Next up: Texans

[harfordravenfan]

Also to point out, Jeremy Miles has played solid as well recently, along side Will Hill, you got solid Safety play. Sadly, when our safeties are good, cornerbacks are in trouble. Totally the opposite in the beginning of the season.

Makes me think what if we had Jimmy along side our current corps with a rust-free Webb....and Asa...This secondary wouldn't be too much of a problem....Welp, makes me very optimistic for next season.

For now, I just want playoffs and see what happens from there.

That's also how I look at it. Depending on who we end up keeping versus let walk next year... I'm very excited for next year. Biggest gear is losing kubs cause I think our offense continues to improve (amazed it's done so well 1st year with a new system)

[Bryden88]

containing JJ watt is the key to our offense and defense success. 

 

Fixed that for you.

[stampedehero]

Their D is good, but our OL is better.  And no way Johnny Manzel beats the Ravens.  No way.

 

 

BTW, anyone want to trade Joe Flacco for Jay Cutler?  

Cutler looked realy disconnected last night.  Da Bears got owned.  I want Manzel to taste Baltimore turf.   All Harbs has to do is show the Cincy vid for inspiration 

[stampedehero]

containing JJ watt is the key to our offense success. 

JJ Watt can be a key to their offensive success as well. 

[Edgar]

Play like we did against the Jags and the Texans will beat us silly even with a rookie QB! It all depends on how Flacco fares against Watt and company...

You're right. if we're facing even a decent quarterback last week say,Ryan Fitzpatrick we lose.

Our offense has got to be pretty close to perfect going forward in order for us to have a chance especially in the postseason.

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

Our key to success in the playoffs (if, if, if.....) will be to engage in and win shoot outs. We will have to maintain pace with the top tier Qb's in the league. Our pass rush will impact our post season success providing teams don't start to 2-3 step drop on us.

As far as the Houston Watts, we need to beat two men. JJ and Foster. Keep them contained and we should be solid. That and put 30+ on the board, we got a good chance.

Manziel, welcome to M&T. How you like your turf fed to you?

[757RavensFan]

Our key to success in the playoffs (if, if, if.....) will be to engage in and win shoot outs. We will have to maintain pace with the top tier Qb's in the league. Our pass rush will impact our post season success providing teams don't start to 2-3 step drop on us.

As far as the Houston Watts, we need to beat two men. JJ and Foster. Keep them contained and we should be solid. That and put 30+ on the board, we got a good chance.

Manziel, welcome to M&T. How you like your turf fed to you?

 

Is no one paying attention to what Deandre Hopkins is doing this year for the Texans?  1100+ receiving yards is nothing to overlook. 

[Drew P]

Is no one paying attention to what Deandre Hopkins is doing this year for the Texans?  1100+ receiving yards is nothing to overlook. 

 

They suck. First pick in the draft this year and the starting QB is going to be someone from the unemployment line...

[rmcjacket23]

They suck. First pick in the draft this year and the starting QB is going to be someone from the unemployment line...

Obviously a bit short-sighted.

 

There just aren't any "sucky" 7-7 teams in the NFL.

[ludy51]

Obviously a bit short-sighted.

 

There just aren't any "sucky" 7-7 teams in the NFL.

Jj watt is the only reason that they are 7-7.

[beanfigger]

Obviously a bit short-sighted.

There just aren't any "sucky" 7-7 teams in the NFL.

Colin Kaepernick just put that quote on a T-shirt.

Big game. Tough game. Good test for us. We just need to bring our best game, and we'll be hard to beat.

[HoldingCall]

Jj watt is the only reason that they are 7-7.

I understand your point, JJ Watt is a major reasons for them being 7-7, not the only reason. Ravens must have a game plan against the entire team with special emphasis on JJ Watt but also on the run game and Arian Foster. It also would be a mistake to ignore special teams or overlook the passing game. They are all paid professionals who intend to win this game.

[HoldingCall]

They suck. First pick in the draft this year and the starting QB is going to be someone from the unemployment line...

Injuries as we know (cb for us and qb for them) are unpredictable. I still expect a difficult game that cannot be taken lightly.

[rmcjacket23]

Jj watt is the only reason that they are 7-7.

Not really. Their ability to run the ball effectively against most teams, having quality players at the skill positions, and above average on both lines is why they are 7-7.

 

Otherwise, given their problems at QB and in the back half of their secondary, they'd be much, much, much worse.

[HoldingCall]

Last two games, the Bills have held Peyton Manning and Aaron Rodgers to 0 TD and 4 INTs, combined. Whoa, I'm sure glad they're not on our schedule this year. Give me the Texans any day before them.

I agree! Give us the Texans. The bills also started the demise of Bryan Hoyer a week before he was benched following the one point loss to the Colts. That's also the team we suffered 5 turnovers with last year.

[tolucaraven]

Not liking that Lewis will and or Keenum will be playing over rookie Savage.... Makes it tougher. Not a gimme by any means. 

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

Is no one paying attention to what Deandre Hopkins is doing this year for the Texans?  1100+ receiving yards is nothing to overlook.

More the fact that with Keenum throwing to him last year he had 800 yards and 2 TD. A solid WR3 or low WR2 result but not a major concern. With our secondary we can't overlook any passing threats, but with no chemistry and a 4th string QB we should be ok.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

I'd rather be playing against Keenum (0-8 in 8 starts last year) or Lewis (Who?) than Ryan Fitzpatrick.

If we can make JJ Watt a non-factor, we will win. A lot of running plays to the right off All-Pro

tackle Marshall Yanda and roll out right passes will keep him from sacking Joe. Kubiak's offense will

be the story in this game, not Andre Johnson, Deandre Hopkins, Arian Foster or JJ Watt. Ravens will win31-21 and earn a playoff spot.

[rmcjacket23]

More the fact that with Keenum throwing to him last year he had 800 yards and 2 TD. A solid WR3 or low WR2 result but not a major concern. With our secondary we can't overlook any passing threats, but with no chemistry and a 4th string QB we should be ok.

The idea being that there really isn't much if any gap in talent or production between Keenum and somebody like Fitzpatrick, who was throwing to Hopkins for most of the season.

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

The idea being that there really isn't much if any gap in talent or production between Keenum and somebody like Fitzpatrick, who was throwing to Hopkins for most of the season.

Stats don't support your statement.

Ryan Fitzpatrick 12 Games 2483 Yards 17 TD RTG 95.3

Case Keenum 8 Games 1760 Yards 9 TD RTG 78.2

I'll give the four games helping the yards for Fitzpatrick but the rating shows a superior QB. That and the fact that Fitz was still playing on a starting roster vs the practice squad for the Rams.

[rmcjacket23]

Stats don't support your statement.

Ryan Fitzpatrick 12 Games 2483 Yards 17 TD RTG 95.3

Case Keenum 8 Games 1760 Yards 9 TD RTG 78.2

I'll give the four games helping the yards for Fitzpatrick but the rating shows a superior QB. That and the fact that Fitz was still playing on a starting roster vs the practice squad for the Rams.

Actually, they kind of do.

 

If you average that out on a per game basis, it means that if Keenum had played 12 games, he'd have 2,640 yards (more yardage) and 13-14 TDs over that period.

 

So, a PS guy for the Rams can throw for more yardage in a similar game sample and come pretty close in TDs.

 

I believe that's sort of an indictment of the skill set of the alleged "starter" as it were. Probably a good indication of why he was benched for ineffectiveness to begin with, even on a team that was still theoretically playing for a playoff spot.

 

Plus, obviously, no realistic person uses QB rating or QBR as any sort of identifier of how good a QB is. Statistics 101... if you can't identify how a statistic is calculated, nor can you identify the scale it is on and determine what is considered good or bad, then its probably an irrelevant statistic to begin with.

[Drew P]

More the fact that with Keenum throwing to him last year he had 800 yards and 2 TD. A solid WR3 or low WR2 result but not a major concern. With our secondary we can't overlook any passing threats, but with no chemistry and a 4th string QB we should be ok.

 

Garbage stats they were awful last year and were behind pretty much the entire season

[rmcjacket23]

Garbage stats they were awful last year and were behind pretty much the entire season

Still only attempted about 30 passes a game, so not really garbage stats.

[Drew P]

Jj watt is the only reason that they are 7-7.

 

Parity in the league is the reason why they are 7-7.

 

They are just one of 3 of the teams in their division that are perennial bottom feeders vying for the top pick in the draft.

 

Foster is a heartless punk, Merciless is hurt, Graham is hurt, and they have the worst QB situation in football...

 

The Ravens got curb stomped the last time there...if they lose this time there are no excuses

[RavensFanMania]

I'm still afraid of JJ Watt. But I think we can win this.

Agree, he is a great player, but we can overcome him and should win the game.   28-10 Ravens

[757RavensFan]

I don't know how the Ravens defense ranks with the Colts, but they only allowed 3 pts to the Texans on Sunday. 

The Texans only TD was from a Luck pick 6. 

 

Colts only allowed 289 total yards:

- 152 passing yards.

- 137 rushing yards (99 by Foster).

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

Actually, they kind of do.

 

If you average that out on a per game basis, it means that if Keenum had played 12 games, he'd have 2,640 yards (more yardage) and 13-14 TDs over that period.

 

So, a PS guy for the Rams can throw for more yardage in a similar game sample and come pretty close in TDs.

 

I believe that's sort of an indictment of the skill set of the alleged "starter" as it were. Probably a good indication of why he was benched for ineffectiveness to begin with, even on a team that was still theoretically playing for a playoff spot.

 

Plus, obviously, no realistic person uses QB rating or QBR as any sort of identifier of how good a QB is. Statistics 101... if you can't identify how a statistic is calculated, nor can you identify the scale it is on and determine what is considered good or bad, then its probably an irrelevant statistic to begin with.

Funny, I get the feeling that neither one of us is a fan of either Keenum or Fitz but got into a convo on the two.

I agree that neither one of these two QBs is the next HOF inductee. I do think when you put the two side by side Fitz has been and is a better QB. Granted he has always been a lower tier QB. I think at the end of the day Fitz gives the Texans a slight margin of success that Keenum didn't provide. Either way, Texans won't be lifting the Lombardi with either QB at the helm.

Hope the Ravens show up this weekend and rack up 8 more sacks on Savage/Fitz/Keenum/Lewis or even the flipping water-boy if he decides to get under center!

[rmcjacket23]

Funny, I get the feeling that neither one of us is a fan of either Keenum or Fitz but got into a convo on the two.

I agree that neither one of these two QBs is the next HOF inductee. I do think when you put the two side by side Fitz has been and is a better QB. Granted he has always been a lower tier QB. I think at the end of the day Fitz gives the Texans a slight margin of success that Keenum didn't provide. Either way, Texans won't be lifting the Lombardi with either QB at the helm.

Hope the Ravens show up this weekend and rack up 8 more sacks on Savage/Fitz/Keenum/Lewis or even the flipping water-boy if he decides to get under center!

No question neither is good.

 

My point is simply that there isn't a significant enough difference between the two for me to gain or lose any confidence in our ability to win the game.

 

I'm just a little confused why there's so much talk on here about how much better off we are to face Keenum than somebody like Fitzpatrick or even Savage.

[757RavensFan]

No question neither is good.

 

My point is simply that there isn't a significant enough difference between the two for me to gain or lose any confidence in our ability to win the game.

 

I'm just a little confused why there's so much talk on here about how much better off we are to face Keenum than somebody like Fitzpatrick or even Savage.

 

Keenum in his 8 starts last season, 0-8.

Fitz in his 14 starts this season 7-7.

 

The simple fact that Keenum hasn't won a game as a Texan is probably a good reason why Ravens' fans prefer him.

[rmcjacket23]

Keenum in his 8 starts last season, 0-8.

Fitz in his 14 starts this season 7-7.

 

The simple fact that Keenum hasn't won a game as a Texan is probably a good reason why Ravens' fans prefer him.

That's great. QBs don't win football games though, teams do. The team that earned the first pick in the draft last season isn't the same team that won 7 games this season.