Draft since 2010

[blazeon32]

I just went back and looked at Ozzie Newsome's picks in the draft since 2010. It is horrible. Here goes the list.

 

2010

Kindle-bust

Cody-bust

Dickson-bust

Pitta- injured, likely career over

D Reed- bust

Arthur Jones- isn't he gone now

Harewood-who (?)

 

2011

J Smith- good, not great yet

T Smith- good, not true #1

Jah Reid- bust

T. Doss-bust

Chykie Brown- bust and gone

B. Mcphee- starter 

Tyrod Taylor- backup QB not good

A. Allen-who (?)

 

2012

Upshaw- starter, good

Osemele- starter, good

B Pierce- looking like a bust

Gradkowski- bust

Thompson- who (?)

T. Streeter- bust now gone

Tyson- who(?)

 

2013

Elam -bust

A Brown- not playing so bust

B. Willliams-not playing so bust

Simon-who (?)

Juszczyk- starter

Wagoner- starter

Moore- who (?)

Jensen- who(?)

Mellete- no longer with team so bust

Anthony- no longer with team so bust

 

2014

CJ Mosley- starter and good and might be great, still unknown

Jernigen- backup

Brooks- not playing so backup

Gilmore- backup but not really playing yet

Urban- injured

Taliaferro- backup

Urschel- not playing so backup

Wenning- gone so bust

Campanarro- injured

 

Looking at these drafts since 2010. Ozzie Newsome has failed more then he's been on, and the team has suffered for it. I used question marks for players I don't even recognized, so they should be considered failures as well if they haven't played a single snap.

 

Thoughts anyone?

 

 

 

[berad]

Don't know who Brandon Williams, DeAngelo Tyson, Ramon Harewood are? They've all started for us and played well at times. Williams isn't backing anyone up and is playing VERY well.

 

It's kind of dismissive to a lot of quality players. Some have been poor, sure, but that's the draft and NFL in general. We could include UDFAs and it'd look better.

[redrum52]

I just went back and looked at Ozzie Newsome's picks in the draft since 2010. It is horrible. Here goes the list.

2010

Kindle-bust

Cody-bust

Dickson-bust

Pitta- injured, likely career over

D Reed- bust

Arthur Jones- isn't he gone now

Harewood-who (?)

2011

J Smith- good, not great yet

T Smith- good, not true #1

Jah Reid- bust

T. Doss-bust

Chykie Brown- bust and gone

B. Mcphee- starter

Tyrod Taylor- backup QB not good

A. Allen-who (?)

2012

Upshaw- starter, good

Osemele- starter, good

B Pierce- looking like a bust

Gradkowski- bust

Thompson- who (?)

T. Streeter- bust now gone

Tyson- who(?)

2013

Elam -bust

A Brown- not playing so bust

B. Willliams-not playing so bust

Simon-who (?)

Juszczyk- starter

Wagoner- starter

Moore- who (?)

Jensen- who(?)

Mellete- no longer with team so bust

Anthony- no longer with team so bust

2014

CJ Mosley- starter and good and might be great, still unknown

Jernigen- backup

Brooks- not playing so backup

Gilmore- backup but not really playing yet

Urban- injured

Taliaferro- backup

Urschel- not playing so backup

Wenning- gone so bust

Campanarro- injured

Looking at these drafts since 2010. Ozzie Newsome has failed more then he's been on, and the team has suffered for it. I used question marks for players I don't even recognized, so they should be considered failures as well if they haven't played a single snap.

Thoughts anyone?

Really? Jimmy Smith is just some average scrub then I guess. No coincidence our secondary goes straight to hell the s3c9nd he goes down I guess. Tyson is actually pretty good depth on the defensive line by the way and I'm pretty sure Brandon WillIams is a starter on the d line. You should know who the gym are be free you go labeling them. You look ignorant. I do agree somewhat though that we could have picked better in cerain spots, but if you look at the 09 and 13 drafts, I don't think there was much talent in those.

[rmw10]

You lost all credibility when you had to question who some of these guys are, let alone get a few of their roles incorrect.

[arnie_uk]

You lost all credibility when you had to question who some of these guys are, let alone get a few of their roles incorrect.

i agree with this but it's hard to argue with his overall premise. Our drafting hadn't been to hot lately, but then for a proper analysis you'd have to compare it to every team.

I do feel 2010 and now 2013 could really hurt us. If elam and brown worked out, now with mosley, and Jimmy outside, will hill and fs, we would have a stellar defense.

[rmw10]

i agree with this but it's hard to argue with his overall premise. Our drafting hadn't been to hot lately, but then for a proper analysis you'd have to compare it to every team.

I do feel 2010 and now 2013 could really hurt us. If elam and brown worked out, now with mosley, and Jimmy outside, will hill and fs, we would have a stellar defense.

 

Yeah I mean, I get the point.  I just thought it was an overall poor effort.  The 2014 draft class looks pretty good if you look at the overall talent, though.

[codizzle]

If you don't know who brandon williams is and what he's done for the defense this year, then I don't have time to discuss anything with you

[K-Dog]

If you don't know who brandon williams is and what he's done for the defense this year, then I don't have time to discuss anything with you

Yeah!

Me either!

[The Raven]

If you get two or three quality players/starters in a draft, you're doing it right. We are making that mark. You simply don't hit on every pick. Nobody does. We hit the 2-3 player mark in each of those drafts. This thread is both ridiculous and ignorant.

[allblackraven]

Lol, what?

[BMORE_96]

I just went back and looked at Ozzie Newsome's picks in the draft since 2010. It is horrible. Here goes the list.

 

2010

Kindle-bust

Cody-bust

Dickson-bust

Pitta- injured, likely career over

D Reed- bust

Arthur Jones- isn't he gone now

Harewood-who (?)

 

2011

J Smith- good, not great yet

T Smith- good, not true #1

Jah Reid- bust

T. Doss-bust

Chykie Brown- bust and gone

B. Mcphee- starter 

Tyrod Taylor- backup QB not good

A. Allen-who (?)

 

2012

Upshaw- starter, good

Osemele- starter, good

B Pierce- looking like a bust

Gradkowski- bust

Thompson- who (?)

T. Streeter- bust now gone

Tyson- who(?)

 

2013

Elam -bust

A Brown- not playing so bust

B. Willliams-not playing so bust

Simon-who (?)

Juszczyk- starter

Wagoner- starter

Moore- who (?)

Jensen- who(?)

Mellete- no longer with team so bust

Anthony- no longer with team so bust

 

2014

CJ Mosley- starter and good and might be great, still unknown

Jernigen- backup

Brooks- not playing so backup

Gilmore- backup but not really playing yet

Urban- injured

Taliaferro- backup

Urschel- not playing so backup

Wenning- gone so bust

Campanarro- injured

 

Looking at these drafts since 2010. Ozzie Newsome has failed more then he's been on, and the team has suffered for it. I used question marks for players I don't even recognized, so they should be considered failures as well if they haven't played a single snap.

 

Thoughts anyone?

Dude, a lot of teams have trouble getting at least 1 impact player in a draft. we've gotten at least 3 in every draft since 2011. And tbh, the jury is still out on elam and especially brown.  The only draft we completely whiffed( and i mean completely) was 2010. We picked the wrong Tight ends(missed gronk and graham but so did other teams), cody was a bust, and kindle was bad luck. Plus, your analysis is flawed. I'd call any player that helped us a success in context of draft positon. And in my opinion, i would not hold ozzie accountable for missing(if you can even call it that) on a 7th round guy. Plus,you dont even bring up undrafted players who have helped us: Bynes, Tucker, Brown,Hurst. The metric you are evaluating ozzie by is undeveloped and so is whatever argument you are trying to put forth.

 

I will say this though. The only pick that has me scratching my head is the elam one. But its not like he was meant to be a slot cb anyway. i was given the impression by the FO he was a polamalu-type player. he seems so far from that. That pick is by far the biggest bust in the harbs era so far. I still have hope,however.

[RaineV1]

If you get two or three quality players/starters in a draft, you're doing it right. We are making that mark. You simply don't hit on every pick. Nobody does. We hit the 2-3 player mark in each of those drafts. This thread is both ridiculous and ignorant.

I agree with this. Whenever people talk about the draft you need to keep in mind that the odds are stacked against you. Out of the 177 or so players picked, maybe 20 will be starters for reliable backups. And that's in a good year. There have been drafts where only five or six guys actually made a career for themselves in the NFL. If you manage to succeed with just 1/3 of your picks, you're are beating the odds and out doing damn near every other team in the league.

[ratedr]

Your overall premise is true honestly, though it's a bit embarrassing that you didn't know who Brandon Williams is. Or DeAngelo Tyson.

 

And look at all those defensive players. Geez.

[Inqui]

If you get two or three quality players/starters in a draft, you're doing it right. We are making that mark. You simply don't hit on every pick. Nobody does. We hit the 2-3 player mark in each of those drafts. This thread is both ridiculous and ignorant.

How many did we get this year? Four or five off the top of my head, and that's before you give guys like Urban and Wenning a year or two to prove they're worth something.

 

Looking at all the angry responses in this thread, I think everyone here has been trolled (and the OP did a very good job of it too).

[Willbacker]

It takes 3 years to analyze a draft anyways but the 2010 draft was bad. The 2011 and 2012 draft were good  but not great.

[Ravenskid52752]

lmao! this article is just ignorant

[RavensPunkXVX]

This post made me realize one thing.

I dont know the team as well as I thought I did!

What position does Wagoner start?!

[Ravenseconbeast]

*smh*

 

don't know who brandon william or tyson is :<

[Inqui]

This post made me realize one thing.

I dont know the team as well as I thought I did!

What position does Wagoner start?!

He helps keep the wheels moving.

[Alaska Alaska!]

I just went back and looked at Ozzie Newsome's picks in the draft since 2010. It is horrible. Here goes the list.

 

2010

Kindle-bust

Cody-bust

Dickson-bust

Pitta- injured, likely career over

D Reed- bust

Arthur Jones- isn't he gone now

Harewood-who (?)

 

2011

J Smith- good, not great yet

T Smith- good, not true #1

Jah Reid- bust

T. Doss-bust

Chykie Brown- bust and gone

B. Mcphee- starter 

Tyrod Taylor- backup QB not good

A. Allen-who (?)

 

2012

Upshaw- starter, good

Osemele- starter, good

B Pierce- looking like a bust

Gradkowski- bust

Thompson- who (?)

T. Streeter- bust now gone

Tyson- who(?)

 

2013

Elam -bust

A Brown- not playing so bust

B. Willliams-not playing so bust

Simon-who (?)

 

Did you really just post that Brandon Williams isn't playing?  After I read that I didn't even bother reading the rest 

[Dr. Kelley]

Did you really just post that Brandon Williams isn't playing? After I read that I didn't even bother reading the rest

Ha, for real. He's playing great on top of it, so its not like his name hasn't come up

[rmcjacket23]

If you can get 2 quality starters in any single NFL draft, you've had a great draft.

[1/28/01]

Ignorance abound.

[Maryland]

Honestly, I'll never understand how someone can look at guys like Kindle and Pitta as a knock against Ozzie's drafting success. Literally any prospect could have a career-ending injury, whether it be before they play a snap in the NFL, or right after their big contract. It's not something you can anticipate, and it could happen to literally any player you draft. 

 

Of course, given his uninformed analysis, I'd say he's either a fan of another team looking to prove a point and/or a troll, so I don't give the OP's comments much value, but Ozzie has missed on some early picks. The first 3 picks of 2010 hurt, and Elam hurt, but for the 2012 draft, I'll say he was picking last in a very weak draft class. Hindsight is 20/20

[GrimCoconut]

Bruh, do you even watch Ravens football, bruh?

[Sami84]

I just went back and looked at Ozzie Newsome's picks in the draft since 2010. It is horrible. Here goes the list.

I made a few amendments

2010

Kindle-bust

Cody-bust

Dickson-bust

Pitta- injured, likely career over

D Reed- bust

Arthur Jones- isn't he gone now

Harewood-who (?)

2011

J Smith- very good

T Smith- good, number 2 type reciever

Jah Reid- bust

T. Doss-bust

Chykie Brown- bust and gone

B. Mcphee- starter

Tyrod Taylor- backup QB not good

A. Allen-who (?)

2012

Upshaw- starter, solid

Osemele- starter, very good

B Pierce- looking like a bust

Gradkowski- bust

Thompson- who (?)

T. Streeter- bust now gone

Tyson- who(?)

2013

Elam -bust..and a bad one at that

A Brown- not playing so bust

B. Willliams- a very good run stuffer..i personally feel we need more pass rush in this position but hey..hes a good player..not great but good.

Simon- bust and gone

Juszczyk- starter

Wagner- awesome pick..

Moore- who (?)

Jensen- who(?)

Mellete- no longer with team so bust

Anthony- no longer with team so bust

2014

CJ Mosley- starter and aside from coverage ..an awesome 3 down linebacker.

Jernigen- good when playing

Brooks- not playing so backup

Gilmore- backup but not really playing yet

Urban- injured

Taliaferro- backup

Urschel- not playing much but showed potential

Wenning- gone so bust

Campanarro- injured but showed potential when playing

[RaineV1]

Why do people like to classify fifth, sixth, and seventh round picks as busts? If you're honestly looking for long term starters in the seventh round, you screwed up. Badly. Also, Wenning is not gone. He's on the practice squad and has a solid chance of being the backup quarterback next season.

[codizzle]

Still wrong on brandon williams

Crockett and brooks are definitely playing...

[flynismo]

Do you even watch our games? Wow.

 

But yes, our drafts the last few years as a whole hasn't been stellar, to say the least.

[rmw10]

Ignoring the intel from the OP and just looking at the names and making my own judgments, I think the most alarming thing is the success rate of the early picks.  I think we're doing well to find contributors and even some starters from the later rounds, but the early rounds are kind of scary.  Aside from Jimmy, Torrey, and maybe KO, we haven't really drafted any impact players early.  We have some quality players there for sure but we're finding similar players or slightly worse players in the later rounds.  The lack of impact players is starting to catch up to us.  Hopefully the Mosley pick starts to right that ship.