JJ is not Dynomite

[rmcjacket23]

Is there any chance if Marlon is healthy the Ravens actually make Jacoby a healthy scratch for this game. I don't know if the Ravens feel confident with campanaro at kick or punt returner but I know he can at least catch punts and kicks. After seeing that catch by camp I'd love to see him get more playing time. Especially with Kubiak's offense there isn't necessarily that need for 2 major deep threats, and with what Steve Smith has done he essentially has provided a deep threat this year along with Torrey. I'd much rather have a guy in there who can be another dependable 3rd down/slot threat than an undependable receiver who has been struggling in the return game as well save for a good return last week. I don't want to say i've given up but sometimes when something is taken away from you, you come back that much harder. Maybe thats what Jacoby needs

I think Camp would be more of a punt returner than a kickoff returner, as the two require somewhat different skill sets.

 

As it were, when Marlon is back healthy, Camp likely goes back to being a weekly inactive.

[757RavensFan]

Send Jacoby long. He is not a 3rd down possession reciever .I cringe when we throw to him on 3rd down.

 

Aiken and Marlon both have much better hands .

 

For third down and 5 , I say Smith Sr,Daniels,Torrey,Aiken ,Camp,Marlon,Jacoby in roughly that order.

 

I would have Juice ahead of Jacoby and after watching him play Sunday, I would put Crockett Gilmore ahead of him as well.

[Grapple Raven]

No where did I use the term impressive.  I used "clutch" because we needed those yards in that game to at least have the chance at a play in the end zone. My point was that everyone was saying that Jacoby was in a slump...well, he made a play to perhaps help towards getting out of that slump.  He made a play! It happened to be when we needed one. Simple!
 
I don't understand why people are so willing to rail against players heads that clearly are devoted to this team, practice and work their butts off for the team, the fans and the community. Every player goes through these kind of things if they have a long enough career. But I'm not the kind of person to give up on any player that hasn't given up on us. I think most fans would agree that Jacoby wants to succeed. Everyone deserves a chance to right themselves.  It certainly isn't like any of our wide receivers haven't been through the same thing at points during this season, and I've supported them as well.

 

Rather than magnifying every little imperfection, it might help to ease the pressure with a little fan support. That is just  the way I choose to view it.  Negativity only breeds more negativity. You can catch a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, just sayin'!  Fan support may just be what he needs to get over the slump.

[GrimCoconut]

No where did I use the term impressive. I used "clutch" because we needed those yards in that game to at least have the chance at a play in the end zone. My point was that everyone was saying that Jacoby was in a slump...well, he made a play to perhaps help towards getting out of that slump. He made a play! It happened to be when we needed one. Simple!

I don't understand why people are so willing to rail against players heads that clearly are devoted to this team, practice and work their butts off for the team, the fans and the community. Every player goes through these kind of things if they have a long enough career. But I'm not the kind of person to give up on any player that hasn't given up on us. I think most fans would agree that Jacoby wants to succeed. Everyone deserves a chance to right themselves. It certainly isn't like any of our wide receivers haven't been through the same thing at points during this season, and I've supported them as well.

Rather than magnifying every little imperfection, it might help to ease the pressure with a little fan support. That is just the way I choose to view it. Negativity only breeds more negativity. You can catch a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, just sayin'! Fan support may just be what he needs to get over the slump.

I know where you're going with this and I'm not really arguing. I do what to say that I really hope Jones doesn't need fan support. Players really shouldn't need the fans to lean on during times when they struggle.

I can't speak for anyone but myself, but I'm worried to be honest. These concerns come from the fact that Jones is looking like the player he was in Houston, not the one he became here. Coincidentally, his old coach is here and he's returned to his old form recently.

I think what has people concerned more than anything is that he's been through these struggles before. It's nothing new to him, and at thirty, I'm not sure he's trending up anymore.

[AsianRice]

I don't know about every1 else, but I know Jacoby is Ravens for life; right now, he isn't playing up to the expectation, but once he gets it, he will be the difference for our playoff race or even SB race.

 

I do agree after he was getting injured by Trawick, his mental game isn't there for him.  He just needs a bit more time to regain his mojo.  He is worth the wait...u hear me Jacoby!?

[Grapple Raven]

Lol, I wasn't going anywhere in particular.  I guess I'm just tired of all the negativity.  Everyone could use support during trying times or personal struggles, no matter where it comes from.  I believe Jacoby will bounce back, and I truly hope he does.  I was just stating how I feel Grim, no problem!  I just don't agree, but that is okay, its what makes the world go 'round.

[GrimCoconut]

Everyone could use support during trying times or personal struggles, no matter where it comes from.  I believe Jacoby will bounce back, and I truly hope he does.  I was just stating how I feel Grim, no problem!  I just don't agree, but that is okay, its what makes the world go 'round.

I hear you. I can respect that opinion. No issue on my part with not agreeing! I have no problem with someone disagreeing and I'm not about to lecture you on why I am right! Lol. Way too much of that going around here. 

 

But hey! I'll tell you this--I hope Jones does turn it around. We can use his crazy explosiveness. That guy might not be consistent, and I get on him for a lot, but I know how deadly he can be if he turns it on. I just hope he does. We'll be better for it. 

[rmcjacket23]

No where did I use the term impressive.  I used "clutch" because we needed those yards in that game to at least have the chance at a play in the end zone. My point was that everyone was saying that Jacoby was in a slump...well, he made a play to perhaps help towards getting out of that slump.  He made a play! It happened to be when we needed one. Simple!

 

I don't understand why people are so willing to rail against players heads that clearly are devoted to this team, practice and work their butts off for the team, the fans and the community. Every player goes through these kind of things if they have a long enough career. But I'm not the kind of person to give up on any player that hasn't given up on us. I think most fans would agree that Jacoby wants to succeed. Everyone deserves a chance to right themselves.  It certainly isn't like any of our wide receivers haven't been through the same thing at points during this season, and I've supported them as well.

 

Rather than magnifying every little imperfection, it might help to ease the pressure with a little fan support. That is just  the way I choose to view it.  Negativity only breeds more negativity. You can catch a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, just sayin'!  Fan support may just be what he needs to get over the slump.

Players should earn opportunities to redeem themselves, not be given them. Its a professional sport with professional players... not everybody deserves or is happy with their play all the time, and a lot of guys that think they are great players will never earn the chance to play in their entire careers. Just because a guy is struggling doesn't mean we need to keep sending him out there just to "give him a chance" to redeem himself and to make him feel better about himself.

 

If everybody was granted every opportunity they have, then we would be playing 300 players per game, and everybody would get an equal or fair rotation of playing time. But again, this if professional football.

 

While undoubtedly plenty of players have been through similar "droughts", not every player is created equal. Some have more desirable skills, and some have earned a bigger benefit of the doubt. Having never been a truly gifted receiver or earned the benefit of the doubt as a receiver, Jacoby would be better primed to focus on being a better ST player and on helping the team in a manner that his coach decides he should.

[jimmypowder]

I hear you. I can respect that opinion. No issue on my part with not agreeing! I have no problem with someone disagreeing and I'm not about to lecture you on why I am right! Lol. Way too much of that going around here.

But hey! I'll tell you this--I hope Jones does turn it around. We can use his crazy explosiveness. That guy might not be consistent, and I get on him for a lot, but I know how deadly he can be if he turns it on. I just hope he does. We'll be better for it.

Is it just me or has Jacoby look a little slower than he was the last couple of years ?

He has looked plain rusty at times .

[GrimCoconut]

Is it just me or has Jacoby look a little slower than he was the last couple of years ? He has looked plain rusty at times .

I think he's looked slower since the preseason. I said in the second preseason game he was not as decisive and he was slower running the ball out of the endzone on returns. Not sure what's up with him this year. 

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Jacoby is now 30, and like Daryl Smith he's already showing signs of slowing down.

If Jacoby is losing his speed, then what is his value as a football player to this team? 

His speed is really the only thing he has (had?) that stands out about him.

[52N19]

No where did I use the term impressive.  I used "clutch" because we needed those yards in that game to at least have the chance at a play in the end zone. My point was that everyone was saying that Jacoby was in a slump...well, he made a play to perhaps help towards getting out of that slump.  He made a play! It happened to be when we needed one. Simple!

 

I don't understand why people are so willing to rail against players heads that clearly are devoted to this team, practice and work their butts off for the team, the fans and the community. Every player goes through these kind of things if they have a long enough career. But I'm not the kind of person to give up on any player that hasn't given up on us. I think most fans would agree that Jacoby wants to succeed. Everyone deserves a chance to right themselves.  It certainly isn't like any of our wide receivers haven't been through the same thing at points during this season, and I've supported them as well.

 

Rather than magnifying every little imperfection, it might help to ease the pressure with a little fan support. That is just  the way I choose to view it.  Negativity only breeds more negativity. You can catch a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar, just sayin'!  Fan support may just be what he needs to get over the slump.

 

in pro sports its all about production. there isn;'t much room for heart. if a team loses the coaches go so they aren't going to get hung up on a player. i'm sure lee evans had good games where he showed good hands but once he let the team down there was know recovering. jones may be a good guy but the reason why houston gave up on him was because of his hands. we are finding out the same thing only after some success.

 

[K-Dog]

If you recall Jacoby started off last season pretty slow too.  Every one blamed DWTS.

[rmcjacket23]

If you recall Jacoby started off last season pretty slow too.  Every one blamed DWTS.

He never came out of that phase though...

[jimmypowder]

If you recall Jacoby started off last season pretty slow too. Every one blamed DWTS.

[jimmypowder]

If you recall Jacoby started off last season pretty slow too. Every one blamed DWTS.

I blamed Sweet Pea .

[rmw10]

He's been pretty bad this year.  His decision making is poor this year, and he doesn't seem to have the same burst.  I think he's safe for now because we know what Jacoby can do, but if he doesn't pick it up considerably, he could find himself out of a roster spot after the year.

[Ravenslifer]

Unfortunately Jacoby is the 4th receiver on the team, the 5th receiving option, and could be moving to 7th very quickly depending on what Camp and Gilmore do in the next few weeks.  He's basically a intermediate to deep threat and will never succeed if asked to run WCO routes all the time.  But I think he's still capable of some game-breaking plays, just needs to be put in some better situations which hopefully Kubiak and the rest of the offensive staff can work on.  And who knows, maybe all he needs is a few easy catches to build some confidence.  Either way, he shouldn't be looked on, and therefore judged, as a primary receiving option on this team.  I'll be happy if he gives us a few big plays this season.  Yeah he's overpaid for what he does, but nobody cares what you're paid when you're helping your team in key playoff moments.

[ravefan52]

I love Jacoby for the role he played in the SB run, but I knew that was going to be a bad contract the day we signed it. He's never been a good of WR. He's just fast, which yes did play a big role in our old air corbel, but we had already signed Kubes and he had never fit system in HOU so I didn't expect it to be much different. 

 

He can't run routes and clearly has bad hands. He's 6'2'' but plays very small. So really his only asset at receiver was his speed, yet it isn't utilized that well in the new system and we signed him to a decent size contract at the age of 30, right when players at that position lose the speed. Although I did expect him to be better returner this year, no way am I ever giving 12mil to a #4 WR who is only getting worse.

[52520Andrew]

SO about 18 posts deep and none had mentioned the Good Times reference? Lmao.

Haha yeah kinda dissappointed in that

[Edgar]

That and the absolutely sick spin move he put on the 49r DB to end the 1st half of the super bowl, along with taking the opening 2nd half kick to the house. 

 

So, basically being the difference maker in a Super Bowl, along with the Mile High Miracle, has immortalized him as a Raven. 

 

But this is a league of "what have you done for me lately". The Ravens organization has not proved to be too sentimental, so if they feel like he's out lived his usefulness, we'll find out ... but that's next year. This year, since he's going to be a Raven until our 2014 completes, I'd sure like to see him make some new contributions. 

don't forget his kick off return against minnesota last year.

[Blackbirds Rule]

Ya, I'm with yah. But I do get the sense that a lot of fans are done with Jacoby. He will be on this team for the remainder of the season, I'm very certain of that. He's just hit a mental roadblock where absolutely nothing is working, but all he needs is one big play and he's back. 

I can't wait for him to make that play. Whether it's a punt return or kick return. Something to give him his confidence back. If he makes another bad play in ST. I think we put Camp back there or bring in Deonte for ST duty. I think Camp makes more since since you don't have to release anybody.

[TDubbs]

I can't wait for him to make that play. Whether it's a punt return or kick return. Something to give him his confidence back. If he makes another bad play in ST. I think we put Camp back there or bring in Deonte for ST duty. I think Camp makes more since since you don't have to release anybody.

 

It takes 1 play for him to break a tackle and take it to the house, he's always that threat. However your right, he can't make another bad ST play when he's got Camp nipping at his heels and Deonte not too far away.