Official Vent Thread: Who to cut, Who Played Well, Who is in the Dog House?

[MrPlankton]

It's almost like Dalton wasn't under pressure all game. Like the Ravens' pass rush had disappeared or something. 

[D_UP]

New season. Same ole script.

[Wildwest Raven]

Get ready for.."It's not how we wanted to start the season"..or.."We'll have to look at the film and try and get better". Or the same stuff we heard last year, because, at least for this game, for all the hype, nothing has changed...

On to Pittsburg!

[ratedr]

It's almost like Dalton wasn't under pressure all game. Like the Ravens' pass rush had disappeared or something. 

So basically:

 

Shaky QB play

Unreliable receivers

No pass rush

 

Looks like we took a hot tub time machine back into last year.

[HoldingCall]

Today's game wasn't all that bad, except for the few blunders the Ravens win this game. Sure there were dropped passes, a missed field goal attempt, a 2pt mess up; holding penalties at the wrong time, etc. And still an opportunity to at least tie within the final minute.

[Hardbaugh]

That long pass to Jones HAS to be caught. Inexcusable.

Agree 1000 percent.

[jazz1988]

Chocking a laying an egg at home on a isn't a big deal?

 

It's the first  game of the season. Why should any fan push the panic  button over the first game of season. All this tells me is that we won't have 16 wins. You guys knew  we would  be running a new offensive system and growing pains should be expected. The Ravens was facing totally new offense against The Bengels as well and you can't tell me our defense  had full knowledge of what they was going to do and not do .

[Bravens292]

You forgot the receiving corp among the losers.

 

Put them in the winners/losers column. they did make some plays and did get open a lot.

[ratedr]

New season. Same ole script.

Yep. I have no expectations going forward. This is why you don't buy into the hype put out by Kevin Byrne, Ryan Mink, and all those guys.

[jimmypowder]

Flacco , while not his best game , put us ahead with 4-5 minutes left in the game .

I'll take that against a very good, maybe best in the AFC defense .

[TonyTone1192]

I'll start with defense first..

Was I missing something on that TD to AJ Green? Why wasn't Smith guarding him? With Webb out I would've expected Smith to shadow Green the entire game. Smith wasn't picked on that play, for Christs sake he was on the other side of the field!! It's not even as if Smith was getting torched, he played a great game! Guys, am I missing something?

Offense

Why in Sam Hill did Joe throw the ball 60+ times? Isn't Kubiak predicated on getting the run game established? Yeah I know we were down 15 early and we weren't realign off big runs, our offense at one point in the game became VERY predictable and there was SO MUCH more time. It seemed as if we were down 15 with 8 minutes left to play.

Overall I feel like we did get outplayed, but more importantly we definitely got out coached. Which usually doesn't happen for us.

[3-4ravdef509]

Hi, I hope you had a good summer.

Getting Jones to run a play short and inside the hash marks isn't very wise unless he's a decoy. The Ravens have big framed tight ends with good hands and Smith Bros.

I agree the receiving corps had more than their fair share of drops today but a good amount were difficult receptions. 3 or 4 passes off the top of the heads were dropped IMO that has to be caught.

I still think Joe is late with the ball just as always. Check the tape on Dalton, he's decisive. He drops back , locates an area and fires.

Flacco had to get better in his footwork, something Kubiak is supposed to be hammering him on. I only recall the Deep pass to Smith Sr being a tad off, but even that was catchable. Flacco like always made a slew of amazing passes and a couple of boneheaded decisions like he always does, but he was far from the reason the offense stunk today.

[ratedr]

Flacco , while not his best game , put us ahead with 4-5 minutes left in the game .

I'll take that against a very good, maybe best in the AFC defense .

If the offense didn't hibernate in the first half we might have already been ahead.

[BmoreBird22]

I wasn't too thrilled with Kubiak's play calling. He seemed to move away from what worked way too much, kinda like he wanted to not be obvious. Oh, we just got a first down from rushing? Let's throw it three times, but make sure it only goes five yards.

Felt like the Ravens got away from the run too much, did not do nearly enough play action when the run game started going, way too many short passes that the defense will just sit on, and when you throw 62 times, it'd be nice to see more than four or five go over 30+ yards. I'd imagine probably like 45 of those passes were within 7-8 yards.

I saw some miscommunication between Flacco and the receivers, which likely attributed to a poor first half and a good second half. It was always going to take time to get on the same page. Also have to wonder if Flacco lost faith in his receivers from all the drops and that was a cause of some poor throws.

Excited for Thursday because the offense was getting better, but it needs to be consistent all game.

Does Kubiak allow audibles? That last offensive play made me wonder because I'm sure Flacco saw that overload blitz (most fans could), so you have to wonder If Flacco wouldn't audible in protection or anything

[jimmypowder]

If the offense didn't hibernate in the first half we might have already been ahead.

You mean drop passes . Flacco cost us 3 points at the end of the half

[redrum52]

I know one thing for sure... We had at least 6 drops! What kind of WR core has 6 drops in a single game? It's a shame the comeback was short lived, but per the usual last year or so... Lack of finish by the defense thwarted a serious comeback of 16pts in the second half!

Lack of first half points my friend.  One of the dumbest plays to end out the first half and the ever dumberer(I know) pick in Bengals territory after the blocked kick... RIGHT AFTER THE BLOCKED KICK.  Offense can't wait until the second half to score each week and expect to win games in a league DESIGNED to help offense.

 

And anyone saying the defense wasn't doing there job, doesn't realize how much more we should've been down going into the half.  There wouldn't have been an almost comeback if they didn't keep the team in it.

[5aiah]

Agreed. The lack of pass rush was annoying though.

I agree it was annoying but if he dials up more aggressive stuff with Webby out and a out of position FS we would get blown out because actual TDs would be put on the board instead of just FGs. Pees doesn't just have full autonomy, he still has to follow football philosophy. Especially not with the lack of talent he has.

[3-4ravdef509]

I agree it was annoying but if he dials up more aggressive stuff with Webby out and a out of position FS we would get blown out because actual TDs would be put on the board instead of just FGs. Pees doesn't just have full autonomy, he still has to follow football philosophy. Especially not with the lack of talent he has.

He shouldn't have to dial it up, the problem is our corners didn't pay close to the receivers, and I understand why, but Dalton was killing the quick pass and screen game which wore out suggs and doom

[JEEPercreepermd]

Ominous stat: Only time the Ravens lost the season opener and made the playoffs was 2003.

I think that's more coincidence than anything. I'm sure that if you look up all of the playoff years week 1 oponent, you'll see game we SHOULD have won.

[Grapple Raven]

I think we have potential, it will take a few games to get things pulled together, it is just a shame the schedule this year is frontloaded with conference games...that's the killer!

[Hardbaugh]

Lack of first half points my friend.  One of the dumbest plays to end out the first half and the ever dumberer(I know) pick in Bengals territory after the blocked kick... RIGHT AFTER THE BLOCKED KICK.  Offense can't wait until the second half to score each week and expect to win games in a league DESIGNED to help offense.

 

And anyone saying the defense wasn't doing there job, doesn't realize how much more we should've been down going into the half.  There wouldn't have been an almost comeback if they didn't keep the team in it.

That's it,  right there.

[ratedr]

It's time to accept that Flacco just isn't terribly particularly sharp. Caldwell found that out first-hand when he gave him too much power (of course other things went wrong too, but Flacco did not play well).

 

Kubiak needs to give Flacco the Schaub manager role, which is disappointing for a guy with his contract, but it's the best way to win.

 

I sure hope this isn't a Mark Rypien type decline for Flacco but since the Super Bowl it hasn't looked good. It's like he sold his soul for that win (and contract).

[Bravens292]

If we go by the preseason and yesterday you said Flacco would throw 62 times and not throw to juice at all, i wouldn't have believed you. oddly quiet day for a guy we expected to have a big role in receiving.

[Ravenslifer]

I wasn't too thrilled with Kubiak's play calling. He seemed to move away from what worked way too much, kinda like he wanted to not be obvious. Oh, we just got a first down from rushing? Let's throw it three times, but make sure it only goes five yards.

Felt like the Ravens got away from the run too much, did not do nearly enough play action when the run game started going, way too many short passes that the defense will just sit on, and when you throw 62 times, it'd be nice to see more than four or five go over 30+ yards. I'd imagine probably like 45 of those passes were within 7-8 yards.

I saw some miscommunication between Flacco and the receivers, which likely attributed to a poor first half and a good second half. It was always going to take time to get on the same page. Also have to wonder if Flacco lost faith in his receivers from all the drops and that was a cause of some poor throws.

Excited for Thursday because the offense was getting better, but it needs to be consistent all game.

Does Kubiak allow audibles? That last offensive play made me wonder because I'm sure Flacco saw that overload blitz (most fans could), so you have to wonder If Flacco wouldn't audible in protection or anything

 

In the prototypical WCO, you're not really supposed to change the gameplan at all, especially early on.  The QB gets the playcall and is supposed to have the ball out of his hands very quickly, throwing to where the receiver is supposed to be, not checking to see where the receiver is and then throwing, if that makes any sense.

[Static]

Maybe Peas does the best he can with our talent

[PerpetuallyBored74]

Flacco's still better than Romo.

[3-4ravdef509]

In the prototypical WCO, you're not really supposed to change the gameplan at all, especially early on. The QB gets the playcall and is supposed to have the ball out of his hands very quickly, throwing to where the receiver is supposed to be, not checking to see where the receiver is and then throwing, if that makes any sense.

Flacco looked pissed talking to Kubiak after that last play

[sflegend89]

We need a major shake up this week, ship off a 2015 4th rounder or 2016 3rd rounder and bring in a corner who can actually cover besides Jimmy. There's literally no point of Chykie even being on the field, he's either playing 10 yards off and giving up constant underneath passes or he's caught flat footed and burned like what AJ Green did to him.

 

It's hard to even blame Chykie because the coaches should know his limitations and stop asking him to play all these meaningful snaps and cover guys like Green when he CLEARLY isn't capable of doing so. Chykie isn't playing these meaningful snaps because he earned it, he's playing them out of necessity from lack of depth (Something the fans said all offseason).

 

Get a REAL corner in here this week, I can't take another game of Chykie Brown for my health sake

[ratedr]

Also, let's talk about how Elvis Dumervil has been generally worthless.

[BmoreBird22]

In the prototypical WCO, you're not really supposed to change the gameplan at all, especially early on.  The QB gets the playcall and is supposed to have the ball out of his hands very quickly, throwing to where the receiver is supposed to be, not checking to see where the receiver is and then throwing, if that makes any sense.

Yeah, it makes total sense, but in a situation like that, there was almost nothing Joe could do, and I just wish he could have been able to at least move a tight end or back to the backfield with him.

Also, hindsight is 20/20, but using that timeout on the prior sack was bad because I'm sure the Ravens would call time to avoid that overload