Official Vent Thread Steelers

[pmr468]

The Bottom line is: we played awful, and the refs helped that team from Norther West Virginia finish it off. 

[Raving_Heathen]

And We've had our fun with Flacco. Maybe its time to move him along and get another young Gunslinger.

 

Who? It's not like Andrew Lucks grow on trees

[The Raven]

Does this loss count as Joe's loss too?  You know, since Joe takes that title of being 'the most winningest QB'   he sure is heating up with 2 INT, 2 INT, 1 INT back to back to back stinkers.   

 

Fire Kubiak excuse anyone?

 

 

Don't even play that card. Nobody's calling for Kubiak's job. He isn't the one that was jogging through his routes (Steve Smith)

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

I saw a lot of missed calls by the refs but thats every game. A team makes their own fate/destiny and right now our Ravens look like they have absolutly no urgency at all. Last week for 1st place in the AFC north LOSS. Tonight loser goes to last place in the AFC north LOSS. Absolutly no urgency...

[Purple_ICE 81]

Ben Roethlisburger- 860 yards 12 TDs over last 2 games...PEYTON WHO??? BRADY WHO???

Despite the poor officiating...our defense got NUKED completely DESTROYED, and our offense struggled in that beat down of a loss. Our secondary is weak without Jimmy Smith and Lardarius Webb seems to look like less and less of his allpro esque former self out there. Our run D and pass rush was the only sparkle our D had through this meltdown.

Offensive inconsistency seems to be a staple of the Joe Flacco lead Ravens regardless of who is calling the shots or what type of magical scheme we run. After the 5 TD domination of the Buccs Flacco has thrown 4TDs and 5 INTs to go with a 1-2 record. We have to find a way to prepare our offense for this final stretch of games where we will see some formidable opponents. The division is out of reach and with a tough final stretch...its hard to envision us winning more than 4 or 5 of our final 7.

[BmoreBird22]

Oh, I will say that I thought Elam had a great game. I'd said for a while that if you get him in that rover role, he'll play well. Hill pushed him into it and it paid off big time. Elam was strong against the run and blitzed really well

[MTRavensFan]

I would just like someone in the locker room to tell it like it is....listening to the postgame Harbs and Joe sound very mature, very professional, and TOTALLY disonnected. Mind you, I don't want Chicken Little, but someone needs to say, "look we put that garbage on the field and we don't make the playoffs, we don't make the playoffs and guys are out of jobs, SO let's start playing for our jobs, for ourselves, and build a hardnose team identity for each other." Ugh. So tired of the monotone rationalization of medicroity..."we got to make plays, it is a long season, we will bounce back" while true it sure as heck ain't motivating this team. Again, 1 game above .500 since SB 47. UNACCEPTABLE!

Hey, Peyton said something very similar today.

Like "I don't often get up here and say I stunk, but today I stunk."

 

Pretty emotional about it, too.

[757RavensFan]

Read the ^^^^ posts... Did you see the game?

I watched every second of the game crying about the refs when you lose by 20 doesn't pass the litmus test. I saw 3 bad calls, the spot, Mosely's PI call and Webb getting thrown down. I'm standing by my statement that we tanked after LT's fumble in every aspect of the game!

[ALSKAN RAVEN FAN]

People tend to have very short memories...  Grbac, Boller just to name 2.

Great point Mom...

[MTRavensFan]

Oh, I will say that I thought Elam had a great game. I'd said for a while that if you get him in that rover role, he'll play well. Hill pushed him into it and it paid off big time. Elam was strong against the run and blitzed really well

agree.

[Raving_Heathen]

People tend to have very short memories...  Grbac, Boller just to name 2.

 

You would think with us being so close to DC that Ravens fans would be grateful we don't go through what the Skins do year in and year out with their QBs and team.

[Alaska Alaska!]

Oh, I will say that I thought Elam had a great game. I'd said for a while that if you get him in that rover role, he'll play well. Hill pushed him into it and it paid off big time. Elam was strong against the run and blitzed really well

Exactly.  For the first time in a long time Elam was positioned where he should be!  

[ravensdfan]

Funny the defense held up for quite sometime with this pathetic secondary. the play of the secondary was horrendous, coverage tackling ball awareness, you name it they done it bad. Secondary full of frank walkers even Webb looks abysmal.

 

13 minutes. that's how long they held up.

[Alaska Alaska!]

You would think with us being so close to DC that Ravens fans would be grateful we don't go through what the Skins do year in and year out with their QBs and team.

Success creates high expectations.  

[PoeDinkum]

im tired of lamenting and criticizing coaches or players. I don't see how the secondary could have performed much better with our talent. I thought Hill looked good. Webb had his moments, but his change of direction skills are not where they once were. Elam was pretty quiet.  Franks and Brown are 5th rounders respectively and they played like it. Looking back, not sure how we could have done better in the offseason without overspending. We tried to get flowers but we know how that went.  Getting the roster to be elite again will take time. I think one more solid draft can get us over the top. 

This is closer to reality, but most folks on here, including me bought into the reloading talk we were sold, rather than rebuilding reality we are in. Our loss to Cincy woke me up...and I know better now, but most folk on her won't and/or can't temper their expectations, especially when the FO won't own it either. Our record doesn't lie mediocrity since SB 47 as we are 1 game above .500 since then.

[playlikeawhat]

Not gonna lie, I saw more self-sabotage than usual by the Ravens at Heinz tonight.  I can't blame the refs as much as I want to this time.

[ravensdfan]

Hey, Peyton said something very similar today.

Like "I don't often get up here and say I stunk, but today I stunk."

 

Pretty emotional about it, too.

 

Joe said something similar last week "I put the defense in bad positions". He always takes the blame. He never shoves it off to anyone else.

[AsianRice]

Alright guys, thumbs up for holler at Jacoby's 108yd kickoff return TD!!!!

[757RavensFan]

Can't believe people are blaming the refs. Were they terrible? Absolutely. However, they are not the reason we lost. Look at the game overall. Name one facet of the game where we played well. I bet you can't. We simply did not execute. Regardless of the refs, the team as a whole played a terrible game. That's the reason we lost, not the refs.

+1000

[CTSxViper]

We need to do a better job catching the ball, and Joe needs to move quicker and not throw the ball to bad spots when he is under pressure. Too many times he throws interceptions when under pressure. He'll have a great game and then it's like he is slow and sluggish. He is a good QB no question! But why doesn't he move better. The best QB's are quick and precise.

[jazz1988]

Who? It's not like Andrew Lucks grow on trees

That guy had 500 passing yard game against The Steelers and still lost in a big way.

[PoeDinkum]

Hey, Peyton said something very similar today.

Like "I don't often get up here and say I stunk, but today I stunk."

 

Pretty emotional about it, too.

Very, very good point!

[ravensdfan]

I watched every second of the game crying about the refs when you lose by 20 doesn't pass the litmus test. I saw 3 bad calls, the spot, Mosely's PI call and Webb getting thrown down. I'm standing by my statement that we tanked after LT's fumble in every aspect of the game!

 

"the spot" gave them a first down and kept a drive alive when it would have been 4th and they would have punted. That became a TD.

 

Moseley's PI did same.

 

Webb's became same.

 

That's 21 points on the officiating. Pretty substantial.

[RaineV1]

Can't believe people are blaming the refs. Were they terrible? Absolutely. However, they are not the reason we lost. Look at the game overall. Name one facet of the game where we played well. I bet you can't. We simply did not execute. Regardless of the refs, the team as a whole played a terrible game. That's the reason we lost, not the refs.

Agreed. The refs sucked but they didn't cause the Ravens o-line to play horribly. They didn't cause the receivers to not get open. They aren't the ones to blame for Antonio Brown proving once again that he's one of the best receivers in the league. The Steeler's showed what it's like to have a great young receiver and to make adjustments on defense. They out played the Ravens.

[52520Andrew]

I might as well say who gets to catch the bus this week as opposed to who walks home, we will get this out of the way a lot quicker.

 

Jacoby can ride the bus, didn't do much but he got a kick return TD so that helps.

 

Flacco can, just for the beating he took today.

 

Torrey can for the first TD and the fact that he at least showed some improvement from last week.

 

Daniels and Gilmore didn't stick out to me in a negative way and Gilmore did get his first TD granted I wasn't paying much attention to them

 

Forsett was okay so he can catch a ride

 

Juice can catch a ride, I think he had a decent catch at one point

 

Ngata can catch a ride for that sack

 

Supernaw as he had a nice block on Jacoby's return

 

Koch and Tucker too, nearly forgot them

 

Anyone else who didn't see any snaps from scrimmage or weren't active can catch a ride. On the fence with a couple other guys as well but I don't know.

 

Besides that, everyone else can walk home. I know we have been blown out before but this one may be the worst loss in the Harbaugh - Flacco era.

[aarondmonroe]

If thats the best we can do in oue secondary. We are in trouble. D. Franks is to old and to slow. It looks like the corners and safeties are play scared with no heart to hit anybody. They don't tackle and they play off too much. I feel sorry for the D Line. What the purpose of rushing the quarterback if the corners and safeties play off and scared. We need press corners and safeties that listen to coaches when they tell them to play the postion.

[Alaska Alaska!]

This is closer to reality, but most folks on here, including me bought into the reloading talk we were sold, rather than rebuilding reality we are in. Our loss to Cincy woke me up...and I know better now, but most folk on her won't and/or can't temper their expectations, especially when the FO won't own it either. Our record doesn't lie mediocrity since SB 47 as we are 1 game above .500 since then.

To be fair, the FO does its best job to prepare for a reload over a rebuild; however, injuries are what prevent us from reloading.  Imagine if we still had Pitta, Jimmy, AND Asa?  My god we'd be unstoppable. 

[MTRavensFan]

Joe said something similar last week "I put the defense in bad positions". He always takes the blame. He never shoves it off to anyone else.

I totally agree with you there.

Joe always puts the weight on his shoulders. It's probably what I love most about him.

[GrimCoconut]

Can't believe people are blaming the refs. Were they terrible? Absolutely. However, they are not the reason we lost. Look at the game overall. Name one facet of the game where we played well. I bet you can't. We simply did not execute. Regardless of the refs, the team as a whole played a terrible game. That's the reason we lost, not the refs.

I'm going to disagree with you here, and while you may disagree with me and that's OK, I want you to hear me out. 

 

We played great early in the game. The defense looked absolutely awesome. The Taliaferro fumble changed the entire game, and then the Joe Flacco INT sealed it. To follow it up, the defense, special teams and offense tried to rally at points, but they were handicapped by a plethora of issues. Special teams played the best until that botched mistake on the 2-PT conversion and then the botched onside kick that was successful. Even then, the game was out of reach. 

 

My point is, we had early issues where we are directly responsible, but we started to rally and showed some signs of life; however, those signs were quelled when the referees made extremely questionable calls that heavily favored the Steelers in ever facet. These calls eventually frustrated key Ravens' players, such as Suggs, Smith Sr and Torrey to name a few. I saw those three all give up at certain points, and they are the ones I recall off the top of my head. Could've been more. So, in that way, I understand what you're saying. We didn't play well at all. It was a very ugly and sloppy game. We did it to ourselves; however, the referees frustrated the Ravens' players, which directly lost us the game when those players just gave up and didn't give full effort. 

 

It was a really ugly game. We definitely deserved to lose this one. 

[RavensPunkXVX]

Maybe someone that watches the games a little closer can answer this, why does Joe not get the ball out quicker when he's getting pounded? Was doing pretty good with 2-3 second drop backs, getting it to OD, SSS, and Forsett. Why do we not do that more often? 

 

I hate Brady/Manning because they'll nickel and dime you all the way to the endzone, but it's efficient. Plus, it draws the secondary closer to the line, setting up a long ball. Can our guys just not get separation that close or whaaaat?