Merged: Kubiak Discussions

[52N19]

good article about kubiac;

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Exploring-How-To-Keep-Gary-Kubiak-In-Baltimore-/7841492d-b800-46c4-b720-5529858242d2

 

the question is how many teams will be looking for coaches and what are the pros and cons.

 

Oakland - you would have to be nuts to take that job

Jets - there appears to be a GM problem that an experienced coach would not want to deal wiht.

Tennesse - Hisenhunt is a good coach, only been there one year and thier problems are personell not coaching.

Jacksonville - could be available but not a desireable place to go for an experienced coach.

Tampa - depsite their record they have talent and Lovey Smith will amke them a good team.

Washington - Gruden has only been there one year. he should be there next year but wiht little napoleon who knows.

Chicago - this could be a viable option if the coach is let go. there's talent and a decent organization

 

we may be able to keep kubiak by default. i don't think there will be many coaching spots open and even less that are attractive. an attractive opening was with KC when they fired romeo cranell. KC had 5-6 pro bowlers and they lost 11 games. that was the type of job an experienced guy like andy reid or kubiak would jump on.

Berad edit - Gary Kubiak turned down all the HC interviews he has lined up to stay with the Ravens - http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Gary-Kubiak-Staying-With-Ravens/b8264cc1-ddde-4616-b52e-41fb152c2ac8

[redrum52]

Maybe Kubiak realizes he likes being an Oc and stays here til he retires...

[Drew P]

good article about kubiac;

 

http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Eisenberg-Exploring-How-To-Keep-Gary-Kubiak-In-Baltimore-/7841492d-b800-46c4-b720-5529858242d2

 

the question is how many teams will be looking for coaches and what are the pros and cons.

 

Oakland - you would have to be nuts to take that job

Jets - there appears to be a GM problem that an experienced coach would not want to deal wiht.

Tennesse - Hisenhunt is a good coach, only been there one year and thier problems are personell not coaching.

Jacksonville - could be available but not a desireable place to go for an experienced coach.

Tampa - depsite their record they have talent and Lovey Smith will amke them a good team.

Washington - Gruden has only been there one year. he should be there next year but wiht little napoleon who knows.

Chicago - this could be a viable option if the coach is let go. there's talent and a decent organization

 

we may be able to keep kubiak by default. i don't think there will be many coaching spots open and even less that are attractive. an attractive opening was with KC when they fired romeo cranell. KC had 5-6 pro bowlers and they lost 11 games. that was the type of job an experienced guy like andy reid or kubiak would jump on.

 

What has changed in one year removed as a HC? Not much, just saying he didnt get any looks last year his playoff record at Houston wasnt stellar and he has never beaten the Colts at Indy

[redrum52]

What has changed in one year removed as a HC? Not much, just saying he didnt get any looks last year his playoff record at Houston wasnt stellar and he has never beaten the Colts at Indy

So we couldn't beat the Colts in indy before and now he's been added to the roster. Hmmm. I think I know which team I don't wanna see in the okayoffa

[gabefergy]

I could see Kubiak leaving for Chicago, but I think he stays one more year. I hope.

[Alexir]

Turning our offensive line from the worst to one of the best by only changing 2 positions on the line is quiet impressive. Our running game is one of the leagues best, Flacco is playing like a top 10 QB, top 10 in 3rd down conversion (up from 24) and points scored a game is 7th (up from 25).

 

He gone.

[ravensfan160]

Normally I would say there is a 0% chance he stays. Considering his medical problems last year in Houston though I think the chances he stays goes up to about 1.5%.

 

You don't get to this level of coaching by being complacent. Every assistant coach in the NFL (except for LaBeau in Pittsburgh those lucky Squealers) are constantly looking for the next challenge. The fact that Kubiak didn't take the year off that many people thought he would makes me even more convinced he will jump at the first head coaching job he can get.

[AsianRice]

He's going to be like Dick Lebeau.....

[gabefergy]

Turning our offensive line from the worst to one of the best by only changing 2 positions on the line is quiet impressive. Our running game is one of the leagues best, Flacco is playing like a top 10 QB, top 10 in 3rd down conversion (up from 24) and points scored a game is 7th (up from 25).

 

He gone.

Also KO and Yanda being healthy are major factors in the OL turning it around. Combine that with how bad the two players who left were in 2013 and I think personnel is more of a reason than coaching for the offensive line turning it around. Kubiak has obviously helped with installing his running scheme, but we used a zone running scheme in 2013 too and everyone hated it. Maybe Kubiak does it better, but it's not rocket science.

 

He will definitely be an attractive HC option, and if he wants to go be a HC I'll bet he can find a job. I don't think he would take just any HC gig though. A lot of the teams that might need a new HC are really terrible teams without much promise in the near future. Chicago may the one potential playoff caliber team available.

[RaineV1]

I think it depends on what Kubiak himself wants. As far as coaching gigs go, the OC of the Ravens is a low stress one. He knows his style works with the players they have, they're a perennial championship contender, and they have their franchise quarterback. I know a lot of coaches like going for the next big challenge, but he could pull a Dick Lebeau and realize he's in the perfect spot for him and stay there.

[52520Andrew]

I just hope we can keep him for another year, don't think we can but you never know

[Gordo52]

Regardless of what happens I hope we keep this system intact. Offense has thrived despite losing its main focal point in Pitta early on.

Would Dennison upgrade or follow Kubes is the question.

[Inqui]

I think we've been fortunate to have him this year, but I think we all knew it won't last forever. I could see him looking to go to Chicago or maybe Atlanta or Washington. Once those guys have hired their new coaches I'll feel more comfortable about hanging onto him for another year. Hell, even the Steelers might not be completely out of the question.

It's all yet another reason we want to make the playoffs. Add another week or two to our season and let these other sides try to find a guy.

If I had to guess, I think we'll get one more year out of him. But anything beyond this season should be considered a bonus.

[ravensfan160]

Maybe no head coaches will be fired and he's forced to stay put.  

[The Raven]

I have this odd feeling he's gonna stay a while. He, like everyone else in the NFL, wants to win a Super Bowl. Why leave to a rebuilding team when we're close to being SB caliber?

 

And if does leave, we'll have Dennison, who has been in the offense forever. And if we lose Dennison, I'd bet tight end coach Brian Pariani gets the OC job. I doubt we'd have let go of our longtime tight end coach Wade Harman for just anybody. I guarantee Pariani is part of our long term plans. And if not him, Engram, Hammock, (maybe) Castillo, or even assistant OL coach Todd Washington.

 

We have a lot of young coaches here who can keep this system here and make sure it stays for a long time. I'd bet that Pariani gets OC next, but Engram, Hammock, and Washington will all have a chance to have it later.

[beanfigger]

If we go on a playoff run and other teams hire their new coaches before he's avaiable to interview... That's our best chance. I feel as though we get another year with him anyway, though. Probably just my hope taking over my brain.

[ravensfan160]

I have this odd feeling he's gonna stay a while. He, like everyone else in the NFL, wants to win a Super Bowl. Why leave to a rebuilding team when we're close to being SB caliber?

 

And if does leave, we'll have Dennison, who has been in the offense forever. And if we lose Dennison, I'd bet tight end coach Brian Pariani gets the OC job. I doubt we'd have let go of our longtime tight end coach Wade Harman for just anybody. I guarantee Pariani is part of our long term plans. And if not him, Engram, Hammock, (maybe) Castillo, or even assistant OL coach Todd Washington.

 

We have a lot of young coaches here who can keep this system here and make sure it stays for a long time. I'd bet that Pariani gets OC next, but Engram, Hammock, and Washington will all have a chance to have it later.

I don't think so. Those guys seem to be a combo. Wherever Kubiak goes Dennison will follow. And it's not like we can even offer Dennison a higher level position. He would be out OC here same as he would be wherever Kubiak goes.

[The Raven]

I don't think so. Those guys seem to be a combo. Wherever Kubiak goes Dennison will follow. And it's not like we can even offer Dennison a higher level position. He would be out OC here same as he would be wherever Kubiak goes.

 

Well, that's why I said one of the position coaches would make a good fit, too.

[Dubs]

I would add the Giants to the list.

 

Of all the teams with possible new HC I would be wary of Giants and Atlanta..

 

If Chicago, Rams, or Panthers get new HC's they seem like good fits too--dont see any getting fired though

[ravensfan160]

Well, that's why I said one of the position coaches would make a good fit, too.

I thought there was at least one more coach Kubiak brought with him from Houston but I can't remember. That's the worst part of potentially losing him. Our offensive coaching staff might get gutted.

[The Raven]

I thought there was at least one more coach Kubiak brought with him from Houston but I can't remember. That's the worst part of potentially losing him. Our offensive coaching staff might get gutted.

 

Yes, Brian Pariani. Who I mentioned. He'd be getting a promotion, though, to be OC. I sure hope he doesn't take everyone else though.

[Drew P]

Turning our offensive line from the worst to one of the best by only changing 2 positions on the line is quiet impressive. Our running game is one of the leagues best, Flacco is playing like a top 10 QB, top 10 in 3rd down conversion (up from 24) and points scored a game is 7th (up from 25).

 

He gone.

He was certainly a factor but not the only one

[JoeyFlex5]

What has changed in one year removed as a HC? Not much, just saying he didnt get any looks last year his playoff record at Houston wasnt stellar and he has never beaten the Colts at Indy

jim caldwell lost his qb, went 2-14 or something like that the following year, got a job as a qb coach, got promoted to OC by default, won the super bowl but was nothing special as an OC because he was incredibly predictable and vanilla, got a HC job after calling one of the worst offenses in the nfl last season. 

 

teams desperate for a coaching change look at applicants in strange ways.

[Ravenseconbeast]

You are pretty much right. I dont see any option out there that would realistically keep kubiak more than one season.

He has never been a HC that knew how to turn the franchise around. Took him a long time to finally make Texans into playoffs and the owner Mcnair invested a lot of patience and great gm to help kubiak.

He'd have to be twice as young and come up with a new trick as HC to prove he is a changed HC from Texans days.

[Tank 92]

I have a feeling Steve does what he has to do to keep Kubes around for a while.  

[Inqui]

I have a feeling Steve does what he has to do to keep Kubes around for a while.  

Not much he can do in the face of the right offer from another team - short of booting John Harbaugh to make Kubiak the HC himself.

[gabefergy]

Brace yourselves for the Juan Castillo as OC era.

[Inqui]

Brace yourselves for the Juan Castillo as OC era.

John Harbaugh hiring his Harbuddies for big roles. His track record for nepotism will set our team back 50 years.

 

 

 

 

 

(Will be what fills an entire thread if his name is mentioned as an OC candidate)

[jazz1988]

John Harbaugh hiring his Harbuddies for big roles. His track record for nepotism will set our team back 50 years.

 

 

 

 

 

(Will be what fills an entire thread if his name is mentioned as an OC candidate)

 

Well atleast he has been expose to some pretty good offensive system like the one we run now and the one Andy Reid was running as a Eagle. 

[frozen joe flacco fan]

IMO there is no chance he will stay next year when we make the playoffs but hope springs eternal and I hope I'm wrong.