Merged: Kubiak Discussions

[GrimCoconut]

Yeah it can happen. I wouldn't be surprised if he went to New York Jets as the head coach. It would be a challenge for sure and he'll have some high draft picks. He'll have a decent OL there and a decent RB corps with some talent at WR in a free agent class with a lot of talent at WR as well as a solid WR draft class. He could get his QB this year or it might take him a year to get one but he could turn it around with the right support.

[jazz1988]

I just find this news depressing. I wish someone would ask to interview Pees. *sigh*

 

He already said he not interested in being a head coach also he's in his 60's . Most teams like to go younger at the head coach position.

[PurpleCity5]

If Kub does indeed leave, which seems pretty possible, I'd say F.O should persue Marc Trestman, guy is a QB guru as well as Offensive coordinator, he was the OC for Oak and helped them obtain one of the top offenses including Rich Gannon getting the MVP award. He's also behind Josh McCrown spurt that nearly put the Bears into the playoffs which led McCrown to 13 TDs and 1INT, he was playing very well. 

 

 

FYI Cutler really isn't that great for anyone who's going to bring up his production, Bears are regretting giving him that contract. 

 

I think Trestman would be a great canidate, if he's there, I mean of course, if Kub leaves, which I hope doesn't happen. 

[GrimCoconut]

If Kub does indeed leave, which seems pretty possible, I'd say F.O should persue Marc Trestman, guy is a QB guru as well as Offensive coordinator, he was the OC for Oak and helped them obtain one of the top offenses including Rich Gannon getting the MVP award. He's also behind Josh McCrown spurt that nearly put the Bears into the playoffs which led McCrown to 13 TDs and 1INT, he was playing very well.

FYI Cutler really isn't that great for anyone who's going to bring up his production, Bears are regretting giving him that contract.

I think Trestman would be a great canidate, if he's there, I mean of course, if Kub leaves, which I hope doesn't happen.

I'd be down for that. I think Trestman had a bad roll in Chicago. He might be junk but I'd give him a shot

[52N19]

i have read that the bengals may consider hue jackson if they dump lewis. there is to much talent on the bengals to be an average team. kubiak would be a great fit for the bengals. dalton could be a good game manager and iwht their talent that is all the bengals need.

[PurpleCity5]

I'd be down for that. I think Trestman had a bad roll in Chicago. He might be junk but I'd give him a shot

I believe that as an OC, he's good, he's also great with QB's. I actually think Chicago was just a bad place, that defense is pretty awful. Also considering the train wreck that is the Chicago Media. I think Trestman was put in a bad place. Also considering how bad the GM was. 

[PurpleCity5]

Bears are also interested in Gary Kubiak, seems like he could be gone, I'm still waiting to see how things turn out, if he leaves, as I said before, Trestman would be a great option. 

[3-4ravdef509]

I just find this news depressing. I wish someone would ask to interview Pees. *sigh*

 

Who would be dumb enough to do that? LOL

 

Oh wait...I guess we were once.

[GrimCoconut]

I believe that as an OC, he's good, he's also great with QB's. I actually think Chicago was just a bad place, that defense is pretty awful. Also considering the train wreck that is the Chicago Media. I think Trestman was put in a bad place. Also considering how bad the GM was.

Yeah. If Kubiak leaves Trestman is my top candidate for this team. I might even be down for him regardless as Kubiak has been predictable to an extent. I would be happy with either Kubiak or Trestman.

[The Raven]

Yeah. If Kubiak leaves Trestman is my top candidate for this team. I might even be down for him regardless as Kubiak has been predictable to an extent. I would be happy with either Kubiak or Trestman.

 

I kinda like the idea of promoting from within. We hired a bunch of young coaches who now have a year in the system. At this point, system continuity is crucial. If Kubiak leaves, promote TE coach Brian Pariani to OC, assuming Dennison goes with Kubiak. Pariani was in Kubiak's system from 2006-2013, and if we promote him to OC, they can't take him from us. If not him, we still have Bobby Engram, Thomas Hammock, and maybe even Castillo or Todd Washington. I'd prefer not to promote those two though.

 

We have all these young coaches, and we fired old coaches to make room for them. That spells it out to me we want to keep this system.

 

Look at the best teams. They all promote from within. Every time one of our DCs leaves, we hire the next guy there. And you do see the benefits of that. Look at the Patriots and their recent coordinators. Past few offensive coordinators include Bill O'Brien, McDaniels, and Charlie Weis. All guys who were already on the coaching staff before being hired as OC. They were all from within. And as a result, the Patriots have run the same, great offense for almost 15 years.

 

I can't stress enough the importance of system continuity. Not to mention the rumors that Trestman is Captain Softy Pants.

[pitchblack_20]

I'd go exactly opposite from you. The longer we stay alive, the more time those teams have to interview/hire other people who aren't tied up in the playoffs.

This is what I had in mind. The longer were in the more I think he wants to stay.

[PurpleCity5]

I kinda like the idea of promoting from within. We hired a bunch of young coaches who now have a year in the system. At this point, system continuity is crucial. If Kubiak leaves, promote TE coach Brian Pariani to OC, assuming Dennison goes with Kubiak. Pariani was in Kubiak's system from 2006-2013, and if we promote him to OC, they can't take him from us. If not him, we still have Bobby Engram, Thomas Hammock, and maybe even Castillo or Todd Washington. I'd prefer not to promote those two though.

 

We have all these young coaches, and we fired old coaches to make room for them. That spells it out to me we want to keep this system.

 

Look at the best teams. They all promote from within. Every time one of our DCs leaves, we hire the next guy there. And you do see the benefits of that. Look at the Patriots and their recent coordinators. Past few offensive coordinators include Bill O'Brien, McDaniels, and Charlie Weis. All guys who were already on the coaching staff before being hired as OC. They were all from within. And as a result, the Patriots have run the same, great offense for almost 15 years.

 

I can't stress enough the importance of system continuity. Not to mention the rumors that Trestman is Captain Softy Pants.

I guess lol, we'll see what happens. Good point.

[GrimCoconut]

I kinda like the idea of promoting from within. We hired a bunch of young coaches who now have a year in the system. At this point, system continuity is crucial. If Kubiak leaves, promote TE coach Brian Pariani to OC, assuming Dennison goes with Kubiak. Pariani was in Kubiak's system from 2006-2013, and if we promote him to OC, they can't take him from us. If not him, we still have Bobby Engram, Thomas Hammock, and maybe even Castillo or Todd Washington. I'd prefer not to promote those two though.

We have all these young coaches, and we fired old coaches to make room for them. That spells it out to me we want to keep this system.

Look at the best teams. They all promote from within. Every time one of our DCs leaves, we hire the next guy there. And you do see the benefits of that. Look at the Patriots and their recent coordinators. Past few offensive coordinators include Bill O'Brien, McDaniels, and Charlie Weis. All guys who were already on the coaching staff before being hired as OC. They were all from within. And as a result, the Patriots have run the same, great offense for almost 15 years.

I can't stress enough the importance of system continuity. Not to mention the rumors that Trestman is Captain Softy Pants.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind then either. I have no idea how they would perform as coordinators. I'm just going off names I already know. They could be awesome coordinators though.

[beanfigger]

The best job that could have opened up just opened up, so now there is a bit more reason for concern. I still say we keep him if we go deep.

[52N19]

Bears are also interested in Gary Kubiak, seems like he could be gone, I'm still waiting to see how things turn out, if he leaves, as I said before, Trestman would be a great option.

cutler is a coach killer. hopefully kubiak see that.

[JO_75]

So Kubiak has reassured John that he won't interview with anyone as long our season is still alive.

 

 

“I said, ‘John if anybody wants to talk to me, just tell them no. I’m a busy man right now. I’ve got a lot to do,'” Kubiak said, via the team’s website. “I think it’s always flattering as a coach to be mentioned by any organization in football. But my total focus is on our football game, what we’re doing, and trying to enjoy what I’m doing right now.”

 

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/12/31/gary-kubiak-wont-interview-for-other-jobs-while-ravens-are-in-the-playoffs/

[The Mom Gene]

I think he stays... 

[Inqui]

I kinda like the idea of promoting from within. We hired a bunch of young coaches who now have a year in the system. At this point, system continuity is crucial. If Kubiak leaves, promote TE coach Brian Pariani to OC, assuming Dennison goes with Kubiak. Pariani was in Kubiak's system from 2006-2013, and if we promote him to OC, they can't take him from us. If not him, we still have Bobby Engram, Thomas Hammock, and maybe even Castillo or Todd Washington. I'd prefer not to promote those two though.

 

We have all these young coaches, and we fired old coaches to make room for them. That spells it out to me we want to keep this system.

 

Look at the best teams. They all promote from within. Every time one of our DCs leaves, we hire the next guy there. And you do see the benefits of that. Look at the Patriots and their recent coordinators. Past few offensive coordinators include Bill O'Brien, McDaniels, and Charlie Weis. All guys who were already on the coaching staff before being hired as OC. They were all from within. And as a result, the Patriots have run the same, great offense for almost 15 years.

 

I can't stress enough the importance of system continuity. Not to mention the rumors that Trestman is Captain Softy Pants.

Yeah, that'd mean in eight years Joe's dealt with Cam's Air Coryell, Gary Kubiak's WCO and Jim Caldwell's Whatever The Hell it is he Used. I'd sooner keep the continuity going than chuck in a fourth system.

 

And then knowing our luck, Brian Pariani would get promoted to HC the season after.

[Inqui]

As I see it, the Bears have the inside track for Kubiak. The other sides need too much work done, while I still think the Bears have a good enough platform to succeed.

[Tenacious Faulker]

I kinda like the idea of promoting from within. We hired a bunch of young coaches who now have a year in the system. At this point, system continuity is crucial. If Kubiak leaves, promote TE coach Brian Pariani to OC, assuming Dennison goes with Kubiak. Pariani was in Kubiak's system from 2006-2013, and if we promote him to OC, they can't take him from us. If not him, we still have Bobby Engram, Thomas Hammock, and maybe even Castillo or Todd Washington. I'd prefer not to promote those two though.

 

We have all these young coaches, and we fired old coaches to make room for them. That spells it out to me we want to keep this system.

 

Look at the best teams. They all promote from within. Every time one of our DCs leaves, we hire the next guy there. And you do see the benefits of that. Look at the Patriots and their recent coordinators. Past few offensive coordinators include Bill O'Brien, McDaniels, and Charlie Weis. All guys who were already on the coaching staff before being hired as OC. They were all from within. And as a result, the Patriots have run the same, great offense for almost 15 years.

 

I can't stress enough the importance of system continuity. Not to mention the rumors that Trestman is Captain Softy Pants.

^^^THIS^^^

If Kubs decides after the play-offs to leave I say try to keep Dennison or Pariani as the OC.  They know his system and we shouldn't make Joe learn 4th offense especially since this one is working for the team.  Give a fat paycheck to whichever of his cronies knows the system best and will give Joe just enough to run the damn thing himself.  

[RaineV1]

The problem is, just because someone has been with Kubiak for awhile doesn't mean they're a good OC. Maybe the tight end coach is just a good tight end coach and not a good at calling the plays.

[The Raven]

The problem is, just because someone has been with Kubiak for awhile doesn't mean they're a good OC. Maybe the tight end coach is just a good tight end coach and not a good at calling the plays.

 

Yes, that is true. However, I subscribe to the whole "next man up" philosophy. You have to trust that a relatively young coach like Pariani continues to develop, just like a player would. 

[RavensFanMania]

As I see it, the Bears have the inside track for Kubiak. The other sides need too much work done, while I still think the Bears have a good enough platform to succeed.

Cutler has succeeded in Kubiak's system under Mike Shanahan.  This does make sense, although I had predicted the Bears would land Shanahan.  It does look like the 9ers want Shanahan.  I guess he wouldn't have full  control like he did in Washington.

[RavensFanMania]

The problem is, just because someone has been with Kubiak for awhile doesn't mean they're a good OC. Maybe the tight end coach is just a good tight end coach and not a good at calling the plays.

Works the same way as HC.  Just because they are a good OC doesn't mean they can manage the team.

[rafahash]

The problem is, just because someone has been with Kubiak for awhile doesn't mean they're a good OC. Maybe the tight end coach is just a good tight end coach and not a good at calling the plays.

 

I agree.

 

Also, there's no way we can keep Dennison if Kubiak leaves. Kubes will take Dennison with him.

[ravensdfan]

We just take his cell phone, lock him in a windowless room and have DeCosta lecture him on the benefits of remaining with the Ravens until he comes around.

 

Problem solved.

[RavensFanMania]

I agree, If Kubiak leaves, Marc Trestman may be a good hire since he is from the WCO tree. He is closer to the Mike McCarthy WCO then the Shanahan/Kubiak/Andy Reid WCO meaning he relies more on the passing game.

[harfordravenfan]

Curious...

if our owner really wants to keep him, could he try doing the same as he did for our assistant GM? Not sure if there are limits to salaries by position in coaching or not but if a pay raise would keep him... Show him the $

[JO_75]

 

Adam Schefter

55 mins · 

There's why the Jets and Bears have asked permission to interview Ravens OC Gary Kubiak.

 

 

Hm.... about that. Looks like the Jets and Bears will have to wait a little bit longer to interview him. They can keep waiting but they'll be so far behind by the time the Super Bowl is over with.

[GrimCoconut]

I just don't know if Kubiak will leave. I really think he likes his role. It could happen. I'm not saying it won't. It's a 50/50 IMO. Only he knows the answer if he wants to return to managing or teaching.