Arthur Brown Trade Rumors

[Rav'n Maniac]

I really hope they don't trade him. He's the future alongside of Mosley. At the same time, he won't get any experience as an inactive all the time. I feel we should at least be using him in a situational role. Nothing against Orr, but an undrafted over a 2nd round pick doesn't make sense to me. They say the kid has a higher special teams value. I haven't noticed it, he has no stats after 2 games. Is he even playing on ST during the games?

[Crabcakes&Football]

Disappointing it's been 2 games and he's been inactive. I don't get why they would trade him either. There's no way we would recoup the value we gave up to draft him if we traded him. 

[edthehead]

I really hope they don't trade him. He's the future alongside of Mosley. At the same time, he won't get any experience as an inactive all the time. I feel we should at least be using him in a situational role. Nothing against Orr, but an undrafted over a 2nd round pick doesn't make sense to me. They say the kid has a higher special teams value. I haven't noticed it, he has no stats after 2 games. Is he even playing on ST during the games?

why play him,what if he gets hurt or shows a certain weakness,it could be anything ,A possible trade partner may try to lo ball us,so keep him out of no trade he will be activated,we can still produce lb,we good yall,,,,

[Rav'n Maniac]

why play him,what if he gets hurt or shows a certain weakness,it could be anything ,A possible trade partner may try to lo ball us,so keep him out of no trade he will be activated,we can still produce lb,we good yall,,,,

You totally missed what I was saying, never mind it's not worth my time to continue.

[Bltravens]

Not going to make any judgements about that but I didn't see him much on ST in the preseason. Orr and McClellan made the team doing ST work and have been active.

Pft, if you're not going to judge everyone and everything why are you even a mod B-rad

[ellicottraven]

If he is on the trading block, he is going to a place that gives us a position we need badly. Either a DB or a stud RB in return for a stud ILB.

[redlobster]

If he is on the trading block, he is going to a place that gives us a position we need badly. Either a DB or a stud RB in return for a stud ILB.

Nobody is trading a "stud" player for him unless we are throwing a draft pick in with it. I'm probably the biggest Arthur brown supporter but he doesn't have enough game tape for another team to trade a top tier player for. Play the man, next week!

[omar586]

harb needs to give him some snaps to raise his value

[443hurricane]

I told Grim he was a bust..

[jazz1988]

Disappointing it's been 2 games and he's been inactive. I don't get why they would trade him either. There's no way we would recoup the value we gave up to draft him if we traded him. 

 

There's just no need for Brown right now and  our other inside linebackers are better special teamers than him. Mosley and Smith are every down type linebackers  so it's not like we  need Brown to come in on passing downs or anything which is something Brown excels at.

[GrimCoconut]

I told Grim he was a bust..

Lol, he is not a bust. The guy hasn't even played and it's hard to say he is a bust after one season in the NFL. What a reactionary statement. 

[The Raven]

I told Grim he was a bust..

 

Might I suggest wearing glasses? You might be able to see why Brown is clearly not a bust.

[443hurricane]

Ok, we shall see. Word is he has fallen out of favor.

Maybe he just needs a fresh start..

But no reason a "healthy 24 year old" should be scratched unless he's on the trade block.

[GrimCoconut]

Ok, we shall see. Word is he has fallen out of favor.

Maybe he just needs a fresh start..

But no reason a "healthy 24 year old" should be scratched unless he's on the trade block.

I don't know and I won't comment on that because I really have no factual evidence to support it either way. That's not something where I'll make an assumption. I won't lie and say there's no bias for me. I love Arthur Brown as a prospect and I find it strange he's not on the field. I won't lie there could be credence to him possibly being traded, whether or not I agree with it. I don't recall any reports ever saying he fell out of favor with the coaches. I feel those are assumptions due to Bynes starting over him and because he hasn't been active.

No doubt it's strange.

[Tank 92]

Methinks WRs playing better STs has forced Arthur to the inactive list. How many ILBs can we carry?

[Gordo52]

Ugh, no one bothered asking him. Would love some answer.

[ravensnick]

Either trade arthur or suit him up, he's not gonna help us if he can't play t all.

[FlocksGottaFeed]

It's the strangest thing. Several media outlets have reported trade rumors then recanted the rumors. What's up?

 

The only thing that I can think of is maybe it's more about C.J. Mosley. The Ravens need to know for certain that his injury history will not follow him into the pros. He's arguably a better fit for the current defensive scheme (speed) and showed equal if not more potential than Arthur during the post-season.  Maybe the plan is to ride the C. J. train as far as it will go in order to evaluate if this guy is worth future investment. Until then, Arthur is a stand-by asset waiting for maturation.

 

Smith is too knowledgeable to take-off the field.
 

[harfordravenfan]

Get megatron for him & call it a day

[rmw10]

It's the strangest thing. Several media outlets have reported trade rumors then recanted the rumors. What's up?

 

The only thing that I can think of is maybe it's more about C.J. Mosley. The Ravens need to know for certain that his injury history will not follow him into the pros. He's arguably a better fit for the current defensive scheme (speed) and showed equal if not more potential than Arthur during the post-season.  Maybe the plan is to ride the C. J. train as far as it will go in order to evaluate if this guy is worth future investment. Until then, Arthur is a stand-by asset waiting for maturation.

 

Smith is too knowledgeable to take-off the field.

 

 

The media takes what they hear and spins it how they want.  All of these rumors were debunked almost immediately afterwards.  Other team's interest in Brown somehow turned into us being interested in trading him.

 

Now, he could still be dealt.  However, it's the media that has made this a rumor.

[GrimCoconut]

It's the strangest thing. Several media outlets have reported trade rumors then recanted the rumors. What's up?

 

The only thing that I can think of is maybe it's more about C.J. Mosley. The Ravens need to know for certain that his injury history will not follow him into the pros. He's arguably a better fit for the current defensive scheme (speed) and showed equal if not more potential than Arthur during the post-season.  Maybe the plan is to ride the C. J. train as far as it will go in order to evaluate if this guy is worth future investment. Until then, Arthur is a stand-by asset waiting for maturation.

 

Smith is too knowledgeable to take-off the field.

 

I don't think it has to do with the team evaluating CJ Mosley and his health. We wouldn't have drafted him if we were really concerned about his shoulder, knee, elbow or whatever. It's silly to suggest that's why Brown is still here. I don't think CJ is a better fit at all. Brown and Mosley essentially bring similar skills, but one is better against the pass and one is better against the run. I don't think Mosley demonstrated more potential than Brown, either. Brown showed some really nice potential. 

 

I think Smith is starting to slow down, so it will be nice to have a guy to replace him next year or the year after. That time is coming, and Daryl's deal is very apparent of that possibility. I'm not sure that we are truly trading Brown or not. It's so hard to predict. It's very strange he hasn't been active. I really can't explain it, and it could very well suggest a trade. I just don't know. 

[GrimCoconut]

The media takes what they hear and spins it how they want.  All of these rumors were debunked almost immediately afterwards.  Other team's interest in Brown somehow turned into us being interested in trading him.

 

Now, he could still be dealt.  However, it's the media that has made this a rumor.

Yeah, I'd agree with that. It sounds like the media saw Brown wasn't active and assumed that he's on the trade block since it's strange for a player like Brown to be inactive. They probably asked around and heard from various sources that teams have interest. Arthur Brown said that he heard about it but was told he isn't being shopped, so that suggests teams are probably talking to the Ravens about him, we're listening, but not making any moves yet until an exceptionally good offer comes along. 

 

This is probably a situation where it's much ado about nothing, though I can see Brown traded if we're given a really nice deal. I am not sure i would agree but it is very possible, especially with the league losing ILBs like crazy. 

[rmw10]

Yeah, I'd agree with that. It sounds like the media saw Brown wasn't active and assumed that he's on the trade block since it's strange for a player like Brown to be inactive. They probably asked around and heard from various sources that teams have interest. Arthur Brown said that he heard about it but was told he isn't being shopped, so that suggests teams are probably talking to the Ravens about him, we're listening, but not making any moves yet until an exceptionally good offer comes along. 

 

This is probably a situation where it's much ado about nothing, though I can see Brown traded if we're given a really nice deal. I am not sure i would agree but it is very possible, especially with the league losing ILBs like crazy. 

 

The number of injuries across the league is the only reason I consider this a real possibility, but I've always been on the side of it not happening.

 

I still believe he's a big part of the future.  He just doesn't have a spot right now.  Daryl Smith can't go on forever.

[juanman7]

I'm watching Monday Night Football and John Gruden just pointed out how little depth they have at linebacker and one of their linebackers went out of the game. Could anyone see us trading Arthur Brown to the Eagles for Darren Sproles or one of their running backs? Or any other players?

[GrimCoconut]

I'm watching Monday Night Football and John Gruden just pointed out how little depth they have at linebacker and one of their linebackers went out of the game. Could anyone see us trading Arthur Brown to the Eagles for Darren Sproles or one of their running backs? Or any other players?

Darren Sproles? 31-year-old Darren Sproles?! Unless it's McCoy, I can't see anyone I would want on the Eagles roster. Their roster is OK but no way would I trade for just another guy. At least not Arthur Brown. 

 

Anyone else on your mind? I guess Casey is an option but we had a chance to sign him as a free agent and he could be cut next year. 

[juanman7]

Darren Sproles? 31-year-old Darren Sproles?! Unless it's McCoy, I can't see anyone I would want on the Eagles roster. Their roster is OK but no way would I trade for just another guy. At least not Arthur Brown. 

 

Anyone else on your mind? I guess Casey is an option but we had a chance to sign him as a free agent and he could be cut next year. 

Lol it doesn't matter anyways because after tonight's game where sproles almost single handedly brought the Eagles back, they are not going to trade him. 

[airconteka1]

I think Browns future is here, personally I think him being made inactive is more about the coaching staff wanting more options in the secondary given the injuries there.

[ravensdfan]

Darren Sproles? 31-year-old Darren Sproles?! Unless it's McCoy, I can't see anyone I would want on the Eagles roster. Their roster is OK but no way would I trade for just another guy. At least not Arthur Brown. 

 

Anyone else on your mind? I guess Casey is an option but we had a chance to sign him as a free agent and he could be cut next year. 

 

31 yr old or not - man still has it. Now, a straight up trade for Sproles? No but package Sproles and say a later round draft pick? Who knows? Ozzie loves him some draft picks!

[GrimCoconut]

31 yr old or not - man still has it. Now, a straight up trade for Sproles? No but package Sproles and say a later round draft pick? Who knows? Ozzie loves him some draft picks!

I don't think you understand. I know he looked great tonight for 31. Yeah, he did. But for Sproles and a late round pick (5th, 6th, 7th) that's a steal for the Eagles, who get a young, cheap, and promising LB who can cover for another three years. That is hardly a fair trade. Anquan Boldin looked like a boss in the playoffs, and the offers we got were mostly 7th round picks until the Niners surrendered a 6th. Granted, you can say the "pending release" factored into that, but even still, I can't imagine he would've been higher than a 6th or perhaps a 5th. That's just really stretching my imagination, though. Realistically, Boldin's maximum value was a 6th rounder. 

 

Now if we are talking about a RB, which can be found anywhere in the draft, for an ILB with good coverage skills and pass rush skills who is still developing and could be a top-10 LB, you want more value. You don't trade one player with upside for a guy whose career is in its twilight. That's just foolish. We would need more than Sproles and a late rounder. Sproles plus a 3rd would be decent and a starting point. 

[BmoreBird22]

I don't think you understand. I know he looked great tonight for 31. Yeah, he did. But for Sproles and a late round pick (5th, 6th, 7th) that's a steal for the Eagles, who get a young, cheap, and promising LB who can cover for another three years. That is hardly a fair trade. Anquan Boldin looked like a boss in the playoffs, and the offers we got were mostly 7th round picks until the Niners surrendered a 6th. Granted, you can say the "pending release" factored into that, but even still, I can't imagine he would've been higher than a 6th or perhaps a 5th. That's just really stretching my imagination, though. Realistically, Boldin's maximum value was a 6th rounder. 

 

Now if we are talking about a RB, which can be found anywhere in the draft, for an ILB with good coverage skills and pass rush skills who is still developing and could be a top-10 LB, you want more value. You don't trade one player with upside for a guy whose career is in its twilight. That's just foolish. We would need more than Sproles and a late rounder. Sproles plus a 3rd would be decent and a starting point.

Right now, Brown hasn't proven to be anything on the field, really. Sure, he showed up nicely in the preseason because we know how much that matters. He hasn't proven to be anything special in the regular season, which is where it counts. Let's hold off on the possible top 10 until he actually plays meaningful snaps.

As for Sproles, I know you're worried about him being 31, which is usually a bad sign for running backs, but try to consider he's had 450 career carries and like 350 career receptions. He's had less than 1000 touches, and only like 60% were actual runs, so it's not like he's been taking an actual beating. It's not crazy to think he could go for three more years.

You'd be crazy to think the Eagles would offer a third rounder plus one of the most electric returners and receiving backs in the league. I'm not advocating for this trade, but let's be realistic