenum has NEVER won a NFL football game in 8 tries.  Of course opposing fans would want him to start regardless of the difference in talent between him and the other Houston QBs. 

I can honestly say I've never once compared two QBs and said I'd take one over the other based on how many games they've won. That just leads you down a road that only leads to disappointment.

 

I think Tom Savage is more talented than Keenum, and if I had my choice of QBs to play against, I'd choose Savage. When I'm looking at a QB, I try to look at what their strengths/weaknesses are vs what our weaknesses/strengths are. That very rarely includes how many football games he's won, because much of that is completely outside of his control.

[Nge2grads]

Ravens need to work hard for 60 minutes to get the job done.  It is great to see them as a wild card in the current playoff picture, and we don't want that opportunity to slip away.  Almost every game is a nail biter, and the amount of injuries this year is ridiculous with 16 on IR.  Just win, Baltimore!

[beanfigger]

1. Nobody cares about QB rating, because nobody actually knows what QB rating means.

2. Keenum doesn't need to have a big game. We've lost to QBs this very season who didn't have big games. We've had what I consider to be Keenum-level QBs perform just fine against us.

This is the real QB rating I'm talking about, and people do care about that. That's fine that you believe Keenum can play fine and have success against us, but I'd still prefer that to a QB who can go off for 3-4 TDs (or 6) and 350+ yards (again, "can", not "will"). He can do that and has, so that's a fact. Thinking Case can do that, as well, is fine, but that's just an opinion because he hasn't proven he can.

[rmcjacket23]

This is the real QB rating I'm talking about, and people do care about that. That's fine that you believe Keenum can play fine and have success against us, but I'd still prefer that to a QB who can go off for 3-4 TDs (or 6) and 350+ yards (again, "can", not "will"). He can do that and has, so that's a fact. Thinking Case can do that, as well, is fine, but that's just an opinion because he hasn't proven he can.

Who, specifically, cares about QB rating? We know for certain that coaches, players, and FO's certainly don't... the few times I remember coaches referencing a QB rating is when they were mocking the media for bringing it up.

 

I learned something very important in my first day of Stats 101 several years ago... if you don't know how a statistic is calculated (and nobody does with QB rating without looking up the ridiculous, long and meaningless formula that calculates it) and you have no idea what scale it is measured on (if I gave you a QB rating, you couldn't tell me if it was good or not), then its a meaningless statistic.

 

QBR is an equally ridiculous and irrelevant statistic based on several completely subjective measurements, but at the very least, it standardizes a rating between 0 and 100 and establishes an "average bar" for production. QB rating doesn't even remotely come close to doing that.

 

Whether or not somebody has or hasn't done that doesn't really matter to me, because there are literally dozens of things that happen on a weekly basis in this league that people said couldn't happen because they'd never happened before... and then they do happen. I know our secondary has made some below average QBs look pretty good and some really good QBs look great in this season alone.

 

The "downgrade" from Fitzpatrick to Keenum changes literally nothing about my perception of this game or what the Ravens need to do in order to win it.

[DomMcRaven]

I'd rather be playing against Keenum (0-8 in 8 starts last year) or Lewis (Who?) than Ryan Fitzpatrick.

If we can make JJ Watt a non-factor, we will win. A lot of running plays to the right off All-Pro

tackle Marshall Yanda and roll out right passes will keep him from sacking Joe. Kubiak's offense will

be the story in this game, not Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins, Arian Foster or JJ Watt. Ravens will win31-21 and earn a playoff spot.

I SURE hope so. But I'm very intrigued by what Kubiak's gameplan is going to be.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

No question neither is good.

 

My point is simply that there isn't a significant enough difference between the two for me to gain or lose any confidence in our ability to win the game.

 

I'm just a little confused why there's so much talk on here about how much better off we are to face Keenum than somebody like Fitzpatrick or even Savage.

Agreed. At this point in the season, I wouldn't care if they did a 'magical' trade for Brady or Manning. If we bring our 'A' Game those dudes go down just as easy as an unproven rookie. That's the point. With a QB that you're unfamiliar with (rookie or not) it is extremely more difficult to game plan their tendencies. imo - We will focus on bringing the best game that we have no matter who we face in these last games.

 

Straight-up Ravens D and ball control on offense wins this game. It's not about who they are, but who we are at this time in the season.

 

GO Ravens! Take care of business.

[Rodgers_To_Nelson]

Ravens should beat Houston. At least you guys will do better then my Pack did last Sunday.

[beanfigger]

Ravens should beat Houston. At least you guys will do better then my Pack did last Sunday.

Don't worry. Playing TB should be a nice remedy for GB's blues.

[gabefergy]

Ravens should beat Houston. At least you guys will do better then my Pack did last Sunday.

Man, that game was rough. My roommate is a huge Packers fan so he was watching it and going absolutely nuts. Should be a nice bounce back this week for ya.

[Ravenslifer]

Ravens should beat Houston. At least you guys will do better then my Pack did last Sunday.

 

I wouldn't worry too much about that game - the Bills have had a top 3 passing defense the last 2 years running.  They and Cleveland IMO have been in the running for "best worst team in the NFL" (if that makes any sense) for a few years now.  Both of those teams have 1 problem - they have no quarterback.  They pretty much have everything else.

[52N19]

the key for the ravens is no turnovers. make the texans earn it on a long filed. joe just needs to throw it away if there is nothing there and make a qb off the street beat them.

[Rodgers_To_Nelson]

I don't know. Rodgers is 1-2 against the Bucs all time. Wouldn't surprise me to see them blow it. I hope to be wrong. Ravens will have no problem winning in Houston. Although I was watching your score against Jacksonville and you were trailing at half. You won though and a W is a W. I was hoping I didn't jinx you guys by saying on here last week it was a gimme.

[I AM LEGEND]

Word is Thad Lewis still may start for them. That is scary because we don't fair well with QBs who scramble out the pocket a lot. One or two big plays with his feet and that could change the outlook of the game.

[theFRANCHISE]

The Ravens are historically good at beating the teams that they're supposed to beat.

 

Even with the Jaguars playing closer than most expected in a trap game, the end result was still a Ravens victory. The scoreboard doesn't care how points are put up.

 

So, this game against Houston may not be a cakewalk with the Texans fighting to salvage their season, but things should fall into place.

[I AM LEGEND]

The Ravens are historically good at beating the teams that they're supposed to beat.

 

Even with the Jaguars playing closer than most expected in a trap game, the end result was still a Ravens victory. The scoreboard doesn't care how points are put up.

 

So, this game against Houston may not be a cakewalk with the Texans fighting to salvage their season, but things should fall into place.

Texans are done.there is nothing to salvage which makes them even more dangerous. Much like the Jags, they'll probably push the envelop on some of the decisions they do. They have nothing to lose BUT build up excitement for next year. hopefully our coaching staff will be on their toes this week.

[HoldingCall]

Andre Johnson, 6'3", 230. Who do think will be assigned to cover him? Webb have gotten injured while attempting to cover big dudes. Here is where they miss Jimmy Smith.

[Static]

Word is Thad Lewis still may start for them. That is scary because we don't fair well with QBs who scramble out the pocket a lot. One or two big plays with his feet and that could change the outlook of the game.

 

That was before we had Mosley and Jernigan.

 

Those two can clean up a broken pocket very well. 

[ravensfan160]

Andre Johnson, 6'3", 230. Who do think will be assigned to cover him? Webb have gotten injured while attempting to cover big dudes. Here is where they miss Jimmy Smith.

At this point it doesn't really matter. Our defense is only as good as our pass rush at this point. If we run into a good offensive line it will be up to our offense to win a shootout. And the Texans have historically had a very good offensive line.

[rmcjacket23]

At this point it doesn't really matter. Our defense is only as good as our pass rush at this point. If we run into a good offensive line it will be up to our offense to win a shootout. And the Texans have historically had a very good offensive line.

Red zone defense and third downs... that's where the defense needs to hold up.

 

We have won games this season giving up a bunch of yardage and getting very little production from the pass rush.

[thisme007]

We will Win this game..Ravens 31,Texans 17..

[Torreysmithforthewin]

Would love to see Joe pull this move on watt!!

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[AsianRice]

Would love to see Joe pull this move on watt!!

http://gfycat.com/WellwornFoolhardyAnkole

hopefully not cuz I don't like to play with fire like letting Watt storming at Joe....

[redrum52]

Ravens should beat Houston. At least you guys will do better then my Pack did last Sunday.

If you all win out, don't you win the division?

[757RavensFan]

Per @Ravens, the Texans won't publically announce their starting QB until Sunday.

[gabefergy]

Andre Johnson, 6'3", 230. Who do think will be assigned to cover him? Webb have gotten injured while attempting to cover big dudes. Here is where they miss Jimmy Smith.

Cason or Melvin both match up well physically, although covering Johnson is a scary proposition. Webb did shut him down in the playoffs back in 2011.

[DomMcRaven]

Per @Ravens, the Texans won't publically announce their starting QB until Sunday.

Jerks. LOL!

[jimmypowder]

I heard they are gonna put JJ Watt at QB!