Official Vent Thread Steelers

[Tank 92]

I like how the Steelers dig James Harrison out of retirement and our Oline just immediately plays scared of him like its 2008-2010 all over again and not like he's 37.  The fact that the left side couldn't pick up simple stunts and loops and play with the same intensity as a 37 year old in a rivalry game is truly pathetic.

 

 

Harrison played like his hair was on fire. Can't blame that on anyone being scared or screwing up. Whether he's 37 or 57, dude had a career game.

[GrimCoconut]

All with ya.  However, Cincy has won 9 of 10 at home against the Browns. So, that is a sure bet. Give Pitts the win at the Jets. We have to win 10 to get a shot.  This week and all remaining home games (4 0f 7).     We need a wake up call and different game tempo. Joe had got to go on a different mission. Put Jus and Daniels in position to assist when Joe screws up. 

I'm not sure the Browns have looked this good, though. I know what you're saying, but it is entirely possible the Bengals could go 3-3 and split the Browns and get swept by the Steelers, who could very well go 4-2 in the division at this point. 

[stampedehero]

You guys already proved that 2 years ago. 

Wait a minute.  You have a Hines Ward avatar. Why???? We all dismiss Hines Ward. What is the reason for his picture?

[GrimCoconut]

Harrison played like his hair was on fire. Can't blame that on anyone being scared or screwing up. Whether he's 37 or 57, dude had a career game.

For as bad as Harrison is and the stuff he has done in the past, the guy was really humble last night. Not sure anyone heard what he said, but he chalked up his success to God and stuff. I have a lot of respect for how he acted after the game, at least in that moment. I heard some of his other comments, such as what he said about Suggs, and I'm sure he saw the hit at live speed. I honestly didn't like the way the hit looked at live speed, either, but when it replayed, I felt much better about it. 

[GrimCoconut]

Wait a minute.  You have a Hines Ward avatar. Why???? We all dismiss Hines Ward. What is the reason for his picture?

He's a Steelers fan. 

[Wholelottahaloti]

The game turned against us on Taliaferro's fumble. 

 

Once the pass rush wore out, our secondary was exposed.  No one was immune, even Ladarius Webb was horrific.  He got burned over the top and he was repeatedly pushed off the ball by Antonio Brown with no call.  Webb was called for non-existent pass interference and was flailing often that game. 

 

The officiating was nauseating. But it's come to this. NFL officials view Defense as an evil component of the game and all judgment calls are resolved against the Defense.  This hurts Baltimore because our Offense is not Elite. Baltimore wins with hard nosed Defense and its becoming impossible to play hard nosed Defense in this league.

 

Our O-line was terrible. The best its been was when both Monroe and Osmele were out. Harbaugh needs to look close at Monroe.

 

We don't have a centurion at Safety to guard the city gate.

 

Joe Flacco really has difficulty progressing through his reads, though how do you do that when the dogs are nipping at your heels immediately after the snap.

 

Honestly, the more I watch this Referee dominance  of the game evolve the more I appreciate Baseball. It was fun to watch the Orioles execute the fundamentals without the umpire interfering. You know what I'm saying?

[stampedehero]

I'm not sure the Browns have looked this good, though. I know what you're saying, but it is entirely possible the Bengals could go 3-3 and split the Browns and get swept by the Steelers, who could very well go 4-2 in the division at this point. 

True.  However, Watching the Steelers gain the advantage is like having an older brother knuckle his younger brothers' head. The Steelers are the most dangerous team in our division. They got the Joe Green inspiration. Watch, they will bring back more legends at home games to get all the citizens in thrill mode.  I hope its not a repeat of '08   

[GrimCoconut]

True.  However, Watching the Steelers gain the advantage is like having an older brother knuckle his younger brothers' head. The Steelers are the most dangerous team in our division. They got the Joe Green inspiration. Watch, they will bring back more legends at home games to get all the citizens in thrill mode.  I hope its not a repeat of '08   

The Steelers always play us tough. It's never been easy, even when they had Batch playing QB. That's why I wasn't commenting much this week, because I knew when I saw the posts saying we would win by double digits (I know someone said that) they were just totally off-base. It's so hard to sweep the Steelers. They are a very tough team to sweep, so I knew that wasn't likely to happen and even alluded to it in a post of mine and just disappeared for the week. The Steelers could be 0-14 and have to play us for two games, and they would play their best football ever for those two games. That's how it is. Even Todd Haley doesn't like us. Not sure anyone remembers, but he complained about us running up the score a couple years ago when we played his Chiefs.

 

There's a lot of a bad blood between these teams from top to bottom. I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers lost to the Jets this week. It really wouldn't surprise me. It happens. Teams get hot and then lose. This it the NFL. That's not necessarily directed at you. Just a comment on how people need realistic expectations and it is hard to win consistently in this league. 

[Tank 92]

For as bad as Harrison is and the stuff he has done in the past, the guy was really humble last night. Not sure anyone heard what he said, but he chalked up his success to God and stuff. I have a lot of respect for how he acted after the game, at least in that moment. I heard some of his other comments, such as what he said about Suggs, and I'm sure he saw the hit at live speed. I honestly didn't like the way the hit looked at live speed, either, but when it replayed, I felt much better about it. 

 

 

Yeah, he did seem to act like a different person, even in game he showed some class. Guess even the worst can change.

[stampedehero]

The Steelers always play us tough. It's never been easy, even when they had Batch playing QB. That's why I wasn't commenting much this week, because I knew when I saw the posts saying we would win by double digits (I know someone said that) they were just totally off-base. It's so hard to sweep the Steelers. They are a very tough team to sweep, so I knew that wasn't likely to happen and even alluded to it in a post of mine and just disappeared for the week. The Steelers could be 0-14 and have to play us for two games, and they would play their best football ever for those two games. That's how it is. Even Todd Haley doesn't like us. Not sure anyone remembers, but he complained about us running up the score a couple years ago when we played his Chiefs.

 

There's a lot of a bad blood between these teams from top to bottom. I wouldn't be surprised if the Steelers lost to the Jets this week. It really wouldn't surprise me. It happens. Teams get hot and then lose. This it the NFL. That's not necessarily directed at you. Just a comment on how people need realistic expectations and it is hard to win consistently in this league. 

No,your comments are well said.  No direction against me.  The Steelers/Haley situation is quite clear. I also did not believe a double digit victory was ours and expected at least a competitive game with a 3 or 7 point differential.. 

[OLD SCHOOL SMASH BALL]

I am really disappointed in the Offensive minds and the lack of counter moves to what LeBeau was throwing at us. I expect mire frim Kubes and Joe. And why cant we establish the run and stick to it so play action works

[SteelerEmpire]

Yet another good game to all my Ravens friends.

 

The entertainment value of this match-up has been unique as usual. Don't know of any other NFL game where more "fouls" (if you will) are allowed and not penalized as much. 

 

Things went the Steelers way this time around but like coach Harbaugh said, we still have 7 games left... so anything is possible. Just remember the Steelers were down in the cellar just a few short weeks ago. Most fans thought, even Snoop Dogg, that the season was already over... so things could turn around quick, and it's not over til its over. 

 

I (and 'many' fans) still don't know if this Steeler squad is really serious or not, but only hard evidence counts.

 

As far as the Ravens, I have a few critiques about the team based on last night's, and previous, performances.

 

- Penalties / losing the kool. This was an issue for both squads, but "way" more for the Ravens. You never know what set of Refs your getting in a game, so come in expecting the worst... and play like it.

 

- Flacco "seems" too concerned about the opponents pass rush, AND throws up too many "air balls" to avoid a sack.   Looking at the pass rush makes you miss open receivers. Throwing away a pass that lands in the middle of the field greatly increases the likelihood of a pic... throw out of bounds.  

 

- Left side of the O-line. That absolutely "must" be fixed. No questions asked and no grey areas. 

 

- CB Smith is not the whole defense. WAY too much emphasis here. One player should never make a defense (a QB can make an offense tho).  

 

Just my observations. Keep keepin it real AFC North !!! 

[Ravens1991]

I'm tired of people complaining about Suggs hit as "dirty" maybe unnecessary but a proper form tackle on a ball carrier isn't dirty at all.

Also what was Anthony Levine doing letting a punter push him back at least 10 feet on that extra point. You need to stick up for yourself against a punter and body slam his butt.

[baroquenspirit]

Wait a minute.  You have a Hines Ward avatar. Why???? We all dismiss Hines Ward. What is the reason for his picture?

: - ) ….you dismiss Hines just like Suggs did in his pre-game interview…by saying "I hate you but I respect you. You would have made a great Raven." :-)

[baroquenspirit]

I'm tired of people complaining about Suggs hit as "dirty" maybe unnecessary but a proper form tackle on a ball carrier isn't dirty at all.

Also what was Anthony Levine doing letting a punter push him back at least 10 feet on that extra point. You need to stick up for yourself against a punter and body slam his butt.

I can't read the man's mind…but what happened on the field, especially in the context of how chippy that game was…it isn't a stretch to say it was a "dirty" hit.  It certainly had the potential to end a fellow athletes season, and perhaps his career. But ask yourself…if James Harrison does that to Forsett, are you giving him the benefit of the doubt? Are you "tired" of all the people saying it was dirty, or would you be one of them? Think about it before you answer...

[Petteri Moilanen]

On another note, we could have lost the way the niners did.... A QB fumble with seconds left in the game, for the win, on the one yard line....I don't think our $120M QB has EVER done something like that.....

 

That was pretty awful. I had a bet going on and I was going to get 6/6, but then SF fumbled. After that I was hoping that the Ravens win but we all know how that went...

[KDUBB44]

In all honesty, steelers are balling out right now. Best we can hope for is second place

[codizzle]

Watch that Rob Gronkowski catch and ask yourself honestly if any raven receiver in ravens history could make that catch outside of heap and boldin

[stampedehero]

: - ) ….you dismiss Hines just like Suggs did in his pre-game interview…by saying "I hate you but I respect you. You would have made a great Raven." :-)

Ah I see.  Place the picture of the opposition for inspiration   How about choosing Keisel instead. He at least suppported us in the 012 SB and he is on the current roster.  Objectively and honestly, I respect Keisel, Miller and Roethlisberger. 

[stampedehero]

In all honesty, steelers are balling out right now. Best we can hope for is second place

They are on fire and are now handed a torch as they enter North Jersey and the Jets

[stampedehero]

I'm tired of people complaining about Suggs hit as "dirty" maybe unnecessary but a proper form tackle on a ball carrier isn't dirty at all.

Also what was Anthony Levine doing letting a punter push him back at least 10 feet on that extra point. You need to stick up for yourself against a punter and body slam his butt.

Yea  At least Suggs tries to tackle.  He should give a clinique to our secondary one day this week.

[Guy Who Likes The Ravens]

Easily the most frustrating loss thus far. I thought Forsett should have been utilized a lot more than he was. Taliaferro should not have been getting the amount of touches that he was getting. We also should have utilized the shotgun formation more often. Defensively...we were just awful. No pressure and a lack of quality secondary players is not a good combination. We should have at least used press coverage to slow down their WRs and to buy our pass rush some time to get to Rothlisberger. The loss of Jimmy Smith was definitely felt, not only in this loss, but the Bengals loss as well. Now, QB play, I'm usually a big Flacco supporter, but he looked awful this game. That being said, I don't think that the oline being unable to figure out a simple blitz variation and the WRs being unable to break from their coverage against a sub-par secondary did him any favors. 

 

Secondary- F

Linebackers- C

Dline- B-

 

Oline- F

Receivers- D+

Running Backs- B-

Quarterback- D

 

Special Teams- A 

[stampedehero]

The game turned against us on Taliaferro's fumble. 

 

Once the pass rush wore out, our secondary was exposed.  No one was immune, even Ladarius Webb was horrific.  He got burned over the top and he was repeatedly pushed off the ball by Antonio Brown with no call.  Webb was called for non-existent pass interference and was flailing often that game. 

 

The officiating was nauseating. But it's come to this. NFL officials view Defense as an evil component of the game and all judgment calls are resolved against the Defense.  This hurts Baltimore because our Offense is not Elite. Baltimore wins with hard nosed Defense and its becoming impossible to play hard nosed Defense in this league.

 

Our O-line was terrible. The best its been was when both Monroe and Osmele were out. Harbaugh needs to look close at Monroe.

 

We don't have a centurion at Safety to guard the city gate.

 

Joe Flacco really has difficulty progressing through his reads, though how do you do that when the dogs are nipping at your heels immediately after the snap.

 

Honestly, the more I watch this Referee dominance  of the game evolve the more I appreciate Baseball. It was fun to watch the Orioles execute the fundamentals without the umpire interfering. You know what I'm saying?

Well said for your first post. Keep up the good work

[stampedehero]

I'm tired of people complaining about Suggs hit as "dirty" maybe unnecessary but a proper form tackle on a ball carrier isn't dirty at all.

Also what was Anthony Levine doing letting a punter push him back at least 10 feet on that extra point. You need to stick up for yourself against a punter and body slam his butt.

Yea punters wash everyones cars after the game.. lol 

[Tank 92]

The game turned against us on Taliaferro's fumble. 

 

Once the pass rush wore out, our secondary was exposed.  No one was immune, even Ladarius Webb was horrific.  He got burned over the top and he was repeatedly pushed off the ball by Antonio Brown with no call.  Webb was called for non-existent pass interference and was flailing often that game. 

 

The officiating was nauseating. But it's come to this. NFL officials view Defense as an evil component of the game and all judgment calls are resolved against the Defense.  This hurts Baltimore because our Offense is not Elite. Baltimore wins with hard nosed Defense and its becoming impossible to play hard nosed Defense in this league.

 

Our O-line was terrible. The best its been was when both Monroe and Osmele were out. Harbaugh needs to look close at Monroe.

 

We don't have a centurion at Safety to guard the city gate.

 

Joe Flacco really has difficulty progressing through his reads, though how do you do that when the dogs are nipping at your heels immediately after the snap.

 

Honestly, the more I watch this Referee dominance  of the game evolve the more I appreciate Baseball. It was fun to watch the Orioles execute the fundamentals without the umpire interfering. You know what I'm saying?

Hey! Did I give you permission to use my old(almost) screen name? lol

Good post. And if Angelos weren't the owner I would be full bore with the O's.

[DWplayer]

Where or how did you read "conspiracy theory"? Where did I say the "NFL and refs are against the Ravens"? What I said was that there was an obvious bias to the squealers in the way the game was called last night. period. I'm sure if you were honest with yourself you would say the same. 

When it comes down to it the term "conspiracy" is simply premeditated "bias". Either way, what you are saying is that the refs intentionally called more penalties in favor of the Steelers, - intentionally giving the Steelers a much better chance to win.

And being honest with yourself, you really believe this?

So then there had to have been some sort of meeting or at least a previous agreement made between each member of the officiating crew, and probably the NFL for matter, that whenever the opportunity presents itself to call a penalty or review a call that goes against the Ravens.

But when the Ravens crushed the Steelers in week 2 no such arrangement was in place.

I'm going to be honest with myself,...I don't think so.

[757RavensFan]

Mili....

Another member pointed this out to me...  He said... We beat the Steelers in Baltimore by 20 in September.  They beat us in Pittsburgh in November by 20...  It's not the end of the world... 

 

And while I might agree that all teams are banged up around this time, there aren't many that are missing the "key" players that we are.  I.E., the worst thing that could have happened was to lose Jimmy last week.  We knew our back end was going to get gashed by the teams that we had to play.....  On a happier note, both Will Hill and Matt Elam had decent nights last night, considering.

 

I always try to find the silver lining....  and yes, truth be told, there always is one....  We have lots of things to fix.  And so do other teams....  and there are 7 more games left.  We have all but concluded our AFC North romp...  with only Cleveland the very last game.  We get to sit back and watch them play each other...  Meanwhile....  We have the Dolphins, who exposed San Diego, who we have as well....  We have the Titans and we have the Saints, that haven't looked great either. 

 

Good news is there is still time...  And the other AFC North teams, as they play each other????  One of them will have to lose each time they play as well.

 

 

The problem w/ that is, you're supposed to be MUCH BETTER in November than you were in Sept. 

[jaege]

It wasn't Joe that turned the ball over TWICE either

 

 

 

I never said it was Joe that turned it over twice, but he did turn it over once. And that by pulling a completely boneheaded move. The entire offense was lackluster, not that the defense was much better.

[BisesiBrandon]

all I can say is our secondary is bad lol

[Drew P]

We keep hearing for years that there is a commitment to the run when there clearly is none. It seems the run is merely a cheap ploy so we can do what we really want to do.

if there was a commitment, you would see us running the ball on 3rd and 3/4 because we believe that we can.

 

Im all for it or at least attempting to use juice in to block rather than kick out and try creating match ups that they only use sparingly...they did Leach like that last year sat him on the sideline and wondered why the yards werent there