Next up : Titans

[Militant X 1]

That wasn't a real problem since it at least sort of relates to the upcoming game. We had a hijack that has been removed.

 

Lol!  Cool M3.

 

So, one play proves more than his numbers all season? If we play 2 games against any qb, I could say, "he'll throw us the ball", and I'd probably be right at least once, especially if he got hurried and hit that many times. Flacco also threw a perfect, 35 yd td against the blitz. Cherry picking one play that suits your purpose doesn't prove anything.

 

Man, go back and re-read the entire conversation!  You have missed the point of that post entirely!  Smh!

 

i find it hard to believe he hasn't those stats and a 92.1 rating. That quote you used may not have been correct, whereas the 92.1 QB rating and 2 to 1 TD ratio came from espn.

If you also judging a QB on yards when under pressure I duno what to tell you.get the ball out, avoiding a sack and interception is the main aimed if someone is standing in your face, not the amount of yards you get.

 

That quote came from Mark Viviano from WJZ TV-Baltimore so now; you are saying his information about Flacco under pressure is inaccurate opposed to accepting it?

[arnie_uk]

Lol! Cool M3.

Man, go back and re-read the entire conversation! You have missed the point of that post entirely! Smh!

That quote came from Mark Viviano from WJZ TV-Baltimore so now; you are saying his information about Flacco under pressure is inaccurate opposed to accepting it?

it doesn't tie in with a 92.1 qb rating under pressure unless flacco is about 30th out of 32 in that regard as well, which I'd find hard to belive

[arnie_uk]

Unless you haven't realized, 92.1QB ratings isn't all that impressive in 2014. With the way passing games has evolved w/ defense restrictions, his stats doesn't even beat Hoyer's/Sanchez stats.

If you want to argue flacco's 'stats' instead of the baseless 'he wins games' theory(which seems to slowly being debunked w/ a overall team not performing as high as it use to) then compare his stats with other QBs.

Flacco isn't any better than a street QB you pick up @offseason.

I'm almost considering renewing me pff account to get that stats on qbs versus pressure just to prove you wrong. 92 under pressure is a excellent mark

[Ravenseconbeast]

 

That quote came from Mark Viviano from WJZ TV-Baltimore so now; you are saying his information about Flacco under pressure is inaccurate opposed to accepting it?

 

Yup heard it from WJZ from Viviano also.  

Just from the eye test, you can tell if you blitz Flacco, more likely than not, the opposing team will feast on it than having them pay a price.

[K-Dog]

Titans was the home loss! I was there Joe's rookie year and had my "Wacko for Flacco" sign in hand.

(Man I hated that slogan.)

Yup.

That was it....

 

Oooooooh it was the Titans.

Jeez I hope thats not the x-factor ......

 

Now I am all worried...

[RavensBaltimore]

Lol!  Cool M3.

 

 

Man, go back and re-read the entire conversation!  You have missed the point of that post entirely!  Smh!

 

 

That quote came from Mark Viviano from WJZ TV-Baltimore so now; you are saying his information about Flacco under pressure is inaccurate opposed to accepting it?

Just to let everyone know, there are no official stats for a qb when blitzed, so different sources will have different numbers, just like dropped passes. I got my numbers from espn splits, and they have since updated Flacco's qb rating against the blitz to 89.4, 8tds, 4ints, and he is averaging 7.51 yds/attempt, which is actually very good. Other sources may have different numbers, but I would assume espn.com is pretty credible. http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/splits/_/id/11252/joe-flacco

 

One thing that none of the stats take into account is that the qb isn't out there by himself. In week one, Flacco got smashed by a blitzing Burfict and threw a perfect pass that went through Jacoby's arms that could have been a td. Sunday night, Flacco got blitzed and threw a pass that hit Torrey in the chestpad and went through his arms in the endzone. He also threw a perfect deep pass down the sideline to Jacoby against a blitz in Cleveland, and he dropped it. That's 3 potential tds and more than 100 yds lost to dropped passes, and the Ravens don't have a single receiver that deters teams from leaving them in single coverage. Taking all that into consideration, I don't think many qbs could do any better in Flacco's situation.

[DomMcRaven]

Regardless of our performance, I'm curious to see what kind of gameplan Harbs and Pees has for our secondary during our BYE week in order to prepare for our (hopefully) playoff push....

[PoeDinkum]

Regardless of our performance, I'm curious to see what kind of gameplan Harbs and Pees has for our secondary during our BYE week in order to prepare for our (hopefully) playoff push....

You hit the nail on the head. I too am curious how this team gets coached up moving forward. Thus far, I place more of the blame on the players, but kinda like the o-line last year it is very difficult to prove exactly how much the talent is responsible for failing vs. the lack of coaching.

[DomMcRaven]

You hit the nail on the head. I too am curious how this team gets coached up moving forward. Thus far, I place more of the blame on the players, but kinda like the o-line last year it is very difficult to prove exactly how much the talent is responsible for failing vs. the lack of coaching.

This to me should tell me a lot about Pees moving forward.

[HoldingCall]

This to me should tell me a lot about Pees moving forward.

Just like the O-Line last season it can be difficult to know whether the problem is coaching, players, or both without being at practice.

[1/28/01]

I love the never-ending Flacco debates. One side doesnt view certain stats and the other side doesnt care about another series of stats.

[1/28/01]

Game thread up. Not getting in first.

[52520Andrew]

Remembering all the past Titans games battles, I am starting to get nervous about this one. Hopefully we remember what happened in 2008(the one here) and 2011.

[Militant X 1]

I love the never-ending Flacco debates. One side doesnt view certain stats and the other side doesnt care about another series of stats.

Some can't accept truth!

[ravens533]

 

Regardless of our performance, I'm curious to see what kind of gameplan Harbs and Pees has for our secondary during our BYE week in order to prepare for our (hopefully) playoff push....

I would think that game plans involving the secondary would fall more to Spagnuolo and Pees than to Harbs. It is Spagnuolo's job to get the guys coached up for their positions and Pees to design plays that will negatively effect our opponent. Remember Harbs is not a micro manager. I too will be watching both this game against the Titans and New Orleans to see how all that progresses. Hopefully it will all come together. Won't hold my breath but will hope. 

[Tank 92]

Some can't accept truth!

 

With all due respect Mili, I think you're wrong here. Throw out the stats(which can be helped or hindered by team mates) and give it the eye test. Watching Flacco you can see he generally remains calm under pressure and if slammed, dusts himself off and stands in there again. If you want evidence of a QB that is easily rattled by pressure, watch the "mighty" tommy. That dude folds like a wet paper bag when it looks like he will be hit and when he does get hit, acts like it 's some sort of affront to his presence. It's laughable to watch. 

 

While the results haven't always been there when Joe is under pressure, I think he is better than many at handling it.

[monkeycatt]

With all due respect Mili, I think you're wrong here. Throw out the stats(which can be helped or hindered by team mates) and give it the eye test. Watching Flacco you can see he generally remains calm under pressure and if slammed, dusts himself off and stands in there again. If you want evidence of a QB that is easily rattled by pressure, watch the "mighty" tommy. That dude folds like a wet paper bag when it looks like he will be hit and when he does get hit, acts like it 's some sort of affront to his presence. It's laughable to watch. 

 

While the results haven't always been there when Joe is under pressure, I think he is better than many at handling it.

Cutler and Rivers also spring to mind when talking of easily-rattled QB'S.  their numbers fall dramatically as sacks and hits stack up.  thier int's also rise. 

[codizzle]

With all due respect Mili, I think you're wrong here. Throw out the stats(which can be helped or hindered by team mates) and give it the eye test. Watching Flacco you can see he generally remains calm under pressure and if slammed, dusts himself off and stands in there again. If you want evidence of a QB that is easily rattled by pressure, watch the "mighty" tommy. That dude folds like a wet paper bag when it looks like he will be hit and when he does get hit, acts like it 's some sort of affront to his presence. It's laughable to watch.

While the results haven't always been there when Joe is under pressure, I think he is better than many at handling it.

Joe is the definition of a QB that stays cool under pressure

Him and Big Ben are the most proven there easily

[Mick0311]

Joe is the definition of a QB that stays cool under pressure

Him and Big Ben are the most proven there easily

 

I agree, and I think there is a difference between good under pressure, and pocket presence.  I think that is his Achilles Heel.  Sometimes his pocket presence and pre-snap reads on pressure are pretty bad.  That's why, when he is kept upright, he can be lethal.  

[codizzle]

I agree, and I think there is a difference between good under pressure, and pocket presence. I think that is his Achilles Heel. Sometimes his pocket presence and pre-snap reads on pressure are pretty bad. That's why, when he is kept upright, he can be lethal.

Agree 100% ... I feel as if he's always been told to trust his first/second/etc. progressions and look for the hot route etc if feeling pressure asap

Idk.. He definitely could be way better at blitz recognition but hey so could the vast majority of QB's

[Militant X 1]

With all due respect Mili, I think you're wrong here. Throw out the stats(which can be helped or hindered by team mates) and give it the eye test. Watching Flacco you can see he generally remains calm under pressure and if slammed, dusts himself off and stands in there again. If you want evidence of a QB that is easily rattled by pressure, watch the "mighty" tommy. That dude folds like a wet paper bag when it looks like he will be hit and when he does get hit, acts like it 's some sort of affront to his presence. It's laughable to watch. 

 

While the results haven't always been there when Joe is under pressure, I think he is better than many at handling it.

 

Tank, we all see player performances differently and could make a case for it.  I always believe my own eyes.  No stats needed!

[Tank 92]

Tank, we all see player performances differently and could make a case for it.  I always believe my own eyes.  No stats needed!

Fixed the neg.

Just don't know what you are seeing, Joe is a pretty cool customer.

[K-Dog]

Just don't know what you are seeing, Joe is a pretty cool customer.

There was a quote I herd or read recently about Flacco.

Some player from another team said something to the effect of. " You can never tell if Flacco is winning or getting blown out. He has the same face all the time. He cant be rattled "

Yeah that sounds cool to me.

[Militant X 1]

Fixed the neg.

Just don't know what you are seeing, Joe is a pretty cool customer.

 

Really Tank?  Lol!  See response below.....

 

There was a quote I herd or read recently about Flacco.

Some player from another team said something to the effect of. " You can never tell if Flacco is winning or getting blown out. He has the same face all the time. He cant be rattled "

Yeah that sounds cool to me.

 

I don't know about all of that "can't be rattled" stuff Dog.  Lol!

 

Ravens Unscripted:

 

Gerry Sanduski (On Flacco); "What's up with Joe Flacco?  Over the last 3 games he has 5 interceptions.  I mean, this is a team that wins when he doesn't throw interceptions, and usually loses when he does throw interceptions; so c'mon...he's in a slump!"

 

Garret Downing (On Flacco); "Yeah!  He is!  But, I think really what it comes down to; and we talk about this all of the time; sometimes when Joe goes through these kind of skids, we ask; "What's up with Joe Flacco what's wrong with him?"  We've been watching this guy for 7 years and it's a roller coaster ride a lot of times with him.  He'll have these games where he comes out against Tampa and he throws 5 TD's in 16 minutes and then....he still has some of these boneheaded throws like he did against the Steelers where he's trying to throw the ball away and you say; "What are you doing?"

 

Gerry Sanduski (On Flacco); "He said he was out of his mind!  (Mink in the background..."That's not what you like to hear!") This isn't the media saying this, it's not me saying this!  JOE SAID that he was out of his mind!"

 

^ Doesn't sound so cool to me!  If Joe himself said that he was "out of his mind" on a specific play that caused a turnover (and pressure will do that); why is it so hard for you cats to accept that?  I don't get it!  No harm in being truthful about it and you can still love the guy!  Lol!

 

Oh yeah!  Beat the Titans!  Go Ravens! 

[Tank 92]

Really Tank?  Lol!  See response below.....

 

 

I don't know about all of that "can't be rattled" stuff Dog.  Lol!

 

Ravens Unscripted:

 

Gerry Sanduski (On Flacco); "What's up with Joe Flacco?  Over the last 3 games he has 5 interceptions.  I mean, this is a team that wins when he doesn't throw interceptions, and usually loses when he does throw interceptions; so c'mon...he's in a slump!"

 

Garret Downing (On Flacco); "Yeah!  He is!  But, I think really what it comes down to; and we talk about this all of the time; sometimes when Joe goes through these kind of skids, we ask; "What's up with Joe Flacco what's wrong with him?"  We've been watching this guy for 7 years and it's a roller coaster ride a lot of times with him.  He'll have these games where he comes out against Tampa and he throws 5 TD's in 16 minutes and then....he still has some of these boneheaded throws like he did against the Steelers where he's trying to throw the ball away and you say; "What are you doing?"

 

Gerry Sanduski (On Flacco); "He said he was out of his mind!  (Mink in the background..."That's not what you like to hear!") This isn't the media saying this, it's not me saying this!  JOE SAID that he was out of his mind!"

 

^ Doesn't sound so cool to me!  If Joe himself said that he was "out of his mind" on a specific play that caused a turnover (and pressure will do that); why is it so hard for you cats to accept that?  I don't get it!  No harm in being truthful about it and you can still love the guy!  Lol!

 

 

eh, you can take a bunch of quotes out of context and make them say anything. Journalists make their $ writing things that stir the pot, it's just what they do!

 

Sometimes what looks like a bad throw is on the receiver. And if you watch any QB in every game they play you are going to see what appear to be "boneheaded" throws and plays. Manning, Rogers, Brees, ect., they all make what appear to be bad decisions at times. It's just the nature of the position, especially when chasing the score and trying to make things happen.

 

Flacco's disposition and demeanor remain constant no matter the situation. Getting "rattled" or "flustered" is not one of his weaknesses.

 

Anyway, let's send the titans back to tennsyltucky cryin'!

 

Go   

[K-Dog]

I was quoting someone else FWIW.

[K-Dog]

"Boneheaded"

What an interesting term.

Its hard for me to see from any literal sense how this is derogatory. I mean we all have bones in our heads.

Its a seriously funny visual to imagine what our heads would look like with out skulls.

Perhaps I should go find something to do. I recon I am a little too bored right now.

[Militant X 1]

eh, you can take a bunch of quotes out of context and make them say anything. Journalists make their $ writing things that stir the pot, it's just what they do!

 

Sometimes what looks like a bad throw is on the receiver. And if you watch any QB in every game they play you are going to see what appear to be "boneheaded" throws and plays. Manning, Rogers, Brees, ect., they all make what appear to be bad decisions at times. It's just the nature of the position, especially when chasing the score and trying to make things happen.

 

Flacco's disposition and demeanor remain constant no matter the situation. Getting "rattled" or "flustered" is not one of his weaknesses.

 

Anyway, let's send the titans back to tennsyltucky cryin'!

 

Go   

 

I noticed that you never addressed what Flacco said about himself being "out of his mind".  Why is that?  Hmmm.  Lol!

 

Go Ravens beat the Titans!!

 

I was quoting someone else FWIW.

 

I hear you Dog.  Lol!

[Tank 92]

I noticed that you never addressed what Flacco said about himself being "out of his mind".  Why is that?  Hmmm.  Lol!

 

 

 

He always takes the heat himself, as a good leader should. You'll never hear him throw a team mate under the bus.

[Tank 92]

"Boneheaded"

What an interesting term.

Its hard for me to see from any literal sense how this is derogatory. I mean we all have bones in our heads.

Its a seriously funny visual to imagine what our heads would look like with out skulls.

Perhaps I should go find something to do. I recon I am a little too bored right now.

 

 

as in all bone and no grey matter.  lol