What do you think Forsett is worth?

[Tank 92]

He's getting $700k this year as a career backup.  IMO, anything less than $2M a year would be an insult considering his performance so far.   

 

 

I'd give him a Steve Smith type deal. 3-4 years 8 million, but he can be cut after two with little to penalty. First two years are guaranteed money. After that its a flat salary with escalators. He gets security for two years, and he has the potential to make this a long term deal.

 

Dude is well deserving of a pay day and there's no reason, at this point, not give him a deal as described here. He's got low mileage and has shown remarkable consistency way above expectations.   

[Mt. Crushmore]

Because Forsett signed to a minimum salary benefit contract this year, the Ravens can't sign him to a contract extension until free agency starts.  Read this article below:

 

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer/jason-la-canfora/24851280/justin-forsetts-deal-prevents-ravens-from-re-signing-him-until-free-agency

[redlobster]

I'd avoid signing him all together tbh, if we had a chance at one of the top RB's in this class. Don't get me wrong, I love what Forsett is doing for us and should continue to do. However we have a great running scheme and I feel a top young RB could be very exciting here.

Front office should not even consider drafting a running back high if a quality 1st round cb talent is available .

[JO_75]

4 Million average a year is what I spend. Yeah the cap is supposed to go up to 141M but don't want to give him too much. Especially since the RB class is a good one to take advantage of in the draft.

So maybe 4 year $16M with 8M guaranteed or something.

[Inqui]

4 Million average a year is what I spend. Yeah the cap is supposed to go up to 141M but don't want to give him too much. Especially since the RB class is a good one to take advantage of in the draft.

So maybe 4 year $16M with 8M guaranteed or something.

I wouldn't give him a four-year deal tbh. There's a lot he's done himself, but his productivity is more about being a nice fit for an effective system and there's no guarantee that continues when Kubiak leaves.

 

 

Front office should not even consider drafting a running back high if a quality 1st round cb talent is available .

Looking at next year's class, I think there will be an array of quality starters in the third round and even as far as the fifth. It's going to be something special.

[Static]

The think about Forsett is that even though he's older, he isn't a powerback and doesn't have too many miles on him.  He'll keep his speed about him for a while.

[gabefergy]

4 Million average a year is what I spend. Yeah the cap is supposed to go up to 141M but don't want to give him too much. Especially since the RB class is a good one to take advantage of in the draft.

So maybe 4 year $16M with 8M guaranteed or something.

Way way too much. 4 years is forever for a RB, especially when he is 29 years old, and 4 million per year is a lot.

I think 2 years, 5-6 million max. Maybe 1.5 guaranteed.

[jazz1988]

I'd avoid signing him all together tbh, if we had a chance at one of the top RB's in this class. Don't get me wrong, I love what Forsett is doing for us and should continue to do. However we have a great running scheme and I feel a top young RB could be very exciting here. 

 

I don't know alot about  next years  running back class but Forsett brings more than just good running but he also is a really good pass blocker, he has good vision and patience which is important for Gary Kubiak zone blocking scheme, and he's a solid receiver. I have no clue what other running back in next year draft class provide such things but I think it would be wise to keep Forsett around  and he can always be a solid third down back.

[TDubbs]

I don't know alot about  next years  running back class but Forsett brings more than just good running but he also is a really good pass blocker, he has good vision and patience which is important for Gary Kubiak zone blocking scheme, and he's a solid receiver. I have no clue what other running back in next year draft class provide such things but I think it would be wise to keep Forsett around  and he can always be a solid third down back.

 

Sure, Forsett definitely has value and is an all around solid back. I just feel with his season he may have played himself out of our price range. I'd give him a 1 year deal worth 2m tops, sounds harsh but its reality. I'd love for him to prove me wrong, but I don't see the same production happening moving forward. 

[flynismo]

My guess is two years with an option for a third year, with $3.5M per year base salary

[Inqui]

I don't know alot about next years running back class but Forsett brings more than just good running but he also is a really good pass blocker, he has good vision and patience which is important for Gary Kubiak zone blocking scheme, and he's a solid receiver. I have no clue what other running back in next year draft class provide such things but I think it would be wise to keep Forsett around and he can always be a solid third down back.

You're in for a treat when you find out who's likely to be declaring next year. I think we should try to keep Forsett for the reasons you mentioned, but next year's class is really something so I'd rather see his cap hit go elsewhere (FA cornerbacks).

[Gordo52]

I wouldn't give him a four-year deal tbh. There's a lot he's done himself, but his productivity is more about being a nice fit for an effective system and there's no guarantee that continues when Kubiak leaves.

Nicely said and my thoughts exactly.

[mg90]

3 years with a salary of 3 million / year and half guaranteed. I'd be surprised if anyone would come close to matching that. Legarrette Blount got nothing from NE. I know there is a gap in production between the two this year, but still leads me to believe he's not getting much elsewhere.

[Tenacious Faulker]

This is an interesting question.  The Rashad Jennings deal may be an appropriate starting point.  You know Forsett's agent is going to try and push for Ray Rice money though since that was the last deal and he's filled Rice's role as good as good as Rice himself...maybe better.    

 

I doubt they get Rice-type money, but since we're all speculating I'd think that given:

1) his low mileage

2) his league-leading yards/carry production

3) his ability to catch out of the back field

4) his proven patience, field vision, ability to hit hole quickly

 

Balanced against:

1) his age

2) he's Kubiak's system which makes average players great

3) the work the O-line has done

 

...that he could get $3M/yr for about 3 years...sound about right.

[Tenacious Faulker]

Another question to ask is "What do you think Forsett is worth...to another team?"

 

Would the Ravens be smart to extend his deal now/soon then shop him around to the highest bidder?  Could he garner a 3rd round pick?

[Moderator 3]

I've seen a lot of posts referring to his low mileage, but that's just on game days. There's still the wear and tear of camp, practice during the week, off-season activities to take into account. I wouldn't want to go over 3 years unless they can structure some sort of real cap-friendly deal.

[Petteri Moilanen]

I've seen a lot of posts referring to his low mileage, but that's just on game days. There's still the wear and tear of camp, practice during the week, off-season activities to take into account. I wouldn't want to go over 3 years unless they can structure some sort of real cap-friendly deal.

I was thinking about the same thing.

[SomeCreepinaVan]

Pay dis man his muuuneyah. •Eats oreo cookie.

[ellicottraven]

2 years 7 million with 3 million guaranteed.

It will be more like 3 yrs 11-12 M with at least 3.5M guaranteed imo...

[codizzle]

It will be more like 3 yrs 11-12 M with at least 3.5M guaranteed imo...

No thank you... Sorry

Love forsett and he deserves it but ravens can't do it

[RaineV1]

I'd say a three year, 3-5 million dollar contract. With like 1-1.5 million guarantee. He's good and should be paid but there's a lot of good running backs around, and we have an OC who's famous for making damn near any running back he gets into a star.

[GrimCoconut]

Forsett was shutdown today. Jaguars stopped him for sure. I wonder how much of it was his injury and how much was how well that underrated DL played. They're pretty good.

Edit: I still wouldn't like it if offered him more than 2.5 and at max $3M a year

[pep_meister]

3 years 5 mill 2m guarnteed with big incentives for 1k yard seasons. this guy wants to provide for his family and i think that is bringing the best out in him this year. he's basically got one contract left in him.

[Ravensuperfan1]

I wouldn't offer him more than 5M to be honest. (and I'm being onerous here)

[Cillmatic]

That chart is just scary for HBs. Just a total cliff at 28.

You think RB's have it bad, just look at the average lifespan of Cornerbacks, they're done by 28. Keep in mind our best corner Jimmy is already 26.

[fistfullwales]

It could have been a combination of our O-line not playing well or Jacksonville just focusing on stopping the run, but Forsett did nothing yesterday and seemed to lack explosiveness and tackle-slipping ability. I think he needs a break ROS. Split with BP and Lorenzo to give the old guy some rest. We need him 100% in the playoffs.

[CTFan]

I thought it was a mistake to give Ray Rice a long term contract because of his age and I feel the same way about Forsett. I appreciate what he's done this year, but giving an RB more than a two year deal is not wise, IMO. Let someone else do it.

[rmw10]

I thought it was a mistake to give Ray Rice a long term contract because of his age and I feel the same way about Forsett. I appreciate what he's done this year, but giving an RB more than a two year deal is not wise, IMO. Let someone else do it.

 

Don't look at the years.  Focus on the guaranteed money in case like Forsett. You'll probably find something similar to what we did with Jacoby.  We'll give him a longer deal to spread out the bonus money and keep the cap hit down, but it gives you an easy out after a year or two if he's no longer performing.

[CTFan]

Good point, but I think someone is going to guarantee 3 years worth of money.

[Fear_the_Raven]

 

That chart is just scary for HBs.  Just a total cliff at 28.

I'd like to see a similar chart, but instead of using age, base it on total snaps and carries (including college).  I know a lot of people assume the wear-and-tear is the biggest factor (which I agree with), but it'd be nice to see some confirmation.

 

I'd like to keep Forsett around though.  The run blocking has been great for the most part, but Forsett's still had to use his vision and ability to make the first guy miss to churn out all those yards.