Next UP: Atlanta Falcons

[Ravenslifer]

Who is better Flacco or Ryan?

 

More important question - how many yards could Joe and Julio Jones hook up for if they played 16 games together against the AFC south defenses?

[DomMcRaven]

Not to mention that they're looking for their first win. Let's make sure they continue to keep looking.

[I AM LEGEND]

Game reminds me too much of Indy. Julio will give me nightmares...and we'll have a whole week of people saying all the gruesome things we SHOULD do to their defense.

But we all know it doesn't take an all world defense to make us look bad.

But ill be at the game..so I hope we win

[DomMcRaven]

More important question - how many yards could Joe and Julio Jones hook up for if they played 16 games together against the AFC south defenses?

Yeah..replace Torrey with Julio and it's a wrap.

[Moderator 2]

Hmmm Ryan on the road 0-2 6 ints, home 2-0 no ints until today per SNF-- we need today's Joe and line next Sunday!!!!!!!

[PolishRifle]

Hmmm Ryan on the road 0-2 6 ints, home 2-0 no ints until today per SNF-- we need today's Joe and line next Sunday!!!!!!!

 

If we get todays line, todays Joe will show up. That's a package deal. The Ravens OL played horrible against the Colts.

[I AM LEGEND]

We made the colts defense look pretty darn good. I cant see how anyone could be so confident and cocky that we'll perform so well against the falcons.

Take what u can get from the Ravens but never expect anything.

[gabefergy]

I think the Ravens are a considerably better team than Atlanta across the board. They have a pedestrian defense and no real playmakers going against one of the better OL we have here.

 

On defense, our pass-rush should destroy a terrible OL in Atlanta and Jimmy matches up well against Julio Jones. Matt Ryan is not a good QB away from home and with a bad OL he could have a long day. They can't run the ball all that well, so as long as we limit the big plays and get pressure, I don't see them scoring all that much.

 

I don't want to sound over-confident, but Atlanta just isn't a good football team right now and we are. Plus it's a game at home. I think it will be a double digit win.

[I AM LEGEND]

I dont know why I come into these Up Next threads. How quickly some of us forget how easy it is for us to suck.

Jimmy matches up well against Julio?? Yea ok

Our pass rush should destroy their oline?? Yea ok-_-

They have a pedestrian defense with no real playmakers?? Sounds like what 85% said about the Colts

[GrimCoconut]

Konz, I remember when that was a hot name around these parts. I agree with you here, plenty of blitz and Bradon Williams dominating inside. Harbs said Jimmy Smith will make history in this league and I think it's time for the Ravens to finally allow him to do so. Jimmy Smith is a top CB in the NFL and it's time for the coaches to build the defensive scheme around him, CJ, Mcphee and BW imo. I think our defense is much better if you allow Jimmy to shadow, and roll coverage to the opposite side of the field to help Webb and Franks.

 

Brooks is getting more and more action on the back end and he's getting more and more comfortable. He kind of got caught in between the big hit or big play on the deep ball to VJax and it caused him but overall he played well. Especially whenever the defense was aggressive. If you allow Jimmy to shadow and Brooks over the top, I like our chances of limiting big plays.

 

I'm not sure what he is or isn't doing in practice, but I'd like to see Art Brown see action in sub packages. Huge fan of D. Smith, but he's just not getting it done in pass coverage this year like he did last year. The speed and instincts of Brown might limit some of those plays just behind the LB position to the TEs.

 

Both Camp and Aiken did a really good job with their opportunities against the Bucs and I'd like Kubes to continue to reward them. Camp was open on a couple of option routes but the ball went else where. I think if Kubes continues to get everyone involved in the offense it'll be tough for any defense to stop the Ravens and I honestly don't see the Falcons as a tough defense.

 

Should be a great game and I expect a Ravens win at home

I remember hating every mock draft mocking Konz to us in the 1st round. Easily one of my most hated off-seasons. I like Upshaw 1000 times better than if we took Konz. Shoot, I would have take Pierce above Konz in the 1st round. I know another poster (I'll respond to you) mentioned not to blitz, and it could be an issue taking coverage off of White, Hester, and Jones, but I think we should take our chances every so often. Not every play, because that's predictable, but a couple times when it seems natural. I don't like forcing stuff.

 

I think we should get insane pressure with a front consisting of Ngata, Williams, another DL, Suggs, Dumervil, Smith and Mosley. That's just too good. I'm not the biggest fan of Smith this year, but I would still send him up the A-gap on a blitz because I think it's better than taking Mosley out of coverage. Smith isn't as good in coverage. Maybe even do a SS blitz with Elam. I don't think the Falcons' OL can really handle what we have on the DL. I normally don't try to be so confident, because any given Sunday (and that holds true, even this week) but I can't see us losing to them. 

[ludy51]

I dont know why I come into these Up Next threads. How quickly some of us forget how easy it is for us to suck.

Jimmy matches up well against Julio?? Yea ok

Our pass rush should destroy their oline?? Yea ok-_-

They have a pedestrian defense with no real playmakers?? Sounds like what 85% said about the Colts

the falcons are not the colts

[BmoreBird22]

We made the colts defense look pretty darn good. I cant see how anyone could be so confident and cocky that we'll perform so well against the falcons.

Take what u can get from the Ravens but never expect anything.

Road vs home and the fact that Joe has literally never performed well in Indy.

[gabefergy]

I dont know why I come into these Up Next threads. How quickly some of us forget how easy it is for us to suck.

Jimmy matches up well against Julio?? Yea ok

Our pass rush should destroy their oline?? Yea ok-_-

They have a pedestrian defense with no real playmakers?? Sounds like what 85% said about the Colts

Maybe you should stop coming then?

 

Jimmy has shut down every WR he has gone against this season, so yeah, he does match up well against Julio.

 

Their OL has been terrible this season and they are missing several starters, while the Ravens pass-rush has been strong. 

 

They have virtually no pass-rush and a pedestrian secondary. Only 2 interceptions all season.

[BmoreBird22]

I remember hating every mock draft mocking Konz to us in the 1st round. Easily one of my most hated off-seasons. I like Upshaw 1000 times better than if we took Konz. Shoot, I would have take Pierce above Konz in the 1st round. I know another poster (I'll respond to you) mentioned not to blitz, and it could be an issue taking coverage off of White, Hester, and Jones, but I think we should take our chances every so often. Not every play, because that's predictable, but a couple times when it seems natural. I don't like forcing stuff.

 

I think we should get insane pressure with a front consisting of Ngata, Williams, another DL, Suggs, Dumervil, Smith and Mosley. That's just too good. I'm not the biggest fan of Smith this year, but I would still send him up the A-gap on a blitz because I think it's better than taking Mosley out of coverage. Smith isn't as good in coverage. Maybe even do a SS blitz with Elam. I don't think the Falcons' OL can really handle what we have on the DL. I normally don't try to be so confident, because any given Sunday (and that holds true, even this week) but I can't see us losing to them. 

Referring to me? I said I was iffy if you're referring to me

[GrimCoconut]

A popular philosophy that some teams employ is to actually have the best corner shadow the second best receiver and then use the second best corner on the best receiver, but put safety help over the top. Honestly, Jimmy is going to need help with Julio Jones. Jones is just too explosive. I'd rather him shutdown White and put the safety help overtop of Julio than have to use a two high for most of the game.

 

 

I dont know why I come into these Up Next threads. How quickly some of us forget how easy it is for us to suck.

Jimmy matches up well against Julio?? Yea ok

Our pass rush should destroy their oline?? Yea ok-_-

They have a pedestrian defense with no real playmakers?? Sounds like what 85% said about the Colts

Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here (could be), but I think Jimmy Smith does match up as well as anyone on this team in coverage against Jones. I think he's got the skills to roll with him and minimize his impact even better than double coverage from an injured Webb and Matt Elam or even Brooks. 

 

I will say, however, that Jimmy Smith did go toe-to-toe with Julio Jones for (I believe) a quarter last preseason in game 2. Smith did allow 3 completions to go down the field and he allowed a TD as well in the game. With that said, it wasn't a dominating effort by Jones. On the TD to Jones, Jones just got a bit of a step on  Jimmy on a crossing pattern and it allowed enough cushion for a TD.  Chykie Brown covered White in the game and did a fairly decent job, from what I recall. That's one of those games I remember very well because I was watching Jimmy really closely that game as well as Chykie. 

 

I don't like the idea of a 5-11 Webb coming off of back injuries having safety help from whoever while covering a 6-3 Julio Jones with 4.39 speed. Period. I'd rather a 6-2 Jimmy Smith with size and speed try to cover Jones, because Jimmy has elevated his game from that Falcons game, and his coverage wasn't even bad on Jones in that game. I think Jimmy could handle Jones fine by himself. He took out Megatron. 

[BmoreBird22]

Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here (could be), but I think Jimmy Smith does match up as well as anyone on this team in coverage against Jones. I think he's got the skills to roll with him and minimize his impact even better than double coverage from an injured Webb and Matt Elam or even Brooks. 

 

I will say, however, that Jimmy Smith did go toe-to-toe with Julio Jones for (I believe) a quarter last preseason in game 2. Smith did allow 3 completions to go down the field and he allowed a TD as well in the game. With that said, it wasn't a dominating effort by Jones. On the TD to Jones, Jones just got a bit of a step on  Jimmy on a crossing pattern and it allowed enough cushion for a TD.  Chykie Brown covered White in the game and did a fairly decent job, from what I recall. That's one of those games I remember very well because I was watching Jimmy really closely that game as well as Chykie. 

 

I don't like the idea of a 5-11 Webb coming off of back injuries having safety help from whoever while covering a 6-3 Julio Jones with 4.39 speed. Period. I'd rather a 6-2 Jimmy Smith with size and speed try to cover Jones, because Jimmy has elevated his game from that Falcons game, and his coverage wasn't even bad on Jones in that game. I think Jimmy could handle Jones fine by himself. He took out Megatron. 

I think Jimmy Smith matches up with Julio Jones as well as anyone in the league, and possibly is one of the best to match-up with him because of his size and speed, but I just worry some because Julio is the most explosive receiver in the NFL. He's a different animal than Megatron in that sense and with the way Julio's playing, he's working his way into the best in the NFL discussion. 

 

I don't put any stock into that game. I remember having a real lengthy discussion with people about why that game was truly no where as bad as some made it out to be. 

 

I'm a huge Jimmy homer and I think he'll do well, but I do think Julio will do his damage.

[ravensdan]

I dont know why I come into these Up Next threads. How quickly some of us forget how easy it is for us to suck.

Jimmy matches up well against Julio?? Yea ok

Our pass rush should destroy their oline?? Yea ok-_-

They have a pedestrian defense with no real playmakers?? Sounds like what 85% said about the Colts

This team is a lot worse than the colts. There is just not much in the way of a good match up for Atlanta in this game. Other than hit a few explosive plays.

Also while not it's best performance the team did not "suck" against the colts.

[GrimCoconut]

I think Jimmy Smith matches up with Julio Jones as well as anyone in the league, and possibly is one of the best to match-up with him because of his size and speed, but I just worry some because Julio is the most explosive receiver in the NFL. He's a different animal than Megatron in that sense and with the way Julio's playing, he's working his way into the best in the NFL discussion. 

 

I don't put any stock into that game. I remember having a real lengthy discussion with people about why that game was truly no where as bad as some made it out to be. 

 

I'm a huge Jimmy homer and I think he'll do well, but I do think Julio will do his damage.

Yeah, I just think you stick Jimmy on Julio and put Chykie on White with Brooks providing safety help. I know we have Franks out there a lot, but I would honestly prefer Brown in that situation but we'll see. Webb will be in there for sure, seeing his share of snaps. Probably have a steady rotation of Brown, Franks and Webb behind Jimmy with guys getting their rest. The bottom-line is, this game needs the pressure and we need to bring it to be effective. Ryan cannot have time to find Julio and connect. 

[Ravenskid52752]

Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here (could be), but I think Jimmy Smith does match up as well as anyone on this team in coverage against Jones. I think he's got the skills to roll with him and minimize his impact even better than double coverage from an injured Webb and Matt Elam or even Brooks. 

 

I will say, however, that Jimmy Smith did go toe-to-toe with Julio Jones for (I believe) a quarter last preseason in game 2. Smith did allow 3 completions to go down the field and he allowed a TD as well in the game. With that said, it wasn't a dominating effort by Jones. On the TD to Jones, Jones just got a bit of a step on  Jimmy on a crossing pattern and it allowed enough cushion for a TD.  Chykie Brown covered White in the game and did a fairly decent job, from what I recall. That's one of those games I remember very well because I was watching Jimmy really closely that game as well as Chykie. 

 

I don't like the idea of a 5-11 Webb coming off of back injuries having safety help from whoever while covering a 6-3 Julio Jones with 4.39 speed. Period. I'd rather a 6-2 Jimmy Smith with size and speed try to cover Jones, because Jimmy has elevated his game from that Falcons game, and his coverage wasn't even bad on Jones in that game. I think Jimmy could handle Jones fine by himself. He took out Megatron. 

actually on that TD to jones in that preseason game it was Michael Sucks huff fault for completely leaving his zone where Jones went right behind wide open. huff had inside jimmy had outside. why you think jimmy was so upset on that play.

[GrimCoconut]

actually on that TD to jones in that preseason game it was Michael Sucks huff fault for completely leaving his zone where Jones went right behind wide open. huff had inside jimmy had outside. why you think jimmy was so upset on that play.

Yeah, thanks for reminding me! I do recall that. I tried to erase my memory of Huff, it was so bad. 

[BmoreBird22]

actually on that TD to jones in that preseason game it was Michael Sucks huff fault for completely leaving his zone where Jones went right behind wide open. huff had inside jimmy had outside. why you think jimmy was so upset on that play.

I knew it was something like that

[Inqui]

This team is a lot worse than the colts. There is just not much in the way of a good match up for Atlanta in this game. Other than hit a few explosive plays.

Also while not it's best performance the team did not "suck" against the colts.

Not to mention we're at home for this.

[ravensdan]

Maybe I'm drinking the Kool-Aid here (could be), but I think Jimmy Smith does match up as well as anyone on this team in coverage against Jones. I think he's got the skills to roll with him and minimize his impact even better than double coverage from an injured Webb and Matt Elam or even Brooks.

I will say, however, that Jimmy Smith did go toe-to-toe with Julio Jones for (I believe) a quarter last preseason in game 2. Smith did allow 3 completions to go down the field and he allowed a TD as well in the game. With that said, it wasn't a dominating effort by Jones. On the TD to Jones, Jones just got a bit of a step on Jimmy on a crossing pattern and it allowed enough cushion for a TD. Chykie Brown covered White in the game and did a fairly decent job, from what I recall. That's one of those games I remember very well because I was watching Jimmy really closely that game as well as Chykie.

I don't like the idea of a 5-11 Webb coming off of back injuries having safety help from whoever while covering a 6-3 Julio Jones with 4.39 speed. Period. I'd rather a 6-2 Jimmy Smith with size and speed try to cover Jones, because Jimmy has elevated his game from that Falcons game, and his coverage wasn't even bad on Jones in that game. I think Jimmy could handle Jones fine by himself. He took out Megatron.

I'm sure it will be some combination. Many times jimmy will play man on Julio. Other times there will be safety help there. I'm not convinced white is playing 100% right now and Ryan was definitely caught forcing balls to jones today.

[gabefergy]

I think Jimmy Smith matches up with Julio Jones as well as anyone in the league, and possibly is one of the best to match-up with him because of his size and speed, but I just worry some because Julio is the most explosive receiver in the NFL. He's a different animal than Megatron in that sense and with the way Julio's playing, he's working his way into the best in the NFL discussion. 

 

I don't put any stock into that game. I remember having a real lengthy discussion with people about why that game was truly no where as bad as some made it out to be. 

 

I'm a huge Jimmy homer and I think he'll do well, but I do think Julio will do his damage.

I agree with this. There aren't many corners with the size, speed, and skills to stick with Julio but Jimmy is on that list. I have to admit he has been a revelation this year, after some inconsistent play in previous seasons. I know we talked in the offseason about how he just needs to put it all together, and he has done that and then some. I would say he is comfortably a top 5 CB in the NFL right now.

 

I don't think much can be taken away from that preseason game either. Not only was it preseason, but at least two of those completions were into zone coverage including the TD where the safety didn't play his zone properly.

[Ravensfan23]

A popular philosophy that some teams employ is to actually have the best corner shadow the second best receiver and then use the second best corner on the best receiver, but put safety help over the top. Honestly, Jimmy is going to need help with Julio Jones. Jones is just too explosive. I'd rather him shutdown White and put the safety help overtop of Julio than have to use a two high for most of the game.

 

I don't think Jimmy would need much help at all. Would Jones make some plays, yea, but I don't think he'll outmatch Jimmy.

 

Honestly I don't see White as much of a threat. He's still a solid player but nothing close to what he used to be imo. If Webb continues to progress I actually like him vs White. Jimmy shadowing White is a waste imo. If you are gonna have your best CB shadowing put him on Jones, otherwise just play coverage like we usually do and hope you don't find Jones matched up with Elam at any point.

[Ravenskid52752]

Yeah, thanks for reminding me! I do recall that. I tried to erase my memory of Huff, it was so bad. 

same here  lol probably one of the worst FA singing in ravens history.

that play they had on all-22 on but I can't find it.

[Ravensfan23]

I think Jimmy Smith matches up with Julio Jones as well as anyone in the league, and possibly is one of the best to match-up with him because of his size and speed, but I just worry some because Julio is the most explosive receiver in the NFL. He's a different animal than Megatron in that sense and with the way Julio's playing, he's working his way into the best in the NFL discussion. 

 

I don't put any stock into that game. I remember having a real lengthy discussion with people about why that game was truly no where as bad as some made it out to be. 

 

I'm a huge Jimmy homer and I think he'll do well, but I do think Julio will do his damage.

 

I agree with you. I think it would be a great battle between those guys.

[ravensdfan]

Have not watched the Falcons play this season (I think I might have caught about 2 or 3 plays from one game or something) so have no idea how well we match up.

 

So, just win! 

[The Raven]

A popular philosophy that some teams employ is to actually have the best corner shadow the second best receiver and then use the second best corner on the best receiver, but put safety help over the top. Honestly, Jimmy is going to need help with Julio Jones. Jones is just too explosive. I'd rather him shutdown White and put the safety help overtop of Julio than have to use a two high for most of the game.

 

Never knew or caught on to that, but it makes good sense. Good call

[baltimorefan328]

 

Honestly I don't see White as much of a threat. He's still a solid player but nothing close to what he used to be imo. If Webb continues to progress I actually like him vs White. Jimmy shadowing White is a waste imo. If you are gonna have your best CB shadowing put him on Jones, otherwise just play coverage like we usually do and hope you don't find Jones matched up with Elam at any point.

I agree with this, with just a little reservation because you never know what our secondary will do. But I'm pretty sure White was taken out of the game for a few plays for injury again in this game so he seems to be pretty proned to getting nicked up lately. Just to add to the differences, the falcons are coming off yet another tough loss and with Tillman out I don't know if the bears secondary is much better than the Ravens'.  I know its likely unrealistic, but I hope Will Hill plays in this game. With Jimmy playing so well this could be a good game to get Hill acclimated before the Bengals game