Official Vent Thread Steelers

[52N19]

i just watched the game on rewind. there were a lot of balls in the air that our defense couldn't grab. one ball hit franks in the hands. the onside kick went right to elam and he simply could;t control the ball. it may be hard to see but if we sure up the secondary we will be find. our biggest problem is at receiver. we don't have any guys who get separation or get make the tough catch.

[Ravens1991]

I didn't post this on Sunday but seeing that TE get his "Rudy moment" TD against Daryl Smith made me want us to cut Daryl on Monday.

[Wholelottahaloti]

Yup- there is no proof anywhere of bias by the refs! Nope, none at all........

https://vine.co/v/OOlHJet6EJU

https://vine.co/v/OOlwugYd1au

 

Really nice isolations to show how ridiculous those calls were.

 

There was a pasty head referee waving his arms against us all night.

 

Add Ben's bogus quarterback sneak post tackle shuffling the ball forward for first down.

 

Plus a couple other Antonio Brown initiated collisions to gain separation.

 

And then consider Steve Smith where one week earlier he had our TD vs the Bengals reversed and one has to realize we are being punished for something we can't understand.

 

Many times there is unfairness in officiating and we were victims of it.

 

Did we stink? Yes we did, but it was made a lot worse by blown calls while playing poorly.

[ravensdfan]

Easily the most frustrating loss thus far. I thought Forsett should have been utilized a lot more than he was. Taliaferro should not have been getting the amount of touches that he was getting. We also should have utilized the shotgun formation more often. Defensively...we were just awful. No pressure and a lack of quality secondary players is not a good combination. We should have at least used press coverage to slow down their WRs and to buy our pass rush some time to get to Rothlisberger. The loss of Jimmy Smith was definitely felt, not only in this loss, but the Bengals loss as well. Now, QB play, I'm usually a big Flacco supporter, but he looked awful this game. That being said, I don't think that the oline being unable to figure out a simple blitz variation and the WRs being unable to break from their coverage against a sub-par secondary did him any favors. 

 

Secondary- F

Linebackers- C

Dline- B-

 

Oline- F

Receivers- D+

Running Backs- B-

Quarterback- D

 

Special Teams- A 

There is NO WAY the receivers get a better grade than Flacco. A 91.3 QB rating and over a 66% completion percentage with an O line fail (which you admit yourself) and receivers who can't get open to save their lives.

 

People around here are just ridiculous sometimes.

[Neal Could Block the SUN!!]

Really nice isolations to show how ridiculous those calls were.

 

There was a pasty head referee waving his arms against us all night.

 

Add Ben's bogus quarterback sneak post tackle shuffling the ball forward for first down.

 

Plus a couple other Antonio Brown initiated collisions to gain separation.

 

And then consider Steve Smith where one week earlier he had our TD vs the Bengals reversed and one has to realize we are being punished for something we can't understand.

 

Many times there is unfairness in officiating and we were victims of it.

 

Did we stink? Yes we did, but it was made a lot worse by blown calls while playing poorly.

Agreed

But even with video proof, Collinsworth, and an obvious continuing trend by the officiating crews-

There is absolutely no evidence that the Ravens are getting hosed by the refs.

Whatever- on to the TITANS!!

Go RAVENS

[Edgar]

I'm guessing you didn't intently watch him last year because he was outstanding. Like, excellent. You can't lump him in with the rest of the offensive line. His worse game came in Chicago as a result of severe weather, but other than that, he was dynamite. I'll agree he's been a disappointment so far this season, but not at all last year

He was our best lineman last year but that isn't saying much. to say he was "excellent" is a stretch. He struggled against The bengals particularly the second match up. I didn't think he played well at Minnesota or against Detroit. he gave up a key sack against green bay. I don't think severe weather should be offered as an excuse in Chicago. he played badly.

    just my recollections of watching him last year.

[BmoreBird22]

He was our best lineman last year but that isn't saying much. to say he was "excellent" is a stretch. He struggled against The bengals particularly the second match up. I didn't think he played well at Minnesota or against Detroit. he gave up a key sack against green bay. I don't think severe weather should be offered as an excuse in Chicago. he played badly.

    just my recollections of watching him last year.

He gave up a sack against Green Bay in his first game here, but outside of that, not a bad game at all. It was his only mental lapse. I remember watching the rest of that game and Monroe had his man blocked so well that it looked like Joe might never get hit from behind.

Severe weather isn't an excuse, but a field that's so torn up you can't get footing is.

All of this is also while having to develop chemistry with a new team. Offensive lineman require chemistry to play well together and being thrust into action after one week is difficult. To expect him to gel with the rest of the offensive line is even more difficult. I felt he was excellent given the circumstances

[Underdogsontop!]

Wow Steelers #1 in our division and Browns #2...... This feels like a bad dream:(

[HoldingCall]

Steelers are 5-2 in the conference; Browns 4-3; Bengals  4-3; Ravens 2-4. The Ravens appears to be out of the playoffs unless they win the division, which seems unlikely but not impossible. Smith out for the season puts the team in the critical care unit.

[kakatakoi]

Shore up the secondary and Accept NO excuses: No need to name names, I've seen better performances from corners and safeties on a 4A high school football team.  What the he!! are you doing looking into the back field and watching the ball sail over your head EVERY time? It's the reason you lost against cinci a few weeks ago 3rd and a mile before cinci throws a last ditch effort and took the lead. Forget about the bad call against Steve Smith that robbed the team of a TD, that 3rd and a mile play was appalling. It's inexcusable at this level, pull your heads out or find a new line of work! When you hold the Steelers to under 50 yds of rushing you control the tempo and you KNOW they have to throw so be in position and at least jump for the ball...Ravens corners& safeties you egregiously embarrassed a team that prides itself on Defense and after watching this repeatedly and praying the front office would make adjustments, you get worse so that's a direct reflection on the secondary coaches...piss poor coaching, piss poor secondary performance, Head Coach...don't accept excuses for this, that's not what got you to the superbowl, are you still hungry for another championship or do  you want to be everyone's friend now???         

[Alexir]

Hey guys, been a while since I posted (to many peoples pleasure im sure lol).

 

After stewing over the embarrassment that was Sunday Night Football. Just wanted to go over somethings that we did well.

 

*Nothing.

 

Ok, we weren't that bad, let me think of a few things:

* Justin Tucker and CJ2Ray show up every game.

* Justin Forsett isn't a fluke.

 

On to things that irked me.

*Terrell Suggs. I love the emotion you bring to the game but cool your jets. Look at the scoreboard. You caused soooo much yardage in their favor. I get your point about Blount still moving, I see you did hit the hip, but it was a classless play and you deserve the fine. Don't play like that.

 

*Joe Flacco. You are a 7 year vet, I appreciate the fact you want to keep the play alive but take the sack, man. No business throwing that game changing interception. Steve Smith and Torrey are great guys, but we need a game changing receiver. When AJ Green is the 3rd best receiver in the division, and you got guys like Steve Smith and Torrey as your 1 and 2, you know you need help. Seriously though, we need our Josh Gordon, Antonio Brown, or AJ green.

 

*Fumbling in general. I don't blame QBs too much for fumbling as they are typically holding the ball with their one hand in a throwing motion before getting hit. However, as a running back, how do you fumble the ball. That is your baby, hold on to the ball. YOU GET PAID MILLIONS. Number 1 priority is securing that ball, number 2 priority is getting yards.

 

*Coaching. I don't think we have a bad coaches. I just think we were greatly outcoached and you could see it on their faces.

 

* Eugene Monroe. Harrison JUST came out of retirement a few weeks ago and you made him look like the reigning DPOY. Was literally living turnstile. I don't think he got out of character for Halloween, I am guessing he went as Michael Oher?

 

* Interior/PB rbs. Yes, I know they ran a lot of blitzes but a lot of stunts up the middle with ease. LOTS of traffic up the middle. Pass blocking running backs were ineffective.

 

Also, I am done blaming the refs. You have 60 minutes to the win the game. Overcome the refs, don't succumb to them and let them be an excuse.

[J E T S]

 

*Joe Flacco. You are a 7 year vet, I appreciate the fact you want to keep the play alive but take the sack, man. No business throwing that game changing interception. Steve Smith and Torrey are great guys, but we need a game changing receiver. When AJ Green is the 3rd best receiver in the division, and you got guys like Steve Smith and Torrey as your 1 and 2, you know you need help. Seriously though, we need our Josh Gordon, Antonio Brown, or AJ green.

You guys don't give Steve and Torrey Smith enough credit.  They are perfectly capable of being number 1 and 2 receivers on winning football teams.  Pitta being out just makes it easier for defenses to focus on them and part of the blame is on Flacco as well.

[arnie_uk]

You guys don't give Steve and Torrey Smith enough credit. They are perfectly capable of being number 1 and 2 receivers on winning football teams. Pitta being out just makes it easier for defenses to focus on them and part of the blame is on Flacco as well.

no, torrey can't run routes, beat press, has inconsistent hands, doesn't fight, doesn't come back to the ball, doesn't track deep bombs all that well.

Probably missed something.

[HoldingCall]

You guys don't give Steve and Torrey Smith enough credit.  They are perfectly capable of being number 1 and 2 receivers on winning football teams.  Pitta being out just makes it easier for defenses to focus on them and part of the blame is on Flacco as well.

We know Steve is capable of being a number one but Torrey has never been with another NFL QB to see whether he would be any different, As for Joe having some of the blame? Yes! He's not perfect! Some of this falls on Joe as well as Torrey and any other receiver.

 

Every member of the Ravens team will admit they want and need to get better but a few fans just can't see it that way.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Probably going to sound petty and sore loser-ish, but let's be honest, we just got blown out by a Steelers team that probably isn't very good and isn't going anywhere this year. That doesn't say very good things about this Ravens team.

Hate to say it but you're spot on! I said two weeks ago that we had just been beaten by a team that

was not a good team --- the bungling Bengals. I got slammed by a couple of omniscient fans.

Unfortunately, whatever hope we had of competing for a playoff spot was decimated last Sunday night

in Pittsburgh when our entire team seemingly imploded. Our woes are compounded by the NFL officials

who are taking out their wrath about Ray Rice on our entire team. Some of the no-calls for which we

have been the recipients are obvious to even the most casual observer. We are now in the middle of a

perfect storm and its going to tough to get out of the trough of this rogue wave of bad officiating.

BTW, for all those Raven fans and trolls who were singing Andy Dalton's praises, the mighty Bengals

just aren't that good as Cleveland proved on Thursday night. Cleveland appears to be in the driver's seat in our division now. While all four teams in our division currently have winning records, we

just may be in the most over-rated division of the AFC.

[baroquenspirit]

By Ray Fittipaldo / Pittsburgh Post-Gazette

The nastiness from the Steelers-Baltimore game Sunday night left a few of the Ravens and one Steelers player light in the pocket.

The NFL fined four Ravens for their personal-foul penalties in the Steelers’ 43-23 victory at Heinz Field.

Ravens linebacker Courtney Upshaw was fined $20,000 for hitting Ben Roethlisberger late and striking him in the neck area. Linebacker Terrell Suggs was fined $8,268 for hitting LeGarrette Blount late after his forward progress had been stopped. Offensive lineman Jeremy Zuttah was fined $8,268 for unnecessarily striking Steelers defensive lineman Cam Heyward, and linebacker Albert McClellan was fined $8,268 for a late hit on a punt return.

The Steelers were called for three personal-foul penalties, but only linebacker Vince Williams was fined ($8,268) for taunting after the Steelers stopped a 2-point conversion attempt by the Ravens.

The play that angered the Steelers most was Suggs’ hit on Blount because it was from behind and Blount had no way to protect himself. Blount called Suggs a “dirty” player after the game.

Suggs said after the game that he went in low on Blount because Blount was still moving the pile, but replays showed Blount’s forward progress had been stopped and that he was being pushed backward at the time Suggs threw himself into his legs from behind.

[frozen joe flacco fan]

Is this a joke or what? The hit on Blount pales in comparison to the hit the Steelers' 36 year old LB

laid on Colt McCoy a couple of years ago. Suggs used very poor judgement on his low hit against Blount but it wasn't dirty. Dirty is hitting a QB in the helmet with your helmet after he has released the

ball as in the former case. Dirty is tearing off Joe Flacco's helmet and not getting called for it.

Dirty is Vonte Burfict hitting Joe Flacco in the groin and not getting called for it.

What a ridiculous post! Our team plays hard but not dirty. There's a big difference.

[1/28/01]

Is this a joke or what? The hit on Blount pales in comparison to the hit the Steelers' 36 year old LB

laid on Colt McCoy a couple of years ago. Suggs used very poor judgement on his low hit against Blount but it wasn't dirty. Dirty is hitting a QB in the helmet with your helmet after he has released the

ball as in the former case. Dirty is tearing off Joe Flacco's helmet and not getting called for it.

Dirty is Vonte Burfict hitting Joe Flacco in the groin and not getting called for it.

What a ridiculous post! Our team plays hard but not dirty. There's a big difference.

With that said, it was a dirty hit by Suggs. I can remove my shades.

[orangle123]

With that said, it was a dirty hit by Suggs. I can remove my shades.

I honestly disagree.  I understand why it's being called dirty, but hell, if I'm suggs, and I have a free hit on a still live play, I'm taking it!  You don't assert dominance by letting a play die out and idly watching.  With that said, if a Steeler did that to us, I'd be pissed.  It comes with the bully mentality.  "We build bullies"  Sound familiar?

[757RavensFan]

legal hit, yes.  Cheap shot, yes.   I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, if someone hit Forsett or Taliaferro in the same manner, we would be screaming for a flag and calling the player "dirty"!

[baroquenspirit]

legal hit, yes.  Cheap shot, yes.   I'll say it until I'm blue in the face, if someone hit Forsett or Taliaferro in the same manner, we would be screaming for a flag and calling the player "dirty"!

And quite frankly, this could be said about any NFL fan base. But not everyone is as honest as you. Respect. 

[frozen joe flacco fan]

With that said, it was a dirty hit by Suggs. I can remove my shades.

If you thought that was dirty, you haven't watched many Ravens-Steelers games and three of Pittsburgh's players who defined the meaning of the word "dirty", which is why the Pittsburgh Post/Gazette article

lacks credibility. It was a cheap shot and it was incredibly stupid, but it was not nearly as dirty as some of the blows Joe Flacco has incurred w/o penalty. Besides, football is a game where the so-called "bullies" usually win and the finesse teams don't. Put your shades back on - you'll see the world more clearly!

[1/28/01]

If you thought that was dirty, you haven't watched many Ravens-Steelers games and three of Pittsburgh's players who defined the meaning of the word "dirty", which is why the Pittsburgh Post/Gazette article

lacks credibility. It was a cheap shot and it was incredibly stupid, but it was not nearly as dirty as some of the blows Joe Flacco has incurred w/o penalty. Besides, football is a game where the so-called "bullies" usually win and the finesse teams don't. Put your shades back on - you'll see the world more clearly!

Yup, first Ravens/Steelers game I've ever watched.

You said it was NOT NEARLY AS DIRTY as some of the blows Flacco has incurred...meaning it was was dirty, just at a lesser degree. Thanks for agreeing!

[redrum52]

Yup, first Ravens/Steelers game I've ever watched.

You said it was NOT NEARLY AS DIRTY as some of the blows Flacco has incurred...meaning it was was dirty, just at a lesser degree. Thanks for agreeing!

Crafty devil. I thought it was dirty til I saw a replay. Uncalled for maybe, but I put it more on the refs for not blowing the whistle.

[K-Dog]

Dirty hit does NOT equate dirty player.

[mg90]

Yup, all these guys committing personal fouls from that game need to watch it.

[Tenacious Faulker]

If you thought that was dirty, you haven't watched many Ravens-Steelers games and three of Pittsburgh's players who defined the meaning of the word "dirty", which is why the Pittsburgh Post/Gazette article

lacks credibility. It was a cheap shot and it was incredibly stupid, but it was not nearly as dirty as some of the blows Joe Flacco has incurred w/o penalty. Besides, football is a game where the so-called "bullies" usually win and the finesse teams don't. Put your shades back on - you'll see the world more clearly!

^^^^This.

It wasn;t a dirty hit.  It wasn;t late since the whistle hadn;t been blown.  He his Blount in legal strike zone - his hip more padding than his back, thighs or knees.  "Judgement" on hit was a question, but again, no whistle until after his hit.  That's on the refs who were awful all game anyway.  Players a trained to wait/react to the whistle, not always to think.  Suggs is like a watch dog who bit a prowler and got punished for it.

 

NFL needs to do better by its rules, it rulings and its punitive system.

[ravensdfan]

And quite frankly, this could be said about any NFL fan base. But not everyone is as honest as you. Respect. 

So have you removed your shades? Care to comment on what the Steelers' players got away with? Like grabbing Flacco's head when he's on his butt and ripping off his helmet? Or the late hit on Flacco that was called but not fined? 

 

Or your former dirty to the death player Hines Ward? 

 

I'm thinking not. Pot talking crap at the kettle methinks.

[gabrielgrissom]

WOW!!!!!! Last place in the AFC north. Does anyone here think this might be the loss that lights a fire under their cheeks?

Harbs needs a new t-shirt that just reads URGENCY!!!

i know this is late but when is the last time the it looked like we were urgent. Last year we were 3 and 4 coming out of a bye week and wet the bed and fell on our face to the browns. This team will show fire on the field but they normally wont have a sense of urgency.

[gabrielgrissom]

no, torrey can't run routes, beat press, has inconsistent hands, doesn't fight, doesn't come back to the ball, doesn't track deep bombs all that well.

Probably missed something.

Which gives one on one coverage to OD, Crockett, Forsett, And Kamar.