Official Vent Thread Steelers

[pep_meister]

I might as well say who gets to catch the bus this week as opposed to who walks home, we will get this out of the way a lot quicker.

 

Jacoby can ride the bus, didn't do much but he got a kick return TD so that helps.

 

Flacco can, just for the beating he took today.

 

Torrey can for the first TD and the fact that he at least showed some improvement from last week.

 

Daniels and Gilmore didn't stick out to me in a negative way and Gilmore did get his first TD granted I wasn't paying much attention to them

 

Forsett was okay so he can catch a ride

 

Juice can catch a ride, I think he had a decent catch at one point

 

Ngata can catch a ride for that sack

 

Supernaw as he had a nice block on Jacoby's return

 

Anyone else who didn't see any snaps from scrimmage or weren't active can catch a ride. On the fence with a couple other guys as well but I don't know.

 

Besides that, everyone else can walk home. I know we have been blown out before but this one may be the worst loss in the Harbaugh - Flacco era.

you forgot upshaw.

[Purple_ICE 81]

Referees don't allow 6 passing TDs..a piss poor Jimmy Smith deficient Ravens defense does.

[PoeDinkum]

Joe said something similar last week "I put the defense in bad positions". He always takes the blame. He never shoves it off to anyone else.

Yup and turned around and played meh tonight. Not all his fault, but enough that he has his share of the blame to solve when looking in the mirror. Players say this too many weeks in a season and they watch from the couch like us during the postseason and at this point we have an uphill battle for him not to have his rear on the couch for the second year in a row.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

On a little bit of a bright spot we finally got something from Jacoby Jones. That was nice to see.

[drew17322]

Darn Steeler fans talking like they won the superbowl... Offense played like complete dookie... and our secondary was unseen. 4th place now. Swim or sink!

[52520Andrew]

you forgot upshaw.

 

What did he do though besides that big hit on Ben that was a penalty?

[Raving_Heathen]

Offensive inconsistency seems to be a staple of the Joe Flacco lead Ravens regardless of who is calling the shots or what type of magical scheme we run.

 

Steelers fans have been saying the same thing about Roethlisberger and Giants fans the same thing about Eli after every bad game. It's definitely not a Flacco only thing.

[Alaska Alaska!]

We need to do a better job catching the ball, and Joe needs to move quicker and not throw the ball to bad spots when he is under pressure. Too many times he throws interceptions when under pressure. He'll have a great game and then it's like he is slow and sluggish. He is a good QB no question! But why doesn't he move better. The best QB's are quick and precise.

Maybe Joe can't do that.  A lot of QBs can't.  If we just 1) Do better at protecting Joe and 2) Get a reliable receiver then we'll be A-Okay

[kennethyamini1989]

Referees don't allow 6 passing TDs..a piss poor Jimmy Smith deficient Ravens defense does.

refs took 7 points from the ravens while giving the Steelers 21 points...but meh, its WWE 

[kennethyamini1989]

https://scontent-a-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t31.0-8/10636538_851909368160820_7552425034666095794_o.jpg

says it all...

[pep_meister]

What did he do though besides that big hit on Ben that was a penalty?

what you just said. 

[757RavensFan]

"the spot" gave them a first down and kept a drive alive when it would have been 4th and they would have punted. That became a TD.

Moseley's PI did same.

Webb's became same.

That's 21 points on the officiating. Pretty substantial.

You don't know if they would have punted on 4th down especially since it was less than a yard if they would have spotted the ball correctly.

As far as the other 2 penalties, the defense still had opportunity to stop them and they didn't. 1st down doesn't always mean TDs. The defense needs to make stops.

[BMORE_96]

What bad draft picks?  2014 has been a great year for drafts especially Mosley.  But I guess in today's NFL fans won't let rookies be rookies.  They want all draft picks to play like pro bowlers their first year. 

 

 

Wow. We suck. I don't know what hurt is the most, bad draft picks or lazy players. Our secondary needs to rebuilt from the ground up. Or offense is done. Joe missed so many open receivers, and it was rare for our Receivers to even get open. We're the worst team in the division now. Bad drafting and QB play did us in.

No way. I think 2013 and 2014 are shaping up to be two of our best drafts and thats saying something considering the Oz's track record. We are also the only team in the division to have won something in this current decade. I'm down for sucking last year and possibly this year, if it means we come back with a vengence for the next 5 years.

 

People who say we need to rebuild: we are rebuilding as we speak. Look at the roster turnover from the superbowl. I'd say we are more than halfway from a complete rebuild(excluding flacco, jimmy smith, and kelechi osemele).  

[The Raven]

Where was Steve Smith again? Jogging through his routes.

 

His diva side was on full display today.

[FoxRox75]

One thing's for sure; if the Steelers beat us to the playoffs, I'll be rooting against them the whole way, regardless of who they're playing. It feels weird that each game this year was decided by 20 points; very untrue to our recent history. We have a lot of work to do, and we'll probably need some help from other teams to beat our division opponents. At this point it's hard to imagine we can be better than 10-6.

[StingerNLG]

Referees don't allow 6 passing TDs..a piss poor Jimmy Smith deficient Ravens defense does.

 

 

They do when their BS penalties move the Steeler offense 15 yards at a time and keeps the defense on the field longer than they should be.   Or when they give the Steelers a first down that clearly wasn't.   Or when they call DPI on guys that clearly were playing the ball and shouldn't have been flagged.

 

All that adds up.  Sorry, but it does.   This isn't one or two bad calls, this was nearly an entire half of them in succession.

[Alaska Alaska!]

They do when their BS penalties move the Steeler offense 15 yards at a time and keeps the defense on the field longer than they should be.   Or when they give the Steelers a first down that clearly wasn't.   Or when they call DPI on guys that clearly were playing the ball and shouldn't have been flagged.

 

All that adds up.  Sorry, but it does.   This isn't one or two bad calls, this was nearly an entire half of them in succession.

You know what?  When the coaches go back in the locker room, do want them to tell the team "Guys... you did great..It was those rotten bad calls by the refs that cost us this win.  Keep doing what you're doing fellas !"

[GrimCoconut]

Vent thread? Okay. I'm mad I wasted my time watching a team of players play undisciplined football and act like high schoolers on the field and give up on the game when it was still within reach because of bogus officiating when I could've watched the Walking Dead. 

[PoeDinkum]

To be fair, the FO does its best job to prepare for a reload over a rebuild; however, injuries are what prevent us from reloading.  Imagine if we still had Pitta, Jimmy, AND Asa?  My god we'd be unstoppable. 

Pretty good point. We have Jimmy and Pitta and this game is at the very least much closer, but as you know all teams suffer injuries to overcome. I just think some of the directions we chose to go in re: FA personnel and the co-coaching OL debacle last year compounded where we are at now, so I do lay some blame at the feet of the FO. Don't get me wrong though, I am thankful for what they accomplished prior to SB 47, but it is clear that decisions made and talent injured have put us in a much more compromised position than most fans are willing to admit.

[BMORE_96]

Being a fringe playoff team does not jive with me, IMO, considering the division title is tough to get at this point with everyone being .500 and playing the NFC south and afc south. I'd say not making the playoffs would not be so bad. Better draft position. We need more impact players and the easiest way to get them is high in the draft. 

[StingerNLG]

You know what?  When the coaches go back in the locker room, do want them to tell the team "Guys... you did great..It was those rotten bad calls by the refs that cost us this win.  Keep doing what you're doing fellas !"

 

So you're for blaming the defense for getting those calls?   Were they guilty of simply being on the field?   I'm not getting your point here.   If I'm John Harbaugh right now I'm standing up for my team and letting the league know tonight was not right by a country mile.

[Bravens292]

Flacco owns and will be here for another decade barring injury, deal with it.

 

I capitalized "IF" for a reason. I was playing the hypothetical game for a poster that wanted Marcus Mariota. Believe me im no flacco basher. I kept complaining in the game thread Flacco has no weapons and i still believe we will go nowhere with UDFA's as starters. just not gonna work.

[757RavensFan]

Blaming this loss on the refs totally blows my mind!!

[Raving_Heathen]

We need to do a better job catching the ball, and Joe needs to move quicker and not throw the ball to bad spots when he is under pressure. Too many times he throws interceptions when under pressure. He'll have a great game and then it's like he is slow and sluggish. He is a good QB no question! But why doesn't he move better. The best QB's are quick and precise.

 

I think everyone of our receivers and dbs need to spend 24 hours a day on the jugs machine... while they're eating, sleeping, on the toilet... we really do have serious problems in this category. It's insane.

[Purple_ICE 81]

They do when their BS penalties move the Steeler offense 15 yards at a time and keeps the defense on the field longer than they should be. Or when they give the Steelers a first down that clearly wasn't. Or when they call DPI on guys that clearly were playing the ball and shouldn't have been flagged.

All that adds up. Sorry, but it does. This isn't one or two bad calls, this was nearly an entire half of them in succession.

I agree there were a good amount of terrible calls...but 6 scores allowed by a Ravens D is inexcusable.

[allblackraven]

Lot of complaints.

Joe didn't look too sharp. A lot of his throws were off and not well placed. Have to wonder if it was because...

The offensive line was piss poor. Monroe, KO, and Zuttah all blocked terribly and couldn't pick up up a blitz to save their lives. Maybe they would have been helped if...

The receivers could get open. Ike Taylor and Cortez Allen are either out or hardly playing and so the Steelers are basically running their third and fourth corners, but the Ravens receivers can't get open? Not to mention Polamalu and Shazier went out. The Ravens need to do something about this lack of separation because when you can't do it with four of the starting pass coverage options are out, something is wrong. Sad that secondary could cover when...

The Ravens secondary couldn't cover. Webb got route only worked, the chemistry in zone was massively off, and Daryl Smith looked so slow. Jimmy is going to get PAID because he's just so valuable. Still, the defense set themselves up for multiple chances at turnovers, but failed to make any of them. Probably had about three or four dropped interceptions, which would have been huge.

The referees were awful. I'm usually not one to complain about the referees, but the penalties on the brawls were soft when both teams are punching and shoving. I didn't think Suggs deserved a flag. He shouldn't hit a runner that isn't down? Mosley got a terrible PI call on a beautiful pass deflection. That botched challenge, which was so easy to see, cost the Ravens majorly. If the Ravens had rightfully gotten the ball (pending a punt), they'd have a chance to score a touchdown and make it a five point game. Instead, it's a touchdown and a 19 point game. Massive swing. And how many flags did the Steelers get away with? So much holding. Lots of push offs by the Steelers receivers. I don't remember the final outcome of this drive, but Steve got completely arm barred in the end zone on a deep pass. Referees were abysmal

Right on. I'd also add a blatant OPI on Webb and that off side call / NZI on Dumervil when it was clear false start. Both cost us TDs. On the garbage TD at the end, knee was down before the ball broke a plane.

 

Our O line was terrible tonight. Hurst and Urschel looked way better in run blocking and they were able to fix bad pass protection DURING the game. I'm pretty sure KO is not at 100% but Monroe is a big, big worry - he sure does not look like franchise LT after getting a contract. Maybe the injury still bothers him but honestly, he didn't look like a world beater even when fully healthy.

[Alaska Alaska!]

So you're for blaming the defense for getting those calls?   Were they guilty of simply being on the field?   I'm not getting your point here.   If I'm John Harbaugh right now I'm standing up for my team and letting the league know tonight was not right by a country mile.

I'm blaming this loss on the team.  The O-line for failing.  The secondaries for missing assignments.  WRs for not getting open.  That's where the blame goes.  You have fun blaming the refs.

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I said it before and I am saying it again LACK OF URGENCY!!! Last week when 1st place was in our reach and this week with lthe loser moving down to bottom of the pack!!!

[MTRavensFan]

Maybe someone that watches the games a little closer can answer this, why does Joe not get the ball out quicker when he's getting pounded? Was doing pretty good with 2-3 second drop backs, getting it to OD, SSS, and Forsett. Why do we not do that more often? 

 

I hate Brady/Manning because they'll nickel and dime you all the way to the endzone, but it's efficient. Plus, it draws the secondary closer to the line, setting up a long ball. Can our guys just not get separation that close or whaaaat?

Brady/Manning have receivers who get open quickly. They run 4-5 WR sets to ensure this.

Joe has receivers who are draped/held/not physical enough to get free - take your pick.

 

No one is open, Joe's running for his life trying to make something happen. Sometimes he tries to force it too much, and sometimes he waits 'til the absolute last moment to throw, both scenarios turn into INTs

[Bravens292]

You don't know if they would have punted on 4th down especially since it was less than a yard if they would have spotted the ball correctly.

As far as the other 2 penalties, the defense still had opportunity to stop them and they didn't. 1st down doesn't always mean TDs. The defense needs to make stops.

 

This. I was prepared for an overturned replay and have them go for it to begin with. I think it was one of the less impactful calls. If anything it just showed how terrible the refs really were tonight but to say it gave the steelers points is a stretch.