Merged: Kubiak Discussions

[Bltravens]

Curious...

if our owner really wants to keep him, could he try doing the same as he did for our assistant GM? Not sure if there are limits to salaries by position in coaching or not but if a pay raise would keep him... Show him the $

I'm wondering about that as well.  Steve B should pay him top tier money short of HC pay (like well short, but higher than a usual OC), Kubiak was on point tonight.

[ravensfan160]

If for nothing else I wanted us to beat the Steelers to keep pushing off when teams can interview Kubiak. The longer we play into January the better the chances are we keep Kubiak.

[allblackraven]

We just take his cell phone, lock him in a windowless room and have DeCosta lecture him on the benefits of remaining with the Ravens until he comes around.

 

Problem solved.

That's the attitude!

[RavensFanInCA]

NFL Insiders said Kubiak's not interviewing until we're out of the playoffs so he can properly focus on the task at hand.

[The Mom Gene]

I'm wondering about that as well.  Steve B should pay him top tier money short of HC pay (like well short, but higher than a usual OC), Kubiak was on point tonight.

 

Curious...

if our owner really wants to keep him, could he try doing the same as he did for our assistant GM? Not sure if there are limits to salaries by position in coaching or not but if a pay raise would keep him... Show him the $

 

Spags' title is "Secondary/Assistant Head Coach"....  I noticed that during the game the other night when they showed him, with his title under it.  I would wonder if Kubes' could be the same.'  Rather than just Offensive Coordinator.  Maybe they could attach something like that to his title.

[rmcjacket23]

NFL Insiders said Kubiak's not interviewing until we're out of the playoffs so he can properly focus on the task at hand.

I don't believe its allowed per NFL rules. I think you can only interview if you're team isn't playing that week.

 

Could be wrong about that though.

[The Mom Gene]

I don't believe its allowed per NFL rules. I think you can only interview if you're team isn't playing that week.

 

Could be wrong about that though.

I know the Seahawks and Bronco's coaches interviewed this past week.....  But they didn't play this week.

[rmcjacket23]

I know the Seahawks and Bronco's coaches interviewed this past week.....  But they didn't play this week.

Right... I know Quinn interviewed like 4-5 times this past week.

 

Not sure exactly if there's a rule or its just sort of an NFL widely-accepted unwritten policy.

[The Mom Gene]

Right... I know Quinn interviewed like 4-5 times this past week.

 

Not sure exactly if there's a rule or its just sort of an NFL widely-accepted unwritten policy.

Yeah so did Josh McDaniels.

[AsianRice]

Yeah so did Josh McDaniels.

Cuz as soon as he sees B-More coming to town, he needs to get his backup plan ready up.....

[beanfigger]

Right... I know Quinn interviewed like 4-5 times this past week.

Not sure exactly if there's a rule or its just sort of an NFL widely-accepted unwritten policy.

I don't know if it's a rule or not, but if it is then I don't see why Kubiak would've had to make a point to tell Harbaugh to inform those asking that he wasn't available. They've certainly asked for permission to interview him, regardless of the fact that we didn't have a week off.

[Footman DCXLV]

I'm pretty sure there's no rule saying you can't interview. It's more a combination of wanting to focus, and more importantly, I would think you don't have tons of time during a week of such important preparation. That's probably why the only exceptions so far were coaches on teams with a first-round bye. They're still in the playoffs, but had some extra time with the week off.

[Gtown Purple]

Its bad form to interview for another job while you are doing another. If we continue in the playoffs at least a few teams will hire. Lots of candidates. In my opinion the only job with a decent future is san fran. Everywhere else has major issues.

[RavensFanInCA]

Pep Hamilton interviewed with the Raiders last night. I'm glad Kubiak didn't add any distractions to the team.

[Inqui]

Cutler has succeeded in Kubiak's system under Mike Shanahan.  This does make sense, although I had predicted the Bears would land Shanahan.  It does look like the 9ers want Shanahan.  I guess he wouldn't have full  control like he did in Washington.

I hadn't actually thought of that, but you're not wrong at all. I was just thinking that they have Forte, a decent OL, some quality receivers and are in a spot to make one or two splash picks in the draft if they know what they're doing. To me, that would be a pretty sweet deal.

 

And if I'm the Bengals, I'd be looking to trade for Cutler (could probably get him for decent value) and make a move for Kubiak. As a fan I'd despise them even more for it, but I reckon that'd be a really strong play if they can pull that off. And again, it's the kind of thing that I think Kubiak himself might want to step into if he becomes a HC again.

[Footman DCXLV]

And if I'm the Bengals, I'd be looking to trade for Cutler (could probably get him for decent value) and make a move for Kubiak. As a fan I'd despise them even more for it, but I reckon that'd be a really strong play if they can pull that off. And again, it's the kind of thing that I think Kubiak himself might want to step into if he becomes a HC again.

 

Cincinnati dumping Dalton would be a mistake, in spite of his lack of playoff success. That was a snakebitten franchise that has now made the playoffs four years in a row. The standards might be different there than elsewhere, but the reality is they've had a lot of success with him. Marvin Lewis is the issue for that team, not the quarterback.

[callahan09]

Cincinnati dumping Dalton would be a mistake, in spite of his lack of playoff success. That was a snakebitten franchise that has now made the playoffs four years in a row. The standards might be different there than elsewhere, but the reality is they've had a lot of success with him. Marvin Lewis is the issue for that team, not the quarterback.

Personally, I beg to differ. Dalton is holding that team back severely in my opinion.

[Inqui]

Personally, I beg to differ. Dalton is holding that team back severely in my opinion.

Agreed, they could be doing a lot worse but their whole mentality with Dalton is to not lose. Even Hue Jackson's system, which I seem to respect a lot more than the fans on the Bengals forum, is all about limiting Dalton's mistakes and that won't win too many playoff games.

 

Cutler isn't a world beater either, but I think he's at least good enough to win with the right guys around him. And the Bengals are talented enough that I think they can pull it off with Kubiak/Shanahan's system. They already have a decent line, some quality RBs and we already know how stacked their receivers are, so I think it'd be a solid play for both the Bengals and Kubiak himself.

[Footman DCXLV]

Personally, I beg to differ. Dalton is holding that team back severely in my opinion.

 

 

Agreed, they could be doing a lot worse but their whole mentality with Dalton is to not lose. Even Hue Jackson's system, which I seem to respect a lot more than the fans on the Bengals forum, is all about limiting Dalton's mistakes and that won't win too many playoff games.

 

Dalton could be, and needs to be a lot better. But, I still put their major faults on coaching. I think that's generally the case when a team can hang with the best during the regular season (they didn't look great the second half of this year, but have some really impressive wins over the last three seasons) but continually lay eggs in the games that matter.

[Inqui]

Dalton could be, and needs to be a lot better. But, I still put their major faults on coaching. I think that's generally the case when a team can hang with the best during the regular season (they didn't look great the second half of this year, but have some really impressive wins over the last three seasons) but continually lay eggs in the games that matter.

I agree coaching's a problem too (all of Marvin's Bengals sides have combined for 10 points in the second half of postseason games), but I think they're both holding the team back in a big way and the suggestion I had would upgrade both weaknesses.

 

Not that they'll do it, mind. I can see their brass sticking with Dalton for at least next season, and Marvin for however much longer.

[baltimorefan328]

Do you guys think the fact that Kubiak sort of knows how the Ravens draft and knows that defense always comes first in this town would be a reason he would look to move on? I remember after the draft it was Harbuagh or someone after the first three picks were defense who turned to Kubiak and said something like "Welcome to Baltimore thats how Ozzie does things around here?"  

 

I wonder if Kubiak may feel restrained that his input into saying he needs an impact wide receiver or another big tight end to work with (not saying we need these just something Kubiak could say) doesnt really matter and Ozzie is still going to go defense first? I tend to think we usually go defense because thats been the BPA when we draft but I am curious as to whether that could affect whether Kubiak stays and continues to build his system here or wants more control to be able to draft offensive talent somewhere else. Its also true he hasnt worked with a quarterback of Flacco's talent in a long time so that could be a big incentive for him to stay here

[Bltravens]

Do you guys think the fact that Kubiak sort of knows how the Ravens draft and knows that defense always comes first in this town would be a reason he would look to move on? I remember after the draft it was Harbuagh or someone after the first three picks were defense who turned to Kubiak and said something like "Welcome to Baltimore thats how Ozzie does things around here?"  

 

I wonder if Kubiak may feel restrained that his input into saying he needs an impact wide receiver or another big tight end to work with (not saying we need these just something Kubiak could say) doesnt really matter and Ozzie is still going to go defense first? I tend to think we usually go defense because thats been the BPA when we draft but I am curious as to whether that could affect whether Kubiak stays and continues to build his system here or wants more control to be able to draft offensive talent somewhere else. Its also true he hasnt worked with a quarterback of Flacco's talent in a long time so that could be a big incentive for him to stay here

Highly doubt Kubiak won't be getting significant pieces this coming draft. Unless some stud edge rusher falls in our lap etc, think Ozzie knows he needs to get Joe some weapons. TE and WR both.

[ellicottraven]

The fact that the Jets seem to be moving towards Marrone, I think Kubiak stays put in Baltimore!

[Bmore#410]

hopefully we can keep him but most likely he will take a head coaching job so who would be a good fit?

[xxDarby]

Kyle Shannahan Maybe? But that's only if he doesn't become an HC somewhere. He did a really good job in Cleveland with a decent QB at best and an unfinished product with Manziel. Not to mention Gordon was gone for most of the year. The only problem I think he has is that he is pretty abrasive and stubborn   

[JO_75]

The fact that the Jets seem to be moving towards Marrone, I think Kubiak stays put in Baltimore!

 

Chicago is the one team I'd watch out for. I know they interviewed Todd Bowels on Thursday, but I did read they would have interest in Kubiak once we were out of the playoffs. So for our sake, we have to hope we win on Saturday and remain in the playoffs. Kubiak said he wouldn't go on any interviews as long as we are still playing. 

 

Plus I can't help but think back to what he said when he came here. He talked how he gets to teach again and doesn't have to worry about managing a team. I think at the very least he'll remain here for next season as well, either because he wants to keep teaching, or if we get close to the Super Bowl and we lose in the AFC Title Game or even lose Saturday. Kubiak may come back because it's "unfinished business" and wants to get a ring as OC before taking another Head Coaching job.

[SeaHawk]

Shanahan likes to get too cute with his plays at times.

[rmcjacket23]

hopefully we can keep him but most likely he will take a head coaching job so who would be a good fit?

I don't see him getting a HC gig.

[RaineV1]

On the chance that he leaves, there are some good pro-style offenses in college football. Maybe the Ravens could snag a good playcaller from a successful team like USC or LSU.

[Bryden88]

I think the deeper our playoff run, the better odds of keeping Kubs. If we make it to the SB, we'll keep him I think. Most of the vacancies will be filled by then.