Orioles Off-Season 2014-2015

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[Gordo52]

Thanks for the memories. He'll surely be missed.

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I won't cry until I see our lineup for next season and see a different RF

And then again when that RF makes an error cause I don't know what an error from RF looks like

[Moderator 3]

We'll miss you Nick, but $44 million is a bit much for a slow guy with no power. We're going to need a new lead-off, though.

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https://twitter.com/zbritton/status/540301700649979905

[Gordo52]

I won't cry until I see our lineup for next season and see a different RF

And then again when that RF makes an error cause I don't know what an error from RF looks like

Don't worry! We have De Aza & Lough!!!!!

[Gordo52]

Sorry though, codizzle. I know he was your boy and you'll probably need a new jersey now.

It makes me feel sick too.

[Gordo52]

Hopefully there's a silver lining to all of this....

Very anxious to see where our money goes. Even though it's still unlikely, I wonder if we're back in the mix for Miller?

[Gordo52]

Just saw a photo already made of him in a Braves uni.... Ugh

I hope Nick tears it up and makes us look stupid for being caught up over a 4th year and 12 million. .....Am I being naive? I'm saying, It's rare to see any players play up to their contract. Why couldn't we just bite the freaking bullet and make him an oriole for life?

[cobrajet]

Hopefully there's a silver lining to all of this....

Very anxious to see where our money goes. Even though it's still unlikely, I wonder if we're back in the mix for Miller?

I hope so. I would be OK with losing Cruz and Markakis if we retained Andrew Miller. I would pay him closer money, no offense to Zach Britton - I love the guy, but IMHO Miller could be the best relief pitcher in MLB.

[cursona pirate]

Well thats 2 huge hitters we lost. We have done no hitter moves. I mean we get wieters but yeah we need somebody.

[rmw10]

Just saw a photo already made of him in a Braves uni.... Ugh

I hope Nick tears it up and makes us look stupid for being caught up over a 4th year and 12 million. .....Am I being naive? I'm saying, It's rare to see any players play up to their contract. Why couldn't we just bite the freaking bullet and make him an oriole for life?

 

Sometimes you have to take the sentimentality out of it, and that's what Duquette did.  The Braves are going to hate that contract in a couple of years.  It's hard to see a fan favorite leave, but overpaying a guy isn't a good option either.

[Gordo52]

Sometimes you have to take the sentimentality out of it, and that's what Duquette did. The Braves are going to hate that contract in a couple of years. It's hard to see a fan favorite leave, but overpaying a guy isn't a good option either.

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but I think we'll end up regretting it

[Pats]

Holy fire sale everyones leaving the O's, cruz, markaksis. I hope they have some new bats lined up in free agency since they surely anticipated well in advance contracts weren't being renewed.

[rmw10]

I'll eat crow if I'm wrong but I think we'll end up regretting it

 

I don't.  No disrespect to Markakis, but he's headed toward being a slap hitter without speed.

[ravensnick]

We'll miss you Nick, but $44 million is a bit much for a slow guy with no power. We're going to need a new lead-off, though.

I'm not worried about the money but more about the team. He'll fade fter about one or two more years. I'd give him 3 years $33 million in a heartbeat. But, since baseball money is all guaranteed, he's gotta take the extra 11 million.

[ravensnick]

I think we lead older Cruz and Markakis walk to keep three of Miller, Weiters, Davis, and Tillman in the future.

[Moderator 3]

Nick has to share some of the "blame" in this. The Orioles were willing to guarantee $33 million, which would have put him well over $100 million from the organization. Did he really NEED another year guaranteed? He could have been an Oriole for life if he wanted.

[H8R]

Holy fire sale everyones leaving the O's, cruz, markaksis. I hope they have some new bats lined up in free agency since they surely anticipated well in advance contracts weren't being renewed.

Fire sale? lol. Not even close. These guys were FA's. Dariel Alverez will be up next year I would guess. I'm also interested in Rasmus or Morse, both have pop... Rasmus has speed, neither are as durable as The Greek... But not many are. We also need a legit lead-off.

If healthy the line-up stacks like this:

De Aza RF

Machado 3B

Jones CF

Davis 1B

Pearce LF

Young DH

Wieters C

Hardy SS

Schoop 2B

[H8R]

Nick has to share some of the "blame" in this. The Orioles were willing to guarantee $33 million, which would have put him well over $100 million from the organization. Did he really NEED another year guaranteed? He could have been an Oriole for life if he wanted.

Yup... Adios. Wasn't a big fan of him anyhow , especially not for 11 mil per. I'm glad we didn't do 4 years.

[H8R]

I'm not worried about the money but more about the team. He'll fade fter about one or two more years. I'd give him 3 years $33 million in a heartbeat. But, since baseball money is all guaranteed, he's gotta take the extra 11 million.

Or ... If he was still producing at a high level in year 4, he could sign another deal and likely contract values would be higher 3 years from now.

[H8R]

This is a great analysis if you ask me, of course this is before he signed with the Bravos:

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/what-are-we-missing-about-nick-markakis/

[FerrariFan87]

Cruz and Markakis gone. Miller on his way to the Yankees. This has been one heck of an offseason by the "Executive of the Year."

[rmw10]

Cruz and Markakis gone. Miller on his way to the Yankees. This has been one heck of an offseason by the "Executive of the Year."

 

To be fair, a lot of people said the same thing last year, and then we found a bargain in Cruz at the beginning of spring training.  Baseball is a long offseason.  It may not look good now but I suggest giving it time.

[Guest I-70WestRaven]

So far this off season is headed in the wrong direction. Dan better have a real good plan for season. I hope!

[1/28/01]

Hey, at least Angelos has spent a few million (just that I know of) marketing for a tort case that I am involved in and he's produced ZERO qualified cases. Way to go, bud!

How he become wealthy is beyond me...

[cobrajet]

Cruz and Markakis gone. Miller on his way to the Yankees. This has been one heck of an offseason by the "Executive of the Year."

If somehow we found a way to keep Miller I would be totally happy with this off-season.

[ravensnick]

Or ... If he was still producing at a high level in year 4, he could sign another deal and likely contract values would be higher 3 years from now.

That's true too. But there that neck injury thing that popped up.

[ravensnick]

If somehow we found a way to keep Miller I would be totally happy with this off-season.

Thats what I've been telling all my friends. Calm down, this means we can keep guys like Miller and maybe get Kemp.

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Thats what I've been telling all my friends. Calm down, this means we can keep guys like Miller and maybe get Kemp.

No chance we keep miller.. I bet we aren't even seriously trying to resign him